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WrestleMania aftermath thread.

  • 30-03-2015 7:08am
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  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 25,390 Mod ✭✭✭✭Loughc


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    Well the best way I can describe that WrestleMania is.... it was a big bag of.... FUN.

    I gave it an 8. More-so the kid in me did. Prior to last week, I have no feelings towards WM as I just didn't believe in Reigns or the Main Event, I felt it was all too obvious and boring.

    Then Lesnar announced he had re-signed... and all of a sudden WM had my attention, I needed to see how they would book themselves out of the corner without damaging either man and well they pulled it off brilliantly.

    The Good

    > Kidd/Cesaro, Bryan & Rollins all walking away from a WWE PPV with a title is only ever a good thing, them walking out of WM with titles even better.

    > The 4 way tag team match, was a good opener for the preshow, with some nice spots and the best team won.

    > Ambrose's sick bump, he's crazy we get it, I would LOVE it if they mentioned the fact he was taken out/concussed/in hospital as to why he didn't stop Mr. Rollins later on that night, but that's not going to happen.

    > DAT RKO

    > DX Vs. NWO

    > Bray's Entrance, in lieu of Darkness they made it work.

    > Lesnar just being Lesnar, he is a beast. I would actually pay $19.98 a month if it meant he appeared on every Raw and PPV. Could watch him beat and suplex opponents all night.

    > Making Reigns look bad-ass and actually suck the crowd into the end of that Main Event, when Lesnar kicked out of those punches and spear, I really thought Reigns had it.

    > DAT Cash In.

    > Also if we're treating WM like the WWE's season Finale then based off the previous "season" Rollins deserved it, he's been the MVP of the WWE for the past 12 months, like Bryan was the previous year.

    The Bad

    > Big Show winning the ATGMBR, If he's retiring from in-ring competition, then grand perfect good send off, if he's hanging around then WHY GOD WHY.

    > #Givedivasachance more like #givemeabreak, Divas weren't given much to work with and really didn't did the opportunity either. Somebody get the nXt ladies to give them some tips.

    > Sting/HHH, aside from the nWo/DX interference, I hated the whole wCw/WWE angle to it, that battle is long gone and it goes to show no matter how many years it's been since Vince won't give wCw any kind of victory even though wCw has been dead since 2001. You just think, why did Sting bother to come back from that.

    > I know a few people will disagree with me on this but if they wanted to make Taker looked strong they should have had him completely maul Wyatt, shorter match, more offence from Taker. Make him look like a beast and have the commentators say you should have left the deadman dead. Wyatt's stock is worth nothing since Cena steamrolled through him.

    The Ugly

    > That HHH entrance, they used to mock wCw for Robocop and cheap tie-ins. Ah hello.... Looked cheap as chips.

    > The IWC, I hate this word as I am well aware I am apart of the IWC. But my god there is NO pleasing people, people on here and FB complained about the sun being too bright, like WWE had a say in what time it set, the PPV is designed to suit both coasts in the states and maximise the size of the audience. People forget that the city bids for WM years in advance and if the bid is good enough you don't turn it down as Taker's entrance would look shíte.

    Sheamus, Sheamus, Sheamus, if I heard his name one more time last night I would have cried. A rumour gets out and all of a sudden he's getting involved in every match on the card. Also Bray's ankle went from being sore to broken in three places to they've scrapped the match completely.

    The Main Event, I'm so annoyed by alot of people's reaction to the Main Event, loads of people were saying Rollins was so obvious yet prior to the event they were saying Reigns is being shoved down our throats, crowd will boo when he wins, etc etc.... no matter what WWE did last night the reaction by the "IWC" was going to be the same.

    Lesnar wins -Ah sure that was obvious the minute he announced he was staying
    Reigns wins -Ah shure that was obvious from the build he was given (That would have been my pick ;) )
    Rollins wins - Ah sure it was obvious he was going to cash-in.

    If it was so obvious why didn't more people call it before the event? Even how he cashed in was different that before. But yet people spat on it, now not everyone but alot of people online complained about the event, but for the people who complained about almost everything why watch it? I admit I wasn't crazy about Reigns but man that Main Event was Fun.


