Splatoon

murphyebass

There seems to be a bit of talk about Splatoon on various threads here and there so I thought I'd see if there was any interest in a proper thread for those of us who'll probably end up buying it at launch at the end of May.

Personally I'm keeping my eye on it big time. Just hopin it won't end up being a disappointment.

It has loads of potential and seems like an interesting take on a very stale FPS genre.

Anyway thoughts etc....

Josey Wales

murphyebass wrote: »

There seems to be a bit of talk about Splatoon on various threads here and there so I thought I'd see if there was any interest in a proper thread for those of us who'll probably end up buying it at launch at the end of May.

Personally I'm keeping my eye on it big time. Just hopin it won't end up being a disappointment.

It has loads of potential and seems like an interesting take on a very stale FPS genre.

Anyway thoughts etc....

I read somewhere online that Nintendo confirmed that it will not have voice chat. This wouldn't have been a big issue for me six months ago. But after putting so much time into Destiny because of the social aspect I can't see myself going back to play a shooter with so no chat among friends.

It really seems like such a backwards decision.

murphyebass

Josey Wales wrote: »

I read somewhere online that Nintendo confirmed that it will not have voice chat. This wouldn't have been a big issue for me six months ago. But after putting so much time into Destiny because of the social aspect I can't see myself going back to play a shooter with so no chat among friends.

It really seems like such a backwards decision.

As the worst offender in the boards Destiny world I can't really give out about the lack of voice chat but I definately can see how it's not ideal for most.

Hopefully Ninty will make it work without the chat as in make it simple enough and clear enough on the common goal that people will just do what they're meant to if you know what I mean.

If Splatoon catches my attention and addicts me even half as much as Destiny its on a winner.

bkrangle

It's available cheap(ish) here with delivery to PM

http://www.gameseek.co.uk/pd/videogames0t91cpr51s/nintendowiiu-splatoon

I'm waiting for a few reviews to emerge before ordering, it looks like fun but it's difficult to know if it'll have much of a lifespan

pasta-solo

Voice chat doesn't bother me at all, I never really use it anyway. This looks great, very excited for it! I enjoy online shooters but have become very bored by Battlefield/call of duty, but this looks new and fun!

murphyebass

Projared has a few newish videos on YouTube at the minute if anyone's interested.

He seems pretty happy with them. Better than he expected with the hands on preview which is a good sign.

iamtony

Have it pre ordered look forward to boards multiplayer battles!

murphyebass

iamtony wrote: »

Have it pre ordered look forward to boards multiplayer battles!

There's was few good Mario Kart 8 battles so hopefully people get involved here too.

CiDeRmAn

I can't fecking wait for this one.
And I have a feeling, just a feeling, that we could see Splatoon themed characters and tracks/arenas in Mario Kart 8!
I must start praying to the gods and do a few sacrifices.... XBoxOne owners, natch

ríomhaire

This and Zombi U make me want to pick up a Wii. Might still wait for whenever the new Zelda is delayed till though.

Corholio

Didn't realise the game thread moved here, anyway.

Splatoon will require just 1.8gb of space on the Wii U hard drive if downloading the game. Pretty impressive compared to a lot of games.

NBA 2K13 apparently required 20gb.

CiDeRmAn

bkrangle wrote: »

It's available cheap(ish) here with delivery to PM

http://www.gameseek.co.uk/pd/videogames0t91cpr51s/nintendowiiu-splatoon

I'm waiting for a few reviews to emerge before ordering, it looks like fun but it's difficult to know if it'll have much of a lifespan

Have it ordered from there.
Can't wait tbh
I'm not into gun w@nk multiplayer games, but this looks fantastic, I'm hoping the single player is substantial!
After that I guess I can bring myself to dominate the rest of the world...
Good to have a plan I guess....

CiDeRmAn

Seems the test today of the multiplayer servers is going well.
Reports from the Nintendo forum is that it's a lot of fun to play.
Three sessions today of online only play scheduled, and we've just had the second, a third to come later on, to be tried with the downloadable demo for tge occasion.
Unfortunately I'm on duty today and so can't try it out!

