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Weird sleep phenomena

  • 03-06-2015 6:48pm
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    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,353 ✭✭✭


    Last night when I was not quite asleep but dozing off, I started to hear a loud noise, like seagulls chattering, and it kept getting louder and louder. I started to feel really cold too and the quilt was down at my knees. Then I felt someone's hands grabbing my arm... :eek:

    Naturally I was terrified out of my wits, then I suddenly found myself wrapped in my quilt, nobody there, no seagulls sound. I had woken up - it was a hypnagogic (the point between being awake and asleep) hallucination.

    I used to get one about once a year - it was always in the morning on a day off when I dozed back to sleep after waking for a bit. It was never scary, well not really (daylight helped) and it would tend to involve me hearing someone calling me (usually someone I knew, not a strange voice) and coming into my room and nudging me awake, and I'd try to reply but couldn't (because of sleep paralysis).

    But in recent times, it has happened to me twice very late at night when dozing off, and it's ****ing freaky!
    It's mad how real it feels.

    So I looked it up, and it's a thing all right - an unexplained neurological phenomenon, related to sleep paralysis. People hear, with bizarre vividness, doorbells, phones ringing, the sound of rustling bags (that's what I heard a few weeks ago), screaming, their names being called. The sensation of someone entering your room seems to happen in all instances, and sometimes there is the feeling of an entity pressing down on their chest (never had that one :eek:) which even has a term: "old hag phenomenon". A scary auld demonic bint going around visiting people.

    I would imagine it's sometimes the basis of what are considered haunted houses. I remember reading a haunted house story about a girl who described the sound of paper crumpling while she was in bed at night, and getting louder and louder, which seems exactly like a sleep hallucination.

    http://www.scientificamerican.com/article/ask-the-brains-sleep-paralysis/

    Anyone else got strange, spooky sleep experiences to share?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 877 ✭✭✭Magnate


    Yep I get that and sleep paralysis the odd time, not a nice feeling at all!


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 8,867 ✭✭✭eternal


    I dream that I traverse dimensions and talk to people living there in simultaneous lives. I also have the feeling I'm being possessed or that people are watching me while I sleep. It's really disturbing. I write a lot about it to try to explain it better.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,622 ✭✭✭Ruu


    All the time, someone reaching for my neck sometimes. Can see the shadowy figure at the door, screaming my head off and no sound.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 583 ✭✭✭HardenendMan


    I often here a very real knock on the bedroom door just as I'm falling asleep. Happens often enough that I know it's not real. Weird all the same!


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 8,867 ✭✭✭eternal


    Did you ever dream that you're living in a dream, that you don't know where the dream ends. You wake up and it could be a false reality while in the dream world, truth and knowledge exists.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,819 ✭✭✭howamidifferent


    I often here a very real knock on the bedroom door just as I'm falling asleep. Happens often enough that I know it's not real. Weird all the same!


    Yeah sorry about that. I always get the wrong house.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,148 ✭✭✭Ronan|Raven


    Sleep Paralysis.. it is a dirty **** is what it is.

    The first time it happened me I was genuinely terrified to go back to sleep for a few days.. a dark faceless character at the end of the bed, cant move, cant scream, cant do jack ****...
    Happened a few times afterwards over the years thankfully it hasn't reoccurred for a few years..


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,063 ✭✭✭Greenmachine


    Been there, done that. Also had false awakening and had a few periods where I had active lucid dreams.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,872 ✭✭✭strobe


    I know that if you go too heavy on the yokes you're in for a spell of it.


  • Posts: 26,052 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    I get it the odd time, I do get very frightened though. I'm always convinced I've developed Locked-In Syndrome. I know it lasts less than a minute but it's a very, very, long minute.