    I apologise for the long post and the rant at the end but I'm indulging the kid in me who's first WM was WMX and first live WM was WM12 (and you think last night show had issues!!) and back then for WM12 as a kid I loved every match, I loved the WM feel, the getting to stay up late, getting drawn in, last night felt like that too, it had a big time feel about it and hopefully they can build from it tonight, because after last night, it's wide open where do we go from here....


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,417 ✭✭✭WinnyThePoo


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    A hell of a lot of fun. Fell asleep before the final match. Gutted I missed Rollins taking the title. Would have never expected that.
    Apart from the over long and drawn out ronda rousey/rock v Steph/ triple h segment it flew by as a paperview.


  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 25,390 Mod ✭✭✭✭Loughc


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    Also on a side-note I just want to comment on how incredibly civil it was in the Live thread last night.

    It moved so quick but it was great fun and everyone posted in a respectful manner you should have seen some of the shíte on other sites and FB.

    Makes me proud to be a boards user and well done to the PW Mods who have kept this place in great shape all year round, wrestling can be a touchy and divisive subject at times but the atmosphere here in general is more jovial than anything else.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,882 ✭✭✭✭Rock Lesnar


    Didnt see it live but watched the main matches online very early this morning, pretty much went the way i expected apart from sting and hhh, and as much as i love the DX v NWO angle, the fact Hall and Nash are HHH's mates, it made no sense to come out and side with sting, i also wish HBK would stop teasing us by coming back and superkicking somebody without it leading anywhere.

    It was great to see Ronda Rousey there, but she didnt need The Rock there, but i guess him been there sets up his mania match next year.

    Loved Rollins winning the title, the way hes been booked the last couple of weeks, i just felt he was cashing in last night..... plus Lesnar losing sets up a chance to Challenge Austin tonight on Raw ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,426 ✭✭✭Roar


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    Mostly enjoyed that I have to say. Haven't been watching WWE much bar NXT, but dug the show last night. Got a kick out of the NWO/DX bit - total nostalgia and just a bit of fun. That entrance from HHH though :rolleyes:

    Nice finish to the main event, which should make things interesting over the next while.

    8/10 for me anyway


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 307 ✭✭cagefactor


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    Loughc wrote: »
    > Making Reigns look bad-ass and actually suck the crowd into the end of that Main Event, when Lesnar kicked out of those punches and spear, I really thought Reigns had it.

    Sorry but Reigns never once looked bad ass during the match. Looked completely out of his depth.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,420 ✭✭✭✭rob316


    I don't watch wrestling at all anymore bar the Rumble and Mania every year without fail.

    Rollins cashing in was brilliant totally unexpected. Reigns as champion would have been awful, he literally has nothing going for him.

    John Cena needs a new gimmick everyone is just so sick of him.

    The Sting and HHH match while it was fun, it was poor enough. Sting moves very well for a 55 year old I must say, credit to him for keeping in such good shape. That WCW vs WWE angle was really lame.

    Hopefully Sting gets another match/angle to work with more substance.

    NWO and DX thing probably got the biggest pop of the night which says it all that WWE still have to roll out the old men to get the crowd excited. The current crop of talent is so poor in comparison.

    WWE are lucky to have Lesnar for another 3 years as there is literally no else who can draw like he can. He is just pure box office, absolute beast of a performer.

    I know they don't have the talent but they really need to look at the benchmark they set at WM17 and try to come near it next year. Austin vs Lesnar is where they need to go IMO its the only match that hasn't been done, and to get Austin for one last match would be box office in itself. If not Brock and Rock at Mania would be good too.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,553 ✭✭✭Blue_Dabadee


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    8/10 from me.

    It was hard for me to find any faults for this show bar Mizdow should of won Battle Royal instead of Big Show and Sting should went over Haitch.

    No every match on the show was a 5 star classic, but the show was packed with plenty of WM moments which kept my interest for entire 4 hours.


  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 25,390 Mod ✭✭✭✭Loughc


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    cagefactor wrote: »
    Sorry but Reigns never once looked bad ass during the match. Looked completely out of his depth.

