Which TD deserves a vote in Mayo

Paddy James

Just putting it out there:

Which (if any) TD in Mayo deserves a vote in next election ?

Also could everyone list everything each TD has done for Mayo in past 5 years

irishgeo

Paddy James wrote: »

Just putting it out there:

Which (if any) TD in Mayo deserves a vote in next election ?

Also could everyone list everything each TD has done for Mayo in past 5 years

Ring. Seems to have got a lot of tourist money and grants to Westport anyway. Mainly green way related.

signostic

irishgeo wrote: »

Ring. Seems to have got a lot of tourist money and grants to Westport anyway. Mainly green way related.

He seems to be doing his piece for Westport at any rate, as regards the rest, take your pick

gizmo555

Michelle Mulherin has clarified for us what the results of fornication are and paid back that money for the calls to Kenya which were work-related (really!)

6541

Rose Conway Walsh.

naughto

Michael kilcoyne

naughto

gizmo555 wrote: »

Michelle Mulherin has clarified for us what the results of fornication are and paid back that money for the calls to Kenya which were work-related (really!)

I'd say she will be in bother holding on to her seat even with out the fornicstion\ calls to Kenya she would be in bothdr

6541

I have the following questions / observations about Mayo Politics.

1) Enda should not be re-elected as he has done nothing for Mayo, I mean zero.
2) When did Mayo became so obsessed with Fine Gael?

galljga1

6541 wrote: »

I have the following questions / observations about Mayo Politics.

1) Enda should not be re-elected as he has done nothing for Mayo, I mean zero.
2) When did Mayo became so obsessed with Fine Gael?

Aha, Enda is mentioned on the eight post.

6541

galljga1 wrote: »

Aha, Enda is mentioned on the eight post.

Ahem and why not he is our Taoiseach, he is from Castlebar, he has let Mayo down badly and shockingly this is a Mayo forum.

galljga1

6541 wrote: »

Ahem and why not he is our Taoiseach, he is from Castlebar, he has let Mayo down badly and shockingly this is a Mayo forum.

I was just surprised that it took eight posts for the attack to begin.

6541

galljga1 wrote: »

I was just surprised that it took eight posts for the attack to begin.

It is not an attack, I am pointing out facts. If you take the fact that he has let Mayo down badly as an attack then so be it, we will have to agree to disagree that Enda Kenny has let Mayo down badly, not one single employment opportunity created in his home town during his tenure, whole towns in Mayo decimated, eg Ballyhaunis.

irishgeo

4 seater this time around should be interesting.

I cant see michelle making it and with john gone to galway i can see the following.

enda
ring
harry potter although he could be challenged by lisa.
sinn fein

6541

irishgeo wrote: »

4 seater this time around should be interesting.

I cant see michelle making it and with john gone to galway i can see the following.

enda
ring
harry potter although he could be challenged by lisa.
sinn fein

i would say you are near, I wonder about Sinn Fein, will Mayo have the guts to return a Shinner ?

galljga1

6541 wrote: »

It is not an attack, I am pointing out facts. If you take the fact that he has let Mayo down badly as an attack then so be it, we will have to agree to disagree that Enda Kenny has let Mayo down badly, not one single employment opportunity created in his home town during his tenure, whole towns in Mayo decimated, eg Ballyhaunis.

You are getting me wrong here. I do see it as an attack but a deserved attack. We may have differing views of what an attack is. I would have assumed that Enda would have been on post 2 with not much positive to say about him.

6541

galljga1 wrote: »

You are getting me wrong here. I do see it as an attack but a deserved attack. We may have differing views of what an attack is. I would have assumed that Enda would have been on post 2 with not much positive to say about him.

Fair enough fair play, its a shame if he gets elected again.

irishgeo

6541 wrote: »

i would say you are near, I wonder about Sinn Fein, will Mayo have the guts to return a Shinner ?

maybe not but o mahonys votes could go anywhere.

