!! ART 2015 - predictions, guesses and discussion

RingoIRL

My art teacher did a pretty half assed job of teaching us this section of the course, and I'm still not 100% sure if we're going to a gallery this month or not. Are there any good sites to study this section of the course?

Peregrine

I haven't looked but I think it'll be very hard to find any resources for art appreciation aimed specifically at Leaving Cert. There are lots of resources for art appreciation in general though. They might be your best bet.

The gallery question will be impossible to do without actually visiting a gallery so make sure your teacher brings you. It's not really something that can be learned though reading about it. The question comes up nearly every year.

Do you have a book for Art? I know a lot of people don't use one. If you do, there's usually a few pages of notes about art appreciation on them. If you don't, try and see if you can get a revision book. There's very little about this section in them but it might be worth it. Public libraries have them so see if you can borrow one (I know DCC libraries have around 30 Less Street More Success Art History books between them).

spurious

There's nothing to stop you visiting a gallery on your own.

If you ask the curator for pointers for a Leaving Cert. answer, they will more than likely have done LC Art themselves and will help you. You could visit more than one gallery and give yourself extra stuff to mention.

Peg14

Would I be all right just learning the Georgian Period for Section 1 of the exam?

Also any AH predicts post 'em!!

Red Hare

Peg14 wrote: »

Would I be all right just learning the Georgian Period for Section 1 of the exam?

Also any AH predicts post 'em!!

You would be taking a risk in that there is likely to be a Georgian question but it could be very difficult to answer.

I reckon Iron Age/La Tene stands a good chance of coming up in section I - but I would not recommend just studying that either.

Keep your options open as much as possible.

Peg14

Thanks

I suppose so, but if I know the houses and all that, I can always work my way around the Q? Especially if I pay extra attention to the other sections. For European Art I will be okay learning
*Cimabue/Giotto
*International Style (Diptych and Book of hours)
*Giberti
*Ucello
*Masaccio
*Donatello
*Brunelleschi
*Da Vinci

oktplz

I just have the pre-christian era learned for question 1. If I have a chance I might learn a few Irish artists too. I was reading a forum and that's what the guy says to do, also in the Less Stress book it says that you should know one era of each section in detail and have a basis of the other just to be sure. Not quite sure about the European section myself as its a very broad section, but you seem to have a good base. Maybe learn Van Eyck too, it's been a while since he came up.
That being said, I didn't write the exams so it's a lot of assumptions.

oktplz

RingoIRL wrote: »

My art teacher did a pretty half assed job of teaching us this section of the course, and I'm still not 100% sure if we're going to a gallery this month or not. Are there any good sites to study this section of the course?

Art Appreciation is literally Junior Certificate media studies with a touch of gallery questions. It's all about YOUR interpretation of art, and if you have the write language, eg, using words like versatile when it comes to the logos you should be set. Also if you didn't go to a gallery there are plenty of resources on National Gallery website and the Hugh Lane Gallery to make it seem as if you went to a gallery, I would just learn them and try imagine being there.

robman60

I found this thread I remembered from a couple of years ago from a 6 A1s (including art) student.

http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=86428751
I never did art so I can't assess their usefulness but I'd imagine his result suggests they're pretty solid!

eternal

I studied Fine Art then did a degree in History of Art if you need a hand.

oktplz

Does anyone have a compare and contrast pre-christian era and early christian ireland essay prepped? What do you write for it?

Red Hare

oktplz wrote: »

Does anyone have a compare and contrast pre-christian era and early christian ireland essay prepped? What do you write for it?

In relation to stonecarving - prechristian era did not alter the shape of the stone but tended to decorate instead eg - Newgrange entrance stone, Turoe stone. in the Boa Island carvings they are beginning to shape the stone more but esentially they follow the natural shape of the stone. When you get into the Christian era the sculptors are actually shaping the stone into cruciform shapes -eg the High Crosses. Also they begin to carve deeper in relief from Carndonagh High Cross where the carving is almost incised to Moone where the figures stand in relief to Monasterboice where the figures stand out bold. By the time you get to the very late crosses such as Dysart O' Dea the figures are extremely in relief.

In relation to Metalwork there is a much greater variety of techniques used in the Christian era. Enamelling, Cloisonne, filigree.

In terms of both the metalwork and stonecarving the art is predominately abstract in the Prechristian era ( there is a small amount of figurative carving in the lron Age which shows the influence of roman art through the celts trading with the romans eg - Boa island, the tandragee idol). Chrisitanity brought a much greater use of imagery representing the human and animal figures such as seen in the manuscripts and in the high crosses.

