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Motherboard suggestions

  • 19-05-2015 10:55am
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 77 ✭✭


    EVGA GeForce GTX 750 TI FTW ACX, 2GB DDR5, PCI-Express
    Intel Core i5-4670K Box, LGA1150
    8GB-Kit Crucial Ballistix Sport Series DDR3-1600, CL9
    Seagate Barracuda 7200 1000GB, SATA 6Gb/s
    EVGA 500B,Bronze,
    BitFenix Prodigy Mini-ITX

    Can somebody recommend a suitable motherboard that this would all work in please. Nothing too fancy just something that's reasonably cheap and does the job. Thanks! :)


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,397 ✭✭✭✭Digital Solitude


    Is this a pure gaming machine Matty?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 77 ✭✭Matty99


    Pretty much yeah.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,397 ✭✭✭✭Digital Solitude


    Drop CPU to an i5 4460 for €175
    Change GPU for a GTX 960 for €215

    960 is about 80% better than the 750Ti, it'll cost you €15 more with the lesser CPU for much better gaming performance.

    ASRock Pro4 H97 motherboard will be good, its about €80.

    Edit* Disregard all that, you're going mITX, gimme a few minutes to scout the case


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 77 ✭✭Matty99


    My friend has a similar build and it runs just about everything on max settings. Is the i5 4460 overclockable? Also, can you link me the 960 you're talking about


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,397 ✭✭✭✭Digital Solitude


    Everything being? Wouldn't hold a candle to most games newer than 2012 or so.

    No, if you're gaming there's no need to overclock. Most of your gaming power comes from the GPU, very little of it is the CPU. 4460 will handle pretty much anything for a few years atleast.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 77 ✭✭Matty99


    Well I mean he runs GTA V on the max settings and that's a pretty demanding game to run. Not sure if you're confused or something but the 750 TI FTW ACX along with the 4670k seems to run a lot of demanding games on high to ultra settings. Even a quick search on youtube I get a whole bunch of modern games been run with this setup such as Battlefield Hardline, GTA V etc.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,397 ✭✭✭✭Digital Solitude


    At what resolution and framerate? I know that 970's hit about 55-60fps on GTAV at 1080p.

    After some searching, most games run at about 30fps on the 750Ti Source

    Here the 960 can been seen averaging at about 40 on Ultra, so obviously on High the 960 would be streets ahead, and last longer.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 77 ✭✭Matty99


    So, with a 960 and the 4460 I'd be able to play pretty much any game on max settings?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,307 ✭✭✭Xenoronin


    At 1080p the 750Ti will run at medium to high in newer games. The Witcher 3 will be looking at low/medium settings. GTA5 probably medium/high depending on what settings you use. There is no getting around the bottleneck from that card in games. You could bump up the quality to high/ultra but that's only if you don't mind dropping down to a 30fps or lower... and honestly you want to stick around 60fps.

    This is a good comparison to show what I mean.
    http://www.anandtech.com/bench/product/1038?vs=1130

    You can add approx 10% to the 760 scores to get the 960.

    So to sum up. You can run modern games with the 750 Ti, just don't expect it to last as long as a 960, running games at high. Digital is correct in his assessment. Get the i5. Forget overclocking. Get the 960 (or 760 if you can find it cheaper). You'll be shooting bad guys at high/ultra for much longer.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,397 ✭✭✭✭Digital Solitude


    I've a 4460 in my PC and it doesn't struggle, so yeah its fine

    960 can do everything the 750Ti can, except better basically. Few benchmarks I checked out showed someone hitting 90fps in GTAV with 4460 and 960, seems to average a bit under 60 in general


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,397 ✭✭✭✭Digital Solitude


    To answer your original query, theres an mITX motherboard, and the MSI 960 will fit into your case no bother.

    http://www.hardwareversand.de/DDR3/127045/ASRock+H81M-ITX%2C+Sockel+1150%2C+ITX.article?pvid=4p4uez92b_i9uk0lc0&ref=13


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 77 ✭✭Matty99


    Will my power supply that I listed above be okay with a 960, or would I need to get a more powerful one?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,397 ✭✭✭✭Digital Solitude


    No 500w is fine


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 77 ✭✭Matty99


    Okay so I've taken the advice on board and have built this:

