Joe Schmidt

whatawaster

All hail

2011: Heineken Cup Winner
2012: Heineken Cup Winner
2013: European Challenge Cup Winner; Pro 12 Winner
2014: Six Nations Winner
2015: Six Nations Winner

We really have an incredible coach, certainly one with a claim to being the best in world rugby.

duffman13

whatawaster wrote: »

All hail

2011: Heineken Cup Winner
2012: Heineken Cup Winner
2013: European Challenge Cup Winner; Pro 12 Winner
2014: Six Nations Winner
2015: Six Nations Winner

We really have an incredible coach, certainly one with a claim to being the best in world rugby.

It will be incredible so see what he does with New Zealand when he takes over. Gotta say, I love the guy!

whatawaster

Hopefully he does a "Gatland" and stays on until the next world cup, maybe taking a year out to take over the lions.

Don't get me wrong, I'd hate to see him take a year away from Ireland, but I'd love to see a lions team coached by Joe take on the All-Blacks.

pickarooney

duffman13 wrote: »

It will be incredible so see what he does with New Zealand when he takes over. Gotta say, I love the guy!

I'd kind of like to see him coach France

Sorry I read that as Joe Schmidt what a waster! Special thanks to Mick Dawson and whoever else was responsible for getting him to Leinster and Ireland initially. Excellent achievements to date. I'm sure there'll be plenty more to come, hopefully he'll have even more success with Ireland. Very happy he's in our corner. Best thing is like Declan Kidney he's a good down to earth person!

Greyian

He's a bit like Jack Charlton though, isn't it?

thebaz

brilliant coach - loved to have had myself as a coach , instead of some of the clowns i had.
He's always so gracious in victory, too. Super coach.

aimee1

just read is son is still seriously ill, and he is going overseas this week coming to see specialists to see if they can come up with something. Hopefully they find something to help

whatawaster

Greyian wrote: »

He's a bit like Jack Charlton though, isn't it?

No.

Jack Charlton took a team of really good footballers - McGrath, O'Leary, Houghton, Whealan, Sheedy etc etc and made them play the only way HE knew how. Yeah, we got results, but that was because we had really bloody good players.

Joe Schmidt has taken a team full of good players and made them better than the sum of their parts by figuring out a winning formula. We play to our strengths. I for one haven't come close to boredom watching us under him.

His Leinster team played great rugby, but that was a whole different level, they had (relatively) better players.

marco_polo

Not sure what his medium/long term plans are but I certainly hope he sticks around post RWC.

ProudDUB

aimee1 wrote: »

just read is son is still seriously ill, and he is going overseas this week coming to see specialists to see if they can come up with something. Hopefully they find something to help

+1

They are flying out on Tuesday. I'm sure we all wish the wee lad the very best. Winning a trophy is great, but this puts it all in perspective.

Tin Foil Hat

whatawaster wrote: »

Hopefully he does a "Gatland" and stays on until the next world cup, maybe taking a year out to take over the lions.

Don't get me wrong, I'd hate to see him take a year away from Ireland, but I'd love to see a lions team coached by Joe take on the All-Blacks.

If he leaves Ireland, he's more likely to be managing NZ against the Lions, to be honest.

whatawaster

Tin Foil Hat wrote: »

If he leaves Ireland, he's more likely to be managing NZ against the Lions, to be honest.

I think Hansen has signed up until the end of the lions tour, so unless they have a nightmare world cup, I'd imagine he'll be there until then.

S. Goodspeed

Just imagine how much better we would be if he didn't have that alleged Leinster bias

KingBrian2

He is a great coach, brilliant man. The Irish Rugby Team is just epic. :):):):):):):):):):):):):):)

We are the Champions, we are the Champions of the World.

Buer

If Schmidt wants to be NZ coach, he will have to, at the least, be Lions coach first.

They don't rate the 6N in NZ. John Kirwan is the only coach that has ever been even given a S15 head coach job when based outside NZ.

I suspect Schmidt will have to wait until 2019 for the NZ job, if ever. There are several excellent Kiwi coaches around aside from him. If Hansen walks this year, I'd tip Dave Rennie for the top job.

bilston

Buer wrote: »

If Schmidt wants to be NZ coach, he will have to, at the least, be Lions coach first.

They don't rate the 6N in NZ. John Kirwan is the only coach that has ever been even given a S15 head coach job when based outside NZ.

I suspect Schmidt will have to wait until 2019 for the NZ job, if ever. There are several excellent Kiwi coaches around aside from him. If Hansen walks this year, I'd tip Dave Rennie for the top job.

Aye, Gatland has never been offered the job to the best of my knowledge and he has won a couple of Grand Slams and two other titles as well as reach a WC Semi. JS has been brillant for us but he hasn't matched Gatty yet.

