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Yeats College Galway, facial piercings?

  • 20-06-2015 11:25am
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1


    Hi, was wondering if Yeats have a rule against facial piercings?? I want to get a nose piercing done this summer, but I'm going to Yeats in September.. Any help would be great!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,769 ✭✭✭nuac


    Seoighe_3 wrote: »
    Hi, was wondering if Yeats have a rule against facial piercings?? I want to get a nose piercing done this summer, but I'm going to Yeats in September.. Any help would be great!

    I don't know their policy on that topic. How important is it to you, compared to your studies?

    I do know parents who sent their daughter there some years ago for repeat LC.The Principal seemed dedicated to the project. He used to visit the pubs and "advise" any of his students there to go back to their digs and study .


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 81,220 ✭✭✭✭biko


    Ask them yourself? www.yeatscollege.ie/about/contact-us
    Worst case scenario you have to remove piercing when you start.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,398 ✭✭✭inisboffin


    nuac wrote: »
    I don't know their policy on that topic. How important is it to you, compared to your studies?

    I do know parents who sent their daughter there some years ago for repeat LC.The Principal seemed dedicated to the project. He used to visit the pubs and "advise" any of his students there to go back to their digs and study .

    Lol! Going on the lash and missing lectures is a different thing to a body mod, and the latter shouldn't negatively impact studies in the same way.
    I'd ask them OP.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 154 ✭✭SameHorse


    I was a yeats student. I had a facial piercing. Was ordered to remove it or be kicked out. Terry was a real arse about it.


    Unless policies have changed of course.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,292 ✭✭✭✭Mrs OBumble


    inisboffin wrote: »
    Lol! Going on the lash and missing lectures is a different thing to a body mod, and the latter shouldn't negatively impact studies in the same way.

    School rules are usually about the staff achieving control, so that they are perceived as having authority and obeyed when they give instructions on things that are related to studies, rather than a direct link to impact on study.

    It's also safer for society if the kids can rebel by doing relatively harmless things (with facial piercings, the worst risk is that sepsis / toxic-shock syndrome for the individual concerned, or that the facial scarring limits job options in later life), rather than things which endanger other people.

    OP ask them. Good luck with your studies.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,398 ✭✭✭inisboffin


    School rules are usually about the staff achieving control, so that they are perceived as having authority and obeyed when they give instructions on things that are related to studies, rather than a direct link to impact on study.

    Yeah, I'd hoped they'd just evolved slightly since I was in School. :)
    I know workplace rules on tattoos and piercings have become way more lenient over the last 20 years (in many fields). It wasn't long ago that you could walk the length of town and not see a single tattoo or piercing (bar on a biker or a hippie), nowadays they're way more common/socially acceptable.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,519 ✭✭✭GalwayGrrrrrl


    I agree that tattoos and piercings are more common but you won't see any professionals with visible tattoos or piercings- eg healthcare, lawyers etc.


  • Posts: 24,714 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    but you won't see any professionals with visible tattoos or piercings- eg healthcare, lawyers etc.

    and rightly so.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,681 ✭✭✭✭P_1


    I agree that tattoos and piercings are more common but you won't see any professionals with visible tattoos or piercings- eg healthcare, lawyers etc.

    Actually you'd see more than the one or two.
    and rightly so.

    Pourquoi?


  • Posts: 24,714 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    P_1 wrote: »
    Pourquoi?

    Looks very unprofessional (in any role I might add) to have visible tattoos or piercings other than earrings (on a woman, none at all on a man)


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,644 ✭✭✭Asmodean


    Are ye not gone a bit off topic there lads? Surprised the mods haven't waded in yet.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 771 ✭✭✭Long Gone


    Asmodean wrote: »
    Are ye not gone a bit off topic there lads? Surprised the mods haven't waded in yet.