Cant see kilcoyne getting them as he not really in o mahonys area. Perhaps lisa could get in taking the female vote of michelle.

finisklin

Ring will top poll as he is seen to be bringing investment and funding into county. Inda will face a backlash as quite rightly pointed out he hasn't delivered. IMO, possibly some pro FF civil servants in either county council or development agencies blocking him. This is an opinion only as it is unusual that he hasn't done anything for county town.

MM will fare poorly as her fornication and Kenyan mobile courting calls reflect poorly on her. The North Mayo public view on her is that she is of little substance and though camera friendly has huffed and puffed and really done nothing for Ballina. The route and connection of the N26 was a great opportunity to show her political savvy and this ended up with the strongest proposal to link up at Turlough. Enough said.

Calleary will squeeze in and is adept at being in the right place and saying the right things. He's playing a longer game for leadership of FF. Knows where his votes are and looks after them.

Last seat too difficult to call. Chambers and SF in with a shout.

For all the talk about politics and the role of politicians - do we really need them? Appreciate the question is too big for this forum and there are times when you wonder.......

Trying to figure out what they really do and contribute of real value where they actually make a difference to community and constituents?

monument

Why has Kilcoyne not distanced himself from the First Mayo Independent group yet?

While First Mayo Independent apparently have some grassroots people who could become strong local campaigners, the group seems a bit all over the place -- in terms of having candidates who are clearly left wing and clearly rightwing -- and mixing single-issue groups (anti-wind turbines, anti-water charges, anti-pylons etc) into one does not seem like a good idea for stability... What happens when a candidate is not fully supportive of one of the interist groups' goals?

What happens when a candidate disagrees with one of the founder's extream conservatism?

It could change, but at this stage none of the First Mayo Independent candidates seem to have a chance and pitting 7 or more of them against each other to go down to an undefined exact number of final candidates seems like it could harm their chances, rather than help matters.

if all goes half well for them, while First Mayo Independent is unlikely to win a seat, it might be a big distrupting factor. Jordan in Ballina, with a FG background, for example would likely suck first preferences from the area's current FG TD.

whitey1

irishgeo wrote: »

4 seater this time around should be interesting.

I cant see michelle making it and with john gone to galway i can see the following.

enda
ring
harry potter although he could be challenged by lisa.
sinn fein

That makes sense, but with transfers from Enda and Ring and JOMs votes transferring would that be sufficient to pull MM over the line? Thought she handled "Kenyagate" very poorly and displayed very bad judgement throughout the whole affair

"Im sorry, I made a mistake, it wont happen again and I have repaid the money" on day one would have made it a non issue. Instead she gave it plenty of time to fester

Rose Conway Walsh very capable from what I hear, but who in their right mind would vote for SF. They have no economic policies beyond buying votes and telling everyone theyre victims of some imagined slight or injustice

Think Lisa Chambers will do well, but hard to see her unseating Harry Potter or winning a second FF seat, but what the hell do I know

whitey1

irishgeo wrote: »

maybe not but o mahonys votes could go anywhere.

Cant see kilcoyne getting them as he not really in o mahonys area. Perhaps lisa could get in taking the female vote of michelle.

I guess it may come down to the opinion polls. If FG look like leading the next govt, wouldnt you be better with a TD in govt, rather than a TD in opposition even if theyve done SFA up to now

naughto

Who's Harry potter ??
The new independent group is a waste of time if you ask me all it will do is take a few votes off the top 4.
Would be hoping Kilcoyne could do done thing but I don't no if he can in a 4 seater, and there's talk of him not running

6541

whitey1 wrote: »

Rose Conway Walsh very capable from what I hear, but who in their right mind would vote for SF. They have no economic policies beyond buying votes and telling everyone theyre victims of some imagined slight or injustice

Ahem I will be and so will hundreds of thousands of others Fianna Fail and Fine Gael didn't exactly do themselves justice on the auld economic front, one introduced us to the word recession and the other introduced us to austerity!

whitey1

6541 wrote: »

Ahem I will be and so will hundreds of thousands of others Fianna Fail and Fine Gael didn't excatly do themselves justice on the auld economic front, one introduced us to the word recession and the other introduced us to the asturity!

