***2015 LC Irish Paper 1 - Higher Level - June 8th***

Anonymagician

Really lovely essay titles in my opinion. The aural was extremely straightforward too.

maude6868

What essays did ye get.

obriendj

maude6868 wrote: »

What essays did ye get.

What this person said...

any essay titles?

MmmPancakes

I picked (c), what a broad title: ''Scéalta móra in Éirinn an lae inniú.''

I wrote about the education system (and about how there is controversy over the pass maths paper), the recession (which you still hear about on the news), young people, drugs & alcohol etc.

I can't remember any others lol

if832uspx4eogt

I did the nua-teicneolaíochta one.

I wanted to do the Córas oideachais, but the title was "we have an excellent system" so I wasn't sure if I could completely turn it on it's head, considering it was a radio talk.

if832uspx4eogt

Oh, and the aural was beautiful.

Magnate

Beautiful exam, couldn't have gone any better. I had about 5 choices that I could've answered. Best exam so far for me.

Elsa Faint Ray wrote: »

I wanted to do the Córas oideachais, but the title was "we have an excellent system" so I wasn't sure if I could completely turn it on it's head, considering it was a radio talk.

I just presumed you could disagree with it, I'm sure you can. I just said I disagreed with it completely and went from there.

Laurenom

Did (B) drugs and alcohol! tied in poverty and the homeless as well!

Anonymagician

I did the scéalta móra. Surprisingly broad title. Got to write about seandaoine and the Irish language (I didn't have enough info to do a full essay on either so it was perfect)

dory

Elsa Faint Ray wrote: »

I did the nua-teicneolaíochta one.

I wanted to do the Córas oideachais, but the title was "we have an excellent system" so I wasn't sure if I could completely turn it on it's head, considering it was a radio talk.

That's going to catch a lot of people. Not meant to disagree with a Caint but seeing as they've never made that clear anywhere, and loads are going to here, they have to allow it. We only knew because people got 0 for disagreeing in the Pre.

Magnate

dory wrote: »

That's going to catch a lot of people. Not meant to disagree with a Caint but seeing as they've never made that clear anywhere, and loads are going to here, they have to allow it. We only knew because people got 0 for disagreeing in the Pre.

Oh no

Bah_Humbug

Killed that teicneolaiocht essay

leavingcert15

If you disagreed with the education system can you still get high marks it was my first time doing the oràid, I started it with ''dia dhuit. Is mise .... '' is that alright

KatieG6

Best paper ever- so many options for essays 😀
Did part (c) about 'scealta mora an lae inniu' such a broad essay you could practically put everything into it!

Managed to write 5 and a half pages. Talked about water charges, politicians, eductation system, violence...

Let's hope P2 will be as nice ðŸ˜

Saz513

For anyone that was wondering, the essay titles were:
-The age of technology
-Drugs and alcohol in Ireland
-"Big stories of today's day" (so news or something, I assume?)
-Advantages and disadvantages of travel
-Irish today (or something like that...I'm not too sure, I crossed them out after picking my one :P)

Then in the the debate section, there was a question on the health system and one on the status of women

lexijade

If I only wrote about politics/water chargers in he scealta mora in eirinn sa lae inniu does that mean I lose marks? Everyone else seems to have talked about a lot of different tooics

Peg14

Lovely!! Did also scéálta móra - terroism stories, health system stories and for a good story, the new ancient east of Ireland tourism thing. Listening was grand too

Bsd

Óráid: This will differ from the "Díspóireacht" in that you are giving a talk to a group of people. Unlike the debate, you may deal with both sides of the argument.

Kat97

I did drugs and alcohol and tied in bochtannas etc!

Thought the listening was quite fast but overall I liked the paper !

orangey24

such a nice paper. I did the oraid on the coras oideachais. I know it said that it's good but I mentioned in intro that there's advantages and disadvantages and then talked about the advantages for one paragraph and said that I think it's not good and went on about that. Will I lose marks or.... ?

AulBiddy

Did the nua theicneolaiochta one. Always have to praise Irish for the choices they give. This is from the perspective of a v weak irish student, btw. did a bit of mean sosialta and how we have become lazy and so on. Pretty okay with it, I'm no gaelgoiri but hopefully it'll do me enough to get a c3

JimLarkin101

I did the Oráid on the córas oideachais. I'm sure there's going to be many panicked question regarding it, so can someone just clarify -Can you go against it? And if you can't what is the penalty?