    I thought that was the topic ? ? .:confused:

    Rings in noses are absolutely repulsive and should only be worn by bulls. And anyone who believes that you're not putting yourself at a serious disadvantage in the work market by having body piercings or tattoos is completely deluded.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,681 ✭✭✭✭P_1


    Long Gone wrote: »
    I thought that was the topic ? ? .:confused:

    Rings in noses are repulsive and should only be worn by bulls. And anyone who believes that you're not putting yourself at a serious disadvantage in the work marked by having body piercings or tattoos is completely deluded.

    Personal tastes I guess. It is a shame that that still is the case in Ireland but for a fair minority, it is.

    If you have the talent and skills to do the job, your appearance should not matter. Tattoos and piercings are rather less stigmatised these days, hopefully soon the stigma shall go away.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,644 ✭✭✭Asmodean


    Long Gone wrote: »
    I thought that was the topic ? ? .:confused:

    Nope. Topic was someone asking if Yeats allow facial piercings, not 'let's have a go at anyone who has tattoos or piercings.'


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,292 ✭✭✭✭Mrs OBumble


    inisboffin wrote: »
    Yeah, I'd hoped they'd just evolved slightly since I was in School. :)
    I know workplace rules on tattoos and piercings have become way more lenient over the last 20 years (in many fields). It wasn't long ago that you could walk the length of town and not see a single tattoo or piercing (bar on a biker or a hippie), nowadays they're way more common/socially acceptable.

    We still get people complaining over in Work & Jobs that they didn't get hired just because of a piercing, or whatever.

    Obviously not everyone's attitudes have changed.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,519 ✭✭✭GalwayGrrrrrl


    My understanding of Yeats is that it is for people who want to get high points to go to university (and maybe into a traditional profession) If you want to go into a profession it's not a good idea (IMO) to have lots of piercings. A small nose piercing that will heal up is probably not a big deal but excessive piercings could limit you in the future. Its a shame people are still judged on their appearance but it's the world we live in.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 771 ✭✭✭Long Gone


    Asmodean wrote: »
    Nope. Topic was someone asking if Yeats allow facial piercings, not 'let's have a go at anyone who has tattoos or piercings.'

    LOL :D - This would be some "Discussion Forum" if the moderators were crazy enough to define going off topic as narrowly as going any further than answering a specific question asked in the OP ! .:rolleyes:

    Neither have I seen anyone "having a go" at anybody in the thread....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,644 ✭✭✭Asmodean


    I dunno, I've seen them fly off the handle over much smaller things than this! Boards mod logic though, I'll never understand it.
    Rings in noses are absolutely repulsive

    Seems a bit harsh to me to be fair. I completely understand anyone saying they wouldn't be a fan of piercings but to say its absolutely repulsive is a bit strong no?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 771 ✭✭✭Long Gone


    Asmodean wrote: »
    Seems a bit harsh to me to be fair. I completely understand anyone saying they wouldn't be a fan of piercings but to say its absolutely repulsive is a bit strong no?

    I'm just expressing my own personal opinion - I thought that was the point of a discussion forum ? Personally I do find nose piercings (particularly those where a ring is inserted through the septum) absolutely repulsive. I know that I am far from alone in my views. I was checking out of a hotel recently and the (otherwise very pleasant) girl who checked me out had a large one (ring through the septum that is :)) - I literally found it repulsive to look at, and to me it gave a very bad and unprofessional impression both of her and of the hotel.

    As regards the job market, I'm speaking from personal knowledge. I have a managerial position and hire people myself (as do some of my colleagues). I can assure you that someone turning up for an interview with piercings where I work would be a sure fire way for the interview to be concluded as quickly as possible without causing offense to the job applicant - and for their CVs to then be immediately consigned to the shredder.....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,681 ✭✭✭✭P_1


    Long Gone wrote: »

    As regards the job market, I'm speaking from personal knowledge. I have a managerial position and hire people myself (as do some of my colleagues). I can assure you that someone turning up for an interview with piercings where I work would be a sure fire way for the interview to be concluded as quickly as possible without causing offense to the job applicant - and for their CVs to then be immediately consigned to the shredder.....

