Exam Results

Ravanelli

Planemo wrote: »

12 marks off a 2.1, gonna try a combination of appeals and repeats to make it. It's 15 credits you can repeat without getting downgraded to an ordinary degree, right?

Yeah 15 credits. You could probably do with contacting Academic Advisory too if you wanted. They're approachable and helpful.

blackbird 49

My son got his results, feeling very proud, A BA International 1st class Honours degree��

peacock169

blackbird 49 wrote: »

My son got his results, feeling very proud, A BA International 1st class Honours degree��

Excellent, well done.

Toshi101

Guys does anyone know what the craic is for adding second year results?
It says that
"The final year subject mark will incorporate, where relevant, the penultimate year mark weighted at 30%, applied only to the student’s advantage ". My results today tells me i got a very high 2.2 however last year I got a 2.1. So will my degree be a 2.2 or will my second year marks be incorporated into this? or have they already been? im a bit confused at the moment gonna get in touch with the advisory in a bit but thought id post this here now in case anyone can help

PM me nudes

I still haven't gotten mine

Fbjm

Was chatting on facebook last night and went to show my mate a pic of the "results not yet released" message on the results page, wasn't expecting to actually see my results. Honours across the board, checked individual module results and scored a first class honours in a module and a 2.1 somewhere else, delighted. That's my degree got now, finally

mickstupp

Toshi101 wrote: »

Guys does anyone know what the craic is for adding second year results?
It says that
"The final year subject mark will incorporate, where relevant, the penultimate year mark weighted at 30%, applied only to the student’s advantage ". My results today tells me i got a very high 2.2 however last year I got a 2.1. So will my degree be a 2.2 or will my second year marks be incorporated into this? or have they already been? im a bit confused at the moment gonna get in touch with the advisory in a bit but thought id post this here now in case anyone can help

If your third year marks are lower than the second year marks, then it happens automatically.

So your final high 2.2 already includes 70% of your third year marks and 30% of your second year marks.

If it's a pretty high 2.2 and you really want a 2.1, it might be worth considering some repeats. You can do up to 15 credits in August and still come out with an honours degree. But if you choose to repeat subjects, you forfeit these marks.

So if you got a 59 in an exam and wanted to repeat the exam, they remove that mark and whatever you get in the repeat is it. If that happens to be a 54, tough luck, you're stuck with it.

If you do choose to repeat some exams to get up to a 2.1, it's worth doing the Maths carefully. Repeating one exam at 5 credits may not be enough to bump you over the line.

It's definitely worth talking to Academic Advisory, just remember they'll be mad busy this time of year. Also, I'd recommend going to see your exam scripts when they're available. It'll help you pinpoint what exams you could do a lot better in. The marks alone won't tell you, some lecturer feedback will help.

---

What I mean by a 5 credit exam maybe not pushing you over the line is... you're looking at 5 credits out of 60. That means your 5 credit exam is worth 8.33% of your overall degree mark. If you repeat a 5 credit exam, the difference between a 2.2 and a 2.1 in that one exam is just under 1% of your overall degree mark.

Which is to say that repeating a 5 credit exam when your overall degree is e.g. 58.7 is definitely worth it.
But if your overall degree is 56 and you're hoping to get a 2.1... you'll be very hard pressed to do so even repeating 3 subjects in August.
I guess I'm saying it's worth repeating if you're confident you can improve your marks by at least an entire grade. Because 10% in a 5 credit module will just about get you 1% overall if you round it up.

But my Maths comes from Excel, so don't trust me with the numbers...

---

But then I guess another way to look at it is, you've now got about 6 weeks to study for repeat exams. That could easily be enough to knock out an extra grade in three 5 credit exams, if you study your head off every day until then. What's there to lose? Even if you screwed those exams up a bit, chances are you won't lose that 2.2 overall degree mark because the difference of a grade in each exam would be just under 1 percent.

Either way, go see your exam scripts first. Talk to the lecturers and ask their advice.