20 to its release and I've mine ordered in, can't wait.
I feel this could be the genesis of a new series of games across Nintendo platforms, no harm expanding the repertoire of the studio.

murphyebass

CiDeRmAn wrote: »

Seems the test today of the multiplayer servers is going well.
Reports from the Nintendo forum is that it's a lot of fun to play.
Three sessions today of online only play scheduled, and we've just had the second, a third to come later on, to be tried with the downloadable demo for tge occasion.
Unfortunately I'm on duty today and so can't try it out!

20 to its release and I've mine ordered in, can't wait.
I feel this could be the genesis of a new series of games across Nintendo platforms, no harm expanding the repertoire of the studio.

Saw that was happening today alright but won't get near it unfortunately.

glad to hear it's going well.

CiDeRmAn

I for one welcome our new Nintendo overlords!

CastorTroy

Yep, I'm now a believer. I'm not an online player usually but that was just fun today. Matches can turn around so quickly at times.

Before the Direct, I was thinking I may pick it up sometime in the future. Direct convinced me that I wanted it sooner, then today has me looking at prices for release date, which just happens to be the day after pay day

Mr E

Nintendo truly have a killer app with Splatoon. This game will shift consoles.

CastorTroy

This was only revealed at last year's E3 wasn't it?

Gunmonkey

I think so

Have my copy booked in Smyths, now the hunt for the Inkling Amiibos begins....

Nollog

I still have it running on my Wii u.

was just jumping around some puddles in the tutorial for a few hours after the last test fire hour.

Well_H0ly_God

This doesn't have voice chat.

Nintendo said they're terrified you might hear something you'd disagree with on the internet.

*shock, horror*.

Nannyism at it's finest.

IGN said it won't last a couple of weeks.

"Lazy and cheap" I believe was the term they used.

Ace Attorney

Well_H0ly_God wrote: »

This doesn't have voice chat.

Nintendo said they're terrified you might hear something you'd disagree with on the internet.

*shock, horror*.

Nannyism at it's finest.

IGN said it won't last a couple of weeks.

"Lazy and cheap" I believe was the term they used.

From playing the demo yesterday, the lack of a voice function didnt hinder my experience at all, really you dont need voice chat for a game like splatoon because its not a 100% shoot em up. Its cover the area in as much paint as you can and if you happen to meet someone from the other team kill them. You dont need voice to co ordinate that. If you notice the gamepad features i.e the map, you can view the arena and how much area is painted and where you need to paint, it also give the coardinates of your team mate so your are not gonna be painting the same area by accident. The Map also has another feature wherby if you click a team mates location after respawning you can quickly catapult to them if they need help deep in enemy lines very handy. There was also two other buttons for communicating help and come to me but i didnt use them yet. The lack of voice didnt effect my enjoyment of splatoon at all and having those features were a nice addition. I'm glad there is no voicechat in it. Ill be buying splatoon on release day because i enjoyed it so much yesterday.

Well_H0ly_God

Thatdoesnt looksafe tome AHHHHHHH wrote: »

From playing the demo yesterday, the lack of a voice function didnt hinder my experience at all, really you dont need voice chat for a game like splatoon because its not a 100% shoot em up. Its cover the area in as much paint as you can and if you happen to meet someone from the other team kill them. You dont need voice to co ordinate that. If you notice the gamepad features i.e the map, you can view the arena and how much area is painted and where you need to paint, it also give the coardinates of your team mate so your are not gonna be painting the same area by accident. The Map also has another feature wherby if you click a team mates location after respawning you can quickly catapult to them if they need help deep in enemy lines very handy. There was also two other buttons for communicating help and come to me but i didnt use them yet. The lack of voice didnt effect my enjoyment of splatoon at all and having those features were a nice addition. I'm glad there is no voicechat in it. Ill be buying splatoon on release day because i enjoyed it so much yesterday.