So youd undo all the progress that FG have made over the past few years to make a point?

http://www.irishtimes.com/business/economy/ireland-launches-debut-30-year-bond-sale-to-lock-in-low-yields-1.2089336

6541

whitey1 wrote: »

So youd undo all the progress that FG have made over the past few years to make a point?

http://www.irishtimes.com/business/economy/ireland-launches-debut-30-year-bond-sale-to-lock-in-low-yields-1.2089336

FG has done nothing for Mayo, Enda Kenny has not added one job for Castlebar, so yes I will be voting them out.

Coillte_Bhoy

6541 wrote: »

It is not an attack, I am pointing out facts. If you take the fact that he has let Mayo down badly as an attack then so be it, we will have to agree to disagree that Enda Kenny has let Mayo down badly, not one single employment opportunity created in his home town during his tenure, whole towns in Mayo decimated, eg Ballyhaunis.

So you want Kenny to directly and personally get involved in providing jobs as opposed to his govt creating the conductions for employment growth? Could you outline how this would work exactly? And how is he responsible for the decimation of Ballyhaunis?

irishgeo

naughto wrote: »

Who's Harry potter ??

Harry potter


Dara Calleary

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finisklin

Coillte_Bhoy wrote: »

So you want Kenny to directly and personally get involved in providing jobs as opposed to his govt creating the conductions for employment growth? Could you outline how this would work exactly? And how is he responsible for the decimation of Ballyhaunis?

Parish pump politics hasn't gone away just because FF are not in power. Ring has milked it.

Kenny hasn't produced as much which is unusual. IMO he's being stymied and will reap it for Castlebar and Mayo if he makes it back in as taoiseach.

godskitchen

Coillte_Bhoy wrote: »

So you want Kenny to directly and personally get involved in providing jobs as opposed to his govt creating the conductions for employment growth? Could you outline how this would work exactly? And how is he responsible for the decimation of Ballyhaunis?

So when he not just promised but announced 200+ jobs for castlebar he shouldn't take any credit for that? Jobs which have yet to materialise and which probably never will.

The people that voted for him and his party expected results for their county, they really don't care how well Dublin is doing when it's them waiting in line for the dole.

Kenny has had 40 years as a TD for Mayo, it's time for a change.

6541

Time for change, time for Sinn Fein !

aunt aggie

I sincerely doubt Enda wants to be re-elected.

He's just going through the motions.

godskitchen

aunt aggie wrote: »

I sincerely doubt Enda wants to be re-elected.

He's just going through the motions.

Really? What makes you say that?

6541

godskitchen wrote: »

Really? What makes you say that?

Well by his performance in Mayo it's like he just gave up, lost interest so to speak.

monument

godskitchen wrote: »

The people that voted for him and his party expected results for their county, they really don't care how well Dublin is doing when it's them waiting in line for the dole.

I'm far from Kenny's biggest fan, but that kind of thinking is not really accounting for a lot of things:

• Dublin is Ireland's economic powerhouse, so Dublin recovering will help other places -- even if it takes a while to trickle down (and even if the Government suffers for that delay).
• The bulk of people in Mayo are not waiting in line for the dole.
• Many Mayo companies do businesses with Dublin-based individuals, companies, and state agencies.
• There's also a lot of Mayo people based in Dublin -- so there's a lot of Mayo people who do care about Dublin for many reasons.

Dollseyes

6541 wrote: »

Well by his performance in Mayo it's like he just gave up, lost interest so to speak.

Plus he's not coming back to Mayo as he knows he's not wanted! I Heard he's building a nice big lump of a house in Kerry!!!!

godskitchen

monument wrote: »

I'm far from Kenny's biggest fan, but that kind of thinking is not really accounting for a lot of things:

• Dublin is Ireland's economic powerhouse, so Dublin recovering will help other places -- even if it takes a while to trickle down (and even if the Government suffers for that delay).
• The bulk of people in Mayo are not waiting in line for the dole.
• Many Mayo companies do businesses with Dublin-based individuals, companies, and state agencies.
• There's also a lot of Mayo people based in Dublin -- so there's a lot of Mayo people who do care about Dublin for many reasons.