The Irish love of abstract decoration as seen inthe prechristian era from newgrange through to bronze age and La Tene contined also in the christian era , but it became more sophisticated, detailed and complex as seen in the manuscripts, the highcrosses and the metalwork such as the cross of cong, the bellshrine of st patrick ...and so on.

oktplz

Dead sound. Thanks a million!

sallyod

I am extremely confused as to what to do it the third question for my art parer. I have studied the art gallery question in detail but have done nothing else.

I am aware of past exam questions on film studies, and we completed film studies in English class as part of our comparative studies. As a result I am quite familiar with the movin the kings speech. However, Is the kings speech a suitable film to use in an art answer? It would certainly save me time if so..

Any help would be really appreciated, thank you.

spurious

Why not just do the gallery question, if you have prepared for it?

sallyod

That is my first choice but I would feel a lot more confident having an option, and it is not a guaranteed question.

dairenichat

, Would any one have an A standard gallery question? I'm really at a loss as I had to go to a gallery myself and I don't have enough material. I'm the only person in my class doing art and I'm so worried!

Please and thank you! Any help at all appreciated!

Red Hare

dairenichat wrote: »

, Would any one have an A standard gallery question? I'm really at a loss as I had to go to a gallery myself and I don't have enough material. I'm the only person in my class doing art and I'm so worried!

Please and thank you! Any help at all appreciated!

I have put up notes on my website on the Hugh Lane Galley. You may find them to be of some help http://arthistoryleavingcert.com/hugh-lane-gallery/

sallyod wrote: »

Is the kings speech a suitable film to use in an art answer? It would certainly save me time if so..

Any help would be really appreciated, thank you.

Be careful because they usually ask about visual effects/ special effects and sometimes ask about an animated film.

sallyod wrote: »

That is my first choice but I would feel a lot more confident having an option, and it is not a guaranteed question.

Nothing is ever guaranteed when it comes to the exams - saying that I cant remember when a gallery visit question has not come up!:)

sallyod

Red Hare wrote: »

Be careful because they usually ask about visual effects/ special effects and sometimes ask about an animated film.




Nothing is ever guaranteed when it comes to the exams - saying that I cant remember when a gallery visit question has not come up!:)

I think I'll review marking schemes etc. , thanks for the help though 😊

Peg14

anyone know how detailed the sketches have to be?

oktplz

Peg14 wrote: »

anyone know how detailed the sketches have to be?

Not very detailed, just as long as you have the shapes and all correct. Our teacher used to emphasise the importance of good sketches big times but then I was talking to a girl who got an A in Art and she said hers were rushed outlines and I got almost full marks for them in the mocks and they were final few minutes scribbles :P

farmermaccey

does anyone know what to study for the irish section and europena section. i am completely lost

Peg14

Ok thanks, not too worried now! Hate when we're told to spend 10 minutes on sketches, in the end they're not even worth that much, like you could get easily 5/10 for one in one minute.


For european section - I'm studying international gothic style painting, early renaissance, and da vinci, briefly looking over Michelangelo. Then for Irish I'm focusing on Georgian but will briefly know the Iron Age too just in case. Could be risky but i'll think i'll be fine, unless i'm told to talk about a house i've never even heard of!

oktplz

Not gonna lie, after reading the report on predictabilty on the examinations website, I'm a little bit scared for art.

poster2525

Any ideas for what may come up for Art History? I've already learn't an essay on the Gallery Visit.

Peg14

yeah art is one of those exams where I have no clue whether I'll be alright or not but I guess if you can answer a question from every other year you should be fine.


I think people are thinking Da Vinci/ Raphael? Then Russborough House or Bellamont Forest seeing as they've been in the news recent enough. Then the Iron Age. Masaccio as well.

oktplz

Or Van Eyck.

samg1813

OK so I'm kind of starting to panic for art history.... If I only study Gothic and Romanesque for European art will I be covered?? and just a gallery visit for the appreciation section? I'm okay for Irish art but I just don't even know where to start for European

yasminesue

is anyone doing impressionism here. do u know if you have to do 20th century art movement like fauvism all that.

catherineb3

I'm really stuck for the European section, does anybody have a set of notes on the Romanesque style? like a general essay or anything would help me loads, thanks!

Peregrine

catherineb3 wrote: »

I'm really stuck for the European section, does anybody have a set of notes on the Romanesque style? like a general essay or anything would help me loads, thanks!

Red Hare has some great notes for most popular styles and periods:

http://arthistoryleavingcert.com/romanesque/

dairenichat

Any of you who have studied Raphael in school, could you tell me which paintings you studied? And what aspects of his work you focused on ?

Is it better to study a local art gallery than say the Hugh Lane? That way you could make up floor plans/ where spot lighting is ect..and the examiner wouldn't know...