Buer

Indeed. Gatland went back to NZ with multiple Premiership titles, a HEC title, a Challenge Cup and international head coach experience but was passed over for a S15 post.

To get the top job in NZ from a foreign base, Schmidt will have to make a huge wave at the RWC or with the Lions.

Regardless, his IRFU contract runs until late 2016 so he's going nowhere yet. I suspect he'll be offered the Lions gig at the end of it.

rrpc

Buer wrote: »

To get the top job in NZ from a foreign base, Schmidt will have to make a huge wave at the RWC or with the Lions.

I would add beating New Zealand to the list of requirements. I would be happy enough if he left with that on his record

digzy

pickarooney wrote: »

I'd kind of like to see him coach France

I'd hated to see him go there for our sake.
However, from a French viewpoint, if must be incredibly frustrating looking at that squad playing like that. I think if he was French coach they'd make the rwc final. Must be a nightmare job. They've not delivered consistent performances in ages. Though that 10 this evening:rolleyes:

Though lieveremont got them there too......

duckysauce

So who has Joe prepped as OH if Sexton gets injured for WC ??-- Madigan or Keatley . Is Paddy playing next week ?

vienne86

duckysauce wrote: »

So who has Joe prepped as OH if Sexton gets injured for WC ??-- Madigan or Keatley . Is Paddy playing next week ?

Wasn't Paddy playing for the Ravens on Friday? Wonder how he got on. He would be my second choice 10.

marco_polo

Think paddy is the only man that has the potential to get near JS standard as an international 10, but probably not in time for theb RWC. Will need to see what sort of form he comes back in but Madigan is probably still in the driving seat.

thebaz

marco_polo wrote: »

Think paddy is the only man that has the potential to get near JS standard as an international 10, but probably not in time for theb RWC. Will need to see what sort of form he comes back in but Madigan is probably still in the driving seat.

Madigan is rightly in the driving seat as backup for Sexton, who along with POC are probably the 2 irreplaceables in the team - Madigan has done well for province and team , given the way he is moved around , and the pressure it must be to take over from Sexton from the bench - done a really good job for me.

duckysauce

thebaz wrote: »

Madigan is rightly in the driving seat as backup for Sexton, who along with POC are probably the 2 irreplaceables in the team - Madigan has done well for province and team , given the way he is moved around , and the pressure it must be to take over from Sexton from the bench - done a really good job for me.

How many matches has Madigan played at OH not at pro 12 level but HC this year for leinster, and how many minutes during an international ?

marco_polo

thebaz wrote: »

Madigan is rightly in the driving seat as backup for Sexton, who along with POC are probably the 2 irreplaceables in the team - Madigan has done well for province and team , given the way he is moved around , and the pressure it must be to take over from Sexton from the bench - done a really good job for me.

Agreed I really like IM as a player so don't mean to sound harsh on him, but he is more the best available option rather than the heir apparent if you know what I mean.

thebaz

marco_polo wrote: »

Agreed I really like IM as a player so don't mean to sound harsh on him, but he is more the best available option rather than the heir apparent if you know what I mean.

I think he is the heir .
He should be starting 10 for leinster IMO - Perhaps MOC problems at leinster might be averted if he trusted him as his main 10, instead of Jimmy G . In his little cameos for Ireland , he has never really let us down - just needs a good run in a side , which he's not really getting , just moved around , anyway

marco_polo

Unsure but will politely agree to disagree, I'll concede he has never got a prolonged period amount of time to prove it one way or another.

vienne86

I think Jackson is a lovely OH. Lovely handling, and kicking from hand, and is good off the tee as well.....when he gets a chance. I really hope he can keep injury free.

vienne86

Schmidt on Miriam O'Callaghan now.

shuffol

vienne86 wrote: »

Schmidt on Miriam O'Callaghan now.

Lucky sod.

shuffol

shuffol wrote: »

Lucky sod.

I wonder if he would be more nervous doing that or kicking a 3 pointer...!

George Hook

You have to give credit to the team working with Schmidt too, I'm still impressed with how our scrum went against England.

Gidea

whatawaster wrote: »

All hail

2011: Heineken Cup Winner
2012: Heineken Cup Winner
2013: European Challenge Cup Winner; Pro 12 Winner
2014: Six Nations Winner
2015: Six Nations Winner

We really have an incredible coach, certainly one with a claim to being the best in world rugby.

Top 14 in 2010 too, the guy is unbelievable. A born and bred winner

deadybai

He almost conquered us beating New Zealand too.

Too bad we didn't do the slam. Probably should have last year.