Toshi101

mickstupp wrote: »

If your third year marks are lower than the second year marks, then it happens automatically.

So your final high 2.2 already includes 70% of your third year marks and 30% of your second year marks.

If it's a pretty high 2.2 and you really want a 2.1, it might be worth considering some repeats. You can do up to 15 credits in August and still come out with an honours degree. But if you choose to repeat subjects, you forfeit these marks.

So if you got a 59 in an exam and wanted to repeat the exam, they remove that mark and whatever you get in the repeat is it. If that happens to be a 54, tough luck, you're stuck with it.

If you do choose to repeat some exams to get up to a 2.1, it's worth doing the Maths carefully. Repeating one exam at 5 credits may not be enough to bump you over the line.

It's definitely worth talking to Academic Advisory, just remember they'll be mad busy this time of year. Also, I'd recommend going to see your exam scripts when they're available. It'll help you pinpoint what exams you could do a lot better in. The marks alone won't tell you, some lecturer feedback will help.

Thanks man!

mickstupp

Also worth bearing in mind that a high 2.2 is often enough to get you into a Masters degree. And a Masters degree is much more likely to get you a job, since you're going to be in competition with people who definitely have postgraduate degrees.

PM me nudes

Taking the piss at this stage

XxMCRxBabyxX

Just so people know, a 59.1 is actually considered a 2.1 and 69.1 a First so don't worry about needing to repeat of you've reached that .1! It got me my degree!

Kiwi_knock

PM me nudes wrote: »

Taking the piss at this stage

Are you a postgrad student, because some postgrad students don't get their results till September after they have submitted their thesis. I know last year, I didn't get any results from my modules till September, so it might depend on your department.

mickstupp

^Yeah, me either. Didn't get them till around the time of the repeat results as far as I remember.

Toshi101

XxMCRxBabyxX wrote: »

Just so people know, a 59.1 is actually considered a 2.1 and 69.1 a First so don't worry about needing to repeat of you've reached that .1! It got me my degree!

Im on 59 need that one!!!

PM me nudes

Yeah postgrad, just got an email to say my provisional results were up on the noticeboard, great use that is :rolleyes:

XxMCRxBabyxX

Toshi101 wrote: »

Im on 59 need that one!!!

59.0? Sh*t. Go in for the consultation day on Tuesday and try an appeal. Go to everyone. You should be able to convince someone to bump you up enough to get that 0.1!

Toshi101

XxMCRxBabyxX wrote: »

59.0? Sh*t. Go in for the consultation day on Tuesday and try an appeal. Go to everyone. You should be able to convince someone to bump you up enough to get that 0.1!

Thats put my mind at ease! cheers!

shineon23

XxMCRxBabyxX wrote: »

59.0? Sh*t. Go in for the consultation day on Tuesday and try an appeal. Go to everyone. You should be able to convince someone to bump you up enough to get that 0.1!

+1

better news for you, 59.05 will be rounded up to 59.1, which will then be rounded up to 60. so you only need .05 more if you are on 59.

But definitely got o consultation day, my marks were miscounted, and in the end i think i ended up on 69.07 or 69.06 which was rounded up to 70.

Normally lecturers will do their best to push you over the line, meet as many of your lecturers as possible as over 12 modules you.re sure to find someone to bump you up a few per cent in a module (*fingers crossed)

Toshi101

Emailed the department earlier just asking about and they sent me back an email saying they have ammended one of my grades up 2% so my overall is 591 i.e 2:1. Absolutley delighted they were very helpful. Cheers for all the help guys!

mickstupp

^That kicks ass! Congratulations!

See that? You don't ask, you don't get. People should ask more.

GrandmaBasil

Hey guys, just wondering does anyone have any idea how the results are calculated? I'm trying to figure out whether or not to repeat exams to improve my grade.. I got 680/1000 and am just wondering if I repeated an exam that I got 60 in and in the repeat I got 64 does that mean that the 680 would become 684 or would it carry more weight because this particular exam is for a 7.5 credit module? My mind is boggled!

mickstupp

680/1000 is an average of your marks, it's not just added up.

