Streaming Cam. How to show it with out logging on to it?

markmurphy

Hi all.

Friend and I set up a streaming web cam for the crack.

I have opened ports and all that lark. But you have to log on to see it and it only works with internet explorer browser.

Any ideas how to just go to the web page and view it with out logging on?(html 5 or flash player?):)

Thanks.

www.mtleinster.eu

ps: don't change the password please! Cause Ill only have to reset it!

ozmo

Periscope is all the rage- maybe look for a pc app that reads from the camera and rebroadcasts to this?

markmurphy

ozmo wrote: »

Periscope is all the rage- maybe look for a pc app that reads from the camera and rebroadcasts to this?

humm...only for apple...need a html5 or flash player thingy...
no loggin on...

Batzoo

Microsoft Expression Encoder 4 I believe may be able to do what you are looking for. I have never had need to try it, but the express version is free to download and play about with, so only investment will be your time.


https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/download/details.aspx?id=18974

Xterminator

yawcam.

markmurphy

Xterminator wrote: »

yawcam.

well what do ya want?

dancing cows?!

Im protecting the privacy of all houses in area !

markmurphy

Batzoo wrote: »

Microsoft Expression Encoder 4 I believe may be able to do what you are looking for. I have never had need to try it, but the express version is free to download and play about with, so only investment will be your time.


https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/download/details.aspx?id=18974

nice one. But I figured it out.

Had to add users to built in software. Now they can only view it, and not edit the settings !

But thanks.

markmurphy

markmurphy wrote: »

well what do ya want?

dancing cows?!

Im protecting the privacy of all houses in area !

oh and..

lots of things going on.

25 millions being spent on the building of the new walsh whiskey factory (behind the trees, but ya see it in winter!).

River barrow....and few yokes!

ozmo

markmurphy wrote: »

well what do ya want? dancing cows?!

Not sure if you took it up wrong (yawncam?) - but he is suggesting http://www.yawcam.com not slagging you

markmurphy

NEW problem!

Is there any way I can have the "user" in the ip address?

http://86.45.40.12:8080
(goes to log in page)

anyway to have the username included in that ?
(bypass the login page?)

such as

http://86.45.40.12:8080/user

so I can bypass the login in screen? the user name is user with no password.

Thanks.

ozmo

markmurphy wrote: »

NEW problem!

Is there any way I can .. bypass the login page?

yes you can. there are two ways it could be expecting the username - either "GET" ie. passed in the URL -

its more common to "POST" though so its not visible in the browser bar- but sometime software will accept either.

For GET you need to know the ???=password

For POST - you need set up a <form action=...></form> on your website.

If you can get the Webcam online - I can send you the exact parameters to put in either - but the camera seems off at the moment (port forwarding issue?).

markmurphy

ozmo wrote: »

yes you can. there are two ways it could be expecting the username - either "GET" ie. passed in the URL -

its more common to "POST" though so its not visible in the browser bar- but sometime software will accept either.

For GET you need to know the ???=password

For POST - you need set up a <form action=...></form> on your website.

If you can get the Webcam online - I can send you the exact parameters to put in either - but the camera seems off at the moment (port forwarding issue?).

ok cool.

So what code do i need exactly for my page? the login is "user" and there is no password.

thanks. a lot.

www.mtleinster.eu

markmurphy

ozmo wrote: »

yes you can. there are two ways it could be expecting the username - either "GET" ie. passed in the URL -

its more common to "POST" though so its not visible in the browser bar- but sometime software will accept either.

For GET you need to know the ???=password

For POST - you need set up a <form action=...></form> on your website.

If you can get the Webcam online - I can send you the exact parameters to put in either - but the camera seems off at the moment (port forwarding issue?).

the camera is off? No its not. What browser did you use? only works with Internet explorer...or on the phone. Its up and running past 24 hours. I checked the logs.

ozmo

markmurphy wrote: »

the camera is off? No its not. What browser did you use? only works with Internet explorer...or on the phone. Its up and running past 24 hours. I checked the logs.

http://86.45.40.12:8080

Tried from two locations (two different pcs) - last night and just right now - tried IE - it just says page timed out.
Looks like the port is not forwarded correctly.

Use this maybe? to check its visible for everyone (and not just anyone connected to your wifi):

http://downforeveryoneorjustme.com/http://86.45.40.12:8080/


Also - I looked at some of these cams before - and they all had an alternative to downloading software and play video - a script that you call to get the last jpg file - so you could just call that on a 10 second timer on the webpage- like what the dublin traffic webcams do.

markmurphy

ozmo wrote: »

http://86.45.40.12:8080

Tried from two locations (two different pcs) - last night and just right now - tried IE - it just says page timed out.
Looks like the port is not forwarded correctly.