London and Manchester are just as important for many, many families based in Mayo. In fact, I can think of more people working in the UK from Mayo than I can in Dublin.

So maybe Enda should concentrate on improving London too.

It's the trickle down attitude that gets us into this mess of boom and bust time after time.

Mayo needs industry, it needs jobs that can support families. We don't need any more minimum wage seasonal cafe and hotel jobs. They won't bring my family home.

As for the dole, of course most people in mayo aren't on the dole. Take people off job bridge and bring back all the people who emigrated and you would come close to 50% unemployment in the county though.

6541

Enda Kenny has got to go, it will be a poor reflection on us Mayo people if he is voted in again, if he was elected again it would be like stockholm syndrome, the abused (Mayo people) voting for the abuser (Enda Kenny)

irishgeo

has a sitting Taoiseach ever lost his seat in an election in ireland?

GrowupMayo

monument wrote: »

Why has Kilcoyne not distanced himself from the First Mayo Independent group yet?

While First Mayo Independent apparently have some grassroots people who could become strong local campaigners, the group seems a bit all over the place -- in terms of having candidates who are clearly left wing and clearly rightwing -- and mixing single-issue groups (anti-wind turbines, anti-water charges, anti-pylons etc) into one does not seem like a good idea for stability... What happens when a candidate is not fully supportive of one of the interist groups' goals?

What happens when a candidate disagrees with one of the founder's extream conservatism?

It could change, but at this stage none of the First Mayo Independent candidates seem to have a chance and pitting 7 or more of them against each other to go down to an undefined exact number of final candidates seems like it could harm their chances, rather than help matters.

if all goes half well for them, while First Mayo Independent is unlikely to win a seat, it might be a big distrupting factor. Jordan in Ballina, with a FG background, for example would likely suck first preferences from the area's current FG TD.

I would say reason Kilcoyne has not distanced himself from 1st Independent MAYO (correct title) is that trying to decide if will add to his votes or not.

Having read their stuff the Group is meant to be all over the place as regards candidates as it exists to help Independent Candidates get elected. Any Independent can go through their process right wing, left wing and centre and they can have whatever policies they like pro wind, anti wind, pro water charges, ant water charges, pro referendum, anti referendum. Electorate taking part will decide who they like best and what policies they consider important.

If candidates get elected they are beholden to the electorate and no one else. Not even 1st Independent Mayo.

Any of the 7 are better than the current sorry bunch and the more electorate gets to see them the more they will realise this.

An Independent will win a seat in Mayo next time. Even last time there was a SF \ Independent combined quota with Kilcoyne last to go. Both Independents \ SF will poll significantly better next time which will ensure a seat for one of them. As Mayo very slow to warm to SF will be Independent. 1st Independent if all Independent candidates come on board will bring a discipline to Independent camp and ensure that only best placed go forward to election proper. The independents going forward will have an part electoral mandate from the electorate who have helped choose Independent candidates and will also have a good profile all over the county.

Kilcoyne most likely Independent winner at this point. If he does win hard to seen room for both Enda and Ring. 3 from West Mayo having lost 7000 votes from around Ballinrobe to Galway I think not. The same applies to Lisa Chambers. If she manages to win will not be good for Ring\Kenny.

I see 2 West Mayo (from Kenny \ Ring \ Kilcoyne \ Chambers) and 2 Noth and East (from Calleary Mulherin and Independent)

Conway Walsh too bottled up in Belmullet to deliver for SF. If Gerry Murray added he would have more of a chance. In any event I see only small chance for them.

whitey1

GrowupMayo wrote: »

I would say reason Kilcoyne has not distanced himself from 1st Independent MAYO (correct title) is that trying to decide if will add to his votes or not.

Having read their stuff the Group is meant to be all over the place as regards candidates as it exists to help Independent Candidates get elected. Any Independent can go through their process right wing, left wing and centre and they can have whatever policies they like pro wind, anti wind, pro water charges, ant water charges, pro referendum, anti referendum. Electorate taking part will decide who they like best and what policies they consider important.