    I thought the closing segment when it looked like he was closing in on a win and how he took some of Lesnar's stiff shots made him look pretty bad-ass moreso than his character has since he came back from injury.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,420 ✭✭✭✭rob316


    Loughc wrote: »
    I thought the closing segment when it looked like he was closing in on a win and how he took some of Lesnar's stiff shots made him look pretty bad-ass moreso than his character has since he came back from injury.

    He still never looked like he was going to win, he has zero charisma, he is flat and boring, him as WWE champion would be a damning indictment of the company.

    How the creative team have elevated him to this high in the card is beyond me, he has zero potential. Rollins is on another league in comparison.
    Reigns doesn't even have an exciting finisher, Kerb stomp is poor but the Superman punch is far worse.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,448 ✭✭✭Garseys


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    Gave it an 8/10.

    So many good Wrestlemania moments, I completely marked out at Ronda's involvement (as I'm sure Dave Meltzer did aswell), The title switch was perfectly booked. Reigns looked Strong, Brock looked strong AND you got the belt off Lesnar without him being pinned.

    Did not feel like I watched 5 hours of WWE. Good job WWE.

    Also, I loved the look of this show, the daytime show just felt really unique.

    Roll on Post Mania Raw tonight!


  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 25,390 Mod ✭✭✭✭Loughc


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    rob316 wrote: »
    He still never looked like he was going to win, he has zero charisma, he is flat and boring, him as WWE champion would be a damning indictment of the company.

    How the creative team have elevated him to this high in the card is beyond me, he has zero potential. Rollins is on another league in comparison.
    Reigns doesn't even have an exciting finisher, Kerb stomp is poor but the Superman punch is far worse.

    I agree with all this in bold, but tell me after Lesnar busted his head opened, took three superman punches and was it two spears he didn't have a chance? I was certain Vince was going to book him to go over clean, not because he's the best or most deservant or talented, because Vince is crazy.

    I 100% agree Rollins was the better choice by a country mile.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,839 ✭✭✭Caovyn Lineah


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    I tapped out after the Sting - HHH match last night and went to sleep, up early this morning to watch the rest before it was spoiled on me. What an absolutely fantastic show from start to finish, I'll post my thoughts later on.

    Just as an aside, I agree with the poster above who commented on the live thread, it was my first time being here for a ppv and it was very enjoyable having a decent conversation going about it


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,689 ✭✭✭sky88


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    8/10 for me some really good matches and some great moments.

    DX vs Nwo was just brilliant for me its the kind of moments wrestlemania is for like austin,rock and hogan last year.

    Reigns vs brock was great with rollins cashing in made it so special. Thought it made all 3 look great and was finally impressed by reigns and if they can get his character right he can be a star.

    Stuff i didnt like was hhh over sting it just seemed anticlimactic when it happened nevermind the fact sting should have won.

    Big show winning just lost a great moment for sandow.

    But the biggest thing i didnt like was the daylight on the whole event just felt it took away from the feel of it much prefer it in darkness,


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 307 ✭✭cagefactor


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    rob316 wrote: »
    He still never looked like he was going to win, he has zero charisma, he is flat and boring, him as WWE champion would be a damning indictment of the company.

    Agree 100%, never looked like was going to win, not with the crowd so against him. An audible would have had to be called if he was planned to win. The forced comeback fell flat without the crowd behind him

    It's damning on Reigns if he is thrown into a new feud now while Orton & Rollins fight over the title for a while. Unless of course Brock wins the title on Raw tonight - wouldnt suprise me.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,553 ✭✭✭Blue_Dabadee


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    To quote someone from Twitter:

    "This Wrestlemania wasn't so much about great matches, but so many great moments! Felt like a kid today watching it"


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 41 Titus Andronicus


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    I gave it an 8, best PPV in a long while.
    Only the Rock segment dragged, everything else was pure entertainment.
    Orton celebrating the RKO was class, that was my highlight of the night.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,420 ✭✭✭✭rob316


    Loughc wrote: »
    I agree with all this in bold, but tell me after Lesnar busted his head opened, took three superman punches and was it two spears he didn't have a chance? I was certain Vince was going to book him to go over clean, not because he's the best or most deservant or talented, because Vince is crazy.

    I 100% agree Rollins was the better choice by a country mile.

