Mayweather - next fight

Panic E

Mayweiner's camp were in talks with Marquez the last time I checked on my sources

megadodge wrote: »

I got the impression on 'Ringside' tonight that Tyson Fury is next up for Vladimir. They had a phone interview with him and Vlad more or less confirmed it.
Anyone else hear any news on it?

Yeah that's definitely in the pipeline sometime, there's a few bits about it on his twitter

magma69

Talib Fiasco wrote: »

Mayweather saying Berto could be his next opponent and he would like to fight him. Oh Floyd never ever change :rolleyes:

He won't fight Berto. And let's not pretend Floyd fighting guys like Berto is the norm. He consistently fights against top 10 contenders, usually top 5, almost always coming into the ring much heavier.

Remember when there was talk of Paul Spadafora, these guys never end up getting shots.

I predict he'll fight Khan or Thurman, which are both good fights. Thurman is the better fight imo.

Talib Fiasco

magma69 wrote: »

He won't fight Berto. And let's not pretend Floyd fighting guys like Berto is the norm. He consistently fights against top 10 contenders, usually top 5, almost always coming into the ring much heavier.

Remember when there was talk of Paul Spadafora, these guys never end up getting shots.

I predict he'll fight Khan or Thurman, which are both good fights. Thurman is the better fight imo.

Khan was eating McDonald's the last week and was chilling at his family home for Rammadan so I'm pretty sure he's out of the running. I'd be happy enough with a Thurman fight I guess.

magma69

Talib Fiasco wrote: »

Khan was eating McDonald's the last week and was chilling at his family home for Rammadan so I'm pretty sure he's out of the running. I'd be happy enough with a Thurman fight I guess.

I'd love to see Thurman knock him out. Thurman's a pretty cool guy and he's got a very pleasing style. He deserves a big fight at this stage. Khan won't go near him and doubt Hearn will match Brook with him either. He's definitely getting avoided at this rate, though his next fight against Collazo is still bull****. Much better fights that could be made for him but Haymon is being a shíthouse. :mad:

Talib Fiasco

magma69 wrote: »

I'd love to see Thurman knock him out. Thurman's a pretty cool guy and he's got a very pleasing style. He deserves a big fight at this stage. Khan won't go near him and doubt Hearn will match Brook with him either. He's definitely getting avoided at this rate, though his next fight against Collazo is still bull****. Much better fights that could be made for him but Haymon is being a shíthouse. :mad:

I would too but I still think he's too raw and naive for Floyd not to pick him off after a few rounds. Lara still would be my dream pick to fight Floyd considering the options out there.

Frank Bullitt

Golovkin or Khan I reckon.

boxer.fan

Gintonious wrote: »

Golovkin or Khan I reckon.

I'd say there is zero chance of him taking on GGG. Why would he? Mayweather has a heap of mediocre welters / light-welters to conclude his career on. The Cash is in the bank, business done, All that is left is legacy.

Talib Fiasco

Golovkin isn't even a big draw anyway. Sure he has his money made but he'll always want more and need more. Chances are he goes broke within five years anyway.

akelly02

I disagree, i think GGG would be huge, that power he has would make for an exciting contest

Talib Fiasco

akelly02 wrote: »

I disagree, i think GGG would be huge, that power he has would make for an exciting contest

Not enough people know about him...and therefore he won't help sell the fight in comparison to a rematch with Cotto/Canelo or Khan/Thurman etc.

boxer.fan

Talib Fiasco wrote: »

Not enough people know about him...and therefore he won't help sell the fight in comparison to a rematch with Cotto/Canelo or Khan/Thurman etc.

Cotto & Canelo are popular, however there isn't a whole pile of public interest in a rematch. Thurman is only well known in America while Khan has lost much of his support imo. Golovkin is the Daddy. If Money really wanted to put his stamp on this boxing era, a fight with GGG would remove any doubt.

Talib Fiasco

boxer.fan wrote: »

Cotto & Canelo are popular, however there isn't a whole pile of public interest in a rematch. Thurman is only well known in America while Khan has lost much of his support imo. Golovkin is the Daddy. If Money really wanted to put his stamp on this boxing era, a fight with GGG would remove any doubt.

