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For the love of the grape.

  • 27-05-2015 5:05pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,794 ✭✭✭Aongus Von Bismarck


    I'm currently sitting here in my apartment enjoying a glass of Reisling. It's my favourite type of wine, and this 2007 Monchhof Urzig Wurzgarten Kabinett is a stunning example of the style. You initially notice the fresh fruit flavours - white peach, pear, gooseberries, with just a hint of pepper. The finish is long and slightly chalky. It's smooth, but with just enough mineral nose to mark out the variety and style.

    There's a reputation in Ireland amongst a certain set that German wines aren't up to much - a reputation probably gained from listening to the older generation go on about Black Tower and dinner parties in the 80's. It's a shame that this reputation continues to exist, as the German viticulture movement is in really good shape at the moment, with many young producers making exciting wines. Rather like the burgeoning craft beer movement in Ireland.

    Do the good folk of AH have a favourite variety or style of wine? Do you fancy yourself as an amateur sommelier, or are you more the type who picks up a few bottles of Chateau De Topaz on the way home? Would you ever darken the door of your local Lidl if looking for a bottle to impress a potential lover, or are you happiest having a good chat with the owner of your local boutique off-licence looking for something unusual and exciting?


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  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 51,690 Mod ✭✭✭✭Stheno


    I'm currently sitting here in my apartment enjoying a glass of Reisling. It's my favourite type of wine, and this 2007 Monchhof Urzig Wurzgarten Kabinett is a stunning example of the style. You initially notice the fresh fruit flavours - white peach, pear, gooseberries, with just a hint of pepper. The finish is long and slightly chalky. It's smooth, but with just enough mineral nose to mark out the variety and style.

    There's a reputation in Ireland amongst a certain set that German wines aren't up to much - a reputation probably gained from listening to the older generation go on about Black Tower and dinner parties in the 80's. It's a shame that this reputation continues to exist, as the German viticulture movement is in really good shape at the moment, with many young producers making exciting wines. Rather like the burgeoning craft beer movement in Ireland.

    Do the good folk of AH have a favourite variety or style of wine? Do you fancy yourself as an amateur sommelier, or are you more the type who picks up a few bottles of Chateau De Topaz on the way home? Would you ever darken the door of your local Lidl if looking for a bottle to impress a potential lover, or are you happiest having a good chat with the owner of your local boutique off-licence looking for something unusual and exciting?

    There's a food and drink forum you know?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,281 ✭✭✭mackeire


    Pints of Smithwicks ONLY!!


  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 51,690 Mod ✭✭✭✭Stheno


    mackeire wrote: »
    Pints of Smithwicks ONLY!!

    I thought it was all about the Dutch Gold in here?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,281 ✭✭✭mackeire


    mackeire wrote: »
    Pints of Smithwicks ONLY!!

    And the odd Guinness ;)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,241 ✭✭✭✭Kovu


    Buckfast with one of those fancy umbrellas.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,740 ✭✭✭the evasion_kid


    MD 20\20 aka "mad dog"

    http://www.bumwine.com/md2020.html


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,618 ✭✭✭✭kneemos


    German wines are like French beer.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,380 ✭✭✭✭Banjo String


    6 x large bottles of perlenbacher, German Pilsner (so beer) from Lidl at €7 does me rightly.


    Wine hangovers can fcuk off tbh.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 84 ✭✭Matta Harri


    I love Black Tower.......


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,762 ✭✭✭✭Timberrrrrrrr


    I'm currently sitting here in my apartment enjoying a glass of Reisling. It's my favourite type of wine, and this 2007 Monchhof Urzig Wurzgarten Kabinett is a stunning example of the style. You initially notice the fresh fruit flavours - white peach, pear, gooseberries, with just a hint of pepper. The finish is long and slightly chalky. It's smooth, but with just enough mineral nose to mark out the variety and style.

    There's a reputation in Ireland amongst a certain set that German wines aren't up to much - a reputation probably gained from listening to the older generation go on about Black Tower and dinner parties in the 80's. It's a shame that this reputation continues to exist, as the German viticulture movement is in really good shape at the moment, with many young producers making exciting wines. Rather like the burgeoning craft beer movement in Ireland.

    Do the good folk of AH have a favourite variety or style of wine? Do you fancy yourself as an amateur sommelier, or are you more the type who picks up a few bottles of Chateau De Topaz on the way home? Would you ever darken the door of your local Lidl if looking for a bottle to impress a potential lover, or are you happiest having a good chat with the owner of your local boutique off-licence looking for something unusual and exciting?

