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Going rate for teenage help?

  • 04-04-2015 1:11pm
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,130 ✭✭✭


    One of the neighbour teenagers has been helping me out in my front garden to earn some pocket money. Not sure how old he is - maybe 15? The work has been a lot of digging and scraping and has been a big help. What would people pay per hour?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,903 ✭✭✭frozenfrozen


    teach them a lesson and shout no contract no obligation now get off my lawn you punk


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,011 ✭✭✭Tugboats


    mel.b wrote: »
    One of the neighbour teenagers has been helping me out in my front garden to earn some pocket money. Not sure how old he is - maybe 15? The work has been a lot of digging and scraping and has been a big help. What would people pay per hour?

    Is it just for the day? I wouldnt bother with exact hourly pay but if he did a days work I would give him 50 quid.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,299 ✭✭✭✭The Backwards Man


    Call him into the house. Tell him to put out his hand. Put a euro in it. Look at him. Put another in it. Look at him again. Put another in it and look at him again and ask 'Are you not going to tell me to stop?'. Usually shames them into saying yes but if it doesn't give him one more euro and that'll do him.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,447 ✭✭✭✭One eyed Jack


    Per hour?

    Surely you must have some idea? Is it a big garden? Is the work a one-off? etc.

    Sure anywhere between twenty and fifty euro I suppose.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,130 ✭✭✭mel.b


    Tugboats wrote: »
    Is it just for the day? I wouldnt bother with exact hourly pay but if he did a days work I would give him 50 quid.

    About 4.5hrs solid yesterday and is back today doing a couple more


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,934 ✭✭✭Renegade Mechanic


    Call him into the house. Tell him to put out his hand. Put a euro in it. Look at him. Put another in it. Look at him again. Put another in it and look at him again and ask 'Are you not going to tell me to stop?'. Usually shames them into saying yes but if it doesn't give him one more euro and that'll do him.

    Tight c*nt :D

    If he worked good and hard for it, 50 quid is fair.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,246 ✭✭✭alroley


    When I was babysitting as a teenager(about 6 years ago) I used to get around 8 an hour. But, that would only be for around 5-6 hours at a time.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,056 ✭✭✭_Redzer_


    Flash the young lad one boob per hour, and build up to getting both your baps out simultaneously at the end of the day as the final reward.
    He won't be disappointed.

    Unless you've mangled, wonky tits or something


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,088 ✭✭✭aaakev


    mel.b wrote: »
    About 4.5hrs solid yesterday and is back today doing a couple more

    €50 would be grand I'd say! Decent bit of cash for a young lad


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,299 ✭✭✭✭The Backwards Man


    Tugboats wrote: »
    Is it just for the day? I wouldnt bother with exact hourly pay but if he did a days work I would give him 50 quid.
    Per hour?

    Surely you must have some idea? Is it a big garden? Is the work a one-off? etc.

    Sure anywhere between twenty and fifty euro I suppose.
    Tight c*nt :D

    If he worked good and hard for it, 50 quid is fair.
    Fcuk sake, if there were more egits like youse in the world I'd be tempted to give up my job and go around delving gardens.:pac:


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,011 ✭✭✭Tugboats


    Fcuk sake, if there were more egits like youse in the world I'd be tempted to give up my job and go around delving gardens.:pac:

    the lad is doing 6.5hrs work and is a neighbour of the op. 50e is decent and right


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,130 ✭✭✭mel.b


    Per hour?

    Surely you must have some idea? Is it a big garden? Is the work a one-off? etc.

    Sure anywhere between twenty and fifty euro I suppose.