I still think Schimdt will be judged on how well we do at the world cup. A semi final at least will be a good world cup. Anything less will be a failure. Can't wait for the world cup.

kidneyfan

He is hard working and humble with a great understanding of Rugby. He epitomises the virtues of the land of the long white cloud.

rrpc

George Hook wrote: »

You have to give credit to the team working with Schmidt too, I'm still impressed with how our scrum went against England.

Indeed. Would anyone else have picked Easterbunny as replacement for Plumtree? Yet Joe did and we all saw the results.

Buer

rrpc wrote: »

Indeed. Would anyone else have picked Easterbunny as replacement for Plumtree? Yet Joe did and we all saw the results.

I suspect SE would have been very high on the list of candidates for most head coaches, in fairness. We needed a forwards coach at short notice and his profile put him in the mix immediately.

vienne86

kidneyfan wrote: »

He is hard working and humble with a great understanding of Rugby. He epitomises the virtues of the land of the long white cloud.

I always get this sense of equality and fairness when he speaks - he treats everyone the same.

Dravokivich

duckysauce wrote: »

So who has Joe prepped as OH if Sexton gets injured for WC ??-- Madigan or Keatley . Is Paddy playing next week ?

Well, I wouldn't say player development is entirely down to Joe. So that'd be more for a provincial discussion.

Paddy by far is the more exciting prospect attacking from the boot.

Madigan, when built up to play as himself I feel is a safer bet for defense and going along with ball in hand. As it keeps the team lined up together instead of spread far apart when focusing on a kick/chase.

It all depends on how Joe wants the game to play out really.

stephen_n

But it's worth noting that SE is also involved in what's been a very misfiring lineout in the last two games.

Schmidt has some record though, phenomenal coach and I think the loss to Wales and the response from the team, shows exactly how good he is!

TommyOM

vienne86 wrote: »

I always get this sense of equality and fairness when he speaks - he treats everyone the same.

Unless you're Felix Jones.

The guy is just a class act throughout. He is the best coach Ireland has ever had by some distance and it is clear that all the players respect him. It's a crying shame that Ireland wasted so many years with Declan Kidney. Imagine if Schmidt had been at the helm for the 2011 world cup with Wales in the quarters and France in the semis..

Korat

So lucky to have him. Many thanks Isa Nacewa.

The All Blacks will come calling soon but we should move heaven and earth to try keep him.

MugMugs

For fly half, we#re not completely goosed if Sexy burns out.

Madigan is an ok FH. Keatley, JJ and Paddy can actually play some damm good ball too and if need be, remove place kicking from some of them and hand to Murray / Kearney if needed.

.ak

PJ has to be 2nd choice if all are fit, unless Madigan discovers some magical game management form over the next few months. It'll be interesting to see how much rugby PJ gets over the next while.

TommyOM

MugMugs wrote: »

For fly half, we#re not completely goosed if Sexy burns out.

Madigan is an ok FH. Keatley, JJ and Paddy can actually play some damm good ball too and if need be, remove place kicking from some of them and hand to Murray / Kearney if needed.

We really are. When Sexton plays teams win. The guy has only been around the top level for 6-7 years and has won three heineken cups, one Amlin, two Rabos, two six nations and a Lions series.

SaveOurLyric

TommyOM wrote: »

We really are. When Sexton plays teams win. The guy has only been around the top level for 6-7 years and has won three heineken cups, one Amlin, two Rabos, two six nations and a Lions series.

Does Keatley not have a higher (or perfect) 'when Keatley plays team wins' ratio than Sexton ?

rrpc

SaveOurLyric wrote: »

Does Keatley not have a higher (or perfect) 'when Keatley plays team wins' ratio than Sexton ?

Is he the only out half with a 100% kicking record this 6N?

SaveOurLyric

Clearly Keats is our man for the world cup.

Neil3030

Guys I think we saw in the last ten mins against Scotland what the model could be for when Sexton can't play; Murray basically ran the show - even ran the loop on at least one occasion!

ionadnapokot

I hope he doesnt coach the '17 Lions from a selfish point of view.
Gatland took a sabbatical in '13.
http://www.bbc.com/sport/0/rugby-union/25409195
Ireland without Schmidt? No thanks. Plus it will give Eng-Wal-Scot a detailed insight into his genius.
IRFU should try to do everything it can to renew his contract now. (I do find it sad that he has to take his son out of Ireland for specialist treatment). If we could secure Joe until the 2019 WC it will be a masterstroke.
Hansen contract runs until the end of 2017. If NZRU then came knocking to the IRFU, fair enough, he should be let go.if he wanted! But NZRU should pay for the IRFU for the privilege. Salary x2, at the very least.