    Doesn't matter, Rollins was in the match for 2 minutes and was a more credible winner. Reigns beating Lesnar? Give me a break.

    While my jaw was on the floor after Lesnar beat Taker last year, and as unbelievable as it was, Lesnar was still a credible winner and one the fans could believe.

    Reigns just doesn't carry the confidence and swagger to believe he could beat Lesnar. Have you watched one of his promo's? Dull as dishwater.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,011 ✭✭✭Tugboats


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    I wasnt blown away. My issues with the event:

    HHH v Sting: I said last night the end made no sense. People shake hands after a classic match. Sting accepting HHH handshake after he got DX to run in was stupid. It wasnt a Wrestlemania moment.

    The Rock segment: Nobody ever again has the right to moan about Wrestlers not being given a chance or being stuck on a pre show when they drool over rubbish like this.

    Lesnar/Reigns: I went into this match with zero interest and they both changed that. It was physical, bloody and compelling to watch. One of the most unique WM main events but they bottled the finish and we didnt get the end of the story. With no cash in, and a little bit more ring time both men could have left that match with a standing ovation.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,543 ✭✭✭Mick Murdock


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    8/10

    Gonna be a long day at work but happy I watched live.

    One of my favourite Mania's in a long time. Have never been a huge fan of Sting but he was great in the build up and it was probably the most excited I've been about wrestling in a while. They could do with him for the occasional ppv so beating him in his first match seems typically short sighted.

    The Rusev streak could have continued until next years Mania. Hope he stays with Lana and they can build him up again.

    Taker surely retires next year.

    Went into the main event hoping Brock remained champ but great finish and a deserving champion. Reigns is brutal. Lesnar is going to be one of the greatest ever before he's finished.

    Will be a hard act to follow tonight but looking forward to the next few weeks and hopefully they start building on the momentum.


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  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 18,520 Mod ✭✭✭✭DM_7


    Nice to see some positivity around here.

    Agree that it was an event of moments rather than great wrestling. But that's what I want from Wrestlemania.

    It's a show worth watching again.

    Delighted that Rollins left as champion. They played the main event so well. Reigns got a good battering, they played up a lol reigns wins scenario, made it look like Rollins might fail to cash in and actually be the one to be pinned but ended up with the ideal ending.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 15,116 ✭✭✭✭RasTa


    I haven't watched WWF in about 15 or so years. Turned on last night before bed and caught the Randy TKO dude match which was pretty impressive from a wresting pov.

    I've never even heard of the Sting but the entrance kept my interest up, reminded me of Spinal tap or something. It was great. Fight was even better when all the old heads starting turning up

    Same for that little segment when all the old heads starting turning up and chanting yes at the end. Good to see the belt looking the same

    Hit the hay after the Divas were about to come on but that was seriously enjoyable hour or so


  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 25,390 Mod ✭✭✭✭Loughc


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    DM_7 wrote: »
    Delighted that Rollins left as champion. They played the main event so well. Reigns got a good battering, they played up a lol reigns wins scenario, made it look like Rollins might fail to cash in and actually be the one to be pinned but ended up with the ideal ending.

    Yea they played me good, I thought the only reason Rollins was out there was to get pinned by Reigns so they could keep Lesnar strong... I am very happy to be proven wrong! :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 46,837 ✭✭✭✭Mitch Connor


    That HHH entrance was HORRIBLE. So very bad.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,420 ✭✭✭✭rob316


    That HHH entrance was HORRIBLE. So very bad.

    Ya, it was like they went mad with the tin foil, so cheap and tacky and made no sense.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,518 ✭✭✭✭briany


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    HHH's entrance would have looked 10 times better under the cover of darkness, with some cool lighting. I'm not saying it would have been the greatest thing, but it would have looked way less tacky.

    Daylight was unforgiving on just about every entrance that required an atmosphere. The notable exception being Rusev, because it's just hard to come out in a tank and have it look bad.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,101 ✭✭✭MitchKoobski


    10
    Can't understand how anyone would give this less than an 8, let alone a 4 or a 5.

    Explain yourself voter 4!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 15,116 ✭✭✭✭RasTa


    That HHH entrance was HORRIBLE. So very bad.

