Baldoyle to Portmarnock Walkway

Dub13

I do a lot of running and cycling out here and its a shame there is no walkway from Baldoyle to Portmarnock, the road is in fact dangerous to cycle on and has no footpath. Its such a waste as the other walkway's in the area are well used and this is like the missing link.

Has there ever been plan for this or is the ground not suitable or something..?

ninebeanrows

There was talk recently of a path/cycle way. Not 100% but pretty sure there is something planned.

Dub13

Weathercheck wrote: »

There was talk recently of a path/cycle way. Not 100% but pretty sure there is something planned.

That's great news, hopefully something comes of it.

neris

Weathercheck wrote: »

There was talk recently of a path/cycle way. Not 100% but pretty sure there is something planned.

there is somthing planned but think it could be a while away yet. there was mention of a swords to sutton cycleway and this would be part of it

Dub13

neris wrote: »

there is somthing planned but think it could be a while away yet. there was mention of a swords to sutton cycleway and this would be part of it

I am surprised it has never been done before, some bad roads on this route.

whiskeyman

So much potential for this.
would be great for tourists to cycle from Clontarf to Howth / Portmarnock.
It's an awful road for cyclists to be on.

Some day perhaps...

Davy

http://meetings.fingal.ie/documents/s14252/Item%20No%204%20-Sutton%20to%20Swords%20Cycle%20Route.pdf

Dub13

Davy wrote: »

http://meetings.fingal.ie/documents/s14252/Item%20No%204%20-Sutton%20to%20Swords%20Cycle%20Route.pdf

That's super news, lets hope it goes ahead.

neris

so planning application only been lodged in next while, mid july planning granted if theres no objections which im sure with the estuary etc there,ll be some do gooders/NIMBYs lodging objections, then tender for builder has to be issued. Could be 2016 or 2017 before anything in the way of building works start on this

Dub13

Something in the northside people about this last week, I did not see it myself was just told about it.

Davy

Dub13 wrote: »

Something in the northside people about this last week, I did not see it myself was just told about it.

Iirc it got approved and funding sorted for first phase. Work starts this summer, it will be on the land side and not the estuary side for environmental impact.

vg88

Davy wrote: »

Dub13 wrote: »

Something in the northside people about this last week, I did not see it myself was just told about it.

Iirc it got approved and funding sorted for first phase. Work starts this summer, it will be on the land side and not the estuary side for environmental impact.

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The Local Authority have finally approved funding for the long awaited cycleway set to go from Malahide to Sutton across Malahide Estuary. The development is known as the Broadmeadow Way and will provide a pedestrian and cycle way between Malahide and Sutton.
This has been on the table for a number of years and Councillors have been pushing for movement on it for some time now.
Speaking to the County Leader, local Green Party Councillor, David Healy said; It is good that this section has been prioritised and that it is proceeding rapidly. What seems to have happened is that responsibility for this seems to have moved quite often due to people changing jobs in the council its self, and that seems to have slowed things down.
He concluded by saying; For now though I am happy that it has been recognised as a priority and that the council have responded to the public s request for movement on it. This has been on the agenda for four years and we were all quite surprised that it has taken this long to become a priority for the council. It is part of a broader plan and we can only hope that the rest of the plan doesn t take as long as this part did. I m just happy for now to see it moving.
Design has already begun for the Baldoyle to Portmarnock cycleway which is the first part of a larger Coastal Walking and Cycling route that will connect the whole of the North County and will serve as a massive tourist attraction upon its completion.
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Hollister11

Dub13 wrote: »

I do a lot of running and cycling out here and its a shame there is no walkway from Baldoyle to Portmarnock, the road is in fact dangerous to cycle on and has no footpath. Its such a waste as the other walkway's in the area are well used and this is like the missing link.

Has there ever been plan for this or is the ground not suitable or something..?

There a plans to build a path over the baldoyle racecourse

expectationlost

there was discussion about it on the 4th of May Howth Malahide council meeting

Singer

http://www.independent.ie/regionals/fingalindependent/news/cycleway-and-path-finally-on-the-way-35042423.html

A long-awaited footpath and cycleway from Baldoyle to Portmarnock should be provided by mid-October next year, according to Fingal County Council, who updated local councillors on the project at a meeting of the Malahide/Howth Area Committee.