If candidates get elected they are beholden to the electorate and no one else. Not even 1st Independent Mayo.

Any of the 7 are better than the current sorry bunch and the more electorate gets to see them the more they will realise this.

An Independent will win a seat in Mayo next time. Even last time there was a SF \ Independent combined quota with Kilcoyne last to go. Both Independents \ SF will poll significantly better next time which will ensure a seat for one of them. As Mayo very slow to warm to SF will be Independent. 1st Independent if all Independent candidates come on board will bring a discipline to Independent camp and ensure that only best placed go forward to election proper. The independents going forward will have an part electoral mandate from the electorate who have helped choose Independent candidates and will also have a good profile all over the county.

Kilcoyne most likely Independent winner at this point. If he does win hard to seen room for both Enda and Ring. 3 from West Mayo having lost 7000 votes from around Ballinrobe to Galway I think not. The same applies to Lisa Chambers. If she manages to win will not be good for Ring\Kenny.

I see 2 West Mayo (from Kenny \ Ring \ Kilcoyne \ Chambers) and 2 Noth and East (from Calleary Mulherin and Independent)

Conway Walsh too bottled up in Belmullet to deliver for SF. If Gerry Murray added he would have more of a chance. In any event I see only small chance for them.

Interesting take but I think there is no way Ring or Enda lose their seats. FG won 4 last time out......even with loss of South Mayo they should have plenty of votes to get 2 candidates accross the line. I think Ring will romp home and that his and Mulherins transfers will bring Enda home.

I think Dara Calleary wins for FF

4th seat is where it gets really interesting. I think Lisa Chambers is in with a shot, but if Kilcoyne runs...I think it would hurt her as it would split the Castlebar vote 3 ways. While it may hurt Enda in terms of first preferences, its second preferences that will get him home and dry.

With Therese Ruane not running, would Lisa get some of her first preferences or would they all go to Rose Conway Walsh?? Who knows.

I heard good things about Rose Conway Walsh too, but given where we are at this stage in the recovery, electing a Sinn Fein candidate would be a step in the wrong direction.

Maybe if Lisa and Rose formed a pact ONE of them may get over the line. A capable female TD would be a good thing for the county, especially after the Bev disaster.

godskitchen

whitey1 wrote: »

Interesting take but I think there is no way Ring or Enda lose their seats. FG won 4 last time out......even with loss of South Mayo they should have plenty of votes to get 2 candidates accross the line. I think Ring will romp home and that his and Mulherins transfers will bring Enda home.

I think Dara Calleary wins for FF

4th seat is where it gets really interesting. I think Lisa Chambers is in with a shot, but if Kilcoyne runs...I think it would hurt her as it would split the Castlebar vote 3 ways. While it may hurt Enda in terms of first preferences, its second preferences that will get him home and dry.

With Therese Ruane not running, would Lisa get some of her first preferences or would they all go to Rose Conway Walsh?? Who knows.

I heard good things about Rose Conway Walsh too, but given where we are at this stage in the recovery, electing a Sinn Fein candidate would be a step in the wrong direction.

Maybe if Lisa and Rose formed a pact ONE of them may get over the line. A capable female TD would be a good thing for the county, especially after the Bev disaster.

I haven't met a single person in or around castlebar that is voting for enda, he is finished.

As for a capable female TD, I think mayo will have to keep looking.

GrowupMayo

godskitchen wrote: »

I haven't met a single person in or around castlebar that is voting for enda, he is finished.

As for a capable female TD, I think mayo will have to keep looking.

Any suggestions for a potential Woman TD. A good one in the Independent field would make race very interesting. Cynthia Clampet who runs Mayo \ Roscommon hospice has been mentioned as a possibility while others say Bev is raring to go again.