Bsd

Oraid allows you to take eithier side of the statement so disagreeing is allowed

leavingcert15

taím anseo ag an raidío na gaeltachta inniu chun caint leis na daoine óga faoi na gcóras oideachais. nil aon t-am agam ach ba mhaith liomsa dá leat smaoinigh faoin an gcóras oideachais mar tá athruithe ag teastáil sa chóras oideachais. i had an essay planned and I never done a speech so i started and finished with them sentences, are they completely wrong or do they look ok?

blobcat

Such a nice paper! I had taisteal prepared for the mocks so that was fine for me.

Did anyone get the last question for the listening? About why the offices were located in the place they were?

ThatsTheShtuff

I had to check the aural front page to make sure I actually got the higher level set of questions,
unnaturally easy, in my opinion! Irish is one of my stronger subjects, but it has to be said,
the aural was accessible for all ends of higher level. No strong accents, very slow speakers,
no words/phrases tricky to figure. Simple!

As for the essay choice, there was a lovely variety, something for everyone.
I chose the problem of drink and drugs in Ireland today, because it is topical, therefore predictable,
and i had an essay prepared for it! Lovely Hopefully paper 2 will deliver the same!!

ThatsTheShtuff

Although i didn't choose it, the 'big stories of today' essay title was a brilliant option to give students.
Infact, the topical essays students have prepared may have been rolled into one,
between homelessness, drugs and alcohol, racism, terrorism, water charges.. the list is endless!
Great question.

Fiona G

blobcat wrote:

Did anyone get the last question for the listening? About why the offices were located in the place they were?

Something about having broadband anyway

DarraghF197

Three essays prepared from the mocks, all three came up in one shape or form

Picked Education system as I'm strongest at that. However I said that it was mainly good, but filled my essay by adding in a couple of paragraphs of the not so good. It's a radio talk, anyone who listens to one will realise thatx the majority of the time, they do give both sides of the argument.

Wrote 4.4 pages, at about 220 words per page, so, presuming there's no flaws with relevance, on course!

Listening was great as well. Never gave a crap about irish fir the whole of the Leaving Cert campaign. However I did really good in the oral and paper one, so I might as well try now!

MmmPancakes

lexijade wrote: »

If I only wrote about politics/water chargers in he scealta mora in eirinn sa lae inniu does that mean I lose marks? Everyone else seems to have talked about a lot of different tooics

No, they are clearly big stories in Ireland today. You won't lose any for writing about them. The thing is with the aiste, is that a huge chunk of the marks go for your Irish, it's not an information exam, it's a test of your grammar and such. If your content can be relevant, I'd say it is

pandoraj09

What was the gearrsceal anyone please???

DarraghF197

pandoraj09 wrote: »

What was the gearrsceal anyone please???

I think it was proudness and far away the hills are green.

pandoraj09

Thanks!!!

JimLarkin101

pandoraj09 wrote: »

What was the gearrsceal anyone please???

Pride (Bród)
The grass is always greener on the other side. (Is glas iad na cnoic i bhfad uainn )

Lc2015123

I also done the Education System debate. I always thought in a debate you could agree or disagree, would that be correct?

I mosty disagreed but i did talk about why some people would say it is a good system? Can somebody please clarify before i take a heart attack

Magnate

Lc2015123 wrote: »

I also done the Education System debate. I always thought in a debate you could agree or disagree, would that be correct?

I mosty disagreed but i did talk about why some people would say it is a good system? Can somebody please clarify before i take a heart attack

Well first of all it was a talk not a debate, so if you used a debate introduction addressing the opposition etc you're gonna lose your marks for style, but it's only worth 5 marks I believe.

The general consensus seems to be that in a talk/speech you're free to address both sides of the argument, but I would assume that it's also okay to only focus on one.

Lc2015123

Magnate wrote: »

Well first of all it was a talk not a debate, so if you used a debate introduction addressing the opposition etc you're gonna lose your marks for style, but it's only worth 5 marks I believe.

The general consensus seems to be that in a talk/speech you're free to address both sides of the argument, but I would assume that it's also okay to only focus on one.

Thank you for replying so quickly!

I basically started off by saying "dia duit radio na gaeilge, conas ata tu?" And was saying that i have the LC coming up and i think it would be a good idea to talk about it today on the radio. I mostly disagreed with it but kept addressing the listeners, and also gave reasons to why some people would think its a good system but concluded that in my opinion its to academic overall.

It was my first time doing this as i always do the aiste but had a really good aiste for coras oidechais learned off and it didnt come up. Seems i was lucky to get a talk and not a debate because i dont even know the layout. What is the marking scheme for section C

Anonymagician

Seems like lots of people didn't realise the flexibility of the scéalta móra. It was a very generous title imo and the education system, health system, terrorism, racism, old people, young people, water charges, politics, media etc could all have been talked about in it!

Magnate

Lc2015123 wrote: »

Thank you for replying so quickly!