Your degree is worth 60 credits, which is 1000 marks over all.

A 7.5 credit course is therefore worth 125 marks... (7.5/60)*1000.
The difference between a 2.1 and a 1.1 in your subject is thus 12.5 marks, i.e. 10% of 125.

So if you repeat and increase your mark by 4%, you're actually making a 5 mark improvement, i.e. 125*0.04... which would give you 685.

For you to get an overall first in your degree you need 691, as far as I know, so it would be safer for you to repeat three exams... or at least that's what I'd do. And you'd want to make sure they're exams that you feel you can guarantee a 4-6% increase in to be safe, assuming they were three 7.5 credit exams, that is... it'll be harder for you to get the marks required if you're repeating 5 credit modules.

But don't trust my maths, they come from excel, not teachers.

In my opinion you're close enough to the 1st to chance it. Your repeat mark will overwrite your summer mark, even if you do worse, bear that in mind. But even if you did do worse, you'd probably still keep the overall 2.1. Unless you didn't show up for the exam, or something similar.

On the other hand you have a high 2.1 degree, which is enough to get into any Masters course, so why risk it?

How so Joe

mickstupp wrote: »

680/1000 is an average of your marks, it's not just added up.

Your degree is worth 60 credits, which is 1000 marks over all.

A 7.5 credit course is therefore worth 125 marks... (7.5/60)*1000.
The difference between a 2.1 and a 1.1 in your subject is thus 12.5 marks, i.e. 10% of 125.

So if you repeat and increase your mark by 4%, you're actually making a 5 mark improvement, i.e. 125*0.04... which would give you 685.

For you to get an overall first in your degree you need 691, as far as I know, so it would be safer for you to repeat three exams... or at least that's what I'd do. And you'd want to make sure they're exams that you feel you can guarantee a 4-6% increase in to be safe, assuming they were three 7.5 credit exams, that is... it'll be harder for you to get the marks required if you're repeating 5 credit modules.

But don't trust my maths, they come from excel, not teachers.

In my opinion you're close enough to the 1st to chance it. Your repeat mark will overwrite your summer mark, even if you do worse, bear that in mind. But even if you did do worse, you'd probably still keep the overall 2.1. Unless you didn't show up for the exam, or something similar.

On the other hand you have a high 2.1 degree, which is enough to get into any Masters course, so why risk it?

Just a point to bear in mind: you can repeat fifteen credits without losing honours. That's only two 7.5 credit modules, not three. So you'd need to make up your deficit between two exams, increasing the amount you'd need from each module.

GrandmaBasil

Thanks so much for your reply! I'm pretty sure that's the only exam I'd repeat..but I'd rather even just appeal it if possible? I can't find anything about appeals on the Maynooth website! Also is it true that you can't graduate at the same time as everyone else if you repeat?

mickstupp wrote: »

680/1000 is an average of your marks, it's not just added up.

Your degree is worth 60 credits, which is 1000 marks over all.

A 7.5 credit course is therefore worth 125 marks... (7.5/60)*1000.
The difference between a 2.1 and a 1.1 in your subject is thus 12.5 marks, i.e. 10% of 125.

So if you repeat and increase your mark by 4%, you're actually making a 5 mark improvement, i.e. 125*0.04... which would give you 685.

For you to get an overall first in your degree you need 691, as far as I know, so it would be safer for you to repeat three exams... or at least that's what I'd do. And you'd want to make sure they're exams that you feel you can guarantee a 4-6% increase in to be safe, assuming they were three 7.5 credit exams, that is... it'll be harder for you to get the marks required if you're repeating 5 credit modules.

But don't trust my maths, they come from excel, not teachers.