    I'd say most, if not all, of the alien abduction phenomena are related to sleep vagaries.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 803 ✭✭✭Rough Sleeper


    strobe wrote: »
    I know that if you go too heavy on the yokes you're in for a spell of it.
    Ya, if I take a rake of bangers I'm absolutely guaranteed to have it exactly two nights after the session in which I indulged. I'll always be pretty much over the hump after that as well, like not feeling washed out any more. Dunno what that says about the mechanism of sleep paralysis but I guess it says something.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,872 ✭✭✭strobe


    Ya, if I take a rake of bangers I'm absolutely guaranteed to have it exactly two nights after the session in which I indulged. I'll always be pretty much over the hump after that as well, like not feeling washed out any more. Dunno what that says about the mechanism of sleep paralysis but I guess it says something.

    Serotonin along with a metric sh1tload of other things it does helps regulate and control sleep. A drug that plays a game of the floor is made of lava with your dealies that regulate it is bound to have some effect on how you process sleep.

    I'm a scientist, I swear. :pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,313 ✭✭✭✭Sam Kade


    I had a dream of the future one time. Nothing spectacular it was just something that happened the next day, I did know that morning that it would happen which it did in the exact detail that I dreamed of.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,128 ✭✭✭✭aaronjumper


    Sometimes I can hear someone calling me, which wakes me up. Then I have to try and doze off again and hope the second times the charm.
    Rare enough, so it doesn't annoy me but still strange.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,246 ✭✭✭ardinn


    A bit of advice on SP.

    Try to go with it (strange I know) But the less you panic the easier it is. SP is the gateway to Lucid dreaming - Look up Jody Whitley on utube and listen to some of her stuff - she will however encourage SP. And actively encourage you to engage with it.

    The simplest steps to take to get out of SP are - trying to wiggle a finger - just one - concentrate on it. couple of seconds later your free. or, "sigh" as hard as you can - a big breath out!

    The pressure on your chest is described as the laying of a dead body across you :D Just thought I would let you know that!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,591 ✭✭✭✭Aidric


    Ya, if I take a rake of bangers I'm absolutely guaranteed to have it exactly two nights after the session in which I indulged. I'll always be pretty much over the hump after that as well, like not feeling washed out any more. Dunno what that says about the mechanism of sleep paralysis but I guess it says something.

    It's the lack of sleep whilst on the bangers that creeps up. That feeling of someone on top of you while you drift off is a dirty one.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 8,867 ✭✭✭eternal


    ardinn wrote: »
    A bit of advice on SP.

    Try to go with it (strange I know) But the less you panic the easier it is. SP is the gateway to Lucid dreaming - Look up Jody Whitley on utube and listen to some of her stuff - she will however encourage SP. And actively encourage you to engage with it.

    The simplest steps to take to get out of SP are - trying to wiggle a finger - just one - concentrate on it. couple of seconds later your free. or, "sigh" as hard as you can - a big breath out!

    The pressure on your chest is described as the laying of a dead body across you :D Just thought I would let you know that!!

    I thought the pressure was described as a demon trying to possess you or that's what I heard. The feeling of being suffocated and trapped while you can't wake up. It's terrifying.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,353 ✭✭✭Cold War Kid


    Yeah the "hyperness" after E and alcohol... makes sense.

    I don't get the chest-being-crushed sensation thankfully (I do experience the sensation of being grabbed by the arm or shoulder though) and I've never seen a figure - that... would not be fun.

    The noise is freaky though - starts off loudish, then builds and builds and builds until it's deafening. The feeling of a physical presence is terrifyingly real too.

    Can totally understand how superstitious people would think it's demons and sh-t.


  • Posts: 26,052 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Yeah the "hyperness" after E and alcohol... makes sense.

    I don't get the chest-being-crushed sensation thankfully (I do experience the sensation of being grabbed by the arm or shoulder though) and I've never seen a figure - that... would not be fun.

    The noise is freaky though - starts off loudish, then builds and builds and builds until it's deafening. The feeling of a physical presence is terrifyingly real too.

    Can totally understand how superstitious people would think it's demons and sh-t.