    Just curious (not having a go but as someone who is pierced and tattooed) why would that be the case? My CV would surely be enough to get my foot in the door, would that really be all it would take for you not to give me the time of day at an interview?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,644 ✭✭✭Asmodean


    It's a shame you're so narrow minded as to look at something as trivial as a nose ring and allow it to taint your entire experience of a hotel. If the girl at reception was unprofessional or something to that effect that's completely fair but you should never judge someone by their appearance alone. It's an awful old fashioned way of thinking but I know at the end of the day it's no use even discussing it with people because it's a waste of time and energy.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 771 ✭✭✭Long Gone


    P_1 wrote: »
    Just curious (not having a go but as someone who is pierced and tattooed) why would that be the case? My CV would surely be enough to get my foot in the door, would that really be all it would take for you not to give me the time of day at an interview?

    I'm not having a go at anyone either, and I admire your confidence that your CV would get your foot in the door where I work :), but you need to think about something called "career realism" before you have either piercings or tattoos. Firms have every right to decide who represents them. An organisation that wishes to project a smart, professional image, or whose clients would likely be put off by them, is entitled to ban or limit body modifications. Basically for many professional and other roles workers can choose whether they prefer having piercings and/or tattoos or a job. For an employer, if they employ people with body piercings and/or tattoos in a customer-facing role, it could have an impact on reputation and doesn't portray a good corporate image. That is the reality, and before anyone suggests that the employer's right to choose who he employs should be restricted by law, that would not only be unfair and impractical but (perhaps more importantly) unenforceable. Around the the world the law overwhelmingly does not protect tattooed or body pierced employees.In Japan, where tattoos and piercings are widely associated with organised crime, bans are almost universal. A US federal appeals court ruled in 2006 that ordering public employees to cover up their tattoos did not violate their First Amendment rights. The Metropolitan Police in London do not allow body piercings or visible tattoos on their members. The list continues. Body piercings and tattoos are seriously bad news for your career prospects in many areas - The only possible exception being if you're applying for a job in body piercing or as a tattoo artist !:)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,398 ✭✭✭inisboffin


    Long Gone wrote: »
    I'm just expressing my own personal opinion - I thought that was the point of a discussion forum ? Personally I do find nose piercings (particularly those where a ring is inserted through the septum) absolutely repulsive. I know that I am far from alone in my views. I was checking out of a hotel recently and the (otherwise very pleasant) girl who checked me out had a large one (ring through the septum that is :)) - I literally found it repulsive to look at, and to me it gave a very bad and unprofessional impression both of her and of the hotel.

    As regards the job market, I'm speaking from personal knowledge. I have a managerial position and hire people myself (as do some of my colleagues). I can assure you that someone turning up for an interview with piercings where I work would be a sure fire way for the interview to be concluded as quickly as possible without causing offense to the job applicant - and for their CVs to then be immediately consigned to the shredder.....

    I don't particularly like gaudy long false nails on people but it's a fashion thing and I would hope it wouldn't stop me from hiring them (although it is far more likely to impede in a job than say a nose piercing).

    I'm a bit confused at the term 'professional' (although someone did further define it as 'traditional' profession). I think attitudes have greatly changed in Ireland with regard to tattoos and piercings, but we are still not as 'liberal' as a lot of Europe or some parts of the world.

    Tattoo used to mean sailor/military/biker or rough, but now it is as much a fashion statement as anything. I don't think it's black and white either. I've seen receptionists in classy hotels here with several ear piercings.

    My consultant doc has a fairly visible tattoo on his forearm, and his sleeves are not always down. My neighbour's Vet has tattoos, and my neighbour is a successful farmer and has those large gauge ear piercings. The cattle don't seem to mind.
    It's a bit silly when you bring gender into it with regard to ear piercing.

    It's one thing someone having HATE tattooed on a knuckle being refused a job at a hotel, but surely not the same thing for someone with a rose on their wrist or something. Why are people so afraid of tattoos and piercings? And it does not directly relate to dealing with the public or wage amounts. Plenty of people in IT, Actors, Musicians etc with tattoos and piercings.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 771 ✭✭✭Long Gone


    Asmodean wrote: »
    It's a shame you're so narrow minded as to look at something as trivial as a nose ring and allow it to taint your entire experience of a hotel. If the girl at reception was unprofessional or something to that effect that's completely fair but you should never judge someone by their appearance alone. It's an awful old fashioned way of thinking but I know at the end of the day it's no use even discussing it with people because it's a waste of time and energy.

