How will you vote in the upcoming Marriage/Presidential election?

MickeyShtyles

Well.
What's the farmers view on this?
I myself will be voting yes as I think it's about fecking time!
So?


Mods, I had a goo at the charter and couldn't find anything wrong with this.

I said

Enough of this referendum scutter already.
I don't give two fcuks what way people vote,yer hardly telling people how to vote are you,the church tried that today I'm well capable of making up my own mind without either side ramming their views down people's throat at every opportunity.

Connemara Farmer

Not that it will contribute a lot to the debate but I honestly, really, and genuinely don't care. Agree with above, fed up to the hind teeth of it at this stage.

I will vote a big fat NO to the president being 21, because it's genuinely a stupid idea, if anything they should raise the voting age to 21.

Grueller

Will vote no to the presidential one anyway. Put a hoor on a large pension from 28 years old. You must be joking. Marriage referendum. I will vote yes. I have a great friend from childhood who is gay and in rural ireland has enough doors closed to him without this one remaining closed as well.

jimmy G M

Connemara Farmer wrote: »

I will vote a big fat NO to the president being 21, because it's genuinely a stupid idea, if anything they should raise the voting age to 21.

+1

Kovu

Ah you're grand Mickey.

Yes to the marriage one, not only because a good many of my friends in college were gay but can you imaging the marriage bar standard?? It will be FABULOUS darling!

But no to the presidential age being lowered, Christ, I couldn't run a roomful of students at that age, never mind a country. That's a role that needs a great deal of life experience and maturity.

Manach

No/No.

Nekarsulm

Voting Yes to the marriage one, and voting to raise the presidential age to 55.

endacl

Will there be a European subsidy?

Sacrolyte

No for both here. On the presidential one I just don't want some celebrity flash Harry above in the Park.
As for gay marriage I have no problem with that but I draw the line at the adoption of children into same sex marriages. It's just not right lads. It's just not right.

Jesus Wept

Double yes from me lads.

endacl

Sacrolyte wrote: »

No for both here. On the presidential one I just don't want some celebrity flash Harry above in the Park.
As for gay marriage I have no problem with that but I draw the line at the adoption of children into same sex marriages. It's just not right lads. It's just not right.

What it's not is relevant. Not that that seems to matter...

:rolleyes:

Limestone Cowboy

Sacrolyte wrote: »

No for both here. On the presidential one I just don't want some celebrity flash Harry above in the Park.
As for gay marriage I have no problem with that but I draw the line at the adoption of children into same sex marriages. It's just not right lads. It's just not right.

Tis gas, I was rising a lad as much as anything else the other night and he said the same thing to me. He then procceced to tell me the Catholic Church didn't approve he was a bit stuck for words when I told him about all the priests that didn't mind tickling little boys over the years. I won't be voting and couldn't give a fiddlers feck what way it goes either. It seems a bit unnatural to me to be honest but it's not to them obviously so that's why I won't be voting.

ganmo

why do ppl think the age for president should stay at 35?
there are so many other things that influence the nominations and then election that age should be way down the list.

Ganmo4pres

Zhane

Sacrolyte wrote: »

No for both here. On the presidential one I just don't want some celebrity flash Harry above in the Park.
As for gay marriage I have no problem with that but I draw the line at the adoption of children into same sex marriages. It's just not right lads. It's just not right.

Okay, you've made your opinion and i respect that totally. However, i just want to point out that you voting no will have no effect on adoption rights. Gay and Lesbian people will still be able to adopt together.

MickeyShtyles

Well lads and ladies,
Thanks to all who replied.
I myself am sick to the teeth of it, can't go anywhere without it springing up sonehow.
I'm not pushing the Yes vote, it's all opinions.
And ofcourse, opinions are like ar$eholes, everyone has one.

Genghis Cant

MickeyShtyles wrote: »

I myself am sick to the teeth of it, can't go anywhere without it springing up sonehow.

That sick you started a thread on it!

Good man :-)

Zhane

MickeyShtyles wrote: »

Well lads and ladies,
Thanks to all who replied.
I myself am sick to the teeth of it, can't go anywhere without it springing up sonehow.
I'm not pushing the Yes vote, it's all opinions.
And ofcourse, opinions are like ar$eholes, everyone has one.

It'll be over soon. Its unfortunate the debate has gotten as nasty as it has. Having grown up on a farm and being gay, the topic kinda crossed my path. I myself can't wait till its over.

MickeyShtyles

Genghis Cant wrote: »

That sick you started a thread on it!

Good man :-)

Morning Genghis.
Ya, more or less. I wanted to know what yee lot thought.

foxy farmer

Wonder if it is passed how long before it can be put to use? Hardly before the next election. And will the current divorce laws be sufficient or will they have to be amended? Another referendum down the road maybe.

mrkiscool2

Manach wrote: »

No/No.