    Either per hour or all together. It's not a massic garden bed, not sure how big actually. His sister actually volunteered him - I was out scraping it yesterday and she said if I need some help he wants to earn some pocket money. He's offered to also help me spread the topsoil when I get it and dig holes for the plants when they go in (which is a massive job as the ground is full of rocks - we dug out one yesterday that was just below the surface that easily weighs 30kg :eek:)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,113 ✭✭✭shruikan2553


    1 hour with a thai hooker


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,299 ✭✭✭✭The Backwards Man


    Tugboats wrote: »
    the lad is doing 6.5hrs work and is a neighbour of the op. 50e is decent and right
    When I was a lad, neighbours were neighbours
    When I was a lad, doing you favours
    People giving people a hand, no matter how small
    When I was a lad, dolly mixtures
    When I was a lad, Saturday pictures
    When I was a lad, those were the greatest days of all


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,386 ✭✭✭✭rubadub


    may be of help, if you want a lower limit
    Minimum Wage in Ireland 2015
    Posted on February 2, 2015
    Minimum Wage Levels have not risen in Ireland since 2007 .

    These are the legal minimum rates of pay in place in Ireland for 2015

    Experienced adult worker €8.65 per hour

    Over 19 and in 2nd year of first employment €7.79

    Over 18 and in first year of first employment €6.92

    Aged under 18 €6.06 per hour

    Trainees:

    Employee aged over 18, in structured training during working hours

    1st one third of course €6.49 an hour

    2nd third of course €6.92

    3rd part of course €7.79


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,436 ✭✭✭c_man


    Fifty quid in cash, or thirty euro worth of booze bought for him.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,011 ✭✭✭Tugboats


    rubadub wrote: »
    may be of help, if you want a lower limit

    :o
    Its a neighbour helping do her garden. Shes not hiring him as an employee. Should she make him clock in and out?

    50 quid and be done with it


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,643 ✭✭✭RollieFingers


    When I was a lad, neighbours were neighbours
    When I was a lad, doing you favours
    People giving people a hand, no matter how small
    When I was a lad, dolly mixtures
    When I was a lad, Saturday pictures
    When I was a lad, those were the greatest days of all

    Put a sock in it old-timer :rolleyes:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,934 ✭✭✭Renegade Mechanic


    When I was a lad, neighbours were neighbours
    When I was a lad, doing you favours
    People giving people a hand, no matter how small
    When I was a lad, dolly mixtures
    When I was a lad, Saturday pictures
    When I was a lad, those were the greatest days of all

    I'd say when you were a lad, a car wouldn't take a tenner. Now a tenner wouldn't do a car for a day :(

    Agree with your sentiment but those days are loooooooooooong gone.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,934 ✭✭✭MarkAnthony


    Is it American Dad where the Estate Agent gets the lads to do up the house for free leading them on that she's gonna shag them.

    They don't call it 'leading him down the garden path for nothing' OP ;)

    Seriously though €50 seems about right for 6 hours so so hard work.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,447 ✭✭✭✭One eyed Jack


    mel.b wrote: »
    Either per hour or all together. It's not a massic garden bed, not sure how big actually. His sister actually volunteered him - I was out scraping it yesterday and she said if I need some help he wants to earn some pocket money. He's offered to also help me spread the topsoil when I get it and dig holes for the plants when they go in (which is a massive job as the ground is full of rocks - we dug out one yesterday that was just below the surface that easily weighs 30kg :eek:)


    Ah fair play to him, sure split the difference and call it €30 :)

    For a 15 year old that's doing well, and it'll encourage him to want to help you out again at some stage and keep him enthusiastic about working for something.

    My own young lad is ten and he earns his pocket money by helping out the car park attendant down in the car park, he usually takes the tickets off the drivers as they're going out and takes the money off them, checks out their ticket, and the drivers let him keep the change. I was a bit reluctant about it at the start, but it's now become something of a weekend 'job' for him, and during his summer holidays he does it full time, makes quite a bit for himself and it teaches him a good work ethic and the value of money :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,592 ✭✭✭✭kneemos


    Forty Euros going once,any advance on forty Euros?

    Forty five from the gentleman in the red jumper.

    Any advance on forty five?

    Going once.

    Going twice.

    There in the back,fifty Euros.
    Fifty Euros once.

    Fifty Euros twice.
    Don't be shy now.

