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***2015 LC Physics - June 15th***

  • 15-06-2015 11:54am
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 213 ✭✭


    Lovely paper. Section A was very nice as was Section B. Managed to do an extra question aswell. Hopefully that is an A in the bag


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,386 ✭✭✭Troxck


    That went terribly for me. I did worse than I did in the mocks, I really wanted a high B or even an A but after that, a C is more likely (if even that).

    A change of the CAO is in order now :(


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 49 Jammysticks


    Tin-whistle length was .579 divided by 2, wasn't it?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14 2345


    Tin-whistle length was .579 divided by 2, wasn't it?

    Yep 28.5 cm


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 66 ✭✭Chickennuggets


    Section a was easy , section b was terrible , was hoping for an A1 . A bit more like a low B or a high C now


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 49 Jammysticks


    SI unit of temperature is Kelvin, not degrees C?

    And frequency of string is increased by 1.5 times when tension changes from 36N to 81N?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14 2345


    SI unit of temperature is Kelvin, not degrees C?

    And frequency of string is increased by 1.5 times when tension changes from 36N to 81N?

    yeah thats what i got.
    What about why a pipe at open at only one end has half the harmonics?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 367 ✭✭qweerty


    In case anyone's interested: news report.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40 Benm123


    Hopefully I'm not the only one that the polystyrene cup threw! I included it in the equation with SHC 1, no idea why, was sure they had an error in paper with not giving it's shc! Silly me, do you think I'll lose many marks for it? Like I didn't include it in the assumption and then had the error in the calculations, everything went grand I'm sect A but I'm worried that'll take me down a good chunk!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3 anera


    how did it go for everyone??


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 49 Jammysticks


    2345 wrote: »
    yeah thats what i got.
    What about why a pipe at open at only one end has half the harmonics?

    Just draw the diagrams for the first and second harmonics of open and closed pipes, which show that closed pipes produce odd harmonics while open pipes produce all harmonics.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15 Barry1000


    WE NEED A UV LIGHT #physicsbanter


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 213 ✭✭The_N4sir


    Benm123 wrote: »
    Hopefully I'm not the only one that the polystyrene cup threw! I included it in the equation with SHC 1, no idea why, was sure they had an error in paper with not giving it's shc! Silly me, do you think I'll lose many marks for it? Like I didn't include it in the assumption and then had the error in the calculations, everything went grand I'm sect A but I'm worried that'll take me down a good chunk!

    It threw me off aswell but I assumed no heat was transferred to the cup from the water since there was no SHC given. I got close to the value of SLHV so should be okay hopefully

    Guys you all probably did better than you think aswell


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 49 Jammysticks


    In the experiments question 4, what was the circuit diagram that had to be drawn?

    And are 2 other leptons the Tau and the Muon? neutrino is subject to the strong n. force?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 251 ✭✭OMGeary


    Didn't like the paper, was very different


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14 2345


    In the experiments question 4, what was the circuit diagram that had to be drawn?

    And are 2 other leptons the Tau and the Muon? neutrino is subject to the strong n. force?

    yep tau and muon that was in the tables


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11 AMDD


    In the experiments question 4, what was the circuit diagram that had to be drawn?

    And are 2 other leptons the Tau and the Muon? neutrino is subject to the strong n. force?

    Pretty sure there's a page in the table that gives examples of Leptons. Tau and the muon are included in this list.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1 3w4


    What did people get for the velocity of an electron and what was the minimum wavelength of the x-ray?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16 blue_velvet


    3w4 wrote: »
    What did people get for the velocity of an electron and what was the minimum wavelength of the x-ray?

    for velocity I got one point something ×10^8 by using formula QV=1/2mv^2 . And for wavelength I think it was something ×10^-11 and I used hf=1/2mv^2 to get f and then subbed f into c=f×wavelength to get wavelength


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12 SteveZissou


    For the particle physics, did anyone get an energy value of around 0.87MeV?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 66 ✭✭Chickennuggets


    For the particle physics, did anyone get an energy value of around 0.87MeV?