    Well to be fair the hotel was a bit of a dump as well and I won't be staying there again ! .:) I don't think I'm narrow minded at all - I've just explained that I find piercings repulsive. To me the girl at reception was being unprofessional by having an extremely large ring through her septum. I didn't make any other judgements about her other than I found her nose ring physically repulsive and I didn't think that her wearing it was a professional thing to do for someone who was representing the hotel in a customer facing role. People do get judged by their appearance - That's the real world.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,681 ✭✭✭✭P_1


    Long Gone wrote: »
    I'm not having a go at anyone either, and I admire your confidence that your CV would get your foot in the door where I work :), but you need to think about something called "career realism" before you have either piercings or tattoos. Firms have every right to decide who represents them. An organisation that wishes to project a smart, professional image, or whose clients would likely be put off by them, is entitled to ban or limit body modifications. Basically for many professional and other roles workers can choose whether they prefer having piercings and/or tattoos or a job. For an employer, if they employ people with body piercings and/or tattoos in a customer-facing role, it could have an impact on reputation and doesn't portray a good corporate image. That is the reality, and before anyone suggests that the employer's right to choose who he employs should be restricted by law, that would not only be unfair and impractical but (perhaps more importantly) unenforceable. Around the the world the law overwhelmingly does not protect tattooed or body pierced employees.In Japan, where tattoos and piercings are widely associated with organised crime, bans are almost universal. A US federal appeals court ruled in 2006 that ordering public employees to cover up their tattoos did not violate their First Amendment rights. The Metropolitan Police in London do not allow body piercings or visible tattoos on their members. The list continues. Body piercings and tattoos are seriously bad news for your career prospects in many areas - The only possible exception being if you're applying for a job in body piercing or as a tattoo artist !:)

    I'd respectfully disagree with you there. Tattoos can be covered by sleeves (for example, stick me in a suit and you'd be shocked at how covered I was if you didn't know me). You could make the argument that many companies take too bland a route when it comes to what they believe their customers would be offended or not by. I know myself (and I'd wager many, many others do the same) that the appearance of an employee is well, well down the pecking order in terms of the values I'd weigh when chosing to use one company over another. Generally the quality and value of the product or service and the manner in which you are treated are the most efficient yardsticks.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,644 ✭✭✭Asmodean


    In my particular field there are a number of people with whom I work with that have tattoos. We're all college graduates, extremely professional and good at what we do. Not ALL people judge on appearance, just the shallow individuals. Let someone's personality and work ethic determine how others view them before jumping to rash decisions.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 771 ✭✭✭Long Gone


    inisboffin wrote: »
    I don't particularly like gaudy long false nails on people but it's a fashion thing and I would hope it wouldn't stop me from hiring them (although it is far more likely to impede in a job than say a nose piercing).

    I'm a bit confused at the term 'professional' (although someone did further define it as 'traditional' profession). I think attitudes have greatly changed in Ireland with regard to tattoos and piercings, but we are still not as 'liberal' as a lot of Europe or some parts of the world.

    Tattoo used to mean sailor/military/biker or rough, but now it is as much a fashion statement as anything. I don't think it's black and white either. I've seen receptionists in classy hotels here with several ear piercings.

    My consultant doc has a fairly visible tattoo on his forearm, and his sleeves are not always down. My neighbour's Vet has tattoos, and my neighbour is a successful farmer and has those large gauge ear piercings. The cattle don't seem to mind.
    It's a bit silly when you bring gender into it with regard to ear piercing.

    It's one thing someone having HATE tattooed on a knuckle being refused a job at a hotel, but surely not the same thing for someone with a rose on their wrist or something. Why are people so afraid of tattoos and piercings? And it does not directly relate to dealing with the public or wage amounts. Plenty of people in IT, Actors, Musicians etc with tattoos and piercings.