There would be at 160 where Cotto has looked good and where Canelo isn't raw and drained like he was a year ago. Plus their names alone would break 1 million buys. Golovkin is by no means "the daddy", he has fought nobody above a B- fighter (if even that) and hasn't earned a fight with Mayweather at all...

walshb

Talib Fiasco wrote: »

There would be at 160 where Cotto has looked good and where Canelo isn't raw and drained like he was a year ago. Plus their names alone would break 1 million buys. Golovkin is by no means "the daddy", he has fought nobody above a B- fighter (if even that) and hasn't earned a fight with Mayweather at all...

Mayweather doesn't operate solely on who has earned their right. He has fought several recently who you could apply this too. GGG is a MW. He is too dangerous for Floyd. Floyd not fighting him has 0 to do with GGGs right to get the fight.

It is being reported that Floyd mentioned Berto and some other fighter, a nobody.

Underground

There's just no way he was serious when he said his next fight would be against either Berto or Karim Mayfield. He's probably well aware of the stick he gets for his choice of opponent and is just playing up to that to get a reaction. If he actually was serious, well I don't even know what to say tbh.

walshb

Underground wrote: »

There's just no way he was serious when he said his next fight would be against either Berto or Karim Mayfield. He's probably well aware of the stick he gets for his choice of opponent and is just playing up to that to get a reaction. If he actually was serious, well I don't even know what to say tbh.

Probably not serious, but who is a credible opponent at WW?

When you go through the list he has very little options.

It should be the best at WW, which right now is probably Thurman. But he has a fight scheduled soon, so September is likely out for him.

prettyboy81

So much for his statement that he would be relinquishing all his World Title belts!

Underground

walshb wrote: »

Probably not serious, but who is a credible opponent at WW?

When you go through the list he has very little options.

It should be the best at WW, which right now is probably Thurman. But he has a fight scheduled soon, so September is likely out for him.

Yeah his options are few and far between and in an ideal world he would face Thurman, which in itself isn't a great fight anyway. I would have thought Danny Garcia would be a likely opponent but he's fighting Paulie soon. I wouldn't be surprised if he opts for Porter.

Frank Bullitt

He doesn't seem to have any more interest in Khan anymore, well his name has fallen off the radar at least.

I would love to see GGG go at him, but as mentioned he is very dangerous for Mayweather at this point. There is definitely no guarantee that he will pick a top fighter, he could well (and probably will) go with an easy enough fight.

Talib Fiasco

I think it could be Chaves or Sadam Ali tbh. Berto wouldn't shock me as he is interim WBA champ and was "the" thing not too long ago. Mayfield has to be a p*ss take.

Pighead

Talib Fiasco wrote: »

I think it could be Chaves or Sadam Ali tbh. Berto wouldn't shock me as he is interim WBA champ and was "the" thing not too long ago. Mayfield has to be a p*ss take.

Speaking of p1ss takes these De La Hoya return rumours can't be for real can they? Apparently he said it's 50/50 as to whether he makes a comeback and if he does he will fight either Floyd or GGG. Bizarre.

Talib Fiasco

Pighead wrote: »

Speaking of p1ss takes these De La Hoya return rumours can't be for real can they? Apparently he said it's 50/50 as to whether he makes a comeback and if he does he will fight either Floyd or GGG. Bizarre.

I think Oscar may be after relapsing tbh.

Johner

http://www.theguardian.com/sport/2015/jun/23/oscar-de-la-hoya-comeback-42-new-32

Sad to read, hopefully nothing comes of it.

walshb

When you look back at WW Floyd's showtime-deal opponents (and some others) it's pretty average. Two blown up FWs in Manny and JMM, a boiled down Canelo, and a shopworn Cotto. Throw in a crude Maidana x 2, and The ghost, Guerrero!

boxer.fan

walshb wrote: »

When you look back at WW Floyd's showtime-deal opponents (and some others) it's pretty average. Two blown up FWs in Manny and JMM, a boiled down Canelo, and a shopworn Cotto. Throw in a crude Maidana x 2, and The ghost, Guerrero!

I know the question has been asked & answered a million times but which six WW's could he have faced?

Khan - damaged goods since losing to Garcia & Peterson
Thurman - Only really making a name for himself now
Garcia - Possible, but I only see an easy win for Floyd
Bradley - A tough durable scrappy opponent
Peterson - Not in the same league
Brook - A decent opponent but only getting established now
Matthysse - Could he clip Floyd? I don't think so

Chrissybhoy

Pighead wrote: »

Speaking of p1ss takes these De La Hoya return rumours can't be for real can they? Apparently he said it's 50/50 as to whether he makes a comeback and if he does he will fight either Floyd or GGG. Bizarre.