    I got .79Mev

    What did people. Get for the latent heat of vaporisation in q 2 ?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14 2345


    anyone get 2x10^7 m for radius in Q6
    What did people. Get for the latent heat of vaporisation in q 2 ?

    it is meant to be 2.3x10^6 from book


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 66 ✭✭Chickennuggets


    For Q1 Boyle law what was the pressure at 250 cm ? I got something like 105 kpa


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 130 ✭✭Fiona G


    very sly mixing in electromagnetism with particle physics...
    For Q1 Boyle law what was the pressure at 250 cm ? I got something like 105 kpa


    I think I got 106 kPa, same ball park


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26 Chocolalla


    For heat question what's the equation and sub ins ?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11 AMDD


    Chocolalla wrote: »
    For heat question what's the equation and sub ins ?

    Heat Lost = Heat Gained
    MC(change in temp) steam + ML for steam = MC(change in temp) water + MC(change in temp)cup
    I neglected the cup as I said c for it is =0.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26 Chocolalla


    AMDD wrote: »
    Heat Lost = Heat Gained
    MC(change in temp) steam + ML for steam = MC(change in temp) water + MC(change in temp)cupt
    I neglected the cup as I said c for it is =0.

    Ok I got the equation but I was contemplating what to write for capacity of polystyrene cup


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11 AMDD


    Chocolalla wrote: »
    Ok I got the equation but I was contemplating what to write for capacity of polystyrene cup

    I'm almost sure you'll get the marks if you state in the assumptions that the student assumed the specific heat capacity was x.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 66 ✭✭Chickennuggets


    What was the answer for q5 (a)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11 AMDD


    What was the answer for q5 (a)

    I did 41cos30 x 3


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40 Benm123


    I got .79Mev

    I also got an answer like that but then went back and realised I forgot to sqaure the speed of light! I them re did it and squared the speed of like and got 511MeV which seemed like a much nicer answer


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26 Chocolalla


    Anyone do question eleven?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11 AMDD


    Chocolalla wrote: »
    Anyone do question eleven?

    Yep


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26 Chocolalla


    AMDD wrote: »
    Yep

    Lol Answers pls


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16 blue_velvet


    Chocolalla wrote: »
    Anyone do question eleven?

    I did! How did you define the Tesla?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11 AMDD


    Chocolalla wrote: »
    Lol Answers pls

    (a) Tesla I wasn't too sure. I just used the formula saying it's the ratio of the work function to the area.
    (b) A.C I believe is a sin wave and D.C I believe is the same except you don't include beneath 0.
    (c) Electromagnetic induction I said is when an EMF is induced due to the change in magnetic field linking a circuit.
    (d) I believe this is to do with inducing an EMF which D.C wouldn't do. Wasn't too sure on this.
    (e) I said with low voltage this means there's a smaller current according to Ohm's Law which means there is less charge per second.
    (f) Subbed into formula
    (g) Just said A.C is constantly changing so you need an RMS value to compare.
    (h) Advantage: Environmentally friendly
    Disadvantage: Expensive

    Looking back, I actually think I answered this question pretty badly, haha, at least it was an extra question.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26 Chocolalla


    AMDD wrote: »
    (a) Tesla I wasn't too sure. I just used the formula saying it's the ratio of the work function to the area.
    (b) A.C I believe is a sin wave and D.C I believe is the same except you don't include beneath 0.
    (c) Electromagnetic induction I said is when an EMF is induced due to the change in magnetic field linking a circuit.
    (d) I believe this is to do with inducing an EMF which D.C wouldn't do. Wasn't too sure on this.
    (e) I said with low voltage this means there's a smaller current according to Ohm's Law which means there is less charge per second.
    (f) Subbed into formula
    (g) Just said A.C is constantly changing so you need an RMS value to compare.
    (h) Advantage: Environmentally friendly
    Disadvantage: Expensive

    Looking back, I actually think I answered this question pretty badly, haha, at least it was an extra question.
    No I think your answers are good , for tealsa since it said magnetic flux I just gave the def I don't think I'm right thou


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26 Chocolalla


    I did! How did you define the Tesla?

