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The God dont matter referendum

  • 21-05-2015 4:47pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 375 ✭✭


    So how are you going to vote in the same sex "marriage" referendum?
    Because thats basically what the referendum is,
    God is against same sex marriage and if you vote yes you are basically saying God is of no consequence.

    And if God is of no consequence then why should normal people ever bother getting baptised? or make communion or confirmation? or get married or have last rights.

    Lets not forget all the good the cathlic church has done for this country while gays have done nothing but embarrass us.

    Dont be fooled into thinking that a vote for sodomy is a civilised decision because it isnt.
    If the yes side wins tomorrow and it probably will thanks to help from the media and GLEN then it will be a sin against mankind and a sin against everything our forefathers believed in.
    Dont spit on the people who came before us and dont spit on God.

    Make the right decision,


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,628 ✭✭✭Señor Fancy Pants


    God is dog backwards, just think about it preachy

    Also, can you provide a link to the actual proof that this God guy exists and has a problem with this.

    Thaaaanks


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,204 ✭✭✭fiachr_a


    If you think tomorrow's bad wait for the multiple marriages referendum.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,342 ✭✭✭Whosthis


    macker33 wrote: »
    So how are you going to vote in the same sex "marriage" referendum?
    Because thats basically what the referendum is,
    God is against same sex marriage and if you vote yes you are basically saying God is of no consequence.

    And if God is of no consequence then why should normal people ever bother getting baptised? or make communion or confirmation? or get married or have last rights.

    Lets not forget all the good the cathlic church has done for this country while gays have done nothing but embarrass us.

    Dont be fooled into thinking that a vote for sodomy is a civilised decision because it isnt.
    If the yes side wins tomorrow and it probably will thanks to help from the media and GLEN then it will be a sin against mankind and a sin against everything our forefathers believed in.
    Dont spit on the people who came before us and dont spit on God.

    Make the right decision,

    **** off.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,117 ✭✭✭✭Junkyard Tom


    God doesn't play dice.

    Bob Marley.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,466 ✭✭✭Anesthetize


    *yawn*


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,248 ✭✭✭✭BoJack Horseman


    Jesus, who never married & spent all day hanging out with his all male pals sez....

    Vote 'Yes!'


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,521 ✭✭✭bobmalooka


    Which forefathers exactly? Pearse was a great man and was fond of the flute.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 375 ✭✭macker33


    fiachr_a wrote: »
    If you think tomorrow's bad wait for the multiple marriages referendum.

    if yes goes through then why not?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,358 ✭✭✭Into The Blue


    macker33 wrote: »
    And if God is of no consequence then why should normal people ever bother getting baptised? or make communion or confirmation? or get married or have last rights.

    Make the right decision,

    The holys don't have the monopoly on marriage.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,233 ✭✭✭joeguevara


    Jesus had two da's and he was grand....since when did God every say he was against same sex marriage? Was he on the tv? Thinking you might be mixing up the church (which is the people) with God.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,328 ✭✭✭Magico Gonzalez


    You seem nice.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,074 ✭✭✭pmasterson95


    AH doesn't like the church man. Posting that here. May god have mercy on your soul.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 24,465 ✭✭✭✭darkpagandeath


    1 out of 10...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,228 ✭✭✭podgemonster


    Thread Locked in 3...2....1....


  • Posts: 26,052 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    macker33 wrote: »
    So how are you going to vote in the same sex "marriage" referendum?
    Because thats basically what the referendum is,
    God is against same sex marriage and if you vote yes you are basically saying God is of no consequence.

    And if God is of no consequence then why should normal people ever bother getting baptised? or make communion or confirmation? or get married or have last rights.

    Lets not forget all the good the cathlic church has done for this country while gays have done nothing but embarrass us.

    Dont be fooled into thinking that a vote for sodomy is a civilised decision because it isnt.
    If the yes side wins tomorrow and it probably will thanks to help from the media and GLEN then it will be a sin against mankind and a sin against everything our forefathers believed in.
    Dont spit on the people who came before us and dont spit on God.

    Make the right decision,

    You would imagine, since you believe your God made us all in his image and apparently loves us all equally, that his followers here on dry land would be able to find it in themselves to at least try to do the same.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,397 ✭✭✭✭Birneybau


    THERE IS NO GOD!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,750 ✭✭✭fleet_admiral


    I am voting no for my own reasons. The amount of abuse I have taken for telling people, some I regarded as friends has been shocking


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,999 ✭✭✭GhostInTheRuins


    We don't need a referendum to say that God doesn't matter, sure he's been noticeably absent for the last ~2000 years it seems, so clearly he's not bothered himself.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,948 ✭✭✭gizmo555


    I'm voting no, and my reasons have nothing whatever to do with God or religion, so yes, God don't matter


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,430 ✭✭✭✭looksee


    Just assuming for a minute that the OP is making a genuine point, rather than just winding everyone, OP could you give us your basis for claiming that god is against same sex marriage?