    Exceptions don't prove the rule. All I am stating (and have explained in some detail the reasons why) is that in general getting body piercings or tattoos is usually not going to greatly enhance either your job prospects or your career - You can bemoan that fact all you like but in general that is the reality.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,681 ✭✭✭✭P_1


    Long Gone wrote: »
    Exceptions don't prove the rule. All I am stating (and have explained in some detail the reasons why) is that in general getting body piercings or tattoos is usually not going to greatly enhance either your job prospects or your career - You can bemoan that fact all you like but in general that is the reality.

    To be fair nobody is really bemoaning it, rather trying to change perceptions.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 771 ✭✭✭Long Gone


    Asmodean wrote: »
    In my particular field there are a number of people with whom I work with that have tattoos. We're all college graduates, extremely professional and good at what we do. Not ALL people judge on appearance, just the shallow individuals. Let someone's personality and work ethic determine how others view them before jumping to rash decisions.

    Fine - If you want to believe that, wonderful ! - Good luck to you. " Let someone's personality and work ethic determine how others view them before jumping to rash decisions " - What a great anthem ! - Meanwhile in the real world......:rolleyes:


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,644 ✭✭✭Asmodean


    Goddamn I wouldn't want you trying to hire me for a job with that attitude. Would you mind explaining to me what we should judge fellow human beings on so?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 771 ✭✭✭Long Gone


    P_1 wrote: »
    To be fair nobody is really bemoaning it, rather trying to change perceptions.

    Fair enough. I'm not campaigning, just pointing out the realities in the job market. People shouldn't delude themselves that body piercings and/or tattoos can't be very "career limiting".


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 771 ✭✭✭Long Gone


    Asmodean wrote: »
    Goddamn I wouldn't want you trying to hire me for a job with that attitude. Would you mind explaining to me what we should judge fellow human beings on so?

    What attitude ? - I have no attitude and no agenda whatsoever. I'm just pointing out, based on many years in an extremely successful and lucrative career, some realities as regards how people are judged in the real world. Please feel completely free to completely ignore what I am saying if you wish. - That will cause me no problem whatsoever.:)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,681 ✭✭✭✭P_1


    Long Gone wrote: »
    Fine - If you want to believe that, wonderful ! - Good luck to you. " Let someone's personality and work ethic determine how others view them before jumping to rash decisions " - What a great anthem ! - Meanwhile in the real world......:rolleyes:

    That is an awfully pessimistic and dismissive attitude to be having, sadly it is one that is all too common and a depressingly large number of people (particularly in Ireland) follow it blindly


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,644 ✭✭✭Asmodean


    Long Gone wrote: »
    What attitude ? I have no attitude. I'm just pointing out some realities.

    You could do that without being so sarcastic though in fairness. We're trying to have a discussion here, don't need the childish attitude.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22 ash182


    ....aaanyways, you dont have to let it close up. i had to take out my nose piercings for school so i bought clear ones from a site called crazyfactory and wore those everyday & no one noticed a thing :)


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,398 ✭✭✭inisboffin


    Long Gone wrote: »
    The Metropolitan Police in London do not allow body piercings or visible tattoos on their members.

    I'm fairly sure that rule applies to visible tattoos that may cause offence to a member of public (now that could be a wide list, but see my earlier post about a wide range. This article states it is often disputed too.

    To say 'this is the way it is' is quite limited. 20 years ago it was half again as difficult to get a job with a tattoo and piercing. Thankfully, attitudes have lightened in the retail sector, and other places. Obviously though, not with everyone. A face tattoo with a body implant of a unicorn horn is very different to a nose stud. Do people who frown on all these 'things' hate them all equally or is there a scale?

    And what's the issue with a guy wearing earrings. I know loads of blokes with earrings.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 771 ✭✭✭Long Gone


    Asmodean wrote: »
    You could do that without being so sarcastic though in fairness. We're trying to have a discussion here, don't need the childish attitude.

