Saturday 4th April Joshua+Stevenson

Johner

Upset on the cards here. Simmons is about to get KO'd.

Johner

And that's that, pretty poor quality but decent viewing.

HigginsJ

What time is the Stevenson fight?

Johner

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vsr2rgubY5g

Brutal KO.

Johner

HigginsJ wrote: »

What time is the Stevenson fight?

Now I think.

HigginsJ

Johner wrote: »

Now I think.

Yea just switched on.

Johner

HigginsJ wrote: »

Yea just switched on.

Was surprised it was on so early but a nice treat!

HigginsJ

pac_man wrote: »

Anyone know why the Stevenson card is on early?

Very odd as it's 4pm there.

Johner

Stevenson in control.

Johner

Dan Rafael ‏@danrafaelespn
To all those asking why is #boxing on so early learn your history. It was staple of weekend network afternoon TV for decades. #StevensonBika

HigginsJ

pac_man wrote: »

Must be something to do with Haymon .The 4pm slot does nothing for the atmosphere.

Yea it's dead in there. Bika looks in real trouble with Stevensons power.

Johner

Stevenson is in cruise control.

HigginsJ

Johner wrote: »

Stevenson is in cruise control.

Yea easy stuff for him.

HigginsJ

Bika is one tough cookie, taken some savage shots really well. Stevenson is a terribly dislikable character.

Johner

He can't miss with the left.

Johner

Bika is one tough man.

Johner

That punch would have finished many.

the whole year inn

What time is the Joshua fight?

Johner

the whole year inn wrote: »

What time is the Joshua fight?

10.15pm and it will be over at around 10.17pm. :pac:

HigginsJ

Johner wrote: »

10.15pm and it will be over at around 10.17pm. :pac:

48 seconds past 10.15pm.

Johner

Can't wait for Stevenson - Kovalev!

HigginsJ

Johner wrote: »

Can't wait for Stevenson - Kovalev!

Yea should be a good one, I would fancy Kovalev with a KO win late on.

Johner

pac_man wrote: »

Does it change your opinion having watched Stevenson tonight?

Not really, this fight has gone exactly how I expected really but it's still impressive by Stevenson.

pac_man wrote: »

Don't like that showboating.

Yeah, no need for it.

menoscemo

pac_man wrote: »

Does it change your opinion having watched Stevenson tonight?

yeah, I thought Stevenson would stop Bika.

I think Stevenson is way too lazy for Kovalev tbh.

HigginsJ

menoscemo wrote: »

yeah, I thought Stevenson would stop Bika.

I think Stevenson is way too lazy for Kovalev tbh.

Bika has never been stopped, he took shots tonight that would have taken out most fighters.

Johner

115-111, 116-110 and 115-110?

What fight were they watching? With two 10-8 rounds. :eek:

HigginsJ

pac_man wrote: »

115-111. Thats a scary scorecard.

Especially considering Stevenson was at home. He had two 10-8 rounds so they split the remaining rounds??

menoscemo

HigginsJ wrote: »

Bika has never been stopped, he took shots tonight that would have taken out most fighters.

Pascal had never been stopped either and that's mostly against LHWs

Johner

Here's the Beterbiev KO.

HigginsJ

Johner wrote: »

Here's the Beterbiev KO.

The power these 3 guys carry is unreal. Kovalev against Stevenson & then Beterbiev are fights to look forward to.

Johner

Bang.

HigginsJ

Johner wrote: »

Bang.

:eek:

HigginsJ

Joshua weighed in 5lb heavier tonight than for his last fight. He obviously has a great physique but I would worry that too much muscle could affect his stamina when he gets into fights with guys who will take him the distance.

efb

Joshua fight now

efb

This guy doesn't look like much

HigginsJ

efb wrote: »

This guy doesn't look like much

Probably shown more than any of Joshua's other punch bags.

Johner

Over in the third surely.

Johner

pac_man wrote: »

Pointless exercise other than building his profile.

Think it was just to get a fight in before Kevin Johnson next month, coming back from an injury.

Talib Fiasco

Joshua is brainless....very poor man's Wilder. Throwing punches after the bell and when an opponent is down is just not on. Very lucky not to get DQ'd there. He'll get found out soon enough....fighting nothing but tin cans.