Mayweather would take the fight in a heartbeat. The fight would sell big and it would be an easy night for Mayweather I think everyone would agree

walshb

boxer.fan wrote: »

I know the question has been asked & answered a million times but which six WW's could he have faced?

Khan - damaged goods since losing to Garcia & Peterson
Thurman - Only really making a name for himself now
Garcia - Possible, but I only see an easy win for Floyd
Bradley - A tough durable scrappy opponent
Peterson - Not in the same league
Brook - A decent opponent but only getting established now
Matthysse - Could he clip Floyd? I don't think so

I sort of agree. There's not much at WW that really stands out.

He should be meeting the best, and right now that is likely Thurman.

Khan is not the best, but he does offer a bad style for Floyd. I wouldn't think Floyd would like that fight.

Name wise Khan is the biggest at this time. Thurman or Khan should be at the top of the list!

Chrissybhoy

walshb wrote: »

I sort of agree. There's not much at WW that really stands out.

He should be meeting the best, and right now that is likely Thurman.

Khan is not the best, but he does offer a bad style for Floyd. I wouldn't think Floyd would like that fight.

Name wise Khan is the biggest at this time. Thurman or Khan should be at the top of the list!

I think Brook should be up there aswell

boxer.fan

Chrissybhoy wrote: »

I think Brook should be up there aswell

Brook is getting close, but he still has some beating to do. A close win over Porter & Alexander Just isn't enough yet. IMO he remains a bit of an unknown quantity.

Talib Fiasco

boxer.fan wrote: »

Brook is getting close, but he still has some beating to do. A close win over Porter & Alexander Just isn't enough yet. IMO he remains a bit of an unknown quantity.

If he actually fought Alexander it would help too

Talib Fiasco

Manny and Cotto are shoe in's for HOF. And If Canelo keeps it up he could go down in the similar vain as Oscar if there are quality fighters for him to fight.

walshb

pac_man wrote: »

Marquez fought on HBO but even still,talk about nitpicking. Maidana and Guerrero I agree were kinda soft touches but the other three are potential hall of fame fighters. Even if you don't like Mayweather(which is blatantly obvious), you have to give credit were credit is due.

Nothing to do with liking him. I also made the point about JMM not being the showtime deal. Floyd's last 5-6 fights have been against nothing great IMO. He can only face what is out there. I get this. JMM and Manny are blown up FWs. I always thought this. Canelo is his best win, but again, that was not a 154 lb Canelo. Guerrero and Miadana were indeed soft touches, even though Maidana did extremely well in fight 1.

I have no issue with HOF fighters, but when two of them are a weight class or two below you it kind of dilutes that argument. Same way Ali beating Bob Foster is not some huge win or some mark of Ali's greatness.

Overall Cotto was probably his sternest opponent at 154 bs, even if Cotto was shopworn. And he was. Two pretty brutal beat downs by Margarito and Manny before Floyd got to him.

Chrissybhoy

boxer.fan wrote: »

Brook is getting close, but he still has some beating to do. A close win over Porter & Alexander Just isn't enough yet. IMO he remains a bit of an unknown quantity.

Alexander fight was called off. I think his performances have been good enough plus he's unbeaten and has the other WW belt I think it's fair that his name be up with whoever tops the list

Chrissybhoy

walshb wrote: »

Nothing to do with liking him. I also made the point about JMM not being the showtime deal. Floyd's last 5-6 fights have been against nothing great IMO. He can only face what is out there. I get this. JMM and Manny are blown up FWs. I always thought this. Canelo is his best win, but again, that was not a 154 lb Canelo. Guerrero and Miadana were indeed soft touches, even though Maidana did extremely well in fight 1.

I have no issue with HOF fighters, but when two of them are a weight class or two below you it kind of dilutes that argument. Same way Ali beating Bob Foster is not some huge win or some mark of Ali's greatness.

Overall Cotto was probably his sternest opponent at 154 bs, even if Cotto was shopworn. And he was. Two pretty brutal beat downs by Margarito and Manny before Floyd got to him.

The same blown up FW did serious damage to Cotto De La Hoya margarito Hatton and more so your arguement that manny is a less fighter at WW doesn't rub with me

SHOVELLER

Talib Fiasco wrote: »

Not enough people know about him...and therefore he won't help sell the fight in comparison to a rematch with Cotto/Canelo or Khan/Thurman etc.

