Morrissey - "Obama doesn't appear to support black people"

MakeEmLaugh

Morrissey has given an interview in which he criticised Barack Obama's behaviour over recent conflicts between the police and black Americans.

Obama has mystified me because he doesn’t appear to support black people when they need it most… Ferguson being an obvious example. If Michael Brown had instead been one of Obama’s daughters, I don’t think Obama would be insisting that the nation support the so-called security forces! How can they be called security forces if they make the people feel insecure? Obama seems to be white inside. There is an obvious racial division in America and it’s exploding and Obama doesn’t ever support the innocent black people who are murdered by white police officers who are never held accountable. You would expect him to be more understanding of what it means to be black. But so far, he hasn’t been.​ There’s no point in continually saying that we must support the police when it is obvious to the entire world that the police in America are out of control.

Already he seems to have pissed a few people off.

DrGreenthumb

MakeEmLaugh wrote: »

Morrissey has given an interview in which he criticised Barack Obama's behaviour over recent conflicts between the police and black Americans.


Already he seems to have pissed a few people off.

What else is going on in that suedehead of Morrissey

Swanley

I quite like Marty to be honest. But this time he's way out of his league! Stick to the football Marty!

Lyaiera

Obama is such a silly sausage.

The Diabolical Monocle

Celebrate good Obama come on.

Junkyard Tom

If Barrack Obama was a champion of the rights of minorities he would never have been allowed to become President.

jank

Ah classic 'Uncle Tom' bull$hit from these race baiter's.

Turpentine

MakeEmLaugh wrote: »

Already he seems to have pissed a few people off.

That should be the disclaimer at the foot of every After Hours thread.

Jesus Wept

He has always been a bellend, now a non too smart and racist bellend

iamstop

He does kinda have a point though. Racism in America is so historical and so systemic. It might no be so blatantly in your face as signs saying 'No Blacks, No Dogs (No Irish)' but it is still intrinsically built into the very fabric of American society.

The Rodgers

The Rodgers wrote: »

He has always been a bellend, now a non too smart and racist bellend

Now?

Morrissey has faced accusations of racism for years, from waving Union Jacks with skinheads on stage to calling the Chinese a "subspecies".

suicide_circus

Morrissey needs to learn to keep his tofu hole shut

Merces

The fruit cake American religious right already believe: he is about to invade Texas, is Muslim, was born in Africa, is a Communist and is the anti-Christ. He is a fairly conservative President by global standards (people also seem to forget that he is half white) but if he actually showed any solidarity with black Americans on the police shooting issue they would have a field day with their half baked, right wing conspiracy theories.

NI24

What a stupid statement. As if a president who happens to be black must always look out for his "own kind". Obama's job is to address the issues of all Americans, regardless of their race.

SeantheMan

What does it matter what an British pop artist thinks of a foreign leader and his policies, does it really warrant a thread ?

I wonder what Paul McCartney thinks of Angela Merkel, or One Direction thinks of Enda ?

Actually, I don't really care, and I'm sure noone else does either, and the same with Morrisey's opinion on foreign politics.

Was it really worth starting a thread for ?

crazygeryy

NI24 wrote: »

What a stupid statement. As if a president who happens to be black must always look out for his "own kind". Obama's job is to address the issues of all Americans, regardless of their race.

yea but that's not the ticket he rode in on. he played the black card big time when he campaigned for election the first time.

smurgen

SeantheMan wrote: »

What does it matter what an British pop artist thinks of a foreign leader and his policies, does it really warrant a thread ?

I wonder what Paul McCartney thinks of Angela Merkel, or One Direction thinks of Enda ?

Actually, I don't really care, and I'm sure noone else does either, and the same with Morrisey's opinion on foreign politics.

Was it really worth starting a thread for ?

He's a public figure vocalising about a relevant issue in one of the largest countries in the world.also I think he's absolutely right.i think Obama is a worthless president with no nerve. He's populist like any other politician which is particularly galling in his case since his campaign focused on change and hope. Black Americans are in dire straights from what I can see with little or no support and very little real role models. The odds are very much stacked against them.

jank

smurgen wrote: »

He's a public figure vocalising about a relevant issue in one of the largest countries in the world.also I think he's absolutely right.i think Obama is a worthless president with no nerve. He's populist like any other politician which is particularly galling in his case since his campaign focused on change and hope. Black Americans are in dire straights from what I can see with little or no support and very little real role models. The odds are very much stacked against them.

