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First human head transplant in 2017

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    #32
    bnt
    Registered Users Posts: 12,962 ✭✭✭✭bnt


    I wish folks would stop calling it a head transplant. It'll be a body transplant, since they're keeping the head and discarding the original body.

    From out there on the moon, international politics look so petty. You want to grab a politician by the scruff of the neck and drag him a quarter of a million miles out and say, ‘Look at that, you son of a bitch’.

    — Edgar Mitchell, Apollo 14 Astronaut



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    #33
    catallus
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,106 ✭✭✭catallus


    bnt wrote: »
    I wish folks would stop calling it a head transplant. It'll be a body transplant, since they're keeping the head and discarding the original body.

    You're not considering the donor's point of view, are you?


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    #34
    bnt
    Registered Users Posts: 12,962 ✭✭✭✭bnt


    catallus wrote: »
    You're not considering the donor's point of view, are you?
    No, and neither will the donor, since he will be dead! He will be as involved in the process as any other organ donor: ante-mortem only.

    If you get a new kidney, you don't talk about a body transplant, since it's the kidney that's being transplanted, not the body.

    Now replace "kidney" and "body" in that last sentence with "body" and "head" respectively. :cool:

    From out there on the moon, international politics look so petty. You want to grab a politician by the scruff of the neck and drag him a quarter of a million miles out and say, ‘Look at that, you son of a bitch’.

    — Edgar Mitchell, Apollo 14 Astronaut



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    #35
    Bongalongherb
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,766 ✭✭✭Bongalongherb


    What puzzles me about all of this physical matter thing is that when you look deep down close into 'matter' and you look at the atoms/protons/electrons and neutrons and it gets to a case where matter falls apart and electrons vanish and appear in odd ways, can we really say that there is no other existence out there ? most folk look at the physical so-called solid body, but it's not solid when you break it down to the basics as said above. Do we really know ?.

    I'll take my chances in the next life because I'm sure a lot of folk after spending so long on this planet will just want to forget it all and leave it behind. A life of work for painted printed paper.


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    #36
    Bongalongherb
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,766 ✭✭✭Bongalongherb


    bnt wrote: »
    I wish folks would stop calling it a head transplant. It'll be a body transplant, since they're keeping the head and discarding the original body.

    Yep I agree, there's a few head-a-balls here for sure, including me. The glass is either half full or half empty.


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    #37
    Junkyard Tom
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    catallus wrote: »
    You're not considering the donor's point of view, are you?

    Precisely. If someone wanted to use my body I think I'd be looking for some sort of agreement that I would get to use it every so often instead of the new head.


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    #38
    catallus
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,106 ✭✭✭catallus


    bnt wrote: »
    Now replace "kidney" and "body" in that last sentence with "body" and "head" respectively. :cool:

    If I wanted puzzles I'd be in the puzzle forum! :mad:

    Junkyard Tom wrote: »
    Precisely. If someone wanted to use my body I think I'd be looking for some sort of agreement that I would get to use it every so often instead of the new head.

    Well naturally, but think of all of the rights issues that would come up. It would like be literally opening a tin of worms. And then trying to put the worms back in.


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    #39
    Leif Johnson
    Registered Users Posts: 180 ✭✭Leif Johnson


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    #40
    Merl1n
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    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2057312382


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    #41
    Bongalongherb
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    That flick "The 6th Day" Arnold Schwarzenegger, when they die their full memory's are implanted into a clone of their body. That would be cool... A whole new meaning of... I'll be back.


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    #42
    Junkyard Tom
    Registered Users Posts: 10,117 ✭✭✭✭Junkyard Tom


    bnt wrote: »
    No, and neither will the donor, since he will be dead! He will be as involved in the process as any other organ donor: ante-mortem only.

    But if my body was being controlled by a new head my body would know that the head was not mine so it would probably try to take control.


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    #43
    Leif Johnson
    Registered Users Posts: 180 ✭✭Leif Johnson


    你妈的接口即可加快看咯快来快来快来看偶看了看


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    #44
    Bongalongherb
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,766 ✭✭✭Bongalongherb


    Leif Johnson wrote: »
    你妈的接口即可加快看咯快来快来快来看偶看了看

    HUH ? translation...
    Your mother 's interface can accelerate slightly Come Come Come see even looked at


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    #45
    suicide_circus
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    if i'm not me, then who the hell am i?