    That's why it was so good.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,518 ✭✭✭✭briany


    9
    Who exactly did Big Show's win in the ATGMBR help? Did Big Show lobby for that? Why do they throw away perfectly good Wrestlemania moments like Mizdow finally coming good? They didn't even really make Mizdow look strong in the end. Big Show just picked him up and threw him out, making Mizdow look a bit of a chump. (armchair booker) The obvious ending would have been Miz coming back to interfere and cost Mizdow the win. Big Show gets his win and Miz and Mizdow can take their feud over the next 3 to 6 months.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 307 ✭✭cagefactor


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    Triple H entrance was unreal !


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,376 ✭✭✭✭rossie1977


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    hugely enjoyable show. the mainevent was brilliantly booked (whoever scripted that deserves a raise). the rock thing went on a little too long.. time that cena/taker matches could have done with but honestly thats really been picky on my part

    43 year old big show winning the battle royal and not mizdow or itami was a mistake


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,839 ✭✭✭Caovyn Lineah


    9
    Ill happily admit to being a fan in passing between 2006 and 2012 as opposed to the fanatic i was in the 10 years prior to that and when i say fanatic i mean borderline crazy. I watched every promotion i could get my eyes on, i still have boxes and boxes of old PPVs on VHS aswell as load of Japanese stuff including the deathmatches etc but since 2012 i have really started getting back into things again and i do consider myself a fairly knowledgeable fan, dare i say even a smark. I think that is why i loved the Sting - HHH match, the wrestling itself wasnt great but who expected anything else? The whole match was made by the outside interference, fans of my age never thought we would see DX up against NWO and it was incredible, i was marking out like a 12 year old and i have no shame in saying it. A part of me cringed when i saw Scott Hall taking that bump but it just goes to show how much he has turned his life around since that video emerged of him nearly dead in the ring at an independent show. The handshake at the end was fine by me and its not the last we see of Sting, i am sure of that.

    The Fatal 4 Way was an enjoyable start to the show, a spotfest but an enjoyable one. Was there a legit injury to one of the Usos that caused him to leave so early? The tag division is in a very bad state now and i dont see how they can turn it around.

    Battle Royal: Meh, im fed up of seeing Big Show. His WCW days were great and when he burst through the mat in that cage match i was excited for what they could do with him, turns out that they have done nothing with him in 14?? years. Flipping and flopping between heel and face like a dead fish and people just dont care. Im sure Vince looks at him, hears the fans boo and thinks "Job done, heel getting booed". But the problem is, he is getting X Pac heat, people just dont like him. I knew Hideo wasnt going to win but i didnt want Show to be the one to throw him out. Great to see Bo Dallas back too, i hope he gets a decent run on TV now.

    Ladder Match: I think i was the only one that didnt find this too enjoyable. I know we have to suspend a lot of our beliefs in wrestling and ladder matches in particular but one thing annoyed me more than anything else last night and that was Dolph, he struggled to get up the ladder to take the belt yet 3/4 minutes later he flew up the ladder faster than anyone i have ever seen to prevent D-Bry taking down the belt, i hate things like that. The headbutts were also ridiculous looking. Overall though, im delighted now that the IC title is going to be taken seriously. The scene backstage with all the old champs was cringe-tastic and not in a good way.

    Randy - Rollins: A great match between 2 great workers, i know a lot of people dont like Orton because his character can be seen as boring but i am a fan. The RKO spot was amazing, interesting to see where he goes now that Rollins is the champ.

    Divas: Give the divas a chance my arse, they got less than 7 minutes. The sooner Charlotte debuts the better to shake up the division.

    Cena - Rusev: I dont know what to make of this match, it was good but not great with a very very poor finish, it was an awful way for Rusev to lose his streak and with the way he was shouting at Lana afterwards im just not sure what road they are going to go down with the 2 of them. Cena is definitely going to raise the profile of the US title, so like Bryan with the IC title, its a good thing. You have to laugh at Cena getting booed in a USA-Russia feud, there is no hope for him as a full on face anymore but i understand why they cant turn him heel($$$$$ and the Make a Wish stuff)

    Taker - Bray: A great match considering Takers age and rustiness coupled with Brays injury. An expected result but one i feel they got wrong. I posted the other day that i feel Bray genuinely could be a main eventer for years to come and a win last night would have helped him achieve that a bit quicker. Now he could end up in a bit of a lull as we all know Taker isnt going to be around to continue the feud so who does he get paired up with?