Why are you voting no to marriage equality?

Sacrolyte wrote: »

No for both here. On the presidential one I just don't want some celebrity flash Harry above in the Park.
As for gay marriage I have no problem with that but I draw the line at the adoption of children into same sex marriages. It's just not right lads. It's just not right.

You do know the Family Bill has already been passed right? Which means that same-sex couples, whether married, in a civil union or just together will be able to adopt children. So no matter how you vote they are going to be able to adopt kids and raise them in a same-sex household. So since that's the case and you have said you have no problem with same sex couples getting married a Yes vote makes more sense based on logic.

whelan2

i dont understand the presidential age one, has there ever been a president under 30 years of age?

whelan2

on another note why is most voting done in primary schools ,giving teachers and kids the day off, surely most communities have a gaa/community hall that the voting could be done in, causes alot of inconvenience with kids off

Nekarsulm

whelan2 wrote: »

i dont understand the presidential age one, has there ever been a president under 30 years of age?

I think it was included as a type of distraction. Bound to be more pressing changes required to the constitution than presidential age.
If you are going to have a different age for eligibility to President, as opposed to age you're allowed to vote / be elected to Dail, make it 55.

Cran

whelan2 wrote: »

on another note why is most voting done in primary schools ,giving teachers and kids the day off, surely most communities have a gaa/community hall that the voting could be done in, causes alot of inconvenience with kids off

Should be on Saturdays really...

As for the referendum a whole hearted yes here, if I could get a big lettered Yes and put in one of the fields on the road I would.

Can understand the fatigue with the referendum though, we have the other distraction of a bye-election here as well :rolleyes:

MickeyShtyles

Cran wrote: »

Should be on Saturdays really...

As for the referendum a whole hearted yes here, if I could get a big lettered Yes and put in one of the fields on the road I would.

Can understand the fatigue with the referendum though, we have the other distraction of a bye-election here as well :rolleyes:

Christ I'd nearly shoot myself in the foot if there was a bye-election as well. We have a lovely distraction of the main street in the fairly large town I grew up in of 5 1/2 weeks of a 1-way system. :O

C0N0R

Yes to marriage and tbh I haven't thought about the presidential one, gut is saying no. But in fairness the presidential role I'm Ireland, does it actually carry any weight?

whelan2

for some reason i have a notion of someone like niall from 1 direction being voted president if the age limit is lowered, think Michael d is well suited to the job

C0N0R

whelan2 wrote: »

for some reason i have a notion of someone like niall from 1 direction being voted president if the age limit is lowered, think Michael d is well suited to the job

Right I'm voting no!

whelan2

C0N0R wrote: »

Right I'm voting no!

think the role is suited to a more mature person

Greengrass1

whelan2 wrote: »

for some reason i have a notion of someone like niall from 1 direction being voted president if the age limit is lowered, think Michael d is well suited to the job

I don't think Michael d is a good president at all I would have much prefered Sean Gallagher for president

whelan2

Greengrass1 wrote: »

I don't think Michael d is a good president at all I would have much prefered Sean Gallagher for president

he's better than martin mc guinness

ganmo

whelan2 wrote: »

i dont understand the presidential age one, has there ever been a president under 30 years of age?

No there hasn't been one because all candidates under 35 are excluded because of the age rule.

I totally agree that having a one direction yolk in the aras would be a disaster...but they wouldn't be able to much in the music industry then which would be a plus

twin_beacon

Sacrolyte wrote: »

As for gay marriage I have no problem with that but I draw the line at the adoption of children into same sex marriages. It's just not right lads. It's just not right.

as it it currently stands, two non married gay people can adopt a child, the referendum has nothing to do with adoption!

Greengrass1 wrote: »

I don't think Michael d is a good president at all I would have much prefered Sean Gallagher for president

I was going to vote for Sean Gallagher until that famous prime time incident, which turned out to be a false accusation! I like Michael D though

Connemara Farmer

Are both votes on the same day?

keep going

Good to see a few people coming out of closet and admit to being interested in farming on this thread, I have been out along time and people get used to it:-).voting yes to the marriage and no to president, mind made up due to the pension comment earlier.

MrWalsh

Sacrolyte wrote: »

No for both here. On the presidential one I just don't want some celebrity flash Harry above in the Park.
As for gay marriage I have no problem with that but I draw the line at the adoption of children into same sex marriages. It's just not right lads. It's just not right.

Youre a bit behind the times. The Children and Family Relationships Act has already legalised adoptions by gay couples subject to the same stringent checks and rules as straight couples.

No matter what the outcome of the May 22nd referendum, that wont change. Voting No will only prevent same sex marriage, it will have no impact on adoption.