Use this maybe? to check its visible for everyone (and not just anyone connected to your wifi):

http://downforeveryoneorjustme.com/http://86.45.40.12:8080/


Also - I looked at some of these cams before - and they all had an alternative to downloading software and play video - a script that you call to get the last jpg file - so you could just call that on a 10 second timer on the webpage- like what the dublin traffic webcams do.

Thanks for you help! I changed the port from 8080 to 15001 (just made up!). Seems to be working now..will you try it please? I just checked the port 15001 and its open. Will you see can you see it now? Thanks a lot.

M.

markmurphy

markmurphy wrote: »

Thanks for you help! I changed the port from 8080 to 15001 (just made up!). Seems to be working now..will you try it please? I just checked the port 15001 and its open. Will you see can you see it now? Thanks a lot.

M.

OMG....now its not working at all...WTF?

ozmo

Are you sure you are doing the port fording on the router correctly?

You need loginto your internet router and specify that port goes to the ip of the camera.

Upc/eircom have different routers so google if you are unsure- but its usually fairly easy.

http://portforward.com

Test using a phone Not on the same wifi( turn off wifi and use 3g)

markmurphy

ozmo wrote: »

Are you sure you are doing the port fording on the router correctly?

You need loginto your internet router and specify that port goes to the ip of the camera.

Upc/eircom have different routers so google if you are unsure- but its usually fairly easy.

http://portforward.com

Test using a phone Not on the same wifi( turn off wifi and use 3g)

Yeah. port forward is ok. I used it before for a cctv system. All working perfect.

Since I changed port from 8080 to 15001 its not working.

markmurphy

ozmo wrote: »

Are you sure you are doing the port fording on the router correctly?

You need loginto your internet router and specify that port goes to the ip of the camera.

Upc/eircom have different routers so google if you are unsure- but its usually fairly easy.

http://portforward.com

Test using a phone Not on the same wifi( turn off wifi and use 3g)

Thanks for help. Can you try it now ? on port 8089.
here are my settings.

http://86.45.40.12:8089 (internet explorer ONLY browser).
Login in is "user" and no password.

Thanks.

ozmo

That seems work ok!

Im out right now but I will look at whats possible when i get back home later tonight.

markmurphy

ozmo wrote: »

That seems work ok!

Im out right now but I will look at whats possible when i get back home later tonight.

nice 1!!

would be good if could send in the user name and "press enter" in the url rather than getting users to do it....so when ya click, it just pops up and streams !

Thanks again.

M.

ozmo

Here is the code - its a button you press which will move you to the camera site and log you in.

<!-- a button that will auto log you in -->
<form action="http://86.45.40.12:8089/Login.htm" id="pass-login-form" name="pass-login-form" method="post">
	<input type="hidden" name="command" value="login"/>
	<input type="hidden" id="username" name="username"  value="user" />
	<input type="hidden" id="password" name="password"  value="" />
	<button id='loginBT' type="submit" >Go!</button>
</form>

and this version, if you prefer, will jump you to the site as soon as the page loads

<!-- immediately transfers you to the camera and logs you in when the page loads -->
<form action="http://86.45.40.12:8089/Login.htm" id="pass-login-form" name="pass-login-form" method="post">
	<input type="hidden" name="command" value="login"/>
	<input type="hidden" id="username" name="username"  value="user" />
	<input type="hidden" id="password" name="password"  value="" />
</form>

<script LANGUAGE="javascript">
document.forms[0].submit();
</script>

It doesnt seem to support the other thing I mentioned - the Onvif standard (link) which is a pity - as that one you dont need to install any activex stuff to work as you can select to get just still images rather than a video.

tags: device reports itself as a "NetSurveillance" "V4.02.R12.00006510.10010.1403" build date:"2015/3/17 9:44:44" software developers name "duchangjiang"

markmurphy

ozmo wrote: »

Here is the code - its a button you press which will move you to the camera site and log you in.

<!-- a button that will auto log you in -->
<form action="http://86.45.40.12:8089/Login.htm" id="pass-login-form" name="pass-login-form" method="post">
	<input type="hidden" name="command" value="login"/>
	<input type="hidden" id="username" name="username"  value="user" />
	<input type="hidden" id="password" name="password"  value="" />
	<button id='loginBT' type="submit" >Go!</button>
</form>

and this version, if you prefer, will jump you to the site as soon as the page loads

<!-- immediately transfers you to the camera and logs you in when the page loads -->
<form action="http://86.45.40.12:8089/Login.htm" id="pass-login-form" name="pass-login-form" method="post">
	<input type="hidden" name="command" value="login"/>
	<input type="hidden" id="username" name="username"  value="user" />
	<input type="hidden" id="password" name="password"  value="" />
</form>

<script LANGUAGE="javascript">
document.forms[0].submit();
</script>

It doesnt seem to support the other thing I mentioned - the Onvif standard (link) which is a pity - as that one you dont need to install any activex stuff to work as you can select to get just still images rather than a video.

tags: device reports itself as a "NetSurveillance" "V4.02.R12.00006510.10010.1403" build date:"2015/3/17 9:44:44" software developers name "duchangjiang"

Omg ! Thanks a lot. I'm using a web site builder. So hopefully I can use this.