    Brock - Reigns: A few weeks ago i just didnt care about this match because Roman was 100% winning and then Brock signed his contract which certainly got my interest in the outcome. I dont quite get the hate for Roman, its not his fault that Vince chose him as his pet project, we all know he isnt ready for WM main events and i think he could do with a mouthpiece manager to take some of the heat off him but he was fantastic last night. That is the kind of matches he should be involved in, we know he isnt going to knock out an hour long iron man, wrestling classic. He is a ridiculously marketable dude and matches like last night will only help him. Brock is box office gold and i would have loved him to break Punks record of 434 days but it wasnt to be. The main question i have about him now is what kind of schedule has he agreed to? Will he be on Raw tonight or is he going to take a few weeks/months off? I was genuinely shocked when Seths music hit, i was so engrossed in the match and had convinced myself that Roman was winning that i had completely forgotten about the MITB contract. Even then, i thought Brock was getting the pin on Seth. It really was a great match topped off with a really really good ending.

    Other than the matches, i only have 2 other things to comment on. First off, the commentary, it was atrocious for the entire show. The 3 of them should be ashamed of themselves, there wasnt a bit of emotion from any of them during any of the matches, bring back JR.

    The Rock/Ronda/Steph/HHH segment was a great big meh. I know they were trying to waste time hoping it would somehow get dark but it was just painful to watch and it had no place at Mania. Rock at the end seemed to be hinting at a mixed tag match which wouldnt surprise me at Mania next year.

    Overall, a solid 8/10 PPV and i cant wait for Raw live from Bizarro Land tonight.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,398 ✭✭✭✭Turtyturd


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    Just noticed Rock had a terminator Brahma bull on screen during his entrance.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 11,348 ✭✭✭✭ricero


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    fantastic mania i must say and being honest i enjoyed it more than last years event.

    just so many memorable moments this year and the main event was edge of your seat stuff. Fair play to Reigns he was fantastic in it and i hope the wwe can build him properly now.

    the ladder match was decent as was orton v rollins. i loved the sting v hhh match just for the nostalgia alone. Cena v Rusev was again ok but i thought the way they had Cena beat Rusev was rather weak. Delighted to see taker in good shape this year and Wyatt can be proud of his performance a great match for what it was.

    Also i predicted the taker/wyatt spider and sit up spot last week :D.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,846 ✭✭✭Moneymaker


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    Ah WWE, months of months of crap and you deliver when it really matters.

    It's the question I always ask, why can't they always have a product like this?

    Anyway;

    Tag Match: Bit of a mess, but it was fun to watch all the same. Right guys won, and Dominatrix Nattie. Grand opener.

    ARMBAR: Sigh. Why Big Show? Why? It was like a re-run of the Rumble where someone I have nothing but X-Pac heat for eliminates a bunch a people I care about.

    Mizdow got his moment and the big pop...why not go all the way and have him win too? Very strange. Once the deadwood was cleared out I enjoyed the match though.

    Ladder match: Not the best ladder match ever, but enjoyable none the less. Ambrose is absolutely insane. I'd be amazed if he's not concussed. Pretty mental spot. DB winning made me happy and was 100% the right move. Crowd loved him and always will love him.

    Orton v Rollins: Excellent match, both guys were on their A game. Fast paced and lots of fluid, fun spots. That RKO was simply godly. Definitely a top 5, maybe top 3 RKO. This was very good.

    Sting vs HHH: HHH's entrances are always over the top and tacky. I loved it as I always do. Stinger can still go. Logically DX and NWO run ins made no sense but I didn't give a fck. Fun match. HHH winning? Whatever. It's 14 years later, do you really need to tell that WWE is superior to WCW narrative AGAIN? Interested to see what happens with Sting next.

    Nash fake tearing his quad was hilarious. That was 100% intentional.

    AJ/Paige vs Bellas: Was disappointed with this. I was hoping they'd get more time and more of a chance. Was no better then anything you see on RAW/SD. Get the NXT girls in there pronto.