Johner

Talib Fiasco wrote: »

Joshua is brainless....very poor man's Wilder. Throwing punches after the bell and when an opponent is down is just not on. Very lucky not to get DQ'd there. He'll get found out soon enough....fighting nothing but tin cans.

Wilder fought Joshua's opponent two fights ago! Not sure how you can say he'll get found out soon enough? What's that based on?

HigginsJ

Talib Fiasco wrote: »

Joshua is brainless....very poor man's Wilder. Throwing punches after the bell and when an opponent is down is just not on. Very lucky not to get DQ'd there. He'll get found out soon enough....fighting nothing but tin cans.

Stupid move but wouldn't be too hard on the kid.

I would question the brainless criticism, he showed good patience & used his jab. Wilder fought nothing but "tin cans" (including Gavern the fight before Stiverne). He has the power & size to be the real deal at HW. Time will tell but for now he is doing all that can be expected.

Talib Fiasco

Johner wrote: »

Wilder fought Joshua's opponent two fights ago! Not sure how you can say he'll get found out soon enough? What's that based on?

When he fights real opposition. Wilder is no prize pig himself and they're quite comparable but Wilder took apart with ease a good HW in Stiverne, a guy who can bang. I am certain once Joshua meets a guy who can punch he'll be dumped on his ass.

Talib Fiasco

pac_man wrote: »

At what level do you think he should be fighting at or even better name someone that you would have matched him against tonight?

Arreola, Charr, Szpilka, Takam...guys like that. He's ranked above some of them in the rankings as far as I am aware so why go after a guy like Johnson. Sure he is a step up but he'll learn nothing from it. Sparring would be better than the fights he's been having. A loss wouldn't hurt him too bad as the hype is very real and won't fade too much.

HigginsJ

Talib Fiasco wrote: »

Arreola, Charr, Szpilka, Takam...guys like that. He's ranked above some of them in the rankings as far as I am aware so why go after a guy like Johnson. Sure he is a step up but he'll learn nothing from it. Sparring would be better than the fights he's been having. A loss wouldn't hurt him too bad as the hype is very real and won't fade too much.

Joshua only started boxing at 18 so he has an awful lot to learn. Johnson won't offer much but he will be awkward & might take AJ into the 2nd half of the fight, that will do him much more than sparring.

Talib Fiasco

HigginsJ wrote: »

Joshua only started boxing at 18 so he has an awful lot to learn. Johnson won't offer much but he will be awkward & might take AJ into the 2nd half of the fight, that will do him much more than sparring.

Doesn't apply to Heavyweights though. Jennings the guy who's fighting Wlad took up boxing in his mid 20's. Numerous successful HW's have started late. And Joshua has every gift at his hand.

I would be impressed to an extent if he KO'd Johnson. He's a tough cookie who has survived bad beatings before. But he isn't known as safety pin for nothing, he's a mobile punching bag and nothing else.

HigginsJ

Talib Fiasco wrote: »

Doesn't apply to Heavyweights though. Jennings the guy who's fighting Wlad took up boxing in his mid 20's. Numerous successful HW's have started late. And Joshua has every gift at his hand.

I would be impressed to an extent if he KO'd Johnson. He's a tough cookie who has survived bad beatings before. But he isn't known as safety pin for nothing, he's a mobile punching bag and nothing else.

Didn't know that. Johnson is an ideal learning fight, little danger of losing but should learn a lot & like you point out might impress people if he KO's him. He has gone the distance with Charr, Chisora & Fury in the last few years so it is a good reference point.

It's also worth remembering how much Joshua is potentially worth to Hearn. We all want to see him up at a higher level (some to see him exposed, others who think he will thrive there) but Hearn is going to manage him very carefully.

Talib Fiasco

Hubringstring wrote: »

What are people's opinion here on Joshua's muscle mass? Is there a case to make for him losing some muscle to increase his speed and endurance?

He does look more like a bodybuilder than boxer alright and he does appear sluggish carrying all that bulk around. Then again Wlad physique is very impressive too although he appears to handle it a lot better. I think an issue with stamina is definitely at play with Joshua and it may be recommended he stays off the heavyweight to improve other aspects of boxing other than power.