So you don't believe in giving people, at the very least and regardless of whether or not they use it, the option of voice chat in 2015?

Mr. Amano said as much a few weeks back when pressed on it. His words were that when he played online someone said he wasn't very good. This apparently upset Mr. Amano who then went on to remove it from Splatoon altogether for fear that it might upset his primary demographic which tend to be young.

Ace Attorney

Well_H0ly_God wrote: »

So you don't believe in giving people, at the very least and regardless of whether or not they use it, the option of voice chat in 2015?

Mr. Amano said as much a few weeks back when pressed on it. His words were that when he played online someone said he wasn't very good. This apparently upset Mr. Amano who then went on to remove it from Splatoon altogether for fear that it might upset his primary demographic which tend to be young.

Never said i was againsted it, just glad it doesnt have it, Splatoon isnt a game that needs voice chat, If it was the early 00's to 10 the lack of a voice chat option in a game might have been players only chance to commucicate over a game, but as you say its 2015, it is commonplace to have devices that are connected to the internet all the time, nearly everyone has access to internet and skype. i cant see why those people who complain about the lack of a voice chat funtion cant communicate via skype instead, its 2015, game chat funtions arent the only way to communicate with other gamers anymore. skype and teamspeak and other communication tools are abundant.

ThisRegard

Well_H0ly_God wrote: »

This doesn't have voice chat.

Nintendo said they're terrified you might hear something you'd disagree with on the internet.

*shock, horror*.

Nannyism at it's finest.

IGN said it won't last a couple of weeks.

"Lazy and cheap" I believe was the term they used.

You still at this?

Well_H0ly_God

Thatdoesnt looksafe tome AHHHHHHH wrote: »

Never said i was againsted it, just glad it doesnt have it, Splatoon isnt a game that needs voice chat, If it was the early 00's to 10 the lack of a voice chat option in a game might have been players only chance to commucicate over a game, but as you say its 2015, it is commonplace to have devices that are connected to the internet all the time, nearly everyone has access to internet and skype. i cant see why those people who complain about the lack of a voice chat funtion cant communicate via skype instead, its 2015, game chat funtions arent the only way to communicate with other gamers anymore. skype and teamspeak and other communication tools are abundant.

You cannot be serious. That's like saying, "ah sure Nintendo don't need voicechat - sure it's 2015, you can talk on your phone".

Besides, the problem is Nintendo's policy of nannyism that people are opposed to. Mr. Amano didn't want kids to be upset when someone told them they weren't very good so took voicechat out altogether as a function despite the fact that in 2015 parental controls and universal mute features exist in voicechat.

Nollog

Well_H0ly_God wrote: »

This doesn't have voice chat.

Nintendo said they're terrified you might hear something you'd disagree with on the internet.

*shock, horror*.

Nannyism at it's finest.

IGN said it won't last a couple of weeks.

"Lazy and cheap" I believe was the term they used.

nah, the main producer said it hurts his feelings when people call him names in games, and they've said more recently that it'll never be in the game.

Unlike the other poster who replied to you, the lack of voice chat had a negative impact on my play.

As I was trying the different weapons, we lost several times.
The lack of co-ordination being the key point here.
Also, at one point I did so very very badly, I wanted to apologise to my team mates, I wasn't able to.

Ace Attorney

Well_H0ly_God wrote: »

You cannot be serious. That's like saying, "ah sure Nintendo don't need voicechat - sure it's 2015, you can talk on your phone".

Besides, the problem is Nintendo's policy of nannyism that people are opposed to. Mr. Amano didn't want kids to be upset when someone told them they weren't very good so took voicechat out altogether as a function despite the fact that in 2015 parental controls and universal mute features exist in voicechat.