    I haven't been sarcastic. I don't believe that you have any basis whatsoever for accusing me of being sarcastic. I certainly haven't been childish, and, based on the rational content of my posts as compared to yours, for you to suggest that my contributions to the discussion are childish is frankly ludicrous.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 12,333 ✭✭✭✭JONJO THE MISER


    Long Gone wrote: »
    Fine - If you want to believe that, wonderful ! - Good luck to you. " Let someone's personality and work ethic determine how others view them before jumping to rash decisions " - What a great anthem ! - Meanwhile in the real world......:rolleyes:

    Its clear to me that you are not well traveled and not very open minded.
    I have worked all over the world and plenty of the workers and indeed management had piercings tats etc.
    Also if you were any good at management you would not let your personal bias impact your hiring decisions, i would advise you never to work in Management in Canada the U.S or Aus if this is your attitude.
    Perhaps some travelling would broaden your mind.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 12,333 ✭✭✭✭JONJO THE MISER


    P_1 wrote: »
    That is an awfully pessimistic and dismissive attitude to be having, sadly it is one that is all too common and a depressingly large number of people (particularly in Ireland) follow it blindly

    And then we wonder why we dont have much innovation in Ireland compared to other countries, some employers only want to hire drones.
    Some of the most successful companies in the world dont judge people on there looks or whether they have tats or piercings but rather there talents.
    Examples Google Apple etc etc


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,397 ✭✭✭✭ben.schlomo


    Long Gone wrote: »
    Fine - If you want to believe that, wonderful ! - Good luck to you. " Let someone's personality and work ethic determine how others view them before jumping to rash decisions " - What a great anthem ! - Meanwhile in the real world......:rolleyes:

    Your version of the 'real world' isnt necessarily most peoples. Oh and :rolleyes:


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,644 ✭✭✭Asmodean


    Long Gone wrote: »
    I haven't been sarcastic. I don't believe that you have any basis whatsoever for accusing me of being sarcastic. I certainly haven't been childish, and, based on the rational content of my posts as compared to yours, for you to suggest that my contributions to the discussion are childish is frankly ludicrous.
    You've been throwing an awful lot of sarcastic emoticons in fairness along the way which makes it look like you're not taking some of my points seriously. If you disagree with me that's fine but at least try and understand where the other side of the argument is coming from too. You insist that looks matter in your work environment but I am telling you that where I work appearance is the last thing people care about and it will not affect your career progression in the slightest, so I don't see why my argument should be dismissed so easily. Just as a side note, is it only visible tattoos and piercings you have a problem with?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 81,220 ✭✭✭✭biko


    Cool your jets everyone.


  • Posts: 24,714 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    I know of employers in Galway that insist on men being clean shaven (I think that's a bit too far also) never mind no visible tattoos or earring.

    If I were interviewing I would also be putting someone to the back of the queue who had stand out features like visible tattoos (ones that can be hidden during the working day are not an issue), any piercings other than earrings and hair died in daft colours like pink etc.

    I'm not a person who is too fond of the dress code that a lot of work places enforce when not necessary, I'm glad to be able to wear jeans and a t-sh1rt to work however I think professional work places should (and often do weather they admit it or not) draw the line at visible tattoos and facial piercings. If you are going to meetings, presenting at conferences, meeting clients etc etc it does not portray a good image of the person or company to have a person who's face is pierced or has visible tattoos.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 771 ✭✭✭Long Gone


    Asmodean wrote: »
    You've been throwing an awful lot of sarcastic emoticons in fairness along the way which makes it look like you're not taking some of my points seriously. If you disagree with me that's fine but at least try and understand where the other side of the argument is coming from too. You insist that looks matter in your work environment but I am telling you that where I work appearance is the last thing people care about and it will not affect your career progression in the slightest, so I don't see why my argument should be dismissed so easily. Just as a side note, is it only visible tattoos and piercings you have a problem with?

    Sarcastic emoticons ? - How on earth can an emoticon be sarcastic in itself ? - I only posted rolling eyes emoticons to signify that I regarding some of the points being made as ludicrous. I have no idea (nor do I care in the slightest) where or at what you work but I can assure you that your assertion that your appearance will "not affect your career progression in the slightest" is not borne out by the many studies on the subject that have been carried out - Or by common sense for that matter.....