    Fifty Euros three times.
    Are we done at fifty Euros?

    Sold for fifty Euros.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,243 ✭✭✭✭Jesus Wept


    Ah fair play to him, sure split the difference and call it €30 :)

    For a 15 year old that's doing well, and it'll encourage him to want to help you out again at some stage and keep him enthusiastic about working for something.

    My own young lad is ten and he earns his pocket money by helping out the car park attendant down in the car park, he usually takes the tickets off the drivers as they're going out and takes the money off them, checks out their ticket, and the drivers let him keep the change. I was a bit reluctant about it at the start, but it's now become something of a weekend 'job' for him, and during his summer holidays he does it full time, makes quite a bit for himself and it teaches him a good work ethic and the value of money :)

    30 quid for 6.5 hours work? No.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 491 ✭✭Dozer Dave


    €50 and put €10 into his pension fund.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,130 ✭✭✭mel.b


    Thanks all :) €50 it is and that seems fair and what I had been thinking as well


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,447 ✭✭✭✭One eyed Jack


    30 quid for 6.5 hours work? No.


    It sounds like physical labour though, not like he was sitting around on his tod doing nothing. Even at that - €5 an hour, for a 15 year old?

    Sounds fair from where I'm standing?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,328 ✭✭✭conorh91


    50 quid is fair. It's just about the headline rate for minimum wage for six hours' work, and will teach him the benefit of hard work paying off.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,592 ✭✭✭✭kneemos


    It sounds like physical labour though, not like he was sitting around on his tod doing nothing. Even at that - €5 an hour, for a 15 year old?

    Sounds fair from where I'm standing?

    As a once off fifty is grand.If it was a regular thing negotiations would be had for sure.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,077 ✭✭✭✭vienne86


    50 is a nice few bucks for a 15 year old, and it sounds like he'll earn it, which is no harm.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,513 ✭✭✭bb1234567


    If I was 15 and worked 6 hours Id be delighted with anything over 30. 15 year olds will be happy with anything over 30 euro I guarantee you


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,689 ✭✭✭Tombi!


    Depending on how difficult (both physically and mentally) the work is, how long it took (was he fast/slow/did it in a time you'd expect yourself to do it) and how nice you're feeling (and if it'll have him needing to do it often or just a one off or every month or so), anywhere from 5-15 an hour.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,689 ✭✭✭Tombi!


    I'd say you might have a decent enough deal there with him if he wants to do more, actually. If any of your friends need someone to help out, recommend him and tell them how much you gave him. You might not need more from him but if others do, you're putting him on a good path to a good work ethic.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,717 ✭✭✭YFlyer


    OP did you not ask him? 'tell me what you want, what you really,really want.'


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,373 ✭✭✭✭foggy_lad


    Tugboats wrote: »
    Is it just for the day? I wouldnt bother with exact hourly pay but if he did a days work I would give him 50 quid.

    €50 is far too much for a bit of gardening!

    OP Give him €25-€30 and he should be happy. if he puts a face on let him know you will get someone else the next time.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,500 ✭✭✭✭DEFTLEFTHAND


    50 quid sounds fair.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,133 ✭✭✭FloatingVoter


    €50 is fair. He's probably already sold the details of your house onto some mates of his who do a spot of burglary. So he'll be fine in the end.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 692 ✭✭✭fuerte1976


    Careful now or you'll have the crowd on lookin is he gonna pay tax..
    50e IF he worked for it. Remember you had to earn bones of 100e for that 50e..


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 491 ✭✭Dozer Dave


    anywhere from 5-15 an hour.

    Are you living in imagination land with your €15 per hour, do you realise there are qualified tradesmen not even on that money.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,447 ✭✭✭✭One eyed Jack


    Dozer Dave wrote: »
    Are you living in imagination land with your €15 per hour, do you realise there are qualified tradesmen not even on that money.


    They're hardly very good at what they do then? I know a few tradesmen wouldn't work to warm themselves, yet here's a 15 year old that wants to work and shows a bit of go in him, why not encourage the chap?

