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Wimbledon 2015

  • 21-06-2015 2:37pm
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    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,556 ✭✭✭


    Wimbledon 2015 (Monday 29th June - Sunday 12th July)

    Qualifying begins 22 June.

    Presumably Djokovic and Federer will be #1,#2 seeds respectively.

    I can't see past Murray winning it to be honest, he's been getting closer and closer to ending his losing streak against Djokovic and I think he'll finally do it.

    Djokovic also hurting from his FO final defeat.

    Wawrinka to underperform ... Federer might make it to the final - but wherever he meets Murray will be it for him.



    Serena should walk the womens.


    Good luck to McGee in the qualies ...


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Comments

  • Closed Accounts Posts: 492 ✭✭Wicklow Brave


    Yeah I think Murray will win aswell. It will be similar to 2013 I think. Murray will win, Djokovic will get to the Semis or final and Nadal and Federer won't get past 4th Round.

    Murray playing very well and likes grass, grass is Djokovic's worst surface and Murray is better on grass, also Djokovic will be reeling after his loss at RG. I don't think Nadal is finished altogether, I actually think he can win the US Open but his days of reaching Wimbledon finals are over. Federer I'm unsure of but he certainly won't beat Djokovic or Murray imo and he could get beat early by someone playing fearlessly with nothing to lose.

    Serena will win on the snaff, no one will touch her.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,919 ✭✭✭RosyLily


    James McGee will play Tobias Kamke in the first round of qualifying. They are the first match on Court 10 tomorrow. Jurgen Melzer will play his brother Gerald in qualifying as well!:o


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,556 ✭✭✭the_monkey


    Federer to win his 8th Wimbledon title.

    ha !

    forget about it...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,428 ✭✭✭MrKingsley


    I would love a federer nadal final with Federer winning.

    However realistically murray and djokovic will probably be in it.

    Id love to see a big server going deep as well however


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,842 ✭✭✭Floppybits


    McGee has taken the first set in a tie break and it is 2-2 in the second.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,556 ✭✭✭the_monkey


    Well, thats it for McGee ... lost 2-1 ... :(


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,919 ✭✭✭RosyLily


    Damn!! Gutted for McGee. :(


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,556 ✭✭✭the_monkey


    It's a tough world in pro tennis ..


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,024 ✭✭✭ballyargus


    If Wawrinka serves and plays his service game to any standard near what he hit in the FO then he definitely has a chance.

    I wouldn't discount Federer. He was a finalist last year and won Halle again at the weekend. His form this season has been consistent on all surfaces and this is his favourite turf of all.

    I don't think the FO loss will phase Novak too much though. And I'd be surprised if he didn't win it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 65 ✭✭StillIntact


    Drawing Kamke then Falla plus another match to get into the main draw was extremely tough.


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  • Moderators, Sports Moderators, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,559 Mod ✭✭✭✭yerwanthere123


    As always, I didn't realise a thread had been created. Really disappointed for James :(


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,559 Mod ✭✭✭✭yerwanthere123


    MrKingsley wrote: »
    I would love a federer nadal final with Federer winning.

    However realistically murray and djokovic will probably be in it.

    Id love to see a big server going deep as well however

    Really? :confused:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,428 ✭✭✭MrKingsley


    Really? :confused:

    Yep i would. I see it as a massive skill and to execute it under pressure is more impressive than rallying from 2 metres behind the baseline waiting for the opponent to make a mistake, IMO


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 57,372 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    I can't see Roger challenging at SW19 this year. I hope Andy wins. It's Andy or Nole for me. Not sure SW19 suits Stan enough.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,067 ✭✭✭✭fryup


    moving Wimbledon a week back, doesn't seem right:( its like moving christmas to a new date...agree??

    it just isn't cricket old boy


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 695 ✭✭✭lostcat


    When is the main draw being made?

    Djokovic for me is the favorite, esp if he avoids a Murray Semi, which even if he wins it will probably be a long one. I don't see a problem with the FO loss, he lost the final last year as well and it didn't impede his wimby.

    Murray may be getting closer but Djokovic has beaten him four times already this year and I cant see that changing unless Murray gets him after a draining match beforehand.