    MSI GeForce GTX 960 2GD5, 2GB GDDR5, DVI, HDMI, 3x Displayport
    Intel Core i5-4460
    8GB-Kit Crucial Ballistix Sport Series DDR3-1600, CL9
    EVGA 500B,Bronze,3Yrs Wnt
    WD Blue 1TB 6Gb's
    ASRock B85 Pro4, Sockel 1150, ATX
    BitFenix Prodigy Mini-ITX Gehäuse - weiß, ohne Netzteil

    Will the motherboard and all that fit this build?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,397 ✭✭✭✭Digital Solitude


    No, the motherboards too big to fit into your case. You need an ATX case, or an mITX motherboard.

    Look at Antec One or Nanoxia DS3 for ATX cases, or the motherboard I linked a few posts ago for an mITX board


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,509 ✭✭✭Lu Tze


    No, the motherboards too big to fit into your case. You need an ATX case, or an mITX motherboard.

    Look at Antec One or Nanoxia DS3 for ATX cases, or the motherboard I linked a few posts ago for an mITX board

    Alterntively there is a micro atx prodigy out there, and you could use a micro atx motherboard in that if you are short on ports in the itx? Its the same size as the itx prodigy on the outside, laid out differently on the inside.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,397 ✭✭✭✭Digital Solitude


    Didn't realise there was an mATX Prodigy! That's probably a better idea Matty, more space for airflow etc


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,509 ✭✭✭Lu Tze


    Didn't realise there was an mATX Prodigy! That's probably a better idea Matty, more space for airflow etc

    Not really - its the same size case, just the mobo is oriented vertically to fit! No idea if there are any extra restrictions on power supplies or graphics cards size wise, would do well to look up one of the review in any case.

    Any particular reason your going itx? In general m-atx works out cheaper, for the motherboard anyways, you pay a premium for the small footprint of the itx, and a premium for the added benefit of full atx over m-atx. That said i do like nice and tidy, wish i had kept my Ncase M1 for a future build instead of selling it :(. Needs must though


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,397 ✭✭✭✭Digital Solitude


    Yeah I just realised what I said made no sense :pac: Should fit same sized GPU though, the 969 was okay by like 50mm


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 77 ✭✭Matty99


    I like the look of the Gigabyte GA-H97N-WIFI, Sockel 1150, ITX - That should fit and everything should work on it, right?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,397 ✭✭✭✭Digital Solitude


    Seriously off the ball the last while :o Yeah that board is fine


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 77 ✭✭Matty99


    Thanks :) Also, what's the difference between all the GTX 960s? I see other ones around the same price and some are a little bit more expensive such as the EVGA GeForce GTX 960 Superclocked graphics card - GF GTX 960 - 2 GB, or the Gainward GeForce GTX 960 OC graphics card - GF GTX 960 - 2 GB -


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,397 ✭✭✭✭Digital Solitude


    Some of them are clocked differently, e.g. the EVGA Superclocked, but for the most part they perform pretty much the same. MSI is about 215 new, can't go wrong with it


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 77 ✭✭Matty99


    I'm using the German site to build it, is it the first one when you type ''GTX MSI 960'' for 194.99? I would post a link but I'm a new user.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,397 ✭✭✭✭Digital Solitude




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 77 ✭✭Matty99


    And it'll fit fine?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,397 ✭✭✭✭Digital Solitude


    You've to unscrew one of the hard drive bays I believe, but yes it'll fit.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 77 ✭✭Matty99


    Okay. So I have everything now.

    Intel Core i5-4460 in-a-Box
    MSI GeForce GTX 960 Gaming 2G, 2GB GDDR5
    EVGA 500B,Bronze,3Yrs Wnt
    8GB-Kit Crucial Ballistix Sport Series DDR3-1600,
    Gigabyte GA-H97N-WIFI, Sockel 1150, ITX
    WD Blue 1TB 6Gb's
    BitFenix Prodigy Mini-ITX Gehäuse - weiß, ohne Netzteil

    total: €745,64

    I'll take it all checks out and works together before I buy it? Also, do you know what price it is for delivery as I have only about 800 to spend and I don't want to go over that.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,397 ✭✭✭✭Digital Solitude


    You can knock another €20 off that if you type every part into Geizhals.de (I've just checked)

    Delivery is €12

    If you can stretch to €820 you can fit a crucial BX100 250gb SSD, delivered.