_Brian

Sacrolyte wrote: »

No for both here. On the presidential one I just don't want some celebrity flash Harry above in the Park.
As for gay marriage I have no problem with that but I draw the line at the adoption of children into same sex marriages. It's just not right lads. It's just not right.

Oh dear, you need to read about this some more. The coming referendum will have no change on this. It's already being happening, legally and will continue to. I personally know a couple of gay people who have adopted legally. By the way their kids are very happy and dare I say "normal"

Sam Kade

Greengrass1 wrote: »

I don't think Michael d is a good president at all I would have much prefered Sean Gallagher for president

It doesn't matter who's president as they are only ornaments in this country. Preferably the older the better less pensions to pay.

Flood

Greengrass1 wrote: »

I don't think Michael d is a good president at all I would have much prefered Sean Gallagher for president

Are you for real suggesting you would have preferred a FF bagman getting the highest position in the country?

galljga1

_Brian wrote: »

Oh dear, you need to read about this some more. The coming referendum will have no change on this. It's already being happening, legally and will continue to. I personally know a couple of gay people who have adopted legally. By the way their kids are very happy and dare I say "normal"

As we all know, there is no such thing as normal and I would not want it any other way.

Benny Reilly's cross has to be either Bunnoe or Laragh.

Timmaay

Grueller wrote: »

Will vote no to the presidential one anyway. Put a hoor on a large pension from 28 years old. You must be joking. Marriage referendum. I will vote yes. I have a great friend from childhood who is gay and in rural ireland has enough doors closed to him without this one remaining closed as well.

Why do we even have a president in Ireland, it's a pure figurehead role, they do almost nothing. Give them zero pension and let them back to work like every other Joe soap ha. And yep obvious yes on the marriage referendum.

Huntergonzo

Yes to gay marriage because it doesn't bother me in the least and a big fat X through the other stupid question of the presidents age, what a waste of time!

_Brian

galljga1 wrote: »

As we all know, there is no such thing as normal and I would not want it any other way.

Benny Reilly's cross has to be either Bunnoe or Laragh.

As a college lecturer used to say, Normal is just a statistical average, but who wants to be average

_Brian

I was following an interesting thread elsewhere about the marriage referendum.

The basics of the thread were based in the idea that there is no other reason to vote no other than homophobia.

It was interesting to see the realisation on some posters when their arguments were shown to be homophobic, quite embarrassing on them really.

Huntergonzo

_Brian wrote: »

I was following an interesting thread elsewhere about the marriage referendum.

The basics of the thread were based in the idea that there is no other reason to vote no other than homophobia.

It was interesting to see the realisation on some posters when their arguments were shown to be homophobic, quite embarrassing on them really.

Ye and sure farmers shouldn't be too worried about homosexuallaity anyway because some of the animals are very bi-curious. I grew up on a dairy farm (it's all tillage now) and years ago I saw one bull doing things to another bull which raised a lot of questions for me as a 9 year old!

whelan2

ganmo wrote: »

No there hasn't been one because all candidates under 35 are excluded because of the age rule.

I totally agree that having a one direction yolk in the aras would be a disaster...but they wouldn't be able to much in the music industry then which would be a plus

was trying to think there of any candidate under 35 that would be suitable for president, couldnt think of any

Greengrass1

Runs fir cover :eek:

MayoAreMagic

_Brian wrote: »

I was following an interesting thread elsewhere about the marriage referendum.

The basics of the thread were based in the idea that there is no other reason to vote no other than homophobia.

It was interesting to see the realisation on some posters when their arguments were shown to be homophobic, quite embarrassing on them really.

In fairness, that isn't true. Some people just have different ideas as to what a marriage is. Im not sure how Im going to vote, I mightn't vote at all actually. But what I find annoying is this attitude of 'you must be homophobic, come out of the stone age, some people are just afraid of change' nonsense. It comes across as quite arrogant.

Carazy

Connemara Farmer wrote: »

Not that it will contribute a lot to the debate but I honestly, really, and genuinely don't care. Agree with above, fed up to the hind teeth of it at this stage.

I will vote a big fat NO to the president being 21, because it's genuinely a stupid idea, if anything they should raise the voting age to 21.

You've got it spot on. I'm sick of hearing referendum this referendum that on every single forum,TV,radio and fecking light pole. I couldn't give a feck. Vote whatever way ye think and let that be it without the ranting and raving that has gone on, especially the lads that jump on every referendum thread. Tiring at this stage.

Ash.J.Williams

Sacrolyte wrote: »

No for both here. On the presidential one I just don't want some celebrity flash Harry above in the Park.
As for gay marriage I have no problem with that but I draw the line at the adoption of children into same sex marriages. It's just not right lads. It's just not right.

they can adopt already ...it's got nothing to do with the ref