No chance.

GGG is a big name in the US and will sell very well. Personable, clean cut and exciting sells tickets. He has also cross over appeal into the celebrity circuit and while he may not have beaten any huge names his time will come.

Dont bet against him coming down to fight Mayweather if the money is right.

walshb

Chrissybhoy wrote: »

The same blown up FW did serious damage to Cotto De La Hoya margarito Hatton and more so your arguement that manny is a less fighter at WW doesn't rub with me

Yes, you stand with Manny and offer him no real movement and he will beat up on you. JMM showed us Manny's limitations. They were further "exposed" by a naturally bigger Floyd, even though for me Floyd was far far from convincing in that fight.

Chrissybhoy

walshb wrote: »

Yes, you stand with Manny and offer him no real movement and he will beat up on you. JMM showed us Manny's limitations. They were further "exposed" by a naturally bigger Floyd, even though for me Floyd was far far from convincing in that fight.

Floyd did expose him but I would put that down to movement skill and his gameplan. I don't think WW should be brought into it. It's not like it was mannys first fight at the weight or anything

walshb

Chrissybhoy wrote: »

Floyd did expose him but I would put that down to movement skill and his gameplan. I don't think WW should be brought into it. It's not like it was mannys first fight at the weight or anything

I brought it in because WW is more natural to Floyd. He is naturally a weight or two bigger than Manny. Manny having fights at the weight doesn't change that fact! Same for JMM and Floyd. A weight or two between them.

Talib Fiasco

SHOVELLER wrote: »

No chance.

GGG is a big name in the US and will sell very well. Personable, clean cut and exciting sells tickets. He has also cross over appeal into the celebrity circuit and while he may not have beaten any huge names his time will come.

Dont bet against him coming down to fight Mayweather if the money is right.

Yeah but he's not a big name yet. He has some hype behind him but he's still not a big name, certainly not in the magnitude to get a Mayweather fight. Mayweather has even said this...that's why he won't get the fight.

Of course he would, he'd go down to 147 if he could, such is he so desperate for big fights. Still doesn't mean jack. Thurman has a bigger following as does Khan. And Cotto and Canelo are miles ahead of Golovkin in terms of drawing fans and wide appeal and recognition.

Chrissybhoy

walshb wrote: »

I brought it in because WW is more natural to Floyd. He is naturally a weight or two bigger than Manny. Manny having fights at the weight doesn't change that fact! Same for JMM and Floyd. A weight or two between them.

Yeah but most fighters manny fought at WW were naturally bigger than him and he didn't have any trouble with them

Panic E

All signs are on it that it is going to be Berto (Mayfeathers opponent)

Great huh? Another fight that nobody wants to see, typical nonsense.

DylanAFC

What did berto do to deserve his number 1 ranking with the WBA? Disgrace.

Talib Fiasco

Yep Berto on CBS, Sept. 12 is the report. Should be confirmed before the weekend you feel.

Johner

Yawn.

Pac1Man

Kahn is being noisy again saying Mayweather is not good for boxing. He seems obsessed with him. His career will be remembered for chasing him around the world. Pathetic.

Frank Bullitt

Keeping it safe then.

Underground

Wow, I felt sure that when he mentioned Mayfield and Berto as potential opponents that he was winding us up. Whatever about cherry picking his previous fights, this would be the mother of all cherry picks if it goes through. Absolutely ridiculous.

Danny dyers double

If it wasn't Kahn or even Brook I personally won't be interested .

I would of loved to see would Kahns speed of troubled him but sure we will never know

Arrow in the Knee

Just shows how fcuked up boxing is when boxers can 'hand pick' fights.

walshb

Arrow in the Knee wrote: »

Just shows how fcuked up boxing is when boxers can 'hand pick' fights.

I think Floyd may have just earned that right!

Arrow in the Knee

walshb wrote: »

I think Floyd may have just earned that right!

He may have but his final fight will feel like a Testimonial and he picks and chooses who he fights.

If boxing had less organizations/belts at the same weight class it would be more attractive for the casual fan but that's for another thread.

cowzerp

This won't be his last fight. he will want to beat Marciano's 49-0, guaranteed this will be just a fight were he can "retire" after a beast performance were everybody wants yo see him again so he will come back for 1 last big ppv for the fans!

Berto may be ideal to have a good entertaining fight and set up the big 50-0 fight probably with Manny or Khan