vets who will dock tail in meath

vermin hunter

Hi lads i have a cocker and I'm hoping to breed her in the next couple of weeks. And i want to organise as much as i can i rang my local vet and explained i was putting my working cocker into pup and would want the pups tails docked and I was told they won't do it that it's illegal. I explained to the lady on the phone that it's a working breed and is exempt from the ban. But she was having none of it. So my question is do any of you have any vets that will dock tails.

hathcock

vermin hunter wrote: »

Hi lads i have a cocker and I'm hoping to breed her in the next couple of weeks. And i want to organise as much as i can i rang my local vet and explained i was putting my working cocker into pup and would want the pups tails docked and I was told they won't do it that it's illegal. I explained to the lady on the phone that it's a working breed and is exempt from the ban. But she was having none of it. So my question is do any of you have any vets that will dock tails.

No vet will dock tails,their barred from doing it by their own controlling body,but some bitches have been known to chew off the tails of their pups,I've seen it happen.

Gael23

Thats illegal since 2006

Springwell

It's not illegal for working dogs. You do need to have evidence the bitch works.

http://www.irishstatutebook.ie/pdf/2014/en.si.2014.0128.pdf

4.1 covers docking spaniels.

vermin hunter

The vet knows there working fogs she sees them during the hunting season and before it she knows well they are hunting working dogs

vermin hunter

The vet knows there working fogs she sees them during the hunting season and before it she knows well they are hunting working dogs

Springwell

Show the the legislation? Or use a different vet. Although its not illegal the vet is not obliged to dock dogs if they are morally against it.

You still need to provide the documentation even if the vet knows the dog as they've got to hold it on record for three years after the docking in case of inspections.

deerhunter1

Gael23 wrote: »

Thats illegal since 2006

What is illegal, the bitch chewing off the tails:rolleyes:;)

allan450

use a different vet she is talking through her hole.its NOT illegal i had pups done not so long ago with all the paper work

vermin hunter

allan450 wrote: »

use a different vet she is talking through her hole.its NOT illegal i had pups done not so long ago with all the paper work

We're did you get it done

allan450

i got it done in the west mate.you can always go up north if no vets will do it for you up their.some vets are just been awkward about it.The vet i use is 100 percent.

CJmasgrande

vermin hunter wrote: »

Hi lads i have a cocker and I'm hoping to breed her in the next couple of weeks. And i want to organise as much as i can i rang my local vet and explained i was putting my working cocker into pup and would want the pups tails docked and I was told they won't do it that it's illegal. I explained to the lady on the phone that it's a working breed and is exempt from the ban. But she was having none of it. So my question is do any of you have any vets that will dock tails.

Why are working breeds exempt from the ban?

andreac

allan450 wrote: »

use a different vet she is talking through her hole.its NOT illegal i had pups done not so long ago with all the paper work

It is illegal as of 6th March 2014.

Have a look.
http://www.ikc.ie/tail-docking-and-dew-claw

Luke92

andreac wrote: »

It is illegal as of 6th March 2014.

Have a look.
http://www.ikc.ie/tail-docking-and-dew-claw

Did you even read that link? It covers that working dogs are still exempt.

These are working dogs and he doesn't want it done for cosmetic reasons.

EPointer=Birdss

andreac wrote: »

It is illegal as of 6th March 2014.

Have a look.
http://www.ikc.ie/tail-docking-and-dew-claw

That's hilarious. You post a link with a single paragraph that clearly says working dogs are exempt.

I asked my local vet a month ago what's his position on it & that amongst vetinery circles. He said if it's a working dog & can be proven as such it's not an issue. Ethically he had no issue & said he believed it was safer given the injuries he's seen on undocked dogs. Proved a point for me lock, stock & 2 smoking barrels.

vermin hunter

CJmasgrande wrote: »

Why are working breeds exempt from the ban?

Because there tails get badly damaged while hunting

CJmasgrande

vermin hunter wrote: »

Because there tails get badly damaged while hunting

I had several Woking dogs with full tails never had damage to tails I think your talking bull****

snipe49

CJmasgrande wrote: »

I had several Woking dogs with full tails never had damage to tails I think your talking bull****

Good morning CJmasgrande can i ask you what breed were your dogs with undocked tails and what kind of hunting were you doing with them. ?

vermin hunter

CJmasgrande wrote: »

Why are working breeds exempt from the ban?

Because there tails get badly damaged while hunting

Springwell

CJmasgrande wrote: »

I had several Woking dogs with full tails never had damage to tails I think your talking bull****

Blatantly the legislators don't agree with you. Working dogs are exempt on humane grounds.

CJmasgrande

Springwell wrote: »

Blatantly the legislators don't agree with you. Working dogs are exempt on humane grounds.

On humane grounds yeah? so if the dog tail is mutilated or injured you can dock it then but not in advance

Springwell

No. It is done preemptively to prevent suffering. Why put the dog through the pain of injury and infection when a simple procedure can prevent it?

allan450

CJmasgrande wrote: »

I had several Woking dogs with full tails never had damage to tails I think your talking bull****

They must not have been working hard enough then.iv seen docked tails even split.so dont talk bull**** yourself.

aaakev

CJmasgrande wrote: »

I had several Woking dogs with full tails never had damage to tails I think your talking bull****

What kind of hunting were you doing with them?

aaakev

andreac wrote: »

It is illegal as of 6th March 2014.

Have a look.
http://www.ikc.ie/tail-docking-and-dew-claw

Did you not read your own link?

There is, however, a Ministerial Regulation (4) permitting Veterinary Practitioners to perform these procedures on certain breeds if the individual pup is intended to be a working dog, and provided a list of other criteria are met.

hathcock

CJmasgrande wrote: »

I had several Woking dogs with full tails never had damage to tails I think your talking bull****

What breed of working dogs do you refer to,you've been asked already,please enlighten us.

yubabill1

CJmasgrande wrote: »

On humane grounds yeah? so if the dog tail is mutilated or injured you can dock it then but not in advance

Dock a fully-grown tail? And after the dog has suffered?

You don't know what you are talking about.

Troll somewhere you know at least a little about the subject (hint; the trick is to say something contrary while remaining marginally believable).

vermin hunter

Lads any vets numbers who will do this for me.

vermin hunter

Lads any vets numbers who will do this for me.

Sparks

Mod Note: Keep it civil please folks.

Greenmachine

Definitely a touchy subject. I got stopped when, I had a dog by people, berating me because it tail was docked. When I explained that it was a rescue dog, and we had done anything to it's tail people were usually apologetic.
I will reserve from posting my opinion on using animals in a hunt, lest I infringe the hunting forum charter.