Peg14

dairenichat wrote: »

Any of you who have studied Raphael in school, could you tell me which paintings you studied? And what aspects of his work you focused on ?

Is it better to study a local art gallery than say the Hugh Lane? That way you could make up floor plans/ where spot lighting is ect..and the examiner wouldn't know...

Well you should just in a case a small-scale gallery exhibition and be able to contrast that with a larger exhibition you visited. I think it has come up before to do this.

randylonghorn

dairenichat wrote: »

Is it better to study a local art gallery than say the Hugh Lane? That way you could make up floor plans/ where spot lighting is ect..and the examiner wouldn't know...

Never assume that the examiner hasn't visited your local art gallery on her way up to visit her Auntie Biddy in hospital.

Adding a spotlight or two is unlikely to cause too many problems, but raving about the modern facilities and the interactive AV guiding equipment when in reality it's an old converted courthouse with limited accessibility and a photocopied exhibition guide may not be wise.

Shanmcg97

samg1813 wrote: »

OK so I'm kind of starting to panic for art history.... If I only study Gothic and Romanesque for European art will I be covered?? and just a gallery visit for the appreciation section? I'm okay for Irish art but I just don't even know where to start for European

My art teacher just went over gothic and romenesque with us for European and that was all and she said that it has come up every year since she did her leaving so I'd say your alright like she's covered nothing else with us on european but Roman/gothic

Shanmcg97

Should I be worried if my teacher has just done Iron/bronze/Stone Age and newgrange for Irish and romesque and gothic for European like i see a lot of people talking about galleries and other stuff on this and I literally have no clue what they're on about. Will I be covered?

Red Hare

Shanmcg97 wrote: »

Should I be worried if my teacher has just done Iron/bronze/Stone Age and newgrange for Irish and romesque and gothic for European like i see a lot of people talking about galleries and other stuff on this and I literally have no clue what they're on about. Will I be covered?

As far back as I can remember ( an thats a long time) there has always been at least one question on prechristian Ireland ( Stone/ bronze / Iron Ages). Also in the European section there always been either a Romanesque/ Gothic question.


Saying that - studying just those topics is cutting the curriculum down to the very bare bones and not giving you much of a choice. You should be covered but what if the questions on those topics are difficult ?- try to study more topics if you can.

On the topic of galleries - this comes up under section 3 - there is usually a question on a visit to a gallery or museum. If you haven't visited a gallery/,museum don't panic - there are lots of other questions of a general art knowledge nature in section 3.

Shanmcg97

Red Hare wrote: »

As far back as I can remember ( an thats a long time) there has always been at least one question on prechristian Ireland ( Stone/ bronze / Iron Ages). Also in the European section there always been either a Romanesque/ Gothic question.


Saying that - studying just those topics is cutting the curriculum down to the very bare bones and not giving you much of a choice. You should be covered but what if the questions on those topics are difficult ?- try to study more topics if you can.

On the topic of galleries - this comes up under section 3 - there is usually a question on a visit to a gallery or museum. If you haven't visited a gallery/,museum don't panic - there are lots of other questions of a general art knowledge nature in section 3.

Okay thanks very much.

PoleDaBoy

Hi, can anyone give me hints how much would I write in my LC paper?
Just want to make sure that I'll get enough points, thanks.

Peg14

3.5 pages per essay I would say! It will depend obviously on time, what comes up, but for every essay I would say this in order for you to develop your answers, expand etc

millgate1

Hey, does anyone know if it's too late to drop in Art? Long story short, I messed up my craft bad and I'm only capable of a C3 or C2 in Art history so I don't want to risk failing. Thing is I have higher level stickers put onto my craft / drawings.

Would anyone know, if it's possible firstly and if so, can I just drop on the day or must I send a heads up a day before?

Leanne713

Can we actually try and predict things that are gonna come up? For pre Christian Ireland I'm hoping for Iron Age and broighter collar to come up cause it hasn't Been up in 3 years! Hoping for romenesque architecture for European :P

PoleDaBoy wrote: »

Hi, can anyone give me hints how much would I write in my LC paper?
Just want to make sure that I'll get enough points, thanks.

I tend to write like 6 or 7 pages per questions and that's including as many diagrams as you can do

k88

Sorry if this has already been asked/answered..
Quick question for Irish Art, in class we've covered Stone Age, Bronze Age, Iron Age, Manuscripts, Metalwork and High Crosses. I absolutely despise High Crosses and I'm wondering if I'll still get a question on the paper without studying them?

I don't think they've come up on their own but is there a chance they could? Kinda need a B1/A2 in art for points so..

dairenichat wrote: »

Any of you who have studied Raphael in school, could you tell me which paintings you studied? And what aspects of his work you focused on ?