I'll check all this out tomorrow.

Thanks.

M.

markmurphy

markmurphy wrote: »

Omg ! Thanks a lot. I'm using a web site builder. So hopefully I can use this.

I'll check all this out tomorrow.

Thanks.

M.

Course I could get a better cam ? Direct ip one ?

M.

fr336

Well I've gone through the ordeal of both using Internet Explorer and downloading Quicktime and I'm getting a blank screen :P Hopefully will work soon though, thanks for doing it.

markmurphy

markmurphy wrote: »

Course I could get a better cam ? Direct ip one ?

M.

But I think if lots people log on. It will affect my bandwidth ? The cloud thing with xmeye you can log on same user. wonder ..

I like the steaming. At high fps.

Anyway. Tomorrow ! sleep time !

markmurphy

fr336 wrote: »

Well I've gone through the ordeal of both using Internet Explorer and downloading Quicktime and I'm getting a blank screen :P Hopefully will work soon though, thanks for doing it.

Hu ?

I tested it on different networks. Working prefect at moment. Can you not see the video ?

Spider is building a web ! Only can see some lights at present.

But it's working fine.

M.

markmurphy

markmurphy wrote: »

Hu ?

I tested it on different networks. Working prefect at moment. Can you not see the video ?

Spider is building a web ! Only can see some lights at present.

But it's working fine.

M.

Also try the smart phone app. Working nicely now.

M.

markmurphy

ozmo wrote: »

Here is the code - its a button you press which will move you to the camera site and log you in.

<!-- a button that will auto log you in -->
<form action="http://86.45.40.12:8089/Login.htm" id="pass-login-form" name="pass-login-form" method="post">
	<input type="hidden" name="command" value="login"/>
	<input type="hidden" id="username" name="username"  value="user" />
	<input type="hidden" id="password" name="password"  value="" />
	<button id='loginBT' type="submit" >Go!</button>
</form>

and this version, if you prefer, will jump you to the site as soon as the page loads

<!-- immediately transfers you to the camera and logs you in when the page loads -->
<form action="http://86.45.40.12:8089/Login.htm" id="pass-login-form" name="pass-login-form" method="post">
	<input type="hidden" name="command" value="login"/>
	<input type="hidden" id="username" name="username"  value="user" />
	<input type="hidden" id="password" name="password"  value="" />
</form>

<script LANGUAGE="javascript">
document.forms[0].submit();
</script>

It doesnt seem to support the other thing I mentioned - the Onvif standard (link) which is a pity - as that one you dont need to install any activex stuff to work as you can select to get just still images rather than a video.

tags: device reports itself as a "NetSurveillance" "V4.02.R12.00006510.10010.1403" build date:"2015/3/17 9:44:44" software developers name "duchangjiang"

OK! I stuck the button on the main page.
See it below on the main page. It seems to redirect all right, and log in. But no video comes up?
The normal, main view or extra view prompt does not come up either. (if you just clink the link).

I'll fiddle around.

M.

ozmo

markmurphy wrote: »

OK! I stuck the button on the main page.
See it below on the main page. It seems to redirect all right, and log in. But no video comes up?
The normal, main view or extra view prompt does not come up either. (if you just clink the link).

I'll fiddle around.

M.

Its not the ideal way to have a camera for a public site to be honest.


Are you sure there is no option in the camera to upload snapshots to an ftp or webserver or cloud? Most cameras I would have thought have that option.

So - the best setup would be for a camera to upload an image to a web site (cloud/ftp/your website) every 5 to 15 seconds or so. Then your webserver can dish this out as a standard jpg image to lots of users at the same time without them having to install any stuff.
Its best if the camera can do this all itself rather than have a pc with software installed to do it - as its quite difficult (and expensive) to have another pc reliably running forever doing this task.

markmurphy

ozmo wrote: »

Its not the ideal way to have a camera for a public site to be honest.


Are you sure there is no option in the camera to upload snapshots to an ftp or webserver or cloud? Most cameras I would have thought have that option.

So - the best setup would be for a camera to upload an image to a web site (cloud/ftp/your website) every 5 to 15 seconds or so. Then your webserver can dish this out as a standard jpg image to lots of users at the same time without them having to install any stuff.
Its best if the camera can do this all itself rather than have a pc with software installed to do it - as its quite difficult (and expensive) to have another pc reliably running forever doing this task.

Check personal message!

M.

markmurphy

Just made it much easier to see the live feed!

check out http://www.mtleinster.eu !
Especially on smart phones.

M.