Kell Brook v Frankie Gavin set for May 30th

Henno30

According to Sky and the BBC - http://www.bbc.com/sport/0/boxing/32219960

boxer.fan

Henno30 wrote: »

According to Sky and the BBC - http://www.bbc.com/sport/0/boxing/32219960

Stupid fight. Backwards step for Brook. Hope there is some better ringsports on that night somewhere.

HigginsJ

boxer.fan wrote: »

Stupid fight. Backwards step for Brook. Hope there is some better ringsports on that night somewhere.

Pointless fight really. Brandon Rios lined up for late July/early August so this is nothing but a stay busy fight.

prettyboy81

Horrible & pointless fight but keeping money in house for Matchroom aka Mini Haymon!

dinorebel

HigginsJ wrote: »

Pointless fight really. Brandon Rios lined up for late July/early August so this is nothing but a stay busy fight.

Thats the main point the Dan fight went to quick and he needs another work out I would judge his ambitions on who he fights later in the year.

walshb

Gavin being so awkward and stubborn could make this a long and horrible fight. Let's hope Kell connects clean and often to end this sham early! If Bundu could have Gavin in awful trouble then surely Kell has a chance to end the fight? Kell will feel like he's getting hit by feathers in there against Gavin.

Henno30

It's an awful fight in itself but at least it's just a stay-busy fight for Brook.

The next IBF mandatory will be the interesting one. Porter has been offered an eliminator with Bradley, if that goes ahead I presume Brook would have to face the winner in the autumn.

Eddie wants Khan obviously but I imagine he'll have to forget about that for the time-being.

boxer.fan

Gavin must sell a heap of tickets or something. cant see any other reason why Hearn is pushing him. He would need one heck of an undercard to get me interested in that fight night.

cowzerp

boxer.fan wrote: »

Gavin must sell a heap of tickets or something. cant see any other reason why Hearn is pushing him. He would need one heck of an undercard to get me interested in that fight night.

Gavin is britain's only ever Amateur world champ so they expect a lot from him

walshb

cowzerp wrote: »

Gavin is britain's only ever Amateur world champ so they expect a lot from him

They expected. I don't think they expect. He has shown that he just doesn't have it at pro level. He's an amateur in the pro game.

You should be posting more, friend!

Alpha_zero

The sum total of Brook's padded record is a close decision win over an overrated Porter.

HigginsJ

Brook vs Gavin confirmed for Sky Box Office.

Henno30

Amazing that this is ppv

dinorebel

Henno30 wrote: »

Amazing that this is ppv

3 World title fights and a few 50/50's on the undercard beats the Bellew Cleverly caed if nothing else.

walshb

This has to be a late April fools? Who's on the undercard? Loma/Rigo; Wilder/Fury; Khan/JMM?

Big Ears

walshb wrote: »

This has to be a late April fools? Who's on the undercard? Loma/Rigo; Wilder/Fury; Khan/JMM?

Kevin Mitchell vs Jorge Linares-WBC Lightweight title
Lee Selby vs Evgeny Gradovich-IBF Featherweight title
Anthony Joshua vs Kevin Johnson
Rakhim Chakhkiev vs Dmytro Kucher- European Cruiserweight title
Dave Ryan vs Jon Hibbert- Commonwealth Light-Welterweight title
Scott Cardle vs Craig Evans- vacant British Lightweight title
Charlie Edwards (former GB amateur and Flyweight prospect) vs TBA

I wouldn't have a problem with this being ppv if the main event was anyway decent, but it's not. Gavin is not World title level, he lost to Bundu and in his only high level fight since he won a razor close decision vs Bradley Skeete !

If the main event was something like Brook vs Tim Bradley, I think most of us wouldn't have a problem with it being ppv, because the rest of the card is very good tbh, at least by matchroom's recent standards. But just like Bellew vs Cleverly we're lacking a proper ppv fight to headline it, and instead people are going to be conned by the Sky hype machine once again.

Talib Fiasco

Only guy I'll watch in the card is Chakhkiev. Guy is a machine. This is a waste of a training camp for Brook.

Kirby

It's likely nobody will be watching it. For the life of me, I cant understand the decision to make this PPV.

dinorebel

Kirby wrote: »

It's likely nobody will be watching it. For the life of me, I cant understand the decision to make this PPV.

Kevin Mitchell vs Jorge Linares-WBC Lightweight title
Lee Selby vs Evgeny Gradovich-IBF Featherweight title
Anthony Joshua vs Kevin Johnson

This is what makes it watchable.

Kirby

The Joshua fight wont last a round. I suppose I'd be interested in watching Selby.....but this just isnt a PPV card. We already pay subscriptions....PPV should be reserved for super fights. And none of these are.

HigginsJ

pac_man wrote: »

So I get the impression that no-one on here is giving Gavin half a chance of causing the upset here?