I studied Madonna Della Sedia, Small Cowper Madonna, Portrait of Leo X, School Of Athens and Madonna and the Gold Finch. I think a big aspect of Raphael's work is how he can portray the religious character's personalities through his painting..But other than that his paintings are hard to all clump together apart from his religious theme, and apart from the 3 Madonnas which in my opinion are all nearly too alike to answer a nice comparison question.

Leanne713

k88 wrote: »

Sorry if this has already been asked/answered..
Quick question for Irish Art, in class we've covered Stone Age, Bronze Age, Iron Age, Manuscripts, Metalwork and High Crosses. I absolutely despise High Crosses and I'm wondering if I'll still get a question on the paper without studying them?

I don't think they've come up on their own but is there a chance they could? Kinda need a B1/A2 in art for points so..

Well what we have done in art is stone, bronze and iron from Irish section!
Romanesque gothic something on printed manuscripts stained glass and Giotto and cimabue
And then the museum question! Realistically stone bronze Iron Age Come up every year so ul defo be covered with just them cause we are! As long as u know them inside out ul be fine, and Romanesque and gothic come up every year too so u will be fine! Stop stressing:*

k88

Leanne713 wrote: »

Well what we have done in art is stone, bronze and iron from Irish section!
Romanesque gothic something on printed manuscripts stained glass and Giotto and cimabue
And then the museum question! Realistically stone bronze Iron Age Come up every year so ul defo be covered with just them cause we are! As long as u know them inside out ul be fine, and Romanesque and gothic come up every year too so u will be fine! Stop stressing:*

Thanks girl! I asked my teacher if i could leave out crosses and she told me it was essential to study all of it...Ugh stress of her. And we've covered so many european artists..Cimabue, Giotto, Masaccio, Uccello, Botticelli, Piero della Francesca, Donatello, da Vinci, Michelangelo, Raphael and Jan Van Eyck....Starting to think she went a little over board from reading what people on here have studied!

Leanne713

k88 wrote: »

Thanks girl! I asked my teacher if i could leave out crosses and she told me it was essential to study all of it...Ugh stress of her. And we've covered so many european artists..Cimabue, Giotto, Masaccio, Uccello, Botticelli, Piero della Francesca, Donatello, da Vinci, Michelangelo, Raphael and Jan Van Eyck....Starting to think she went a little over board from reading what people on here have studied!

Well if u don't like it I wouldn't bother as long as you know the others ul be fine well ya see we only properally done Romanesque and gothic! We only did rest as backup if the questions hard! Our teacher didn't wanna do the artists because it's so unpredictable and u would have to do loads! Ya see we only got this new teacher at start of LC our other one was useless and we done no history so we had to cram in one year

Peg14

Will they ask to describe a georgian house without giving a picture? Like "describe Parliament house" I'm not talking about when they give you a choice but a straight out question like that. Will they give you the picture? I'm worreid they'll ask me to discuss a house I've never heard of. I'm pretty covered with Cassels, Pearce, Chambers and Gandon, and then a townhouse by Robert West

Leanne713

Peg14 wrote: »

Will they ask to describe a georgian house without giving a picture? Like "describe Parliament house" I'm not talking about when they give you a choice but a straight out question like that. Will they give you the picture? I'm worreid they'll ask me to discuss a house I've never heard of. I'm pretty covered with Cassels, Pearce, Chambers and Gandon, and then a townhouse by Robert West

Look at past questions and see how it's normally asked

fosterr48

Reading through here, everybody has done so much with Art History and it's actually so terrifying. My teacher didn't teach us any of these Stone Age or Bronze Age stuff or anything about all these Pre-Christian stuff or High Crosses. She didn't teach us any of the movements for European art either..

All she did throughout 5th and 6th year was make us write essays on different artists? So all we've done in total is Picasso, Degas, Seurat, Gauguin, Tony O'Malley, and Jack B. Yeats. She just said to revise those few artists that we've done and we have more than enough.

Any last minute tips for me? Really not sure what to do now....

EmilyJane2812

Section 1:
Iron Question is due up on its own
• possibly could be asked how it affected later periods so compare objects to se metalwork. So Id learn the Tara broach and Ardagh Chalice to be safe
• the development of stone-carving in pre-Christian is also due. Which means newgrange stone work and the turoe stone from the Bronze Age.
•Know the Bronze Age too to be safe

Section 2:
Romanesque architecture and sculpture is due
•know gothic as you could be asked to compare
•stain glass could make an appearance but I doubt it.

Section 3:
•make it up when you go in there

Good luck guys. Remember this is only 37.5%, youve more than likely passed already!

Peg14

how do you simplify drawing a painting?