I basically started off by saying "dia duit radio na gaeilge, conas ata tu?" And was saying that i have the LC coming up and i think it would be a good idea to talk about it today on the radio. I mostly disagreed with it but kept addressing the listeners, and also gave reasons to why some people would think its a good system but concluded that in my opinion its to academic overall.

It was my first time doing this as i always do the aiste but had a really good aiste for coras oidechais learned off and it didnt come up. Seems i was lucky to get a talk and not a debate because i dont even know the layout. What is the marking scheme for section C

The breakdown is 5 marks for the correct format, 15 for staying on task and keeping it relevant to the question then 80 marks for your wealth of Irish, grammar, vocab etc. etc.

Also I think it stated that the exams were over in the question, but I wouldn't worry about it I doubt you'd lose any marks.

Lc2015123

Magnate wrote: »

The breakdown is 5 marks for the correct format, 15 for staying on task and keeping it relevant to the question then 80 marks for your wealth of Irish, grammar, vocab etc. etc.

Also I think it stated that the exams were over in the question, but I wouldn't worry about it I doubt you'd lose any marks.

Ah crap 😂 thanks a mill for the info. Ill sleep tonight

Lc2015123

Anonymagician wrote: »

Seems like lots of people didn't realise the flexibility of the scéalta móra. It was a very generous title imo and the education system, health system, terrorism, racism, old people, young people, water charges, politics, media etc could all have been talked about in it!

I didnt understand that question which now looking at it makes me sick because if i wasnt so nervous i would have figured it out in a second and could of put 2 A1 essays together. At least i got to use one of them. If i hadn't and came out and heard what the title meant i neber would have gotten over it

DarraghF197

Magnate wrote: »

The breakdown is 5 marks for the correct format, 15 for staying on task and keeping it relevant to the question then 80 marks for your wealth of Irish, grammar, vocab etc. etc.

Also I think it stated that the exams were over in the question, but I wouldn't worry about it I doubt you'd lose any marks.

I still wonder how that marking scheme works. I've come up with one way: if one gets relevance of 13/15, and say the Irish standard is 75/80, then the marks you would get for the standard of irish would be 13/15x75/80, which is 65/80.

Otherwise, anyone could write a random essay out and get 85/100 without it being in any way related to the question.

randylonghorn

Magnate wrote: »

Also I think it stated that the exams were over in the question, but I wouldn't worry about it I doubt you'd lose any marks.

Yeah, I really doubt they will worry too much about whether people say "with the exams now over" or "as we face into our exams" tbh.

Magnate

DarraghF197 wrote: »

I still wonder how that marking scheme works. I've come up with one way: if one gets relevance of 13/15, and say the Irish standard is 75/80, then the marks you would get for the standard of irish would be 13/15x75/80, which is 65/80.

Otherwise, anyone could write a random essay out and get 85/100 without it being in any way related to the question.

I'd assume it works the same way as English, on a tiered marking scheme. So yeah if you only got 5/15 for purpose (33%) I'd say you could get 33 percent of the 80 marks max, (26m)

DarraghF197

Magnate wrote: »

I'd assume it works the same way as English, on a tiered marking scheme. So yeah if you only got 5/15 for purpose (33%) I'd say you could get 33 percent of the 80 marks max, (26m)

Oh yeah, didn't think of English! That does make sense, a lot nicer than my system for sure! Hopefully I won't get docked too much marks for showing both sides of the Education System.

Lc2015123

DarraghF197 wrote: »

Oh yeah, didn't think of English! That does make sense, a lot nicer than my system for sure! Hopefully I won't get docked too much marks for showing both sides of the Education System.

I done the same and was told because it wasnt a debate per say, it was a talk you were open to talk about both sides

Bsd

I fully disagreed with oideachais oraid and asked a couple of teachers after and they said thats alright. It an oraid you can agree or disagree as much as you want

Lc2015123

Bsd wrote: »

I fully disagreed with oideachais oraid and asked a couple of teachers after and they said thats alright. It an oraid you can agree or disagree as much as you want

Thank God

Bsd

Also people who said they got 0 in the pre for doing that, i fully diagreed in the pre as well with a title almost the exact same and it was an oraid and i got 77

Magnate

Bsd wrote: »

Also people who said they got 0 in the pre for doing that, i fully diagreed in the pre as well with a title almost the exact same and it was an oraid and i got 77

Yeah I'd say it was lazy correcting more than anything.

mun_ster45

I did the "scealta mora" question and only wrote about coras oideachais and why it is a big issue in the news today, referring to how it makes the alcohol problem worse amougnst teenagers and how sport is an issue for teenagers because of the C.O. Would I lose many marks? only realised after the exam that it was plural of sceal!!