Conway Walsh would be OK except in wrong party. Chambers don't think she has any substance just there because she is a woman a bit like Mulherin. There must be someone good out there of the female persuasion.

monument

godskitchen wrote: »

London and Manchester are just as important for many, many families based in Mayo. In fact, I can think of more people working in the UK from Mayo than I can in Dublin.

So maybe Enda should concentrate on improving London too.

That's not the case for me -- I know more people from Mayo working in Dublin than I know working in the UK.

It's also not the case for most businesses I know in Mayo -- they are more dependent on direct or contract work from Dublin.

It's also the case that Dublin pays more tax than all the tax collected in Dublin -- and that is spent around the country!

godskitchen wrote: »

It's the trickle down attitude that gets us into this mess of boom and bust time after time.

The extreme nature of the boom and bust had nothing to do with any "trickle down attitude" --

godskitchen wrote: »

Mayo needs industry, it needs jobs that can support families. We don't need any more minimum wage seasonal cafe and hotel jobs. They won't bring my family home.

Mayo needs a mix of things. No one solution will work for everybody.

There's a need for industry. And while "seasonal cafe and hotel jobs" may not suit your family, but such seasonal work is likely to suit others or at least benefit others (and more people employed means more money in the local economy etc). The goal with tourism is however to make more of it all year long and less and less seasonal as possible.

godskitchen wrote: »

As for the dole, of course most people in mayo aren't on the dole. Take people off job bridge and bring back all the people who emigrated and you would come close to 50% unemployment in the county though.

I strongly disagree with Jobbridge, but there's no way recent emigrants + Jobbridge people comes anywhere close to 50% of the working age population of the county.

It might be true of some area of towns or some villages or rural areas, but it's no way true overall across the county.

godskitchen

monument wrote: »

That's not the case for me -- I know more people from Mayo working in Dublin than I know working in the UK.

It's also not the case for most businesses I know in Mayo -- they are more dependent on direct or contract work from Dublin.

It's also the case that Dublin pays more tax than all the tax collected in Dublin -- and that is spent around the country!




The extreme nature of the boom and bust had nothing to do with any "trickle down attitude" --




Mayo needs a mix of things. No one solution will work for everybody.

There's a need for industry. And while "seasonal cafe and hotel jobs" may not suit your family, but such seasonal work is likely to suit others or at least benefit others (and more people employed means more money in the local economy etc). The goal with tourism is however to make more of it all year long and less and less seasonal as possible.




I strongly disagree with Jobbridge, but there's no way recent emigrants + Jobbridge people comes anywhere close to 50% of the working age population of the county.

It might be true of some area of towns or some villages or rural areas, but it's no way true overall across the county.

I disagree with all of your counter points but I think we will never see the other persons pov. There are far more young people from Mayo who have left the country than in Dublin, it's not even close. I can name 10 emmagrants for every mayo person I know in Dublin

I will agree on the 50% unemployment rate however but I will add non jobs to the list. The likes of tesco, only giving staff 25 hours a week. Plenty more like them and plenty more on zero hour contracts.

I am lucky enough to have work, from my own initiative, and I deal with a broad spectrum of businesses across the county. Dublin is not as important as you think it is. I'm not saying it's not important, just not as important as London/UK to mayo.

We do need one big employment project. They rest will come from that. We need to look past tourism and start making things again.

As for seasonal work suiting some people, of course it does. It won't build a house or put a child through collage. We need secure long term employment all year round. There is enough cafes and hotels in mayo paying minium wage. We don't need any more.

Paddy James

godskitchen wrote: »

I disagree with all of your counter points but I think we will never see the other persons pov. There are far more young people from Mayo who have left the country than in Dublin, it's not even close. I can name 10 emmagrants for every mayo person I know in Dublin

I will agree on the 50% unemployment rate however but I will add non jobs to the list. The likes of tesco, only giving staff 25 hours a week. Plenty more like them and plenty more on zero hour contracts.

I am lucky enough to have work, from my own initiative, and I deal with a broad spectrum of businesses across the county. Dublin is not as important as you think it is. I'm not saying it's not important, just not as important as London/UK to mayo.

We do need one big employment project. They rest will come from that. We need to look past tourism and start making things again.