No chance at all, Brook is a different class.

HigginsJ

Kirby wrote: »

The Joshua fight wont last a round.

Ah it'll probably last half a dozen rounds at least. Johnson is a very durable & canny fighter. I doubt there will be too much coming back & it won't really be competitive but won't be an early blow out.

Big Ears

dinorebel wrote: »

Kevin Mitchell vs Jorge Linares-WBC Lightweight title
Lee Selby vs Evgeny Gradovich-IBF Featherweight title
Anthony Joshua vs Kevin Johnson

This is what makes it watchable.

Can't say I'm too interested in the Joshua fight, it's in no way competitive.

Mitchell vs Linares
Selby vs Gradovich
Ryder vs Blackwell

are 3 fantastic fights that I'm very interested in and they're a rare type of fight for matchroom, 50/50 (well Ryder-Blackwell is more 70/30) bouts with fighters of a high level.

Unfortunately the Chakhkiev fight is off, he's now fighting in Russia next week on the undercard of Poevtkin.

Tiger Mcilroy

dinorebel wrote: »

Kevin Mitchell vs Jorge Linares-WBC Lightweight title
Lee Selby vs Evgeny Gradovich-IBF Featherweight title
Anthony Joshua vs Kevin Johnson

This is what makes it watchable.

Watchable..sure, extra €20 on top of the sky sports subscription...not a chance.

magma69

Tiger Mcilroy wrote: »

Watchable..sure, extra €20 on top of the sky sports subscription...not a chance.

There's no value in the Sky subscription for boxing. All the good fights are PPV. Some merely decent fights are PPV (Bellew v Clev).

If you're a hard core boxing fan, Boxnation is the way to go. Look at what they've given us recently:

GGG v Monroe
Alvarez v Kirkland
Chudinov v Sturm
Beltran v Ao
Wlad v Jennings
Mathysse v Provodnikov
Lee v Quillin
Garcia v Peterson
Crawford v Dulorme and more

It blows away the dross Eddie Hearn has been shítting out in the same time frame.

walshb

I love boxing but you'd want to have your fooking head examined to be forking out for PPV for Frankie Gavin.....

Pighead

magma69 wrote: »

There's no value in the Sky subscription for boxing. All the good fights are PPV. Some merely decent fights are PPV (Bellew v Clev).

If you're a hard core boxing fan, Boxnation is the way to go. Look at what they've given us recently:

GGG v Monroe
Alvarez v Kirkland
Chudinov v Sturm
Beltran v Ao
Wlad v Jennings
Mathysse v Provodnikov
Lee v Quillin
Garcia v Peterson
Crawford v Dulorme and more

It blows away the dross Eddie Hearn has been shítting out in the same time frame.

Only problem being the majority of those fights have taken place at 4 or 5 in the morning. Sooner we sync times with America the better. Don't care if we have to live in a country that is dark in the afternoon and bright at night. We need to sync with the Yanks. Time difference is a pain in the hole.

magma69

Pighead wrote: »

Only problem being the majority of those fights have taken place at 4 or 5 in the morning. Sooner we sync times with America the better. Don't care if we have to live in a country that is dark in the afternoon and bright at night. We need to sync with the Yanks. Time difference is a pain in the hole.

Aye it's a pain alright, no denying that. At least they do some European cards too. We got the Povetkin v Perez this weekend in Russia on BN.

T-K-O

Just realised this is ppv. Sky chancing their arm after may pac. I already pay for sky and have no real issue with ppv but this card simply doesn't merit the extra cash.

The number will be awful for this.

FTA69

Brook v Gavin is PPV?? Unless it's a blockbuster Las Vegas card they're not getting any coin off me in future. F*cking jokers.

mskzri

Frankie isn't the best choice for Kell calibre.

Alpha_zero

Kell has had an entire career fighting this sort of lacklustre opposition. He has one notable victory over Porter who at the time had build up a considerable amount of hype and It was a good competitive win for Brook.

I believe Khan beats Brook comprehensively on the cards, with a wobble or two thrown in for good measure. Maybe Kell can get the KO but otherwise a dominant win for Khan.

I am worried for Gradovich as he is ripe for a robbery against Selby, his last fight against Velez he clearly won but Velez was the more marketable fighter.

Johnson is a good opponent for Josuaha defensively sound and well versed in movement against hight calibre opponents and should give joshua the rounds he needs, plus he doesn't like to punch back.

megadodge

Alpha_zero wrote: »

Kell has had an entire career fighting this sort of lacklustre opposition. He has one notable victory over Porter who at the time had build up a considerable amount of hype and It was a good competitive win for Brook.

I believe Khan beats Brook comprehensively on the cards, with a wobble or two thrown in for good measure. Maybe Kell can get the KO but otherwise a dominant win for Khan.

I am worried for Gradovich as he is ripe for a robbery against Selby, his last fight against Velez he clearly won but Velez was the more marketable fighter.