    For someone who constantly boasts about his high power well paying job you sure like the cheap plonk.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 640 ✭✭✭Tony Beetroot


    Isn't Germany just great altogether.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,618 ✭✭✭✭kneemos


    Isn't Germany just great altogether.


    Can't win a war to save their lives though.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,299 ✭✭✭✭The Backwards Man


    All wine is pish, waste of good grapes.

    Grapes have one useful purpose, to make brandy.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,696 ✭✭✭Lisha


    Pinot Grigio is my favourite wine.
    Bellinis are my favourite cocktail.
    Bacardi and coke if out in a night club.
    Bottle (never ever a can) of Heineken for a drink at home.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,940 ✭✭✭maxwell smart


    On my monthly sojourn to Zurich I recently discovered a very respectable German wine. It was a 2008 Emrich-Schonleber Monzinger Halenberg Riesling.

    It was full of minerals but very balanced. I'd imagine it would benefit from some aging and be quite a sublime drink after several more years.

    Previous to this experience I had some very nice Alsace (which might as well be in Germany) Pinot Noir.

    I imagine most people think Nederburg is actually German!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,459 ✭✭✭Chucken




    Wine hangovers can fcuk off tbh.


    You're not meant to drink so much as to become hungover.


    Peasant.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,070 ✭✭✭✭pq0n1ct4ve8zf5


    I like Riesling and Rioja and something else I can't remember the name of, I don't really know that much about wine so beyond the price and the variety I'd never really pay that much attention to the label. More of a beer person, in general. Of course the good thing about wine is that if you come home to find you've bought a crap one you can just lob in some 7up or orange juice or something!


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 12,548 Mod ✭✭✭✭Amirani


    If I'm splurging, I'd generally go with a Cabernet-heavy left-bank Bordeaux. Haven't really developed a love of Pinot Noir at this point, so good Burgundy would be wasted on me.

    If I'm only spending modestly, I'll go with Tempranillo/Grenache from Rioja or an Argentinian Malbec.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,380 ✭✭✭✭Banjo String


    On my monthly sojourn to Zurich I recently discovered a very respectable German wine. It was a 2008 Emrich-Schonleber Monzinger Halenberg Riesling.

    It was full of minerals but very balanced. I'd imagine it would benefit from some aging and be quite a sublime drink after several more years.

    Previous to this experience I had some very nice Alsace (which might as well be in Germany) Pinot Noir.

    I imagine most people think Nederburg is actually German!!

    Like 7-up/fanta etc?

    Doesn't sound v appealing.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,338 ✭✭✭✭Cienciano


    Kovu wrote: »
    Buckfast with one of those fancy umbrellas.

    Buckfast? Ohh, la-di-da. Noblemans is where it's at these days


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,940 ✭✭✭maxwell smart


    Like 7-up/fanta etc?

    Doesn't sound v appealing.

    No not like 7up / fanta strangely enough


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 625 ✭✭✭130Kph


    When faced with challenging social situations in the past, I used to ask myself “What would Gerald Kean do?”

    But no longer - from now on, I’m on team Aongus Von Bismarck! ;)

    I’ve only savoured the piquancy of an Australian & South African Reisling and very good they were, so I will endeavour to source a German flavour before Summer’s end.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,459 ✭✭✭Chucken


    Chateau Lafite Rothschild 1982 is one of the greatest wines ever made, but is it really worth the price? How much better can it really be than any of the super-seconds from the same year, at a fraction of the price?

    Aongus?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,499 ✭✭✭porsche959


    That's a very fine Chardonnay you're not drinking, Chrissie.


  • Posts: 26,052 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    I don't drink but when I have to bring wine to a dinner party or something, I find out what's being served and tell the guys in the wine shop and they select a few to choose from. I know nothing about wine, and see no point in learning when I don't drink it and there's at least some expertise available.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,794 ✭✭✭Aongus Von Bismarck


    Chucken wrote: »
    Chateau Lafite Rothschild 1982 is one of the greatest wines ever made, but is it really worth the price? How much better can it really be than any of the super-seconds from the same year, at a fraction of the price?

    Aongus?

    You'd hardly pop open a bottle of any good 82 Bordeaux while sitting down to devour a Chinese and watch the X-Factor. Of course there is a premium to be paid for that sense of exclusivity and rarity. I doubt it matters to those who are buying and drinking the wine.

    I'm having a great example of the Reisling style for about €17. Is it the same as splashing out €150 for an extraordinary example of the style in a Michelin starred eatery? Of course not.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,299 ✭✭✭✭The Backwards Man


    Of course the best thing about wine is that brings even the most pretentious and grandiloquent of folks down to the level of gibbering, slobbering idiot if they cope enough of it into them.