    And while you are doing that, can you tell us what this referendum has to do with religion anyway? Its a civil marriage that is being discussed, nothing to do with god or religion.

    As for sodomy, (or as a very religious lady said to me, it will make buggery legal! It is already legal!) what has it to do with you, what consenting adults do in the privacy of their own homes?

    And you ask a very good question about why people should be baptised, or have first communion or whatever, yes, why should they? If you want to follow this route, fair enough, your business, but don't try and inflict your views on everyone. This referendum is absolutely nothing to do with god.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,807 ✭✭✭Custardpi


    if you vote yes you are basically saying God is of no consequence.

    That's the main reason I'm voting yes anyway. Insightful analysis. Now you'll have to excuse me, I'm off to sacrifice a bull to Zeus.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,661 ✭✭✭fxotoole


    Seeing as this referendum is about civil (non-religious) marriage, then the religious zealots should stfu and let people vote regardless of what the Catholic Church thinks.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,336 ✭✭✭wendell borton


    What would Jesus do?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,089 ✭✭✭henryporter


    Late entry for dumbest Marriage Equality Referendum thread - pretty lame attempt, trying to subvert real thoughts on real peoples lives with the old "God's not happy about this" argument.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 509 ✭✭✭murphm45


    Your argument is fundamentally flawed, the reason being your assuming the church and state definition of marriage are one in the same. They're not. The key differentiation being divorce.

    I'd like to think of myself as a relatively devout catholic and while I'm not 100% sure on how I'll vote yet I don't think I'm turning my back on God if I choose to vote yes. By voting no purely for the"good doesn't like it" reason I'm forcing my beliefs on others which I don't see as Christian.

    Anyway AH response - troll much op?!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,248 ✭✭✭✭BoJack Horseman


    What would Jesus do?

    He absolutely would vote 'Yes' as per his teachings.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,204 ✭✭✭fiachr_a


    What would Jesus do?
    He'd allow gay marriage and then create a miracle where two people of the same sex can have a baby together. That would be real equality!


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 59 ✭✭Trojan Donkey


    I'm voting NO. Because voting Yes won't get equality for everyone. Everyone has the right to marry a person of the opposite sex. A man has the right to marry a woman and vice verse. Giving people the right to marry the same sex is like someone winning €1 million in the lottery and then turning around and saying that they don't want that they want €2 million.

    Another reason is that if the Yes votes win, a child having two dads could lead to confusion, bullying, embarrassment, depression and maybe suicide. I don't want that to happen to people.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,560 ✭✭✭✭salmocab


    If God is against Gay marriage he can vote no tomorrow, if he's not registered to vote thats his problem and he should have checked the register.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,619 ✭✭✭Infini


    What would Jesus do?

    Rise above it (and vote couch potato!)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,248 ✭✭✭✭BoJack Horseman


    Another reason is that if the Yes votes win, a child having two dads could lead to confusion..... I don't want that to happen to people.

    What, like the way Jesus has 2 dads?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,681 ✭✭✭Fleawuss


    Ban religious discussion from AH please. It's too much.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 59 ✭✭Trojan Donkey


    What, like the way Jesus has 2 dads?

    Explain.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 691 ✭✭✭Terrlock


    murphm45 wrote: »
    Your argument is fundamentally flawed, the reason being your assuming the church and state definition of marriage are one in the same. They're not. The key differentiation being divorce.

    I'd like to think of myself as a relatively devout catholic and while I'm not 100% sure on how I'll vote yet I don't think I'm turning my back on God if I choose to vote yes. By voting no purely for the"good doesn't like it" reason I'm forcing my beliefs on others which I don't see as Christian.

    Anyway AH response - troll much op?!

    If you know God is true and believe in him then you should take his word seriously and follow what it says.

    Marriage is clearly defined in God's word to be between man and women. A union which is blessed by God.

    You cannot know God, follow him, trust in his word and still vote yes to gay marriage, it's hypocrisy


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,560 ✭✭✭✭salmocab


    Terrlock wrote: »
    If you know God is true and believe in him then you should take his word seriously and follow what it says.

    Marriage is clearly defined in God's word to be between man and women. A union which is blessed by God.

    You cannot know God, follow him, trust in his word and still vote yes to gay marriage, it's hypocrisy

    and you cannot know what Gods word is unless he told you.