    No one else apart from those two has much of a chance, Federer is playing nice sharp tennis but he only has to have one mediocre day to be knocked out - easy enough on grass, Cilic brought Djokovic to 5 sets last year (only player apart from Federer to do it) but he has been in poor form, and Stan is far too streaky to depend on. No one else has shown enough to win it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,919 ✭✭✭RosyLily


    Draw is on Friday I think. Usually around 10am.


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,559 Mod ✭✭✭✭yerwanthere123


    fryup wrote: »
    moving Wimbledon a week back, doesn't seem right:( its like moving christmas to a new date...agree??

    it just isn't cricket old boy

    No, I think it's terrific, it's actually felt like a grass season this year. Still hard to consider it a proper season without a masters, but it's been better.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,842 ✭✭✭Floppybits


    Seedings are out.

    1 Novak Djokovic (Ser),
    2 Roger Federer (Swi),
    3 Andy Murray (GB),
    4 Stan Wawrinka (Swi),
    5 Kei Nishikori (Jpn),
    6 Tomas Berdych (Cze),
    7 Milos Raonic (Can),
    8 David Ferrer (Spa)
    9 Marin Cilic (Cro),
    10 Rafael Nadal (Spa),
    11 Grigor Dimitrov (Bul),
    12 Gilles Simon (Fra),
    13 Jo-Wilfried Tsonga (Fra),
    14 Kevin Anderson (SA),
    15 Feliciano Lopez (Spa),
    16 David Goffin (Bel)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 852 ✭✭✭2lazytogetup


    I got an email from Tennis Ireland to say Wimbledon was going to be on TG4. But I cant see it on the listings. i know its on setanda in any case


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 492 ✭✭Wicklow Brave


    I got an email from Tennis Ireland to say Wimbledon was going to be on TG4. But I cant see it on the listings. i know its on setanda in any case

    It's on TG4 every year, as Gaeilge of course.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,919 ✭✭✭RosyLily


    It's on TG4 every year, as Gaeilge of course.

    And they have highlights that night, usually around 11 or half past. In English. I'm such an addict I watch the matches during the day and then the highlights at night.:o


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,556 ✭✭✭the_monkey


    It's on TG4 every year, as Gaeilge of course.

    Commentary in Irish ?

    That must be interesting to say the least - do they have half an idea of tennis ? or are they GAA commentators ushered in and told to imagine it's hurley but with rackets ??


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 852 ✭✭✭2lazytogetup


    the_monkey wrote: »
    Commentary in Irish ?

    That must be interesting to say the least - do they have half an idea of tennis ? or are they GAA commentators ushered in and told to imagine it's hurley but with rackets ??

    great, just cant seem to find it on their website:

    http://www.tg4.ie/en/live-sport/schedule-sport.html


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 492 ✭✭Wicklow Brave


    the_monkey wrote: »
    Commentary in Irish ?

    That must be interesting to say the least - do they have half an idea of tennis ? or are they GAA commentators ushered in and told to imagine it's hurley but with rackets ??

    I'm not sure how much they know tbh. I watch on the BBC and I'd have to brush up on the aul cupla focal if I were to understand them. I actually think TG4 use the same commentators for Wimbledon that they use for their Tour de France coverage but I could be mistaken. Because Wimbledon is a week later this year it will actually clash with the first week of the Tour so I'm not sure what they will show.


  • Moderators, Arts Moderators Posts: 23,958 Mod ✭✭✭✭TICKLE_ME_ELMO


    great, just cant seem to find it on their website:

    http://www.tg4.ie/en/live-sport/schedule-sport.html

    I just checked on UPC guide thingy for next week and can't find it either? They don't even have highlights listed for the evening.

    It is listed on Setanta Ireland though... have they nicked the rights?

    EDIT: I've just asked them on Twitter and they said unfortunately no, they're not showing it this year :(


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,919 ✭✭✭RosyLily


    Aw no!!!!:( Maybe you're right TME...Setanta have the rights now. What a shame. Those late-night highlights were really handy.

    Got an email from Wimbledon reminding me that Ticketmaster will also have tickets available. The temptation!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,658 ✭✭✭Halloween Jack


    Murray and fed in same half of the draw.....

    Nadal in murrays quarter too... Berdych in that half too.

    Djokovic and Stan on the other side.

    Great draw for djokovic


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,276 ✭✭✭Memnoch


    Dream come true for Murray. Not a surprise to see him get this draw with no Novak or Stan, the two most likely to beat him in his half.