    Contrary to what you suggest (and as I have already stated many times) I have no interest whatsoever in campaigning on this subject. As I have already stated (ad nauseum) I am merely pointing out that body piercings and tattoos are in general negatively perceived in the job market and within mainstream employment tend to be "career limiting". That is a fact. If you don't agree with it fine - But you are flying right in the face of career realism and conventional wisdom.

    Personally I really couldn't care less what people do to project their "individuality" (as they see it...). As far as I'm concerned the more body pierced, body altered, tattooed, pink haired, mohican sporting etc etc f***wits there are out there in the job market the more jobs will be available for people with some sense ! :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,644 ✭✭✭Asmodean


    Long Gone wrote: »
    As far as I'm concerned the more body pierced, body altered, tattooed, pink haired, mohican sporting etc etc f***wits there are out there in the job market the more jobs will be available for people with some sense ! :)
    You were doing so well until that last paragraph too. There's no need to resort to name calling. We'll just have to agree to disagree I guess.


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    People that completed schools like Yeats, how did you find college? I've always been against the idea of supervised and forced study, the likes of which you'd get there. Sure you might get higher points, but I always wonder whether people that were used to that structure of study struggle with the hands off approach of college.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,711 ✭✭✭Redhairedguy


    Long Gone wrote: »
    Personally I really couldn't care less what people do to project their "individuality" (as they see it...). As far as I'm concerned the more body pierced, body altered, tattooed, pink haired, mohican sporting etc etc f***wits there are out there in the job market the more jobs will be available for people with some sense ! :)

    Long Gone. This is a very disrespectful comment. I would ask that you please refrain from posting on this thread again, unless you can express yourself in a calm, rational and considerate way.

    This thread is veering very much off topic. It is no longer pertinent to just Galway City, so please keep it local.


    Anyway, the bleedin' stench of high horses in this thread is making me itch.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 12,333 ✭✭✭✭JONJO THE MISER


    Long Gone wrote: »
    I am merely pointing out that body piercings and tattoos are in general negatively perceived in the job market and within mainstream employment tend to be "career limiting". That is a fact. If you don't agree with it fine - But you are flying right in the face of career realism and conventional wisdom.

    No it is not a fact, many of the worlds major companies would not have a problem with them, as i said google, apple, faebook etc
    Of course you would never get a job with them as they tend not to hire narrow minded ignorant people who judge people on there looks not there skills.


  • Posts: 24,714 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    No it is not a fact, many of the worlds major companies would not have a problem with them, as i said google, apple, faebook etc

    I bet it varies even with these companies, staff just working in an office programming away etc it may not matter but when its comes promotion time and people are going to be representing the company at meetings, conferences etc then I bet they are more choosy.

    I've been to many conferences where google have presented and not one person had a piercing or tattoo on show.

    Also there are many many of the worlds major companies who you can be sure do not allow it. Any big financial institutions wont allow it for instance, you wont see any accountants or bank workers having visible tattoos or piercings etc.

    This is why I can see a school enforcing these policies its to get people ready for the real world and hopefully discourage people from getting tattoos and silly facial piercing and aiming for a more professional look which will stand to them in life.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 31,218 ✭✭✭✭freshpopcorn


    Here's a link from the journal.
    http://www.thejournal.ie/excessive-tattoos-workplace-1462285-May2014/

    I do think people with a nose ring would face trouble seeking work. Tattoos are fine as long as there not on some bodies face, neck, hands, etc. men generally can get away with tattoos more because they can cover them up. I also think it depends on what the tattoo is of would have an effect you getting a job or having your contract renewed if you turned up at work with a tattoo. I like tattoos by the way. Think they suit men more than women.(that's my opinion)
    I worked in a hotel men had to be clean shaven, no visible tattoos and they were very strict about piercings. People did look more professional than if people were walking around with tattoos and piercings.
    To be honest op its depends on what you wish to study and college and career path you wish to follow.


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