    I get the dead weight on my chest, and can't draw in air. It's horrible, but I don't feel a presence with it, it feels like some medical issue like two collapsed lungs is about to kill me. Then when I realise I'm not dying I feel I've been paralysed. Terrifying stuff.

    I used to get night terrors as a child, luckily my memory of them has faded other than a vague remembrance of being chased by monsters and being so afraid my chest was about to explode!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,591 ✭✭✭✭Aidric


    The noise is freaky though - starts off loudish, then builds and builds and builds until it's deafening. The feeling of a physical presence is terrifyingly real too.

    Can totally understand how superstitious people would think it's demons and sh-t.

    At the start it's terrifying but I think after a while you come to expect it. Dare I say it you can even embrace it when you know it's coming.

    The physical presence element is definitely the scariest.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,039 ✭✭✭✭retro:electro


    I used to get that quite a bit, it's actually terrifying when it happens. I used to be terrified going to sleep for a while when I had it ongoing. I don't get it as much now but instead I've been waking in the middle of the night and think I see a spider crawling on my blankets only to fling them on the floor and suddenly realise I'm imagining things.

    I used to sleep walk a lot as a child too. Once my mother came in to wake me for school and found me asleep in the wardrobe. Another night I got up and got the milk from the fridge and brought it into bed with me!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,294 ✭✭✭YellowFeather


    Not SP, but I have a reoccurring 'space' that I dream of at least twice a week. It's a big centre built on a mountain, and I have an apartment on the side of it sometimes. There are loads of different things in the centre that I dream about, but it's always the same place.

    Also, it's shaped like a seashell.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,067 ✭✭✭✭fryup


    i wonder does it happen to a certain type of personality

    a hyper-sensitive person??


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 8,867 ✭✭✭eternal


    fryup wrote: »
    i wonder does it happen to a certain type of personality

    a hyper-sensitive person??

    Past ravers by the looks of things.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 291 ✭✭TheBrinch


    It has happened to me a good few times. I only remember one of them properly now.
    This entire thing lasted for what seems like 5-10 minutes. I was completely frozen and a dark figure down the end of my bed slowly glided up the side of the bed until it was right over me. I was trying like crazy to shout out but nothing would work (terrifying stuff). Then he pulled out a big knife and really slowly pushed it into the middle of my chest. I was able to feel all of this. He then jerked the knife downwards in a swift motion and I jolted awake and was absolutely bucketing sweat!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 853 ✭✭✭Idjit


    ardinn wrote: »
    A bit of advice on SP.

    The simplest steps to take to get out of SP are - trying to wiggle a finger - just one - concentrate on it. couple of seconds later your free. or, "sigh" as hard as you can - a big breath out!

    The reason I panic during SP is because I usually have the sensation that I'm not breathing at all. Like it feels like my nose isn't taking in air and my lips are shut and stuck that way because I'm paralysed. So sighing wouldn't work to take me out of it at least :P


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,354 ✭✭✭nocoverart


    Definitely Aliens OP. On a side note, if any Boardies ever come across DMT.. give me a PM


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 184 ✭✭Sir montygom


    my wife sees an old woman standing at the end of our bed a lot of nights.......many times i wake up to go to jacks and my wife is sitting up staring at something/one........ or when we are about to nod off to sleep she gets these big jerks like she got a shock from an electric fence ...very annoying as usually interrupts my nice dream(about her of course:eek:):P


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,246 ✭✭✭ardinn


    Big jerks are fairly normal - the woman is not SP - your house is haunted!