    I just gave the def for magnetic flux, u?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16 blue_velvet


    AMDD wrote: »
    (a) Tesla I wasn't too sure. I just used the formula saying it's the ratio of the work function to the area.
    (b) A.C I believe is a sin wave and D.C I believe is the same except you don't include beneath 0.
    (c) Electromagnetic induction I said is when an EMF is induced due to the change in magnetic field linking a circuit.
    (d) I believe this is to do with inducing an EMF which D.C wouldn't do. Wasn't too sure on this.
    (e) I said with low voltage this means there's a smaller current according to Ohm's Law which means there is less charge per second.
    (f) Subbed into formula
    (g) Just said A.C is constantly changing so you need an RMS value to compare.
    (h) Advantage: Environmentally friendly
    Disadvantage: Expensive

    Looking back, I actually think I answered this question pretty badly, haha, at least it was an extra question.
    for (e) I said low voltage means larger current which leads to greater power loss and then I explained with reference to Joule's Law P=I^2R and P=VI


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11 AMDD


    Chocolalla wrote: »
    No I think your answers are good , for tealsa since it said magnetic flux I just gave the def I don't think I'm right thou

    I think I may have snuck in the definition for that also since I just decided to write all that I knew, don't think they will mark me down for having extra, even if it isn't right.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11 AMDD


    for (e) I said low voltage means larger current which leads to greater power loss and then I explained with reference to Joule's Law P=I^2R and P=VI

    Hmm, that sounds better, I thought I should have fit in Joule's Law in there somewhere.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12 SteveZissou


    I got .79Mev

    Actually I think I got that as well, couldn't remember! Thanks:)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16 blue_velvet


    AMDD wrote: »
    Hmm, that sounds better, I thought I should have fit in Joule's Law in there somewhere.

    I was unsure as to whether to make reference to the written text above in some of my answers or not??


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11 AMDD


    I was unsure as to whether to make reference to the written text above in some of my answers or not??

    Oh ****, I just realised that I didn't even look at that, that's so dodge haha.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 66 ✭✭Chickennuggets


    Benm123 wrote: »
    I also got an answer like that but then went back and realised I forgot to sqaure the speed of light! I them re did it and squared the speed of like and got 511MeV which seemed like a much nicer answer

    Im 90% I squared the speed


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16 blue_velvet


    Chocolalla wrote: »
    I just gave the def for magnetic flux, u?

    Is Tesla not the unit for magnetic flux density? I said magnetic flux÷Area=magnetic flux density and then drew a diagram showing area and magnetic field lines..I think I said something about the magnetic flux density being the number of magnetic field lines falling perpendicularly??


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40 Benm123


    Im 90% I squared the speed

    Hmm.. This is confusing me.
    I did
    E=Mc^2
    Taking m as mass of electron
    And c as speed of light
    Then put my value for over eV.

    I got 510.99 MeV then which rounded to a nice 511, which seemed like a more suitable answer than them asking for mega electron volts and then having a 0.something answer.
    But I'm doubting myself now that others have said they also got 0.something MeV

    Also, coming out of the exam my friend who usually gets A1's said he got 0.something but then I asked did he square the speed of light and he said ohhhh **** no he didn't.
    What did anyone else get?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16 blue_velvet


    For the resistance of a metallic conductor experiement what did people say was the rate of change of resistance?was it just the slope?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11 AMDD


    For the resistance of a metallic conductor experiement what did people say was the rate of change of resistance?was it just the slope?

    Didn't do it but pretty sure that's right.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15 uzpuz


    I put in 4180 for specific heat capacity for polystyrene but I knew it was wrong.
    However I ended up getting 2.3 by 10 to power 6 which is the latent heat of vaporisation as stated in previous marking schemes


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26 Chocolalla


    Is Tesla not the unit for magnetic flux density? I said magnetic flux÷Area=magnetic flux density and then drew a diagram showing area and magnetic field lines..I think I said something about the magnetic flux density being the number of magnetic field lines falling perpendicularly??

    I just thought of the magnetic flux def which is magnetic flux density by area i think will get attempt marks hopefully :D
    uzpuz wrote: »
    I put in 4180 for specific heat capacity for polystyrene but I knew it was wrong.
    However I ended up getting 2.3 by 10 to power 6 which is the latent heat of vaporisation as stated in previous marking schemes

    I think I did that as well


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