Em, how about Obama?

endacl

This just in: Some singer says something or other unrelated to singing.

Crooked Jack

Merces wrote: »

The fruit cake American religious right already believe: he is about to invade Texas, is Muslim, was born in Africa, is a Communist and is the anti-Christ. He is a fairly conservative President by global standards (people also seem to forget that he is half white) but if he actually showed any solidarity with black Americans on the police shooting issue they would have a field day with their half baked, right wing conspiracy theories.

Perhaps but its not as if hes runnin for reelection. Wouldnt now be the time to show some balls

DM addict

SeantheMan wrote: »

What does it matter what an British pop artist thinks of a foreign leader and his policies, does it really warrant a thread ?

I wonder what Paul McCartney thinks of Angela Merkel, or One Direction thinks of Enda ?

Actually, I don't really care, and I'm sure noone else does either, and the same with Morrisey's opinion on foreign politics.

Personally I would *LOVE* to know what One Direction think of Enda.

anncoates

Can't see much racist about what he said myself.

He comes out with some mad stuff from time to time - always has - but at least at least he can articulate an opinion, unlike most of the dreary fcukwits that pass for pop stars these days.

c_man

Morrissey - "Obama doesn't appear to support black people"

Well at least he's not blowing them to pieces from the air as is his want with other peoples.

Eugene Norman

smurgen wrote: »

He's a public figure vocalising about a relevant issue in one of the largest countries in the world.also I think he's absolutely right.i think Obama is a worthless president with no nerve. He's populist like any other politician which is particularly galling in his case since his campaign focused on change and hope. Black Americans are in dire straights from what I can see with little or no support and very little real role models. The odds are very much stacked against them.

What you see is an underclass. Most of the rest of black America, like most Americans , belong to the dominant world economy and culture.

Eugene Norman

c_man wrote: »

Well at least he's not blowing them to pieces from the air as is his want with other peoples.

No. And certain black Americans in the army, not just him, contribute to that.

smash

"Obama seems to be white inside"

People need to realise that not all black people are from the ghetto. And this does not equate to being 'white inside'.

arayess

this is the typical SJW territory

rich man morrissey pontificating about another demographic that he is not part of and never will be. perceiving problems and dishing out accusations on behalf of others.


Actually morrissey could well be king of the SJWs given his pontificating in the past.

poor bono isn't extreme enough to be a SJW so he is just a bore.

Ash.J.Williams

that incident in texas with the barrel rolling cop speaks volumes....looked like good ole segregation to me

folamh

Let's see Morrissey do the president's job.

folamh

arayess wrote: »

this is the typical SJW territory

rich man morrissey pontificating about another demographic that he is not part of and never will be. perceiving problems and dishing out accusations on behalf of others.


Actually morrissey could well be king of the SJWs given his pontificating in the past.

poor bono isn't extreme enough to be a SJW so he is just a bore.

No, I think a good "SJW" would hold that white people like Morrissey shouldn't speak on behalf of minorities and dictate what's good for them.

conorhal

Merces wrote: »

The fruit cake American religious right already believe: he is about to invade Texas, is Muslim, was born in Africa, is a Communist and is the anti-Christ. He is a fairly conservative President by global standards (people also seem to forget that he is half white) but if he actually showed any solidarity with black Americans on the police shooting issue they would have a field day with their half baked, right wing conspiracy theories.

I loathed the notion of Obama as president he had all the hallmarks of left wing idiocy, Chicago Democrat (byword for corrupt) who perfered student politics and never had a real job (A darker shade of Gilmore) but if he's just come out at the beginning and said that "actually, I'm just a moderate Republican" then I'd I've backed him.
Obama missed an opportunity by running for the wrong party, he could have united the Republicans by giving them a black conservative candidate.

Mr Freeze

I'm siding with Morrissey on this one. A first for me.

Aongus Von Bismarck

Morrissey really gets far too much attention. He’s a silly middle-aged bore. His autobiography was one of the most sanctimonious and petty bits of drivel I’ve ever had the misfortune to read.



Even his lyrics with The Smiths get far too much praise. Wow, he was a depressed and self-absorbed teenager in the 70’s in England. He had no clothes to wear. He felt awkward. We get it. It’s like he read a few kitchen-sink plays and based his career as a perpetual sulky man-child on it.