    Wimbledon do a sterling job again. They'd be confident enough in Murray brushing past an aging Federer. Natal probably won't even make it that far and Tsonga's a known choker.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 695 ✭✭✭lostcat


    Pretty good draw for Djokovic, first 'handy' looking one he has got in a while. Nishikori and Cilic might make things interesting, and of course Stan might play well two tournaments in a row for the first time...

    The other half looks pretty treacherous, but its funny how these things can unfold.

    Really looking forward to it now.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,919 ✭✭✭RosyLily


    Really interesting men's draw!

    In the women's, Serena and Maria are in the same half. Serena plays Gasparyan in the first round. Maria will play Konta. Bencic, Azarenka, Pironkova, Ivanovic, Venus and Safarova also in that side. Serena and Venus could meet in the 4th round. Defending champion Kvitova begins her defense against Kiki Bertens. Jankovic, Svitolina, Halep and Wozniacki in her half. Can't see Bouchard doing much - especially if she hasn't recovered from her abdominal injury.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,658 ✭✭✭Halloween Jack


    Memnoch wrote: »
    Dream come true for Murray. Not a surprise to see him get this draw with no Novak or Stan, the two most likely to beat him in his half.

    Wimbledon do a sterling job again. They'd be confident enough in Murray brushing past an aging Federer. Natal probably won't even make it that far and Tsonga's a known choker.

    Hardly, wawrinka has hardly ever done anything on grass, look at queens last week, when incidentally federer was winning an 8th title at Halle. He's the best grass court player of all time and still a major threat, as evidenced by reaching the final last year.

    If murray is to win he'll have to beat possibly all 3 of the old big four. No easy feat even with two of them in decline.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 376 ✭✭curiosity


    lostcat wrote: »
    Pretty good draw for Djokovic, first 'handy' looking one he has got in a while. Nishikori and Cilic might make things interesting, and of course Stan might play well two tournaments in a row for the first time...

    The other half looks pretty treacherous, but its funny how these things can unfold.

    Really looking forward to it now.

    Djokovic has the highest unseeded player in R1, a potential R2 vs Hewitt (in his last Wimbly) in R2, maybe Tomic in R3, maybe Anderson (Queen's finalist) in R4, maybe Nishikori in quarters, maybe Stan in semis. Hardly a 'handy' draw, imo.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,276 ✭✭✭Memnoch


    Hardly, wawrinka has hardly ever done anything on grass, look at queens last week, when incidentally federer was winning an 8th title at Halle. He's the best grass court player of all time and still a major threat, as evidenced by reaching the final last year.

    If murray is to win he'll have to beat possibly all 3 of the old big four. No easy feat even with two of them in decline.

    I would suggest you look back at Wimbeldon last year. Where Wawrinka was forced to play three days in a row and got completely shafted by the Wimbeldon committee who refused to allow play on Sunday (something that would never have been allowed to happen to dear Andy - one need only look back at the Murray camps consternation when Andy had to play two days in a row at a previous U.S. Open due to rain)

    Despite this, Stanimal won two of those matches and only lost to Federer in the semis in the fifth set because he just plain ran out of gas. Had he had a similar schedule to precious Andy he would have made the finals and given Djokovic a run for his money.

    A switched on Wawrinka in grand slams is a totally different beast, as we saw at the Australian last year and at the French this year. Wimbeldon committee have done their boy another predictable solid to give him the best possible chance of reaching the finals.

    Classic British fair play in full view as always.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,276 ✭✭✭Memnoch


    curiosity wrote: »
    Djokovic has the highest unseeded player in R1, a potential R2 vs Hewitt (in his last Wimbly) in R2, maybe Tomic in R3, maybe Anderson (Queen's finalist) in R4, maybe Nishikori in quarters, maybe Stan in semis. Hardly a 'handy' draw, imo.

    Yeah the spin on this is hilarious. They've done their best to make it as easy as possible for Murray. Though not as easy as last year as the lack of 'challenge' in the lead up was blamed for his dismantling by Grigor.