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  • Posts: 26,052 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    You cannot know God, follow him, trust in his word and still vote yes to gay marriage, it's hypocrisy

    That's fine for religious marriage, but you've no business preventing people from marrying in a civil ceremony since that has no bearing on your life.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,750 ✭✭✭fleet_admiral


    I'm voting NO. Because voting Yes won't get equality for everyone. Everyone has the right to marry a person of the opposite sex. A man has the right to marry a woman and vice verse. Giving people the right to marry the same sex is like someone winning €1 million in the lottery and then turning around and saying that they don't want that they want €2 million.

    Another reason is that if the Yes votes win, a child having two dads could lead to confusion, bullying, embarrassment, depression and maybe suicide. I don't want that to happen to people.
    And having two mothers would be different?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,248 ✭✭✭✭BoJack Horseman


    Explain.

    Well, if you are new to Christianity, the most of it is that he is the some of God & also, the son of Joseph.

    They shared custody though.

    After 32 years & after Jesus had his resur-erection, he went to live with his dad in the sky.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,628 ✭✭✭Señor Fancy Pants


    Love is a wonderful thing. Regardless of what gender you are and what gender you fall in love with.

    People shouldn't be penalised because they don't fit into "the accepted social norms". Whats "normal" these days anyway?

    I would be confident that people of the same gender who marry and have / adopt children would do a fine job. No better or worse than the "conventional" family unit.

    The Church and its opinions hold no weight with me. They frown upon contraception yet were responsible for horrors of the laundries, and priests fiddling with kids.

    "God" didn't mind that stuff, now did he?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,680 ✭✭✭Nollog


    macker33 wrote: »
    Lets not forget all the good the cathlic church has done for this country while gays have done nothing but embarrass us.

    We'll never know, because they would've been afraid to come out.


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 59 ✭✭Trojan Donkey


    Well, if you are new to Christianity, the most of it is that he is the some of God & also, the son of Joseph.

    They shared custody though.

    Jesus is not the son of Joseph. Mary was chosen to give birth to Jesus who was the incarnation of God on earth.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,807 ✭✭✭Custardpi


    And having two mothers would be different?

    Of course!



  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 59 ✭✭Trojan Donkey


    And having two mothers would be different?

    No. It would be the exact same.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,166 ✭✭✭Tasden



    Another reason is that if the Yes votes win, a child having two dads could lead to confusion, bullying, embarrassment, depression and maybe suicide. I don't want that to happen to people.

    Voting no may lead to the same confusion, embarrassment, depression and maybe suicide for (young) gay people who will feel that they, and the people they love, are somehow lesser/not worthy in the eyes of their fellow citizens. Same for those who currently have same sex parents.
    I don't want that to happen to people.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,299 ✭✭✭✭The Backwards Man


    Well, if you are new to Christianity, the most of it is that he is the some of God & also, the son of Joseph.

    They shared custody though.

    After 32 years & after Jesus had his resur-erection, he went to live with his dad in the sky.
    The world's first and longest term surrogate child. :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,248 ✭✭✭✭BoJack Horseman


    Jesus is not the son of Joseph. Mary was chosen to give birth to Jesus who was the incarnation of God on earth.

    Kinda blasphemous there friendo!

    Catholics deem Jesus was indeed devine, but separate from god.
    During Christ's life, god appeared to others separately.

    Meanwhile back at the carpenters shop, joseph did refer to Jesus as his son & likewise Jesus referred to Joseph as his father.

    2,000 years later Jesus still hasn't moved out of 'Space Dad's' gaff in heaven.
    The word is that its putting a strain between god & his girlfriend Karen, whoem God is trying to get to move in.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,597 ✭✭✭gctest50


    Terrlock wrote: »
    If you know God is true and believe in him then you should take his word seriously and follow what it says.

    Marriage is clearly defined in God's word to be between man and women. A union which is blessed by God.

    You cannot know God, follow him, trust in his word and still vote yes to gay marriage, it's hypocrisy


    which one ?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,775 ✭✭✭It wasnt me123


    Terrlock wrote: »
    and still vote yes to gay marriage, it's hypocrisy

    In my book, hypocrisy is saying "think of the children" and forgetting the abuse, physical/mental/sexual that was done on the "children" by the clergy. Or are Gay rights only for the Clergy


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 59 ✭✭Trojan Donkey


    Tasden wrote: »
    Voting no may lead to the same confusion, embarrassment, depression and maybe suicide for (young) gay people who will feel that they, and the people they love, are somehow lesser/not worthy in the eyes of their fellow citizens. Same for those who currently have same sex parents.
    I don't want that to happen to people.

    Have you any idea about the amount of proud gay people coming out on TV? No embarrassment there. And if suicide was a problem within the gay community, we wouldn't have nonsensical referendums trying to ruin this country now would we?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,466 ✭✭✭Anesthetize


    What was the name of that disciple that Jesus loved? ;)


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