No, No im saying Splatoon is a game that doesnt need to voice chat, i didnt say nintendo games dont need voice chat, those two sentences are different. Its true they could have added the mute function and parental controls, but they didnt, it doesnt mean they cant communicate via other methods tho.

johnny_ultimate

Isn't it wonderful that there's a company out there who make the practical and artistic decisions they feel are best for their games, rather than worrying about conforming or the reaction of the ever hyperbolic Internet mob, many of whom are destined to never play the game anyway

CiDeRmAn

The cheap and lazy comment comes as a criticism of the omission of voice chat only
http://m.ie.ign.com/articles/2015/05/10/dear-nintendo-splatoon-needs-a-voice-chat-option
Something they clarify in the opening of the article.

The game itself has been playtested by IGN and has received a glowing report
http://m.ie.ign.com/articles/2015/03/23/splatoon-making-messy-mischief-in-nintendos-new-shooter

So, have you actually played the game?

Well_H0ly_God

I'll voice my opinion if I dislike something just as anyone else on this forum is entitled to do so without verbally abusing others.

I, for example, enjoy games which people on this forum and others have run into the ground. I've accepted those drawbacks and shortcomings, even agreed with many of them, however it doesn't negate my enjoyment from playing them and why would it?

It seems to me that there are certain people that are as sensitive as Mr. Amano in relation to certain games or certain corporations and are quite willing to rush to censor or attack opinions that differ from their own. I just can't understand it for the life of me.

CiDeRmAn

I don't think anyone is pioneering the idea of constructive criticism of a game or a developer or a publisher for that matter.
Problem is to see someone try so hard to generate controversy with their posts, repeatedly.

Its great that everyone has an opinion and gets equal opportunity to voice it here.
But its not so great when people persistently seem to bang the same drum again and again seemingly to try to, I don't know, change everyone's mind?

We get it, you find the lack if voice support in Splatoon a fault.
But you decide that it then means that Nintendo as a whole are crap and backward, well you won't find too many people to agree with you.

tok9

Just watching GT's full Playthrough Fridays and they stopped it for an hour to play Splatoon.

Looks like a load of fun. Would definitely be all over it if I had a WiiU. Love that their is a mini game between matches and I just like the finish screen.

What exactly aren't they launching with the game though. I did find it curious as it sounded pretty substantial and I don't get why they didn't just delay it since this is currently the only big game for WiiU this year?

Generic Dreadhead

£29 on Amazon.... Nintendo are killing the competition with these launch prices.
Missed the play yesterday, thought it was 9-10 for some reason, whoops.
Gonna pick it up based on the feedback here and of course the great price.
Probably will have the missus play it more than me as she's getting used to shooters and it'll be suitable for us to have her 'off-mic' in this

CastorTroy

Music stuck in my head

Mr E

Another global testfire event on Saturday May 24th.

http://nintendoeverything.com/splatoon-global-testfire-returning-on-may-24/

Just one hour this time - 11pm on Saturday night.

CiDeRmAn

Mr E wrote: »

Another global testfire event on Saturday May 24th.

http://nintendoeverything.com/splatoon-global-testfire-returning-on-may-24/

Just one hour this time - 11pm on Saturday night.

Oh wait
I'm off then, thought I was working!
Hooray!

Gunmonkey

Well someone at Nintendo f***ed up, I can actually make this one

Knew downloading the Testfire even though I missed the other day would pay off.

murphyebass

So this is dropping on Friday if I'm not mistaken.

Everyone ready for splatooning?

I'm kinda torn as the 2nd dlc for Destiny dropped last week and I haven't even got to play that yet.

Definitely picking Splatoon up though as it looks like great craic

Generic Dreadhead

murphyebass wrote: »

So this is dropping on Friday if I'm not mistaken.

Everyone ready for splatooning?

I'm kinda torn as the 2nd dlc for Destiny dropped last week and I haven't even got to play that yet.

Definitely picking Splatoon up though as it looks like great craic

I have it pre-ordered on Amazon, albeit with Super Saver delivery so should be Splatooning sometime in July i'd say :P

murphyebass

Cormac... wrote: »

I have it pre-ordered on Amazon, albeit with Super Saver delivery so should be Splatooning sometime in July i'd say :P

We'll have to put boardsie group together like we did with Mario Kart 8.