  • Moderators, Regional East Moderators Posts: 23,239 Mod ✭✭✭✭GLaDOS


    I like red.

    I don't like white.

    Thus ends my knowledge of wine.

    Now beer, I could waffle on all day about that :)

    Cake, and grief counseling, will be available at the conclusion of the test



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,750 ✭✭✭fleet_admiral


    My favorite wine is a good mature St. James Gate 2015


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,802 ✭✭✭dmc17


    Hard to beat a good Spanish Red.....


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 27,944 ✭✭✭✭4zn76tysfajdxp


    I like my wine like I like my cranberry juice: red and in a carton.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,089 ✭✭✭✭LizT


    I like my wine like I like my cranberry juice: red and in a carton.

    and mixed with vodka.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,750 ✭✭✭fleet_admiral


    porsche959 wrote: »
    That's a very fine Chardonnay you're not drinking, Chrissie.
    Dont just stare at it, eat it


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,197 ✭✭✭Eutow


    I like red wine, hate white. My knowledge ends there. I like good beer.


  • Posts: 0 CMod ✭✭✭✭ Maddux Gentle Seam


    Don't like wine
    Rosé champagne maybe

    Sekt is alright with orange juice after a few cocktails...


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  • Posts: 0 CMod ✭✭✭✭ Maddux Gentle Seam


    Candie wrote: »
    I don't drink but when I have to bring wine to a dinner party or something, I find out what's being served and tell the guys in the wine shop and they select a few to choose from. I know nothing about wine, and see no point in learning when I don't drink it and there's at least some expertise available.

    I bring chocs. Everyone loves ferrero


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,436 ✭✭✭c_man


    I do well for myself in life so do frequently go for the E12.99 bottle of wine. If it's a special occasion or I want to pair it with an extra nice meal, I'll splash out on the E15.99 bottle of wine.

    I once had a glass of a E45.00 bottle of wine. It was amazing. It was red.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,166 ✭✭✭Fr_Dougal


    Alcohol is not the answer, Aongus.


  • Moderators, Regional East Moderators Posts: 23,239 Mod ✭✭✭✭GLaDOS


    Anyone else think Champagne is nasty and feel like a weirdo when other people seem to think it's a treat when celebrating?

    Cake, and grief counseling, will be available at the conclusion of the test



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 27,944 ✭✭✭✭4zn76tysfajdxp


    Fr_Dougal wrote: »
    Alcohol is not the answer, Aongus.

    Definitely seems "clinically fed up."


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  • Posts: 0 CMod ✭✭✭✭ Maddux Gentle Seam


    Anyone else think Champagne is nasty and feel like a weirdo when other people seem to think it's a treat when celebrating?

    Cheap champagne is nasty
    Although I like moet rose which is in the "slightly less cheap" category if that ...
    Be curious to try the proper fancy ones sometime!


  • Posts: 26,052 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    bluewolf wrote: »
    I bring chocs. Everyone loves ferrero

    My go-to treat for Embassy dos.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,459 ✭✭✭Chucken


    What about Fetzer Coldwater Creek? It is the first wine to be served ‘on tap’ like beer from JD Wetherspoon pubs. You could, theoretically, put good wine on tap, but as a rule of thumb, the more a vessel deviates from a 750mL capacity, the worse its contents. On that scale, a 115 litre keg foreshadows a dismal beverage. This is truly awful stuff.

    Aongus?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 27,944 ✭✭✭✭4zn76tysfajdxp


    Candie wrote: »
    My go-to treat for Embassy dos.

    The Ambassador(s) must love you.


  • Posts: 26,052 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    The Ambassador(s) must love you.

    Don't be explaining my jokes Wynter Hallowed Unicorn!

    Hope you're freezing :(


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 509 ✭✭✭Not G.R


    I don't think malted barley, fresh water, carefully chosen yeast and aromatic hops will ever be beaten. Keep yer French swill :P


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 27,944 ✭✭✭✭4zn76tysfajdxp


    Candie wrote: »
    Don't be explaining my jokes Frada!

    Hope you're freezing :(

    Got a 5l box of Tesco Value red in the freezer now for later.


    It's gonna be a long night. ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,197 ✭✭✭Eutow


    Anyone else think Champagne is nasty and feel like a weirdo when other people seem to think it's a treat when celebrating?


    Yes, I would rather have a quad or double imperial stout.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,628 ✭✭✭Señor Fancy Pants


    Me and wine aren't talking to each other since the "incident" in 2008.

    Ribena is where it's at.


  • Posts: 26,052 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Got a 5l box of Tesco Value red in the freezer now for later.


    It's gonna be a long night. ;)

    For all of us.


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