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head scoops - feedback on yours

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    #32
    greysides
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 8,974 Mod ✭✭✭✭greysides


    barnaman wrote: »
    What is the "plate" on back, how far up? Where is the recommended/better area?

    The 'plate', as I know it, is the area on either side of the tail-head/sacrum on top.

    Neck would be the recommended area for an IM injection.

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    #33
    Greengrass1
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    Deepsouthwest wrote: »
    Rarely inject an animal in the muscle near the tail head, seems to be a v sensitive area, it's not uncommon to see the whole muscle there getting swollen especially after getting a shot of tylon.
    A lazy man's injection site imo

    Which muscle do you use to inject in? Muscle beside tail bone was what I was thought in college


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    #34
    Deepsouthwest
    Registered Users Posts: 2,282 ✭✭✭Deepsouthwest


    Greengrass1 wrote: »
    Which muscle do you use to inject in? Muscle beside tail bone was what I was thought in college

    Really, that's sounds crazy. Always high in the neck when it's intramuscular, cows, calves everything


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    #35
    barnaman
    Registered Users Posts: 682 ✭✭✭barnaman


    College show both seem to favour back if I recall corrctly. Less chance of injury to man and each to stick in needle first and then put in syringe. Cannot do that injecting on the neck.


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    #36
    greysides
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    #37
    patsy_mccabe
    Registered Users Posts: 10,701 ✭✭✭✭patsy_mccabe


    A true to life video at last. :D

    https://www.donedeal.ie/otherfarmmachinery-for-sale/ko-headscoop/20022752

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    #38
    visatorro
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    patsy_mccabe wrote:
    A true to life video at last.


    She's never going into a crush again!!


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    #39
    tractorporn
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    visatorro wrote:
    She's never going into a crush again!!


    I'd say the camera man was turned upside down 5 seconds after filming stopped


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    #40
    High bike
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    Would have been great craic without the head scoop


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    #41
    ABitofsense
    Registered Users Posts: 661 ✭✭✭ABitofsense


    Sorry to be resurrecting an old thread but interested in peoples opinion.

    I am about to put in a new Nugent Beef head gate and wondering is it worth the money to buy a head scoop and install it now while i'm at it. There is a huge difference in price too so what have people installed? Barretts one looks decent and i see recommended a bit


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    #42
    Sacrolyte
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    € ?


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    #43
    ABitofsense
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    Sacrolyte wrote: »
    € ?

    The barrett is ~500e & Nugent is ~600e. Just that if im doing the work on the crush now is it worth it a scoop


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    #44
    dohc turbo2
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    ABitofsense wrote: »
    Sorry to be resurrecting an old thread but interested in peoples opinion.

    I am about to put in a new Nugent Beef head gate and wondering is it worth the money to buy a head scoop and install it now while i'm at it. There is a huge difference in price too so what have people installed? Barretts one looks decent and i see recommended a bit
    I’m doing a new crush myself at the moment and it’s a nugent beef gate day m using too with head scoop it’s the iae scoop that comes with it ,


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    #45
    ABitofsense
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    When you say comes with it, does it attach directly to the gate? Would you recommend it?


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    #46
    john mayo 10
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    ABitofsense wrote: »
    Sorry to be resurrecting an old thread but interested in peoples opinion.

    I am about to put in a new Nugent Beef head gate and wondering is it worth the money to buy a head scoop and install it now while i'm at it. There is a huge difference in price too so what have people installed? Barretts one looks decent and i see recommended a bit
    We made our own one here. It's a great help for dosing, bolusing etc. It's far safer than trying to hold a beasts head. Don't worry about the cost. I installed a calving gate with headlock this year. Cost a few quid but I now regard it as the best money I have spent on the farm in years


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    zetor 4911
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    john mayo 10 wrote: »
    We made our own one here. It's a great help for dosing, bolusing etc. It's far safer than trying to hold a beasts head. Don't worry about the cost. I installed a calving gate with headlock this year. Cost a few quid but I now regard it as the best money I have spent on the farm in years

    Maybe you could put up a picture of the one you made was thinking of doing the same.


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    #48
    tanko
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    john mayo 10 wrote: »
    We made our own one here. It's a great help for dosing, bolusing etc. It's far safer than trying to hold a beasts head. Don't worry about the cost. I installed a calving gate with headlock this year. Cost a few quid but I now regard it as the best money I have spent on the farm in years

    Very true.
    Proper handling facilities are never expensive, do it once and do it right, you'll never regret it.
    What price do you put on getting seriously injured or even worse.


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    #49
    dohc turbo2
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    ABitofsense wrote: »
    When you say comes with it, does it attach directly to the gate? Would you recommend it?

    Sorry no this is the set up that the dealer I’m buying off has , it’s larry o Connor in Duagh I’m getting it off , it’s two brackets that bolts on the head scoop , nugent make the gate and the likes of condon and teemore put there own sticker on that particular gate . I’m only on the digging out part at moment but spent good bit looking at different gates and this one I like


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    john mayo 10
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    zetor 4911 wrote: »
    Maybe you could put up a picture of the one you made was thinking of doing the same.
    I will take a few pictures later and upload them


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    #51
    john mayo 10
    Registered Users Posts: 956 ✭✭✭john mayo 10


    Pic of head scoop


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    #52
    Jb1989
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    Capercaillie wrote: »
    Local vet hates them. Hard to get the vein and useless skulling cattle.

    Yea they not ideal for the vein or dehorning, but great for tagging, doseing and helping restrain the animal for injections.


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    #53
    Donald Trump
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    Jb1989 wrote: »
    Capercaillie wrote: »
    Local vet hates them. Hard to get the vein and useless skulling cattle.

    Yea they not ideal for the vein or dehorning, but great for tagging, doseing and helping restrain the animal for injections.

    If the vet doesn't like them for whatever reason sure he could just ignore it and not use it


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    #54
    grange mac
    Registered Users Posts: 865 ✭✭✭grange mac


    Lads,

    Head Scoops.... Any more feedback on them?
    Looking at Donovan Eng but 750 is serious money when compared to Barratt Eng 450.

    Which one is better regarding the head supports seems to be 2 different styles.

    Thanks GM


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    #55
    Jb1989
    Registered Users Posts: 2,432 ✭✭✭Jb1989


    grange mac wrote: »
    Lads,

    Head Scoops.... Any more feedback on them?
    Looking at Donovan Eng but 750 is serious money when compared to Barratt Eng 450.

    Which one is better regarding the head supports seems to be 2 different styles.

    Thanks GM


    I'm still happy with my wire rope ratchet version one.


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    #56
    Lime Tree Farm
    Registered Users Posts: 2,640 ✭✭✭Lime Tree Farm


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jPd555Ec88Q


    He has nice quiet animals, but our crowd would wreck this one.


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    #57
    Count Mondego
    Registered Users Posts: 963 ✭✭✭Count Mondego


    grange mac wrote: »
    Lads,

    Head Scoops.... Any more feedback on them?
    Looking at Donovan Eng but 750 is serious money when compared to Barratt Eng 450.

    Which one is better regarding the head supports seems to be 2 different styles.

    Thanks GM

    I have the Barrett one a few years and can't fault it. The Y bit is a bit wide and there's still a bit of play with the head but nothing major.


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    #58
    Gudstock
    Registered Users Posts: 171 ✭✭Gudstock


    Whats the opinions on the best head scoop for use dosing suckler cows?



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