I wonder how many Destiny players will give Splatoon a chance.

Generic Dreadhead

murphyebass wrote: »

We'll have to put boardsie group together like we did with Mario Kart 8.

I wonder how many Destiny players will give Splatoon a chance.

Sure they'll all be on here moaning about Lag Switches and Spawn Locking if we did :pac:

I'm more getting Splatoon as a means to transition my OH into FPS's :P
She's quiet aware of this tactic of mine and I make no bones about hiding it.

This looks like just the right amount of fun for casual players, kind of like how PVZ Garden Warfare has been explained to me

murphyebass

Cormac... wrote: »

Sure they'll all be on here moaning about Lag Switches and Spawn Locking if we did :pac:

I'm more getting Splatoon as a means to transition my OH into FPS's :P
She's quiet aware of this tactic of mine and I make no bones about hiding it.

This looks like just the right amount of fun for casual players, kind of like how PVZ Garden Warfare has been explained to me

Yeah I got the wife to play Mario Kart and Mario on the Wii U so far so I think you're onto something!

Not sure what she'll make of Splatoon as there's no recognisable characters but the colour might entice her in.

Hopefully Splatoon is lag free. Destiny can be painful at times in fairness because of it. Had to quit a raid about 2 weeks ago cause it was just awful.

CastorTroy

So reviews due to go up today. Unfortunately I think the main thing against it will be the content coming later, which will result in 8's or 7.5's.

I'm getting it anyway

Nollog

CastorTroy wrote: »

So reviews due to go up today. Unfortunately I think the main thing against it will be the content coming later, which will result in 8's or 7.5's.

I'm getting it anyway

People should've tried the testfire if they wanted to know to buy it or not.

Maybe they'll do more in the future?

Star Lord

I never got to take part in the testfires, but itching to get my hands on this, looks like ridiculous fun!

FutureGuy

This could be the next big Nintendo franchise. And that is huge in itself.

James74

Really positive review up from Kill Screen

Refreshingly, there's no actual score on the review itself but Metacritic have converted it into an 82 (does the Metacritic do that or the reviewers do a score to get on Metacritic?).
I also noted that Kill Screen reviews are on average 7 points lower than other reviewers on Metacritic. So potentially we could be seeing scores in the 8 or 9 out of 10 region.


Pure speculation of course and based on no evidence whatsoever


Edit: Ignore my ignorance and partial blindness, didn't see that score in the midst of Splatoon's technicolour madness.
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Generic Dreadhead

God that review is wordy :rolleyes:

We might be able to see it as a pastiche of gameplay conventions (in the same way that everything written after, say, The Epic of Gilgamesh is also a pastiche of past forms), but I think that’s too reductive

:rolleyes:

Absolutely no real focus on the content or gameplay.

Would it have killed his superior brain to let us all know if the combat flowed well or if the map design was well thought out

johnny_ultimate

Reviews aren't box ticking exercises, they're personal responses to a game. Kill Screen as a publication understands that better than any other site I've come across (hence it has become my favourite gaming criticism site), and their reviewers are trusted enough to take the angle they feel is appropriate and the result are reviews and features that are more articulate, analytical and insightful than your average site. They treat games like worthwhile culture that justify more intellectually engaged discussion, not just products or systems to be broken down and assigned paragraphs for every general area of the game.

Plenty of more standard form reviews will be along shortly to complement / contrast with the one above. Yes, Kill Screen's reviews are 'wordy', but that's wonderful, and may they never change. Publications of their ilk are in short supply. And hey, we all find the writers or sites that offer the sorts of criticism we appreciate as individuals - diversity of form is only a good thing.

Mr E

They've pulled that review. Review embargo is up at 3pm, so I expect they got a nice friendly email from Nintendo's legal team.

Edit: Changed link. Looks like a temp link. http://killscreendaily.com/articles/indescribable-weirdness-xxx/