In my opinion you're close enough to the 1st to chance it. Your repeat mark will overwrite your summer mark, even if you do worse, bear that in mind. But even if you did do worse, you'd probably still keep the overall 2.1. Unless you didn't show up for the exam, or something similar.

On the other hand you have a high 2.1 degree, which is enough to get into any Masters course, so why risk it?

mickstupp

GrandmaBasil wrote: »

Also is it true that you can't graduate at the same time as everyone else if you repeat?

Yes, that's true, you graduate around Halloween, the 29th or 30th of October, probably. There's two days of conferrings then instead of three. It's not just repeats though. Plenty of Masters students, PhDs, people who couldn't make their summer exams or conferrings for whatever reason.

Gotta tell you though, it's not like they do it by class anyway. I was graduating with about 170 or so other people, only knew 2 of them.

I guess the best place to ask about appeals would be at the consultation sessions where you can see your exam scripts. That should be this week sometime, tomorrow or Wednesday maybe? One of the lecturers will be able to show you where you lost marks and you might be able to argue your case there and then.

Beyond that, there's the examinations site: https://www.maynoothuniversity.ie/exams/information-students

Also, I think if you were only willing to repeat that one exam, then to get to a 1st class honours degree from 680, you'd need 11 marks, i.e. about a 9% increase in your grade for that module. That's a very tough ask. Also, I think it's 70 quid a pop for resits. Don't know how much (if anything) they charge for appeals or rechecks.

Oh, found it, 25 quid for every recheck of a paper, and you have to ask for it within 2 weeks, so before Friday week I suppose. After that, 60 quid for each appeal of an individual subject mark.

XxMCRxBabyxX

mickstupp wrote: »

Gotta tell you though, it's not like they do it by class anyway. I was graduating with about 170 or so other people, only knew 2 of them.

Well that really depends on what degree you're doing tbh. If you're doing a programme with loads of subject choices, e.g. Arts or Science, then the chances of you knowing people in your graduation is slimmer than if you're graduating in Law or Psychology.

marko93

For once I don't have repeats, but I have a friend who's out of the country at the moment and has some, when are the fees for it due?

marko93

For once I don't have repeats, but I have a friend who's out of the country at the moment and has some, when are the fees for it due?

JayEnnis

My results say I got 550/1000. Is it possible to make this up to a 2:1 in repeats? I've a 5 credit exam that I'm confident I can bring from 40% into the 70% range with even just two weeks study. Would that be enough?

mickstupp

Hi Jay,
As far as I know, you need 591 to get an overall 2.1.

Your 5 credit module is worth 83.33 marks (i.e. (5/60)*1000).
40% is 33.33 marks, 70% is 58.33 marks.

So even if you increased it to 70%, i.e. by 30%, you're still only gaining 25 marks overall, it'd only get you to 575, so you'd need another 16 marks from somewhere.

You'd need to repeat probably another two 5 credit exams, and do really well in both, increasing by about 10% in each one.

But don't trust my maths, they come from Excel.

Also there may be a deadline for submitting to do a repeat exam or exams, don't know when that is.

JayEnnis

mickstupp wrote: »

Hi Jay,
As far as I know, you need 591 to get an overall 2.1.

Your 5 credit module is worth 83.33 marks (i.e. (5/60)*1000).
40% is 33.33 marks, 70% is 58.33 marks.

So even if you increased it to 70%, i.e. by 30%, you're still only gaining 25 marks overall, it'd only get you to 575, so you'd need another 16 marks from somewhere.

You'd need to repeat probably another two 5 credit exams, and do really well in both, increasing by about 10% in each one.

But don't trust my maths, they come from Excel.

Also there may be a deadline for submitting to do a repeat exam or exams, don't know when that is.

It says the 17th in the letter that I received. I wouldn't be too confident about bringing the others up much. I may just take the 2:2 as I'm planning on a masters after a years break. I honestly wouldn't have enough time to study now that I'm working full time. Thank you for your help!