    He won't face Nadal, who will get knocked out (he faces belluci in the first round who beat him already this year if I remember though I think Nadal will beat him this time. Maybe he'll get another time violation on break point from an umpire in a crucial moment in the early rounds, like at Queens this year)

    So Murray will likely face Ferrer, then choker Tsonga, and a fading Federer who got destroyed by Stan in the French. Should be ideally positioned to face a knackered Djokovic in the final.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 57,372 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    Murray has a 7 time and a two time champ in his draw and they're doing their best to make it easy for him? I have a feeling had he been put on Nole's side folks would be arguing that he avoids Roger and Rafa!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,919 ✭✭✭RosyLily


    There's no pleasing some people. Any of the top 4 get a supposedly "easy draw" - favouritism!! I doubt the draw is doctored to suit a player. I can't remember any talk of the US Open being kinder to Roddick, Agassi or Sampras back in the day.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 57,372 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    Memnoch wrote: »
    So Murray will likely face Ferrer, then choker Tsonga, and a fading Federer who got destroyed by Stan in the French. Should be ideally positioned to face a knackered Djokovic in the final.

    This is beyond silly!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 57,372 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    Who was it that beat Andy last year? Oh yes, Dimitrov. Tsonga/Ferrer and Nadal and Fed are more than capable on their day of being hell for any player, not just Murray!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,658 ✭✭✭Halloween Jack


    walshb wrote: »
    This is beyond silly!

    Yep.

    As is calling someone 'Stanimal'......


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,276 ✭✭✭Memnoch


    It couldn't be more obvious. Who would be more likely to beat Murray on current/recent form? Wawrinka(who destroyed Federer in the semis at the French and then did the same to Djokovic in the final), nishikori (beat Novak at US, beat Murray at the world tours) or Djokovic. Or Federer(doesn't look like he can beat Novak or Murray these days and the most likely of the top four seeds to get upset) and Nadal still nowhere near his best down to ten in the rankings.

    What a joke of a draw. They did the same last time, gave Murray an easy draw only to see him upset by Dimitrov who no one expected to be good enough to do that. Did they not bump up his seeding too last year?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 492 ✭✭Wicklow Brave


    Hmm tough to call the men's this year.

    I'm gonna go Rafa to make the Quarters. He's had extra prep compared to recent yrs by his earlier defeat at RG and with Wimbledon being a week later. He also seems physically ok and if he can get through the first and second rounds might gain confidence. Aswell I'd say he's sickened getting knocked out by players outside the top 100 the last 3 yrs and he'll do his dogged best to not let it happen again (meanwhile I'll be keeping an eye on his US Open odds).

    He'll run into Murray in the QF and lose. Murray will beat Fed or maybe Berdych in the Semis.

    Novak will cruise into Semis as he always does (dunno who's in his QF tbh). Stan is a hard one to call, he'll lose in the first round or face Novak in the Semis. I'd fancy Stan to beat Raonic if he gets that far anyway, never been a fan of Raonic.

    Novak will beat Stan in 4 setting up a repeat of the 2013 final. Murray won't have it as easy this time but he'll win in 4 or 5.

    Serena will win but I kinda hope she doesn't even though I am a big fan.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,919 ✭✭✭RosyLily


    Memnoch wrote: »
    What a joke of a draw. They did the same last time, gave Murray an easy draw only to see him upset by Dimitrov who no one expected to be good enough to do that. Did they not bump up his seeding too last year?

    By his standards, Murray was pretty mediocre last year. It was only 9 months after his surgery so he was still rusty. And Dimitrov played some great tennis in their QF. Wimbledon take into account a player's form on grass and their past 2 performances at SW19. Murray was the defending champion so his seeding was bumped.


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,559 Mod ✭✭✭✭yerwanthere123


    walshb wrote: »
    Murray has a 7 time and a two time champ in his draw and they're doing their best to make it easy for him? I have a feeling had he been put on Nole's side folks would be arguing that he avoids Roger and Rafa!

    I know people like to make excuses when Murray is successful, but doing it before the tournament has even started is a new one :pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,206 ✭✭✭✭Rjd2


    curiosity wrote: »
    Djokovic has the highest unseeded player in R1, a potential R2 vs Hewitt (in his last Wimbly) in R2, maybe Tomic in R3, maybe Anderson (Queen's finalist) in R4, maybe Nishikori in quarters, maybe Stan in semis. Hardly a 'handy' draw, imo.

    Hewitt is ****e these days, absolutely past it. He won't cause Novak a bother whatsoever. Tomic is tricky of course but is he tougher than Tsonga? Nope. He has also done **** all year.