    Cena vs Rusev: Rusev's entrance was brilliant. The match was fine. I was a little disappointed by it. The effort was definitely there but something was lacking for me.

    Rock/HHH/Ronda segment was good but dragged on WAYYYYYYY too long. Ronda is like printing money. Unreal woman. Steph was on fire.

    Taker vs Wyatt: Taker looked good. Better then last year. Bray clearly had issues with his ankle. The match was fine all things considered. Fairly typical Undertaker WM match. The sit up spot was fantastic.

    Reigns vs Lesnar: Wow. This was awesome. Reigns looked the best i'd ever seen him tonight. He and Brock stiffed the **** out of each other(intentionally) and a defeat like this did more for him then 10 title wins could have. Brock looked fantastic, Reigns looked tough and resilient and Rollins got exactly what his work in the past 18 months has deserved.

    The best wrestler in the company should hold the WWE title. That is Seth Rollins. As it was DB last year.

    The show was FAR better then I expected. WWE booked themselves into seemingly an impossible corner. Well they booked themselves right out if it. I'm intrigued by a lot of things going forward now.

    8/10 show for me when I was expecting a 4-5 at best. Good job WWE.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,073 ✭✭✭✭cena


    How did rollins win the belt he didn't pin brock?


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,839 ✭✭✭Caovyn Lineah


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    cena wrote: »
    How did rollins win the belt he didn't pin brock?

    It was turned into a Triple Threat for some reason, dont question it :D


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,011 ✭✭✭Tugboats


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    cena wrote: »
    How did rollins win the belt he didn't pin brock?

    It became a triple threat match. I was wondering about that but im sure some here can clear it up as Im not an expert on MITB


  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 25,390 Mod ✭✭✭✭Loughc


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    Tugboats wrote: »
    It became a triple threat match. I was wondering about that but im sure some here can clear it up as Im not an expert on MITB

    As he cashed in DURING the match and not after it, the ref called for the original match to be changed to a triple threat match.

    They should start Raw tonight with Heyman threatening to sue WWE as Lesnar had signed a contract for an one on one title match and not a triple threat :pac:


  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 25,390 Mod ✭✭✭✭Loughc


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    Also Moneymaker, you were bang on the money with everything you said on your review... well except for the HHH entrance ;)


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,349 ✭✭✭✭super_furry


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    I loved it. I'm someone who dips in and out of Wrestling and haven't really watched in consistently since the Attitude era but I thought it was a genuinely great show and it's honestly something that I think will make me sign up for a Network account of my own.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,839 ✭✭✭Caovyn Lineah


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    I loved it. I'm someone who dips in and out of Wrestling and haven't really watched in consistently since the Attitude era but I thought it was a genuinely great show and it's honestly something that I think will make me sign up for a Network account of my own.

    I was considering not renewing my subscription when it lapses this week but last night made me reconsider, make sure you catch Raw tonight because its going to be amazing, the night after Mania always is.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,023 ✭✭✭seandotcomm


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    Whatever about the lack of darkness ruining Undertaker's entrance but that HHH Terminator fiasco would have benefitted way more with some cool lighting to make it not look like he got his robot toy outfit down in Smyths


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,491 ✭✭✭thebostoncrab


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    That was such a great Wrestlemania, easily in the top 10.

    The four way was fun, and quite a few times they sucked me in thinking the match would end with someone else leaving with the belts, which if you have me constantly second guessing then you're doing your job well in my eyes. The right team won and it was a great way to open the show.

    **** of Big Show. Honestly, why is it always Big show eliminating the "internet darlings" in these matches? It just feels like Vince uses Show to troll the internet fans. Mizdow should have won, and the whole build up in the final few minutes was the perfect way to set up a Mizdow win. Bull****.

    The ladder match was chaotic and full of spot after spot after spot, everything I need from a 'Mania ladder match basically! Great way to open the main show, with the promo video and after match footage with the HOFers who also won the belt was a really nice touch and made the belt feel important again. Let's hope they don't forget that. And the right guy won.

    Orton and Rollins had the match of the night until the main event for me. This was a pleasure to watch, and some of the spots and sequences I have never seen done so well in a match before. And that's without mentioning that beautiful RKO. Both guys came out looking like a million bucks.

