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    #182
    L1011
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    http://www.independent.ie/irish-news/courts/latest-court-challenge-against-marriage-referendum-result-thrown-out-31553043.html

    Time to slap an Isaac Wunder on this repeatedly failed litigant.


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    #183
    Annasopra
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    L1011 wrote: »
    http://www.independent.ie/irish-news/courts/latest-court-challenge-against-marriage-referendum-result-thrown-out-31553043.html

    Time to slap an Isaac Wunder on this repeatedly failed litigant.

    I'm half expecting him to appeal again

    It was so much easier to blame it on Them. It was bleakly depressing to think that They were Us. If it was Them, then nothing was anyone's fault. If it was us, what did that make Me? After all, I'm one of Us. I must be. I've certainly never thought of myself as one of Them. No one ever thinks of themselves as one of Them. We're always one of Us. It's Them that do the bad things.

    Terry Pratchet



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    #184
    L1011
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    Joeytheparrot wrote: »
    I'm half expecting him to appeal again

    If he does, the Wunder Order is almost inevitable. If that's slapped on you, you can't take any cases without permission of the High Court - which is pretty obviously never given. When a litigant is obviously vexatious and abusing process they can be issued. Very rare these days, but this deserves one

    He may also be required to put up a bond for the states costs in future actions, which I doubt he can afford - he already owes them huge sums.

    His mentality would be intriguing to study. Was he hoping that with multiple appeals he'd suddenly hit a god-squad judge who'd work against reason? (And that the state wouldn't appeal that immediately and have it reversed)


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    Ten of Swords
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    L1011 wrote: »
    His mentality would be intriguing to study. Was he hoping that with multiple appeals he'd suddenly hit a god-squad judge who'd work against reason? (And that the state wouldn't appeal that immediately and have it reversed)

    He claims that its about how the state conducted itself during the referendum campaign
    In his arguments, Mr Walshe, an electrician of Lisdeen, Co Clare, said this was not “an anti-gay issue” but about a failure to adhere to fair procedures in the referendum process.
    Irish Times, June 5th

    Honestly, to me the mentality seems to be that of a card player at a Vegas table losing hand after hand but still playing on hoping for the big win that will cancel it all out. He's going to come away from this considerably less well off!

    As for an Isaac Wunder order, yeah I can see that possibly happening if this goes on for much longer. The courts hand them out sparingly, and rightly so, but these consistent actions are just taking the piss at this stage.

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    #186
    Peregrinus
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    L1011 wrote: »
    His mentality would be intriguing to study. Was he hoping that with multiple appeals he'd suddenly hit a god-squad judge who'd work against reason? (And that the state wouldn't appeal that immediately and have it reversed)
    Possibly he hopes that. But my guess is that he doesn't really expect to win; he's just having a tantrum.


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    #187
    Annasopra
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    Peregrinus wrote: »
    Possibly he hopes that. But my guess is that he doesn't really expect to win; he's just having a tantrum.

    Even more reason for an Isaac Wunder order

    It was so much easier to blame it on Them. It was bleakly depressing to think that They were Us. If it was Them, then nothing was anyone's fault. If it was us, what did that make Me? After all, I'm one of Us. I must be. I've certainly never thought of myself as one of Them. No one ever thinks of themselves as one of Them. We're always one of Us. It's Them that do the bad things.

    Terry Pratchet



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    #188
    jobbridge4life
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    Peregrinus wrote: »
    Possibly he hopes that. But my guess is that he doesn't really expect to win; he's just having a tantrum.

    He doesn't have a current case though right?


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    #189
    NuMarvel
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    jobbridge4life wrote: »
    He doesn't have a current case though right?

    No, but the court offices are open until 5pm, so plenty of time yet :D.


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    #190
    Annasopra
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    jobbridge4life wrote: »
    He doesn't have a current case though right?

    Yet

    It was so much easier to blame it on Them. It was bleakly depressing to think that They were Us. If it was Them, then nothing was anyone's fault. If it was us, what did that make Me? After all, I'm one of Us. I must be. I've certainly never thought of myself as one of Them. No one ever thinks of themselves as one of Them. We're always one of Us. It's Them that do the bad things.

    Terry Pratchet



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    #191
    Annasopra
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    Definitely needs an Isaac Wunder order


    http://m.rte.ie/news/2015/1127/749647-gerry-walshe-court/

    It was so much easier to blame it on Them. It was bleakly depressing to think that They were Us. If it was Them, then nothing was anyone's fault. If it was us, what did that make Me? After all, I'm one of Us. I must be. I've certainly never thought of myself as one of Them. No one ever thinks of themselves as one of Them. We're always one of Us. It's Them that do the bad things.

    Terry Pratchet



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    #192
    suicide_circus
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    I think he needs to be allowed to go through all the challenges he likes in order to get it out of the way and put the whole business to bed.


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    #193
    L1011
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    suicide_circus wrote: »
    I think he needs to be allowed to go through all the challenges he likes in order to get it out of the way and put the whole business to bed.

    Legally it has gone to bed. He's a vexatious litigant with no case.

    The SC is unlikely to hear the case without a bond for state costs.

    Was another Wunder order issued yesterday so judges are starting to remember they exist at least.


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