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,585 ✭✭✭Jerichoholic


    Having a similar problem too, only before it happens, the temples in my head sort of vibrate and tremor, then I get a floating feeling followed by that old hag thing, which just hurts me until I force myself to wake up. It's awful I'm getting no sleep lately.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 184 ✭✭Sir montygom


    ardinn wrote: »
    Big jerks are fairly normal - the woman is not SP - your house is haunted!

    i know the big jerks are fairly normal as i would get one myself on a very rare occasion ...my wife gets them almost every night......she gets the feeling of somebody lying on her also and pressure on her chest......anyhow i told my wife if she sees the old woman's daughter at the end of the bed to wake me:cool:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 408 ✭✭Unregistered39


    TheBrinch wrote: »
    It has happened to me a good few times. I only remember one of them properly now.
    This entire thing lasted for what seems like 5-10 minutes. I was completely frozen and a dark figure down the end of my bed slowly glided up the side of the bed until it was right over me. I was trying like crazy to shout out but nothing would work (terrifying stuff). Then he pulled out a big knife and really slowly pushed it into the middle of my chest. I was able to feel all of this. He then jerked the knife downwards in a swift motion and I jolted awake and was absolutely bucketing sweat!

    Isn't the dark figure thing so bizarre? Must look into it. I get SP about 3-4 times a year and always the figure. I can hear the noise of him (seems like a man) walking around my bed and can hear them brushing against the covers. I've had them pull back the covers to get in (but not get in) and pull me by the ankles. Terrifying, but there's always a very small part of me that's awake and knows it's not real. The fighting to get out of it but being powerless is the worst part...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 24,465 ✭✭✭✭darkpagandeath


    Nothing weird about sleep paralysis, Well unless you think it's aliens abducting you. Used to be before aliens witches or demons.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,354 ✭✭✭nocoverart


    Nothing weird about sleep paralysis, Well unless you think it's aliens abducting you. Used to be before aliens witches or demons.

    Your last sentence is not coherent. Have the Greys got to you young servant?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 24,465 ✭✭✭✭darkpagandeath


    nocoverart wrote: »
    Your last sentence is not coherent. Have the Greys got to you young servant?

    Nah I'm older is it not little green men anymore ?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 600 ✭✭✭SMJSF


    I get sleep paralysis about once a week, it can be more.
    Ive had it since about 14, and I thought it was from a portal doorway in my bedroom, it freaked me out so much and thought it was due to leaving my wardrobe doors open (silly child watching too much paranormal tv!!!)
    But over the years I learned that it's due to sleeping on my back or on my right side.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,740 ✭✭✭the evasion_kid


    I get that feeling of falling most nights when I'm just about to doze off,a hypnic jerk as its called and the last few years I've been getting this feeling like my soul is trying to leave my body fairly quickly,only way i can describe it but it leaves me feeling wtf was that.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,353 ✭✭✭Cold War Kid


    SMJSF wrote: »
    I get sleep paralysis about once a week, it can be more.
    Ive had it since about 14, and I thought it was from a portal doorway in my bedroom, it freaked me out so much and thought it was due to leaving my wardrobe doors open (silly child watching too much paranormal tv!!!)
    But over the years I learned that it's due to sleeping on my back or on my right side.
    Yes, a piece of advice is not to sleep on your back.

    Maybe too much caffeine isn't ideal for it too, seeing as it's possibly a symptom of stress/anxiety. No more coffee in the evening for me.
    /mad yoke


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 24,465 ✭✭✭✭darkpagandeath


    Bouncing off the bed is pretty bad as well :P


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,643 ✭✭✭worded


    Thought thrad read "wierd Sheep....."

    Ok time for sleep

    1 wierd sheep
    2 wierd sheep
    3 ...........


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,816 ✭✭✭lulu1


    Some of the medication used to treat neurological conditions that cause halucinations. I know a woman that takes her dog to bed with her at night because they seem so real.

    She knows if the dog barks there is someone there and if the dog dosen't bark it was all a dream. I also know a person who sees a black labroder sitting on the couch beside him every night.

    Must be very frightening


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 11,221 ✭✭✭✭m5ex9oqjawdg2i


    Is this not what people experience all the time when they sleep? I thought I was normal once :(


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,353 ✭✭✭Cold War Kid


    Is this not what people experience all the time when they sleep? I thought I was normal once :(
    Well on this thread of just 40-odd posts, a lot of people are saying they experience it so you're probably ok. :)

    Probably... :pac:

    Seriously though, if it's happening constantly, maybe it's worth getting it checked out - to see whether it's a symptom of something underlying. If it were happening every night or close to it, going to bed must be dreadful.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,511 ✭✭✭✭PARlance


    I get a form of SP occasionally, maybe once a year or so. It involves me waking up but being unable to move anything bar my eyes.