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    #46
    Bongalongherb
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    Junkyard Tom wrote: »
    But if my body was being controlled by a new head my body would know that the head was not mine so it would probably try to take control.

    Nope. Your body would comply to the neuron sparks telling it what to do.


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    #47
    Junkyard Tom
    Registered Users Posts: 10,117 ✭✭✭✭Junkyard Tom


    Bongalongherb wrote: »
    Nope. Your body would comply to the neuron sparks telling it what to do.

    There was a woman who got a heart transplant who subsequently developed a taste for pints of stout and driving fast. It turned out that the heart was from a biker who enjoyed his Guinness. Can you imagine the effect a full body would have?


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    #48
    bnt
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    Junkyard Tom wrote: »
    But if my body was being controlled by a new head my body would know that the head was not mine so it would probably try to take control.
    You're kidding, right? Your body has no consciousness or awareness of anything at all, on its own. "You" as a person exist solely within your head. The person getting the transplant is pretty much only a head already, since his body is essentially dead weight at this point - which is why he's keen on replacing it with a working model! :pac:

    From out there on the moon, international politics look so petty. You want to grab a politician by the scruff of the neck and drag him a quarter of a million miles out and say, ‘Look at that, you son of a bitch’.

    — Edgar Mitchell, Apollo 14 Astronaut



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    #49
    catallus
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,106 ✭✭✭catallus


    bnt wrote: »
    You're kidding, right? Your body has no consciousness or awareness of anything at all, on its own. "You" as a person exist solely within your head...

    Where does the head end and the body begin, then?

    Is your neck part of your body? Or your head?


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    #50
    Bongalongherb
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,766 ✭✭✭Bongalongherb


    Junkyard Tom wrote: »
    There was a woman who got a heart transplant who subsequently developed a taste for pints of stout and driving fast. It turned out that the heart was from a biker who enjoyed his Guinness. Can you imagine the effect a full body would have?

    Yeah, I remember stories like that, it is an interesting topic to look into, there's something there for sure.


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    #51
    Bongalongherb
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,766 ✭✭✭Bongalongherb


    bnt wrote: »
    You're kidding, right? Your body has no consciousness or awareness of anything at all, on its own. "You" as a person exist solely within your head. The person getting the transplant is pretty much only a head already, since his body is essentially dead weight at this point - which is why he's keen on replacing it with a working model! :pac:

    LOL Classic.


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    #52
    Gael23
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    This would be a massive breach of medical ethics in my view.


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    #53
    Tin Foil Hat
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    catallus wrote: »
    Where does the head end and the body begin, then?

    Is your neck part of your body? Or your head?

    There's a great big organ in your head that kind of runs the show.


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    #54
    catallus
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,106 ✭✭✭catallus


    Tin Foil Hat wrote: »
    There's a great big organ in your head that kind of runs the show.

    Ah yes, my tongue is legendary :p

    But enough smut! This is serious.


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    #55
    Richard Hillman
    Registered Users Posts: 12,033 ✭✭✭✭Richard Hillman


    NotCominBack wrote: »
    I'd take a change, as long as they don't give me David Beckhams head, would like to have a few brain cells to work with
    Yeah, by that post I don't think you deserve David Beckham's head


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    #56
    Junkyard Tom
    Registered Users Posts: 10,117 ✭✭✭✭Junkyard Tom


    bnt wrote: »
    Your body has no consciousness or awareness of anything at all, on its own.

    That's silly. My head can't exist separate from my body and who says consciousness isn't a whole body thing? Apparently the bodies of some people who were guillotined got up and tried to put their heads back on so the body must have some sort of consciousness.


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    #57
    Bongalongherb
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,766 ✭✭✭Bongalongherb


    Crazy thinking... Stop thinking of life and external life as a matter scenario, when they both exist together but also separately.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2OVtpnpCOKM


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    #58
    Spook_ie
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    Mmmmm


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    #59
    Spook_ie
    Registered Users Posts: 10,896 ✭✭✭✭Spook_ie


    KungPao wrote: »
    Would jerking it be gay? It's someone elses ding dong after all.

    Hmmm, sensitive disposition leave it unclicked

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-2993555/World-s-PENIS-transplant-Man-21-organ-restored-amputated-botched-circumcision.html


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    #60
    steddyeddy
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    The man's a complete idiot and he should stay out of science and go back to medicine.


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    #61
    captainfrost
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    lmagine the horror of waking up with another persons head, thinking, ones mind will surely be in a state of madness. I doubt if this is possible.


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