    Nishikori and Stan have achieved little on grass, Nishi is only coming back from injury while have a look at the record of Wawrinka on grass.

    Kohlschriber is a tricky first round draw, but Kohly is a bit of a bottler and shouldn't be a huge issue.

    Its not the minefield that some are saying.


    Memnoch wrote: »
    Yeah the spin on this is hilarious. They've done their best to make it as easy as possible for Murray. Though not as easy as last year as the lack of 'challenge' in the lead up was blamed for his dismantling by Grigor.

    He won't face Nadal, who will get knocked out (he faces belluci in the first round who beat him already this year if I remember though I think Nadal will beat him this time. Maybe he'll get another time violation on break point from an umpire in a crucial moment in the early rounds, like at Queens this year)

    So Murray will likely face Ferrer, then choker Tsonga, and a fading Federer who got destroyed by Stan in the French. Should be ideally positioned to face a knackered Djokovic in the final.

    If you really believe they interfered with the murray draw, off down to the bookies, all of them have made him a bigger price after the draw. :pac:


    Federer that 7 time Wimbledon winner and who lost last year in the final in five will be a pushover.:eek:
    Ignore Federer getting battered by Stan at the French, he has struggled their over the years and always turned up at Wimbledon. Heck Gulbis smashed him last year at the French before Wimbledon.

    Tsonga has always been good on grass as well.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,206 ✭✭✭✭Rjd2


    Memnoch wrote: »
    It couldn't be more obvious. Who would be more likely to beat Murray on current/recent form? Wawrinka(who destroyed Federer in the semis at the French and then did the same to Djokovic in the final), nishikori (beat Novak at US, beat Murray at the world tours) or Djokovic. Or Federer(doesn't look like he can beat Novak or Murray these days and the most likely of the top four seeds to get upset) and Nadal still nowhere near his best down to ten in the rankings.


    Have you looked at their respective records on grass?

    Nishikori who has never got to a quarter final at Wimbledon and is coming of an injury, Stan who has been to Wimbledon 9 times but only got to the quarters finals once are tougher opponents than Federer who has won it seven times and was a finalist two other times.:confused:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,276 ✭✭✭Memnoch


    Rjd2 wrote: »
    Have you looked at their respective records on grass?

    Nishikori who has never got to a quarter final at Wimbledon and is coming of an injury, Stan who has been to Wimbledon 9 times but only got to the quarters finals once are tougher opponents than Federer who has won it seven times and was a finalist two other times.:confused:

    Yes. Federer is finished. He will never win another grand slam. He can't bet Novak or Murray right now. And probably not Stan either in best of five. Only reason he beat Stan last year was cause of Stan having to play three days in a row.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,206 ✭✭✭✭Rjd2


    Memnoch wrote: »
    Yes. Federer is finished. He will never win another grand slam. He can't bet Novak or Murray right now. And probably not Stan either in best of five. Only reason he beat Stan last year was cause of Stan having to play three days in a row.

    Very harsh.

    So the man who has won Wimbledon 7 times had no chance whatsoever of beating Stan who had achieved absolute **** all on the surface? A last 16 appearance been the peak of his achievements here previously? :eek::confused:

    Federer is probably near the end, but still a threat on grass, he did reach the final here last year and was edged by Novak in five. Not to shabby at all.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,276 ✭✭✭Memnoch


    Rjd2 wrote: »
    Very harsh.

    So the man who has won Wimbledon 7 times had no chance whatsoever of beating Stan who had achieved absolute **** all on the surface? A last 16 appearance been the peak of his achievements here previously? :eek::confused:

    Federer is probably near the end, but still a threat on grass, he did reach the final here last year and was edged by Novak in five. Not to shabby at all.

    I wouldn't say no chance. But it was a close match, and this was despite Stan having to play three days in a row, and his last match was a five setter too. In the end fatigue took its toll.

    I have no doubt that a fresh Stan with a day's rest that he should have had, would have beaten Federer in the semis last year.

    You don't realise that Stan's a different player in slams since he won the Australian.

    And we are a year on now, Federer looks half a step slower, especially against the other top four.

    I'd back him to best Raonic, Nishikori or Berdych, but not Novak, Stan, or Murray.


  • Moderators, Arts Moderators Posts: 23,958 Mod ✭✭✭✭TICKLE_ME_ELMO


    Ferrer is out with an elbow injury.


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