Early fertiliser

Green farmer

Just wondering when would guys start thinking about early grass fertiliser? The temperature is forecast to stay mild over the next few days but I heard could get cold again after that. How long would the soil temperature need to be over 6 degrees before grass starts to grow. ? Or am I about a month too early yet ?

larrymiller

Green farmer wrote: »

Just wondering when would guys start thinking about early grass fertiliser? The temperature is forecast to stay mild over the next few days but I heard could get cold again after that. How long would the soil temperature need to be over 6 degrees before grass starts to grow. ? Or am I about a month too early yet ?

Some would say your a month to late.

ganmo

There's still snow on the ground in places at home so I doubt ground temp is where it should be

Greengrass1

Ground temp 9 here today

frazzledhome

Greengrass1 wrote: »

Ground temp 9 here today

8c here at 6 pm. Urea out 2 wks now and grass walking out of it especially the paddocks grazed 2+ weeks

ganmo

Let's say 1degree for latitude and another for altitude and a half for the snow
Gonna try get some out next week/this weekend before lambing kicks off

Green farmer

Greengrass1 wrote: »

Ground temp 9 here today

Would it need to stay above 6 for a few days before growth and would it stop if dropped back below 6?

frazzledhome

Green farmer wrote: »

Would it need to stay above 6 for a few days before growth and would it stop if dropped back below 6?

It won't drop now with days lengthening

freedominacup

frazzledhome wrote: »

It won't drop now with days lengthening

You had to bloody say it out loud. You shouldn't even be thinking it.

ganmo

freedominacup wrote: »

You had to bloody say it out loud. You shouldn't even be thinking it.

We can all thank frazz when the snow starts falling on paddys day

Greengrass1

frazzledhome wrote: »

8c here at 6 pm. Urea out 2 wks now and grass walking out of it especially the paddocks grazed 2+ weeks

Neighbour was out today with his new spreader. Dunno if it was air he was spreading but um going with my 2nd round tomorrow ðŸ˜ðŸ˜ðŸ˜

severeoversteer

the auld lad was saying that he witnessed drifts from heavy snow that were along by the ditches, made it into may before they all melted

he couldn't put a exact year on it but it was the early 1960's anyway

joejobrien

ground here at 5.5 degs this evening. good dry day

Brown Podzol

severeoversteer wrote: »

the auld lad was saying that he witnessed drifts from heavy snow that were along by the ditches, made it into may before they all melted

he couldn't put a exact year on it but it was the early 1960's anyway

Winter 62/63.

larrymiller

severeoversteer wrote: »

the auld lad was saying that he witnessed drifts from heavy snow that were along by the ditches, made it into may before they all melted

he couldn't put a exact year on it but it was the early 1960's anyway

My aul lad was just talking about snow in the 60's aswell

mf240

larrymiller wrote: »

My aul lad was just talking about snow in the 60's aswell

We had snow last week.

Kovu

severeoversteer wrote: »

the auld lad was saying that he witnessed drifts from heavy snow that were along by the ditches, made it into may before they all melted

he couldn't put a exact year on it but it was the early 1960's anyway

My granny was talking about that during the week! Was it the week that's in it for everyone to be reminiscing about the heavy snow? She was saying how Johnny the neighbour had walked to the fair in Mohill from the L. Allen side of Drumshanbo town and couldn't get back with the snow as it was as high as the sides of the road so you wouldn't know where you were. The cattle were able to walk over the ditches with the drifts and were wandering everywhere looking for food, she met their milchers coming to meet her when she was going with stooks of feed to them at the lake.

Reggie.

Kovu wrote: »

My granny was talking about that during the week! Was it the week that's in it for everyone to be reminiscing about the heavy snow? She was saying how Johnny the neighbour had walked to the fair in Mohill from the L. Allen side of Drumshanbo town and couldn't get back with the snow as it was as high as the sides of the road so you wouldn't know where you were. The cattle were able to walk over the ditches with the drifts and were wandering everywhere looking for food, she met their milchers coming to meet her when she was going with stooks of feed to them at the lake.