    Sting vs HHH was alight. I actually was really enjoying the match until all the interference. Yeah I do get why it was done (Even if having Nash and Hall go against HHH makes no sense since, you know, their BFF status has been acknowledged on tv) but you could have had it after the match. The match didn't need to be so overbooked. Sting should have won in my eyes but I can live with HHH winning.

    The womens match was grand, The Bellas aren't ring generals but you can't deny they are getting better and better with each match. AJ didn't really seem to give to much of a **** though which was a shame. You could tell Paige was having a blast.

    Rusev wins entrance of the night. After the year he has had, and Lana, it was brilliant to see both getting such a massive treatment (On a side note, it was hilarious watching Lana trying to fight smiling at the "Let's go Lana" chants :P). Then you compare it to Cena who didn't even make the effort to get new gear for the show (A big pet peeve of mine with anyone on the roster; it's 'Mania, make the ****ing effort and get new trunks.). The match was enjoyable, but they really booked themselves into a corner. Rusev should have come out of this red hot and a win over Cena would have been perfect, but now where does he go? He lost in such a way that he looks deflated and it feels like he will fall down the card big time in the next few weeks. I hope I'm wrong, I really want Rusev to come out on Raw tonight and just kill someone, to really go on a rampage.

    I marked out like hell for Ronda. The segment went on a little longer than it should have, but seeing her toss HHH like that had me grinning like an eejit.

    'Taker proved a lot of people wrong last night. He looked to be in much better health than the year before, and he and Wyatt worked really well together. 'Taker had to win for so many different reasons, and I'm glad they did it. I don't think the loss damages Wyatt, if anything the match proved that he can deliver when it comes to the big matches, and was the first step in fixing the damage done with the Cena feud.

    I loved the main event. I was dreading it, because Reigns hasn't been tested with someone that's not a ring general like Bryan, but this match was awesome. I can't understand how anyone can say Reigns came out of this looking weak; he took a massive beating, and was still able to get up no matter what Brock did, and busted him open. He got in more damage to Lesnar than Cena ever did. Reigns was able to shut a lot of people up last night, including myself. I think by this time next year Reigns will be ready to be the man...but there is only one man that deserves that title now and his name is Seth Rollins! If we treat Wrestlemania as rewarding the people who delivered the most in the past 12 months, then Rollins is that guy. No one has had a better or more consistent year. That was an amazing moment, and hell I'll say it; it was better than Bryan winning last year, because it came out of nowhere. Now you have 3 men leaving 'mania looking great because:

    -Rollins is champ
    -Reigns brought Brock to the edge
    -Lesnar never got pinned.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,011 ✭✭✭Tugboats


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    Match time including entrances:

    Ladder match: 18mins

    Orton/Rollins: 15mins

    HHH/Sting: 27mins

    Divas: 9mins

    Cena/Rusev 25mins

    Rock: 23mins

    Taker/Wyatt 24mins

    Lesnar/Reigns: 22mins


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,349 ✭✭✭✭super_furry


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    Only thing I wish they had done for Cena was after that USA USA promo, they should have had him come in the ring to Hulk Hogan's old Real American entrance.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,023 ✭✭✭seandotcomm


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    So they could have had either of the pre show matches on the main card and kept the Rock segment to a backstage skit which is what it should have been


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 46,837 ✭✭✭✭Mitch Connor


    So they could have had either of the pre show matches on the main card and kept the Rock segment to a backstage skit which is what it should have been

    If it sets up Rock vs HHH with Rousey involved for WM32, I won't care how much time it got last night!


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 41 Titus Andronicus


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    Lesnar's cut/bruise below his eye, was that from Reign's opening punch ?
    A bit real world if it was.

    Lesnar's bleeding after the ringpost, was that legit or blading ?


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,839 ✭✭✭Caovyn Lineah


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    Only thing I wish they had done for Cena was after that USA USA promo, they should have had him come in the ring to Hulk Hogan's old Real American entrance.

    They could have had Cena come out on the back of a bald eagle(albeit a huge one) while holding the heads of Saddam Hussein and Osama Bin Laden and he would still have been booed though.


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