This weeks Classic Irish bargains that I'm not buying

oceanman

unkel wrote: »

And they were all butchers

most were, but I have come across one or two very good conversions in my time, few and far between though.

Duke O Smiley

Duke O Smiley wrote: »

https://www.donedeal.ie/vintagecars-for-sale/1963-ford-consul-classic/24801194



An absolute bargain at €3k

Sold already.

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outfox

Jaguar XJ coupe. Seems very cheap, at least in comparison with UK prices.

https://www.donedeal.ie/vintagecars-for-sale/jaguar-xjc/24793902

unkel

con747 wrote: »

Renault 9 Biarritz mk1 https://www.donedeal.ie/vintagecars-for-sale/renault-9-biarritz-mk1/24798454

Nice. But why would he lie?

"The only down fall with the car is that there is not test due to the nct closures"

Does he think we are stupid? The car had no NCT before the outbreak of COVID-19 or any NCT closures. Or last year.

con747

unkel wrote: »

Nice. But why would he lie?

"The only down fall with the car is that there is not test due to the nct closures"

Does he think we are stupid? The car had no NCT before the outbreak of COVID-19 or any NCT closures. Or last year.

It was due an NCT on 19/08/2019. Not sure why he said what he said though.

RobAMerc

outfox wrote: »

Jaguar XJ coupe. Seems very cheap, at least in comparison with UK prices.

https://www.donedeal.ie/vintagecars-for-sale/jaguar-xjc/24793902

Yes, very cheap I think

RobAMerc

this looks ok

firsta

elperello

unkel wrote: »

Nice. But why would he lie?

"The only down fall with the car is that there is not test due to the nct closures"

Does he think we are stupid? The car had no NCT before the outbreak of COVID-19 or any NCT closures. Or last year.

It's not necessarily a lie.

The car may have been out of use over the winter and can't be NCT'd now when he wants to sell.

He clearly states no NCT which is fair enough. It's all anyone need to know unless interested in the car. In which case a few questions would clear up the matter.

kev1.3s

Has anybody any real information on the Renault 9?

con747

Apart from the seller saying he couldn't NCT it due to the test centres being closed all else looks good to me, he may well have valid reasons as pointed out. I know if it was in the midlands it would be in my shed by now though:(

chillyspoon

elperello wrote: »

It's not necessarily a lie.

I agree, particularly as it's entire possible that the NCT lifts thing is about this:

https://www.ncts.ie/1115 (expand the: "Temporary Suspension of Vehicle Inspection Lift in NCTS - Update" item).

Anyone caught out by this before the lockdown could have a partially or un-NCT'd car with a defunct NCT cert.

Tzardine

RobAMerc wrote: »

this looks ok

firsta

I am going to guess that the rust is quite bad on that. I have a Mk2. They tend to rust badly in a lot of hidden areas. That one is showing some obvious rust on the body, so I would be very careful about whats lies beneath.

JabbaTheHut

chillyspoon wrote: »

I agree, particularly as it's entire possible that the NCT lifts thing is about this:

https://www.ncts.ie/1115 (expand the: "Temporary Suspension of Vehicle Inspection Lift in NCTS - Update" item).

Anyone caught out by this before the lockdown could have a partially or un-NCT'd car with a defunct NCT cert.

Thing is, the car was due it's NCT in the middle of last summer. That's long before any lift problems, or Covid closures.
So last May, or June, the owner knew to get the car ready for it's upcoming test, but never did. Plus, it's only due every 2 years, so it would mean it's next NCT would be August 2021. That's an incentive in itself. And it also means it's last NCT was August 2017 as it stands now. 3 years ago. And if it was parked up for the winter, it was parked since the middle of summer.

The ad makes it sound like "if only for this covid thing, it'd have an NCT".

CoBo55

Jesus lads can we drop the R9 Nct talk.. please.

RobAMerc

outfox wrote: »

Jaguar XJ coupe. Seems very cheap, at least in comparison with UK prices.

https://www.donedeal.ie/vintagecars-for-sale/jaguar-xjc/24793902

CoBo55 wrote: »

Jesus lads can we drop the R9 Nct talk.. please.

100%

I dont get why this hasnt people on here fuzzing - its a proper classic at what seems like very reasonable money !

If only I hadnt 3 cars in the drive, 1 in uk and a large chunk of change and time invested in a build project, I would be making a trip!

Seweryn

1986? How did that happen?
And how did it gain the extra power claimed?

https://www.donedeal.ie/vintagecars-for-sale/mb-w124-300d-24v-110kw-vintage/24817031

Esel

Seweryn wrote: »

1986? How did that happen?
And how did it gain the extra power claimed?

https://www.donedeal.ie/vintagecars-for-sale/mb-w124-300d-24v-110kw-vintage/24817031

Wild guess - turbo?