The bizarre hero worship he gets from some people is utterly cringe-inducing.

Marr said it best about Morrissey when he penned "Getting Away With It".

Nodin

Deleted User wrote: »

Marr said it best about Morrissey when he penned "Getting Away With It".

Johnny Marr....great musician, could have been in a legendary band, ended up stuck with moody arse. Just shows ye, life is harsh.

Ash.J.Williams

Deleted User wrote: »

Marr said it best about Morrissey when he penned "Getting Away With It".

Neil Tennant and bernard sumner wrote that didn't they?

Ash.J.Williams

Ash.J.Williams wrote: »

Neil Tennant and bernard sumner wrote that didn't they?

All three are credited.

Not sure who was having a go, but Marr certainly didn't object!

anncoates

Deleted User wrote: »

All three are credited.

Not sure who was having a go, but Marr certainly didn't object!

Always thought it sounded like a typically Neil Tennant lyric myself.




This is the kind of enjoyable trainspotter argument that makes my wife raise her eyes to heaven.

NachoBusiness

If Michael Brown had been one of Obama's daughters then I'm pretty sure Barack would have been looking for a DNA test, quick sharp, not to mention a medic's opinion on why the hell his daughter had a penis.

Favouite Obama moment for me so far is when he called Mr Kardashian a jackass.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=078BGtKNL1o

folamh

Aongus Von Bismarck wrote: »

Even his lyrics with The Smiths get far too much praise. Wow, he was a depressed and self-absorbed teenager in the 70’s in England. He had no clothes to wear. He felt awkward. We get it. It’s like he read a few kitchen-sink plays and based his career as a perpetual sulky man-child on it.

Hahaha. I love the Smiths but lol at this.

Ash.J.Williams

Deleted User wrote: »

All three are credited.

Not sure who was having a go, but Marr certainly didn't object!

lyrics sumner/tennant music: marr/sumner as far as i know

Ash.J.Williams

Ash.J.Williams wrote: »

lyrics sumner/tennant music: marr/sumner as far as i know

Ah. Maybe so.

I like New Order and Electronic myself, but as Sumner had such a slight, weak voice he possibly shouldn't have aimed "getting away with it" lyrics at anyone!

Stephen Morris on drums was some musician though. Machine like. One of the best drummers ever.

Magico Gonzalez

Pipe down bacon hater.

Cold War Kid

Not seeing what's so controversial about it tbh. Morrissey (much as I adore The Smiths and some of his solo output) has been known to say far more inflammatory stuff. I think it's a pretty left-wing-populist thing to say tbh. Something Stephen Patrick isn't usually known for.

Ash.J.Williams

Deleted User wrote: »

Ah. Maybe so.

I like New Order and Electronic myself, but as Sumner had such a slight, weak voice he possibly shouldn't have aimed "getting away with it" lyrics at anyone!

Stephen Morris on drums was some musician though. Machine like. One of the best drummers ever.

yeah stephen moris is my favourite member of neworder, he's hilarious!

LadyFenghuang

Obama has done one great thing Obamacare. NOW WAIT HEAR ME OUT OK!!!

It's one of the most effective culture changes in the states. I think on the same level as Thatcher changed culture in the UK only in the opposite direction.

I know it's compulsory insurance not universal healthcare through taxation. But finally in the US people are compelled to buy healthcare. And now there is the general idea that everyone SHOULD have and MUST have healthcare and health insurance. THAT is a HUGE culture shift it's why the right HATE Obama so much.

I agree he did not use his presidency to aid minorities as much as he could have. But can you imagine what the republican party would have done????

As the Sparks said 'LIGHTEN UP MORRISSEY'. Listen to that song! And Sparks in general!


And also putting the onus on OBAMA to support black people sort of lets the rest of the establishment off the hook. The entire establishment should be held to account!

c_man

LadyFenghuang wrote: »

But can you imagine what the republican party would have done????

They'd have probably got involved in a couple of legally dubious military misadventures, expanded the surveillance and security state in the US, sucked up to Wall Street and done their bidding without question... actually which party is Obama in again?!

LadyFenghuang

c_man wrote: »

They'd have probably got involved in a couple of legally dubious military misadventures, expanded the surveillance and security state in the US, sucked up to Wall Street and done their bidding without question... actually which party is Obama in again?!

Politics is a merky business. He is better than bush though....I hope.