Johnson is a good opponent for Josuaha defensively sound and well versed in movement against hight calibre opponents and should give joshua the rounds he needs, plus he doesn't like to punch back.

You should be worrying because Selby will beat him convincingly.

Chris_Bradley

Still can't believe they're trying to get fans to buy this as a one-off..... Khan v Brook perhaps, but this is a Saturday night Sky Sports bout at best lol.

Alpha_zero

megadodge wrote: »

You should be worrying because Selby will beat him convincingly.

Gradovich has more than enough to grind down Selby. Fighting mediocre opposition tends to create the illusion you're better than you are.

Deiseboy01

Alpha_zero wrote: »

Gradovich has more than enough to grind down Selby. Fighting mediocre opposition tends to create the illusion you're better than you are.

I'd go along with that, Shelby is over hyped, he's looked good against very limited fighters but has also been unimpressive against average fighters.

Saying that Gradovich may be a bit straightforward to beat him so I'm going for Shelby on points.

walshb

I think Selby is overrated at this time. I will wait till he starts beating real quality and then make a real assessment on him at world and elite level.

walshb

pac_man wrote: »

He's in a real tough division and probably lacks power to be a real force in the division.He's really nice to watch though.

Was reading that he's on a 1200kcal/day diet for this camp. No wonder he looks skeletal.

I am not surprised with the diet. He is a big FW. I am rooting for Gradovich. I don't like Sleby all that much, and his showboating is a real turn off.

megadodge

Alpha_zero wrote: »

Gradovich has more than enough to grind down Selby. Fighting mediocre opposition tends to create the illusion you're better than you are.

Well, I guess we'll see Saturday.

Big Ears

I see Selby vs Gradovich as a 50/50 (in a neutral venue), with Selby having a good edge being the matchroom fighter.
Selby has looked very good at times, but guys like Brunker and Koasicha are many levels below a guy like Gradovich.

Selby has at times had the chance to finish guys in fights and either dragged it out, or failed to do so. He can't afford to do the same here, because Gradovich will keep coming hard for as long as he's in there, and I think he'll take a lot of rounds down the stretch after Selby starting strong.

megadodge

I think Gradovich's straight-ahead style is tailor-made for Selby.
He's not hard to hit and isn't exactly complicated offensively.
He has a very good engine, but doesn't hit particularly hard and I think he'll have major problems cutting the ring off.
I see a clear and fair decision for Selby.

Alpha_zero

megadodge wrote: »

I think Gradovich's straight-ahead style is tailor-made for Selby.
He's not hard to hit and isn't exactly complicated offensively.
He has a very good engine, but doesn't hit particularly hard and I think he'll have major problems cutting the ring off.
I see a clear and fair decision for Selby.

I guess we will see Saturday.

efb

Why is this PPV?

Big Ears

efb wrote: »

Why is this PPV?

Because they think they can get away with it.
Bellew vs Cleverly was ppv....and they got away with that

walshb

Big Ears wrote: »

Because they think they can get away with it.
Bellew vs Cleverly was ppv....and they got away with that

What constitutes getting away with it? They didn't get away with it with myself and others. I wonder what the figures were for the PVV on the Bellew card?

The card tomorrow seems a nice card of boxing. I see that. But, not close to PPV material. I guess the Bellew card figures were good enough for them to try it on this card?

Talib Fiasco

Kell Brook is PPV worthy due to having such a lucrative belt in the biggest division in boxing as well as being undefeated and British, therefore every fight he has will most likely be PPV regardless of who he is fighting.

walshb

Talib Fiasco wrote: »

Kell Brook is PPV worthy due to having such a lucrative belt in the biggest division in boxing as well as being undefeated and British, therefore every fight he has will most likely be PPV regardless of who he is fighting.

Sorry, that is bollix!

Big Ears

walshb wrote: »

What constitutes getting away with it? They didn't get away with it with myself and others. I wonder what the figures were for the PVV on the Bellew card?

The card tomorrow seems a nice card of boxing. I see that. But, not close to PPV material. I guess the Bellew card figures were good enough for them to try it on this card?

Making a profit, and while I have no idea of ppv buys for Bellew-Clev you can bet they made money off that card if they're trying this.

megadodge

It's a disgrace that this is PPV. Lucky I'm going to a wedding today, as knowing me I'd probably pay out at the last minute just to see the very good undercard.

I would be particularly looking forward to seeing Linares and Selby. I think Linares is one of the most perfect technical boxers in the whole of boxing. While there's an air of vulnerability about him, I don't think it's quite as bad as has often been made out and when he boxes at his best he's a joy to watch.

supersean1999

This starts at 5 or something . Is that right? Must be the longest boxing show ever on TV

clubwelly

Missed it pacman.

Ryder Blackwell is turning out to be more even now