    It scared the hell out of me the first time it happened, I was about 16 and had nodded off while watching tv, woke up and could hear and see all around me but couldn't move or talk. It seemed like it lasted ages but was probably no more than 30 seconds. I thought I was dead :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,634 ✭✭✭ThinkProgress


    I've only experienced something like that once in my life.

    I was dreaming that there was a crowd of dead people standing right around the four walls of my bedroom. (if you can picture the entire crew of the flying dutchman ghost ship in pirates of the caribbean)

    They were all just skin and bones people, with the most terrifying looks on their faces. And their clothes were disgustingly filthy.

    Then I woke up, but for some reason I could still see them. And I couldn't move!

    Not sure how much time passed, but it felt like forever. Anyway I found out later I had a really bad fever and was sick for the next two weeks.

    But it seemed so incredibly real. And I was almost like hypnotized by them, because I couldn't look away or move out of my bed. Scary stuff! :(


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 470 ✭✭Fran1985


    Absolutely terrifying experience however the more you get it the easier it becomes, but still leaves ya on edge.

    My worst case of it was when i was staying in a boat on the shannon. I went down to it for a few days cos every time i looked around there was another night out. I needed a break. My parents were on one so i joined them. That night i was sleeping near the door when it opened. In walked an old man, old indian chief actually and i started ROARING my head off but no sound. Then i realised what was happening so i became calmer while still hyper ventalating. The trick i find when its happening is to close your eyes real tight then when you open you should be awake. You'll then most likely be awake for some time because the fear and adrenalin is racing through you. Nasty experience all the same


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,342 ✭✭✭Bobby Baccala


    Once fell asleep after a night of raving and taking 2cb's and the whole night replayed in my head while I slept, but backwards! Everything I had done that night was rewinded and played back to me it was great haha never experienced anything like it


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,020 ✭✭✭BlaasForRafa


    Paralysis is a normal part of the sleep cycle isn't it? It's just the waking up while paralysed is the unnerving bit because that's when your mind is dreaming.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,163 ✭✭✭Shrap


    strobe wrote: »
    I know that if you go too heavy on the yokes you're in for a spell of it.
    Aidric wrote: »
    It's the lack of sleep whilst on the bangers that creeps up. That feeling of someone on top of you while you drift off is a dirty one.

    Yeah, that seems to be the case. I used to attribute it to acid flashbacks when I was younger (as that's when they started for me), but then I found out about SP and read up on it a bit and it mainly happens when you're well overtired or have had majorly interrupted sleep over a few days.

    Christ, it's scary stuff. I don't get the feeling of someone laying on my chest holding me down but I get this incredibly powerful rising dread and there's always someone trying to break into the house.....then they ARE in and I'm powerless to stop them going for my kids (I can hear them climbing the stairs). It's quite fcuking appalling really. A bit better these days as when I wake up (for real) I now know to actually get up and walk about a bit before trying to sleep again. Seems to cause a break in the phenomenon, because I'm sure all you other sufferers have experienced the thinking you're awake, and then the horror of realising that it's still happening.....Brrrr, nasty sh1t.

    I always get auditory hallucinations with it too - a massive explosive noise, starting like white noise and then rushing towards a deafening explosion.

    My eldest has it now too - scared the crap out of him, so I showed him the research on it. Only remedy is to try not to get to a point of exhaustion, and then not hit the sack early enough. Happens mostly at between 1 and 3am for me.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,582 ✭✭✭✭kowloon


    I've had it a few times, some are worse than others. Once I thought I was having a fight with a fox, another time I thought I was drowning. When I snap out of it I can sometimes identify elements of the hallucination around me. The drowning one was in part caused by a flashing blue status light on a computer.


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