Seweryn

Esel wrote: »

Wild guess - turbo?

No.

That engine was not available with a turbocharger in the 124 series.

Secondly, turbocharged models were only available as LHD.

welder

Seweryn wrote: »

No.

That engine was not available with a turbocharger in the 124 series.

Secondly, turbocharged models were only available as LHD.

Well an '86 wouldn't come with 'Sacco boards' either so its pretty obvious that that one has had a comprehensive 'update' to a later spec so its not beyond the realms of possibility its had a engine swop too !

KevRossi

The standard Merc DT would not comfortably fit in RHD due to the position of the steering rack. Some companies did conversions with a different kind of turbo, though these are very rare. I've seen a couple of LHD turbos that have been upgraded with different intercoolers and extra oil coolers, I think the company that did them was Swedish/Danish? You'd see them with a stall at large agricultural trade fairs in Germany in the 1990's. Not sure how many they ever sold, but they had performance figures way better than MB at the time.

That car has had the complete interior and exterior swapped and has been resprayed to a 1992- colour. Mad amount of time and money spent on it to get a later looking car on a ZV plate. So much time and money, it just doesn't make much sense.

Unless....

911s

KevRossi wrote: »

The standard Merc DT would not comfortably fit in RHD due to the position of the steering rack. Some companies did conversions with a different kind of turbo, though these are very rare. I've seen a couple of LHD turbos that have been upgraded with different intercoolers and extra oil coolers, I think the company that did them was Swedish/Danish? You'd see them with a stall at large agricultural trade fairs in Germany in the 1990's. Not sure how many they ever sold, but they had performance figures way better than MB at the time.

That car has had the complete interior and exterior swapped and has been resprayed to a 1992- colour. Mad amount of time and money spent on it to get a later looking car on a ZV plate. So much time and money, it just doesn't make much sense.

Unless....

Quite clear from the pictures that it’s got a turbo, but no intercooler. If it’s a 3 litre as stated then it’s got an OM606 which will easily make that power.
Turbo can be fitted to RHD by modifying the exhaust manifold.

Seweryn

911s wrote: »

Quite clear from the pictures that it’s got a turbo, but no intercooler.

No, it does not have a turbo. Where can you see it on the photo? It is a normally aspirated OM606 that likely came with the car.

911s wrote: »

If it’s a 3 litre as stated then it’s got an OM606 which will easily make that power.

No it can't. The OM606 has about 100 kW in that form.

911s wrote: »

Turbo can be fitted to RHD by modifying the exhaust manifold.

Probably, but this one does not have it fitted.

26000 Elephants

Far easier to grind out a chassis number and seam in a new one.

Problem solved.

911s

My bad, looking at photos on phone it looked like a turbo between header tank and engine, still possible to easily increase power especially if it has mechanical pump, plenty black smoke.

hi5

The OM603 was 3 litre non turbo, I don't think they were in RHD in 1986 though.
I had a '91 it had an OM603 no turbo, It didn't have that body moulding or the vents on the front wing either.

Seweryn

hi5 wrote: »

The OM603 was 3 litre non turbo, I don't think they were in RHD in 1986 though.

OM603 was available in 1986. OM606 as in the ad was from 1993 up.

not2be

26000 Elephants wrote: »

Far easier to grind out a chassis number and seam in a new one.

Problem solved.

its down on cartell as a 200d (2.0) which will invalidate your insurance as the car is a 3.0......

aside from all the obvious things if you look at the dash it has a passenger airbag which became available as an option in late 1988 (according to Wikipedia)....

Obviously you have the fraud aspect, worse still tho I would hate to think about anyone buying this car as there could potentially be a stolen vehicle in the mix...... (that's if it is what it looks like etc)

Duke O Smiley

https://www.donedeal.ie/vintagecars-for-sale/1984-audi-80-b2-turbo-diesel-one-owner/24792890?campaign=3



This looks like it could be a nice little project for €1500

1 owner original Irish Audi 80 turbo diesel

welder

Duke O Smiley wrote: »

https://www.donedeal.ie/vintagecars-for-sale/1984-audi-80-b2-turbo-diesel-one-owner/24792890?campaign=3



This looks like it could be a nice little project for €1500

1 owner original Irish Audi 80 turbo diesel

Always liked that model 80, and especially the 90. A friends dad had a red 90, ZG987, which I drove a couple of times and it was a revelation compared to the stuff I was driving at the time, very smooth and quick !

RobAMerc

my dad had an '86 - 90. It was a cracking car and the 5 pot sounded awsome. but in the end it gave a stack of trouble. Broke down twice on the way to the dealer on the day we were selling it - Dad forgot to mention it on arrival at the dealer