As for seasonal work suiting some people, of course it does. It won't build a house or put a child through collage. We need secure long term employment all year round. There is enough cafes and hotels in mayo paying minium wage. We don't need any more.

Totally agree but the big question is:

What large employer can Mayo attract that will pay large salaries ? Yes we have Allergan Baxter Hollister Lionbridge Coca Cola Mc Hale etc but would the googles of this world be attracted to Mayo rather than the "bright lights" of the East of the country.

Would be great to get a few ideas going to pass on to our TD's when they coming knocking on our doors in the not to distant future but whether they will act on the suggestions is another question!

irishgeo

Paddy James wrote: »

Totally agree but the big question is:

What large employer can Mayo attract that will pay large salaries ? Yes we have Allergan Baxter Hollister Lionbridge Coca Cola Mc Hale etc but would the googles of this world be attracted to Mayo rather than the "bright lights" of the East of the country.

Would be great to get a few ideas going to pass on to our TD's when they coming knocking on our doors in the not to distant future but whether they will act on the suggestions is another question!

They can't fill the high skilled jobs in Dublin now . can't see them getting the skills in Mayo. There is no office space in castlebar anyway.

Paddy James

irishgeo wrote: »

They can't fill the high skilled jobs in Dublin now . can't see them getting the skills in Mayo. There is no office space in castlebar anyway.

True re office space but as we all know where there's a will there's a way there's plenty of empty buildings in the area out towards Roadstone and Baxter. Also there has to be some simply ideas to reignite the Main Street of Castlebar which from looking at last weekend is a disgrace to every TD in Mayo. Even a two year 50% tax rebate against the rates bill is a start and I know a lot of tax schemes have been a disaster but link it to a commitment to employing x amount of people and once this achieved and a tax clearance cert produced then the 50% tax rebate based on the rates paid is refunded.

Surely a TD that bases his or her election or reelection on solid employment proposals is the person to reelect as to date none have done a lot.

oscarBravo

GrowupMayo wrote: »

Conway Walsh would be OK except in wrong party.

That, and some sort of issue with fluoride.

Anyone who's willing to embrace pseudo-scientific woo in order to appeal to ignorant populism automatically disqualifies themselves from my vote.

mickdw

irishgeo wrote: »

has a sitting Taoiseach ever lost his seat in an election in ireland?

Well you could say Brian Cowan. He didn't actually run but he would have been out on his hole if he did.
I think kenny was very foolish in giving Ring the job he did. With the wild Atlantic way etc, there would always be funding coming into areas down the west coast. If he has put someone from Dublin in Rings position, Kenny himself could have taken all the glory for what looks like a significant share of funds going to westport and mayo in general. As it stands, Ring had guaranteed his re election while kenny looks bad.

Paddy James

mickdw wrote: »

Well you could say Brian Cowan. He didn't actually run but he would have been out on his hole if he did.
I think kenny was very foolish in giving Ring the job he did. With the wild Atlantic way etc, there would always be funding coming into areas down the west coast. If he has put someone from Dublin in Rings position, Kenny himself could have taken all the glory for what looks like a significant share of funds going to westport and mayo in general. As it stands, Ring had guaranteed his re election while kenny looks bad.

Get the feeling Ring forced Enda's hand on that one and demanded the role

godskitchen

Lads, our thinking too short term.

We don't have the skills? Change the education system.....

No office space in castlebar? Look else where or build some.

We have many high tech companies throughout the country. I'm all for that. What we need to balance the equation is manufacturing jobs.

If the Nissan factory in Sunderland, the BMW mini factory in Oxford can do it why can't we? Most of the components for those factories are shipped in from abroad.

We have to think long term and not from puller to post. It's not working and won't work the way we are doing things. The people we have entrusted to make things happen have zero experience in business and making things happen. Our leader and local TD went from college to the class room looking after 5 year olds, to being entrusted to essentially run our County.

I know I for one would not let any of the main party TDs run my business. It would be gone under within a year.

It's time for a change and nothing short of a radical one will do.