    Aside from that, you're good to go


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 77 ✭✭Matty99


    Thanks a bunch man! So that website is different then the one I'm buying or?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,397 ✭✭✭✭Digital Solitude


    No, you type the name of the item in, e.g. i5 4460, and click on the link that comes up, you then scroll down to the hardwareversand button, and click it, it'll link you back to hardwareversand, but sometimes with a cheaper price.

    The i5 and RAM are unchanged, but the GTX 960 is €5 cheaper for example


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 77 ✭✭Matty99


    Oh okay. So pretty much I clear my basket out now, head to that site you gave me and find my items through there. When I then scroll down and find the link to the website I'm using, I click it and just simply add it to my basket?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,397 ✭✭✭✭Digital Solitude


    Yep basically. You can copy paste from the item page on hwvs to get it quicker, it'll always be the first link that way


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 77 ✭✭Matty99


    Oh that's great. I kinda want to get the Bitfenix Progidy case in black, would you recommend or do you have any experience with some of the sites listed when you type it in on the geizhals.eu site


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,115 ✭✭✭adocholiday


    There are vouchers available online for your first order with HWVS too. I got €10 off my order because it was over €500

    http://www.gutscheinsammler.de/gutscheine/hardwareversand


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,397 ✭✭✭✭Digital Solitude


    No hardwareversand is the only one I've used. Its listed on hvws anyways? I had it a few minutes ago. I'd say they're alright, but hwvs is close to the top on everything, and with delivery from each site you're better off getting from one site


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 77 ✭✭Matty99


    Yeah but they're out of stock till like next month, the black one that is :(


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,397 ✭✭✭✭Digital Solitude


    Hadn't copped that. BitFenix sell them on Amazon.de for 92 delivered, or they're on EBay for €80, follow the Geizhals links


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 77 ✭✭Matty99


    Meh, I'll just go with the white one. Two more things! Is there any keyboard that's not using the german layout on that site, nothing fancy just need a cheap keyboard for now. Also, I'm going to get a monitor - The Samsung Monitor S24D300H looks good, any other ones that's maybe better for the same price? If not I'll just go with that one, seems really good for the money.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,397 ✭✭✭✭Digital Solitude


    BenQ 2450 is about the same price, or the 2460, both are recommended here by lads who have bought them. Don't know much about monitors myself

    https://geizhals.de/?cat=kb&xf=527_englisch#xf_top
    Thats all the english ones on geizhals, they won't all be on hwvs though

    https://geizhals.de/?cat=kb&xf=424_mechanische+Tastatur~527_englisch
    Same as above but mechanical. Look into the mechanical ones before you buy if you decide to


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 77 ✭✭Matty99


    Do you know how do use the vouchers on that site?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,397 ✭✭✭✭Digital Solitude


    Someway into the buying process there's a text box


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 77 ✭✭Matty99


    Okay, and where do you enter your paypal details? Right now it says prepayment, after I click the 'order liable for costs button' does it then ask for the payment method?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,397 ✭✭✭✭Digital Solitude


    I haven't a clue mate, click through it at the default settings until you hit the Payment Type screen, it'll say back transfer and PayPal, its a good few screens in


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 77 ✭✭Matty99


    Okay so I ordered but it said nothing about PayPal or anything, it just said ''Thank you for placing an order cash on prepayment'' what's that all about?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 77 ✭✭Matty99


    They sent me an email also saying I requested an order and all that, but how do I pay them?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,397 ✭✭✭✭Digital Solitude


    Nothing about PayPal at all? You've requested a bank transfer. PayPal doesn't show up for some people sometimes, no one here has a clue why.

    I've just logged in, the 5th screen after I login with the order is Payment Type, and PayPal is the second one. Do you have that?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 77 ✭✭Matty99


    No. It just has the option to 'cash on payment' and I can't untick that box. So what do I do now?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,397 ✭✭✭✭Digital Solitude


    Have you set up an account with them? If not, try that, though if you can use a Bank Transfer that'd be handy too


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 77 ✭✭Matty99


    I have an account yeah, I was logged in and the time also. The email they sent me contained a few ban accounts or something then followed by my list of products that I ordered


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