    If people are willing to pay it, then why not?


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 491 ✭✭Dozer Dave


    They're hardly very good at what they do then?

    I am talking about qualified tradesmen working as an employee net pay. Sure City wages would be higher.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41,158 ✭✭✭✭Annasopra


    50 euro sounds about right

    It was so much easier to blame it on Them. It was bleakly depressing to think that They were Us. If it was Them, then nothing was anyone's fault. If it was us, what did that make Me? After all, I'm one of Us. I must be. I've certainly never thought of myself as one of Them. No one ever thinks of themselves as one of Them. We're always one of Us. It's Them that do the bad things.

    Terry Pratchet



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41,158 ✭✭✭✭Annasopra


    foggy_lad wrote: »
    €50 is far too much for a bit of gardening!

    OP Give him €25-€30 and he should be happy. if he puts a face on let him know you will get someone else the next time.

    Talk about stingy. He's just about 6 or 7 hours in a huge garden.

    It was so much easier to blame it on Them. It was bleakly depressing to think that They were Us. If it was Them, then nothing was anyone's fault. If it was us, what did that make Me? After all, I'm one of Us. I must be. I've certainly never thought of myself as one of Them. No one ever thinks of themselves as one of Them. We're always one of Us. It's Them that do the bad things.

    Terry Pratchet



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 169 ✭✭al22


    Call the Irish Water specialist, job may be will done by a professional at Euro 200.00 per hour. But it will be the same job.
    I believe any job done must be paid as much as it really worth, not depending on age, gender, experience, hours involved etc.

    One can clean a garden in 5 hours, another will do it 5 days. Why to pay for a 5 days work if it cost 5 hors to do?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,745 ✭✭✭Macavity.


    He should get a can of Coke, a packet of Tayto and he should be glad to get it too.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,073 ✭✭✭✭cena


    I just have to say the parents have thought this young lad a great thing. money isn't handed to them and you have to work for money.

    50 to 60 would be great


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 596 ✭✭✭The other fella


    foggy_lad wrote: »
    €50 is far too much for a bit of gardening!

    OP Give him €25-€30 and he should be happy. if he puts a face on let him know you will get someone else the next time.

    Digging 30 kg rocks out of the ground and spreading top soil isnt "a bit of gardening".

    Have you ever worked with a shovel in your hands for the day?Its quite different to casual gardening with a hand trowel.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 491 ✭✭Dozer Dave


    Digging 30 kg rocks out of the ground and spreading top soil isnt "a bit of gardening".

    Where has the op said he was digging 30kg rocks out of the ground?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 596 ✭✭✭The other fella


    mel.b wrote: »
    Either per hour or all together. It's not a massic garden bed, not sure how big actually. His sister actually volunteered him - I was out scraping it yesterday and she said if I need some help he wants to earn some pocket money. He's offered to also help me spread the topsoil when I get it and dig holes for the plants when they go in (which is a massive job as the ground is full of rocks - we dug out one yesterday that was just below the surface that easily weighs 30kg :eek:)
    Dozer Dave wrote: »
    Where has the op said he was digging 30kg rocks out of the ground?

    Here.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 835 ✭✭✭dogcat


    However much you would pay a contracted person to do it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,386 ✭✭✭✭rubadub


    Tugboats wrote: »
    :o
    Its a neighbour helping do her garden. Shes not hiring him as an employee. Should she make him clock in and out?

    50 quid and be done with it
    Ehh you might have missed it, but she was keeping track of hours, as I would have done.
    mel.b wrote: »
    About 4.5hrs solid yesterday and is back today doing a couple more

    I simply listed min wages if she was worried about paying too little and to get an idea of what a teenager would be paid doing some regular job. I would pay more as this is more hard work. I would not want the neighbours thinking I was taking advantage and that the son could have made more sitting in a shop.

    if he got 50 for 6.5hrs thats 7.70 per hour which seems grand.
    Over 19 and in 2nd year of first employment €7.79


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