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Marriage redefinition and Childrens rights

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  • 10-04-2015 9:24pm
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    indy_man
    Registered Users Posts: 377 ✭✭


    If you get to watch all this are you still 100% sure redefining marriage in our constitution is the correct thing to do? It would be best if you watched it before slamming it, if you don't watch it at all probably best not comment.

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    efb
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    Well if Iona Chief David Quinn says it it must be true


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    indy_man
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    He is well qualified to be allowed to provide a counter argument. Anyone who defends and upholds the rights of Children should not be silenced.


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    mailforkev
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    Is that David Quinn? If so, no thanks.


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    Guy:Incognito
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    indy_man wrote: »
    Anyone who defends and upholds the rights of Children should not be silenced.
    Well, if anyone is qualified for that its hardline Catholics.


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    efb
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    indy_man wrote: »
    He is well qualified to be allowed to provide a counter argument. Anyone who defends and upholds the rights of Children should not be silenced.

    Well qualified how?

    Defending the church and their litany of child abuse for years...


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    darkpagandeath
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    efb wrote: »
    Well if Iona Chief David Quinn says it it must be true

    Plenty of legal eagles have been going on about Family law becoming a nightmare If they change the family.

    And no I don't Support Iona


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    coffee_cake
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    This isn't about children it's about people in love getting married


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    efb
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    darkpagandeath wrote: »
    Plenty of legal eagles have been going on about Family law becoming a nightmare If they change the family.

    And no I don't Support Iona

    Family law is always complex

    That law has been amended.

    But Iona can't wait to mix the two


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    efb
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    Martin Turner


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    indy_man
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    He is well informed, well balanced and feels balance is needed also in a child's life. You shoot this down straight away without giving it a chance yet you probably subscribe to every other counter argument no matter how skewed towards so called current day political correct thinking. Traditional family is a fundamental cornerstone of our civilization, give this a chance!


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    darkpagandeath
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    bluewolf wrote: »
    This isn't about children it's about people in love getting married

    True, But one is a Religious ceremony. Them Religious types get a bit touchy about it be classified the same.


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    shruikan2553
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    People dont need to be married to have children, people who are married dont have to have children either.


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    SEPT 23 1989
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    It's Friday night


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    coffee_cake
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    darkpagandeath wrote: »
    True, But one is a Religious ceremony. Them Religious types get a bit touchy about it be classified the same.

    Can be a religious ceremony
    Doesn't have to be


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    efb
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    indy_man wrote: »
    He is well informed, well balanced and feels balance is needed also in a child's life. You shoot this down straight away without giving it a chance yet you probably subscribe to every other counter argument no matter how skewed towards so called current day political correctness thinking. Traditional family is a fundamental cornerstone of our civilization, give this a chance!

    Families come in all shapes and sizes. He is not well balanced or well informed. Bases his research on unrelated papers.

    My life is more than Political Correctness. I'm equal too.


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    4zn76tysfajdxp
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    I'm also opposed to people marrying children.


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    theboy1
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    Gay couples shouldn't be allowed to adopt IMO.

    They should be afforded the right to marry absolutely, but It would be unfair on the child to have to cope with the stigma.


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    20Cent
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    35 minutes of David Quinn!
    ain't nobody got time for that!


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    Ave Sodalis
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    indy_man wrote: »
    He is well informed, well balanced and feels balance is needed also in a child's life. You shoot this down straight away without giving it a chance yet you probably subscribe to every other counter argument no matter how skewed towards so called current day political correct thinking. Traditional family is a fundamental cornerstone of our civilization, give this a chance!


    He's not that well informed... In fact, he's not well informed at all if that's the argument he has...


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    eviltwin
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    When will people stop giving Quinn oxygen, everything he says is bullish!t


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    Triangla
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    indy_man wrote: »
    Traditional family is a fundamental cornerstone of our civilization, give this a chance!

    That is correct, we are now going to add another cornerstone in the form of same sex marriage. This along with the many other cornerstones of Irish life that have developed and evolved through the ages will further enrich our lovely little country.


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    efb
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    theboy1 wrote: »
    Gay couples shouldn't be allowed to adopt IMO.

    They should be afforded the right to marry absolutely, but It would be unfair on the child to have to cope with the stigma.

    Well that law has been enacted and they can go forward for consideration for adoption like other couples. They don't get to skip the queue.


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    darkpagandeath
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    bluewolf wrote: »
    Can be a religious ceremony
    Doesn't have to be

    Traditionally In Ireland it has been Only a Religious ceremony.


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    galljga1
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    indy_man wrote: »
    He is well informed, well balanced and feels balance is needed also in a child's life. You shoot this down straight away without giving it a chance yet you probably subscribe to every other counter argument no matter how skewed towards so called current day political correct thinking. Traditional family is a fundamental cornerstone of our civilization, give this a chance!

    Please qualify what you mean by 'traditional family'.


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    SEPT 23 1989
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    eviltwin wrote: »
    everything he says is bullish!t

    yes but he should be allowed to be heard even though he is a far right catholic headbanger


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    efb
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    SEPT 23 1989 wrote: »
    yes but he should be allowed to be heard even though he is a far right catholic headbanger

    He seems to be everywhere- and Iona aren't officially campaigning...

    (They'd need to declare their donors if they were...)


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    coffee_cake
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    darkpagandeath wrote: »
    Traditionally In Ireland it has been Only a Religious ceremony.

    Except for all those couples out there having non religious ones
    http://www.irishtimes.com/news/consumer/almost-one-in-three-marriages-in-state-non-religious-1.1866981

    Re: gay parents, there was an AMA on boards recently from someone with gay parents


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    kylith
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    Can anyone summarise this for someone who doesn't fancy sitting through half and hour of this idiot? I get the feeling it's along the lines of "Gays are icky, blah, blah, against god, blah, blah, *Helen Lovejoy impression*".


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    Guy:Incognito
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    darkpagandeath wrote: »
    True, But one is a Religious ceremony. Them Religious types get a bit touchy about it be classified the same.

    It isnt. The religiony one is off the table. What with the gays being evil heathens and all. It's legal marriage (you know , the actual real one that has to happen after to showy, out front one) that it concerns,


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    coffee_cake
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    kylith wrote: »
    Can anyone summarise this for someone who doesn't fancy sitting through half and hour of this idiot? I get the feeling it's along the lines of "Gays are icky, blah, blah, against god, blah, blah, *Helen Lovejoy impression*".

    Don't forget we'll all start bullying children if their parents are gay except for the ones who didn't get bullied at all but never mind that

    Also gay people can already adopt as single parents but don't tell them


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