...

The preparation of the tender documentation for this project is currently underway, according to the council and should be ready by the end of this month, with the project likely to be completed by the middle of October, next year.

Dub13

Great news

neris

not sure if its related but theres an article in the indo today about an application been lodged for the development of the coast sites that planning lapsed on, wonder are they using any money paid by the developers to get started on this walkway

http://www.independent.ie/news/revealed-massive-new-homes-project-is-planned-for-site-abandoned-in-2007-35091300.html

tricky D

Passed yesterday and there was a mechanical digger clearing scrub on the coastal side between Moyne and the roundabout and opposite the Dublin Airport outer marker beacon site. Looks like it had started yesterday.

vg88

tricky D wrote: »

Passed yesterday and there was a mechanical digger clearing scrub on the coastal side between Moyne and the roundabout and opposite the Dublin Airport outer marker beacon site. Looks like it had started yesterday.

Is the path to be in the inner side of the road where the new fences are or the outer part where the sea is?

Davy

moloner4 wrote: »

Is the path to be in the inner side of the road where the new fences are or the outer part where the sea is?

Land side due to EIS

hidinginthebush

I saw it in another thread here, but the works on the seaward side are intended to create a space for the brent geese that migrate in every year. The path is intended to be on the land side of the road.

tricky D

Perhaps clearing coastal side will be for something ancillary. Any one know of any map for this? Cant find one myself and curious as to how they'll deal with the Outer Marker which is pretty much an unmovable object.

vg88

Will the cycle way then head into portmarnock village or will it go with the back roads to malahide?

ccull123

Any update on this ?

Singer

http://www.independent.ie/regionals/fingalindependent/localnotes/coastal-route-is-advancing-35692141.html

Engineering consultants have been appointed to work on the delivery of a crucial piece of Fingal's developing coastal walkway and cycleway, by linking Portmarnock and Baldoyle.

All of that plus weather considerations means the spring of 2018 is the most likely time for construction to begin on the project

So... sometime late next year?

Dub13

That's great news, let's hope it does not slip.

thelord

What impact will this have on wildlife ? Special Areas of Conservation (SACs) are set out under the European Habitats Directive Baldoyle Bay. I was at the meeting and the Locals are very keen to protect the Natural beauty of the Area.

vg88

thelord wrote: »

What impact will this have on wildlife ? Special Areas of Conservation (SACs) are set out under the European Habitats Directive Baldoyle Bay. I was at the meeting and the Locals are very keen to protect the Natural beauty of the Area.

I was under the impression it wouldn't go through any wild life parts, just the farms.

thelord

moloner4 wrote: »

I was under the impression it wouldn't go through any wild life parts, just the farms.

I hope your correct but i got the idea it was was going parellel to the coast road right the way along so would cut along the Special Areas of Conservation

McAlban

thelord wrote: »

I hope your correct but i got the idea it was was going parellel to the coast road right the way along so would cut along the Special Areas of Conservation

Isn't the SAC for the Nesting Bird population actually out in the Estuary? and not on land at all. A Problem we have in this country is building anything even remotely close to a Heritage site or SAC. which delays anything getting built.

thelord

McAlban wrote: »

Isn't the SAC for the Nesting Bird population actually out in the Estuary? and not on land at all. A Problem we have in this country is building anything even remotely close to a Heritage site or SAC. which delays anything getting built.

THe Area with Gorse Bushes and Grassland around it is also part of the SAC. Lapwings nest there and also a rare plant Barley grass grows there.

Fiolina

Does anyone have any update on the proposed cycleway?

plodder

Public consultation taking place Tue/Wed/Thu this week

http://www.dublincycling.com/cycling/sutton-malahide-greenway-information-evenings

plodder

More information at https://consult.fingal.ie/en/consultation/sutton-malahide-greenway/

The images shown on the individual pages are hard to read, but there are links under "Materials" to high-resolution PDF files that are much better.

By the way, the above consultation is about all of the Malahide to Sutton route except for the Portmarnock/Baldoyle link, which is a separate scheme that is further advanced. Apparently, that plan is going to Bord Pleanala very soon.

dak

Planning Granted by An Bord Pleanala . Work due to start next year!

site_owner

thats great news!

i heard mentioned a plan to create a quietway from the coast at bayside, thru bayside estate, under bayside dart station, across seagrange park and racecourse park and out onto red arches road to connect with the new greenway also.

Singer

Construction has started, due for completion by October 19th!

https://twitter.com/fingalcoco/status/1154429690179964929?s=21

thelord

Destroying Habitat and Nature

Duckjob

thelord wrote: »

Destroying Habitat and Nature

I take it you're equally vociferous about the hundreds of kms of motorways being laid around the country this and every year?

Alternative is to give higher proportion of road space over to non-car people to be able to get safely from A to B.

Or, if its a genuine ecological concern, lets stop building roads and actually start filling in existing roads and give them back to nature and only have a barest-bones network of roads.

thelord

Duckjob wrote: »

I take it you're equally vociferous about the hundreds of kms of motorways being laid around the country this and every year?

Alternative is to give higher proportion of road space over to non-car people to be able to get safely from A to B.

Or, if its a genuine ecological concern, lets stop building roads and actually start filling in existing roads and give them back to nature and only have a barest-bones network of roads.

This is not a road its a greenway but its being bulit ontop of the green. its only purpose is so a load of fat middle aged men in lycra can cyle from portmarknock.


Most locals dont want it built

easygoing39

I was down the Widows yesterday and lots of the locals think its a great idea.

rushfan

thelord wrote:

This is not a road its a greenway but its being bulit ontop of the green. its only purpose is so a load of fat middle aged men in lycra can cyle from portmarknock.

So it's only for fat middle aged men cycling from Portmarnock? Would it be for any other kind of cyclists maybe? Or is the issue here to do with cyclists in general?

Duckjob

thelord wrote: »

This is not a road its a greenway but its being bulit ontop of the green. its only purpose is so a load of fat middle aged men in lycra can cyle from portmarknock.


Most locals dont want it built

And there is is... the real motivation comes out.

It turns out a lot of people are getting fed up being a slave to the motor car to get around anywhere safely in this country. Many of those people are very ready to embrace a more modern Ireland where people get out more by sustainable means, and are more healthy and happy so that they don't have to spend their time obsessing over middle aged mens lycra clad arses.

lapua20grain

thelord wrote: »

This is not a road its a greenway but its being bulit ontop of the green. its only purpose is so a load of fat middle aged men in lycra can cyle from portmarknock.


Most locals dont want it built

I am a local and have been for 47 years and I think it is long overdue and coincidentally so does everybody I know, they think it will be a great facility for those that want to cycle with their kids in a safer environment between the 2 towns. The general feeling in Baldoyle is that this an amenity that should have been built years ago.

Hal3000

thelord wrote: »

This is not a road its a greenway but its being bulit ontop of the green. its only purpose is so a load of fat middle aged men in lycra can cyle from portmarknock.


Most locals dont want it built

Why didn't these locals protest then? At least the fat middle age me in lycra get out and about instead of sitting on their arse on a forum whinging.

thelord

Its a sad country where nobady cares nature and wildlife

Dizzyblonde

thelord I'm beginning to think you're trolling. Be warned that it won't be tolerated in this forum.

lawred2

I'm a big fan of greenways and they are brilliant for families and young ones cycling however I would fear that this stretch could become a speedway for the lads and their teenage dreams of riding in the peloton

Dub13

lawred2 wrote: »

I'm a big fan of greenways and they are brilliant for families and young ones cycling however I would fear that this stretch could become a speedway for the lads and their teenage dreams of riding in the peloton

At least the cycle path is a little be away from the walking part.

lawred2

Dub13 wrote: »

At least the cycle path is a little be away from the walking part.

I'd hope so

Duckjob

lawred2 wrote: »

I'm a big fan of greenways and they are brilliant for families and young ones cycling however I would fear that this stretch could become a speedway for the lads and their teenage dreams of riding in the peloton

As long as they regulate their actions according to how busy the stretch is and everyone shows a bit of respect and regard for others I don't see an issue.

Some people are cocks regardless of how they're getting around, but if the path is used extensively by people of all ages and abilities, I think any cockish bahaviour will get regulated organically.