And that was just last week :eek:

Blackgrass

Hey gg will send someone round to tray test after 1st at ferting adventure if want, just need to find a weighing scales.
(Runs away quickly to avoid bucket of milk over head)

Greengrass1

Blackgrass wrote: »

Hey gg will send someone round to tray test after 1st at ferting adventure if want, just need to find a weighing scales.
(Runs away quickly to avoid bucket of milk over head)

I actually remember doing the yoke with the bucket in kildalton.
We never did tray test though

Blackgrass

Greengrass1 wrote: »

I actually remember doing the yoke with the bucket in kildalton.
We never did tray test though

Not a massive amount to it beyond that check out flow rates at different speeds as can change speed/ rate on go automatically and then few runs to check spreads evenly so measure out how much lands in each tray

restive

Is it to dry to spread urea now?

Miname

restive wrote: »

Is it to dry to spread urea now?

Not yet. There was a little skite of rain here today anyways.

restive

Just threw out 8 bags on 4 acres. Not a blade of grass in the field! Although the ground was damp.

frazzledhome

restive wrote: »

Is it to dry to spread urea now?

Rarely too dry for urea in Ireland. If you kneel and your knees get damp urea is safe

Reggie.

I think the slurry is going out soon here so ill have to hold back on the gran fert

jack o shea

how much per ton is gran lime?

6480

jack o shea wrote: »

how much per ton is gran lime?

150 a ton up here

Green farmer

That's cheap. Dairygold charge €183 a tonne in the munster area

Reggie.

Green farmer wrote: »

That's cheap. Dairygold charge €183 a tonne in the munster area

How much is usually applied per acre?

RobinBanks

frazzledhome wrote: »

Rarely too dry for urea in Ireland. If you kneel and your knees get damp urea is safe

Frazzle, how much urea per acre would you apply this time of year. I have weanlings out on silage ground and I was going to spread a few bags of urea on it hoping to get a fresh pick of grass so that I can keep them in this field for a while longer.

Green farmer

"Reggie quote"

All depends on your lime levels, but about 2 bags initially and 1 bag every year after that.

Injuryprone

Green farmer wrote: »

That's cheap. Dairygold charge €183 a tonne in the munster area

You'll have to change your rep.........they only charged me 141

Green farmer

Injuryprone wrote: »

You'll have to change your rep.........they only charged me 141

I don't really deal with a rep. Their idea of "doing me a deal was to give me 30 days free credit" I said I'd prefer to pay for things up front and get a cash discount. They started moaning about no discounts of fert etc. I'm not too impressed with Dairygold, their just conviently located near me .

marathon

Anyone got fertiliser out yet

Bullocks

marathon wrote: »

Anyone got fertiliser out yet

Not here in the west anyhow , the place is saturated and there is damn all growth starting . But something will hopefully change in the next week or two

marathon

I'm in the Southeast n it poured down lastnite and this morning. Forecast not great for the coming week

frazzledhome

Whole farm done with 1 bag of urea on 3&4 index 2.5 of 18/6/12 on rest. Any high K low P paddocks got 1 urea and will get 0-16-0 as soon as weather allows.

Half out farm done with urea the rest was just too wet. The silage area will get 3* 18/6/12 ASAP and topped up with urea. Has 3000 gls of slurry to date. Will 3 more as ground allows. It's ground the cows can't get too

Muckit

Great to be able to travel with tankers after all the rain. It's rain guns from the road or tankers fed to umbilical systems that are working this area. Even then its just to bring tank levels down a few foot. You'd be locked up for a few years if you were seen going with a fert spreader.

Miname

Slurrys out and have urea sitting in the yard. I'm hoping to get it spread at the weekend.

C0N0R

Miname wrote: »

Slurrys out and have urea sitting in the yard. I'm hoping to get it spread at the weekend.

You must be avoiding the rain I'm getting, would have been out this week if it wasn't for Monday and Tuesday's rain! Slurry piped out??

Farrell

Miname wrote: »

Slurrys out and have urea sitting in the yard. I'm hoping to get it spread at the weekend.

Would the ground temps be warm enough, especially with all frost & snow at the moment?

blue5000

marathon wrote: »

Anyone got fertiliser out yet

Hoping to go with half bag urea on grazed ground next week, nothing out so far except a few loads of slurry that went on bare ground. Soil temps are around 6 deg at 10cm. Rainfall this winter was double the average, can't see much barley seed going in the ground this month either.

frazzledhome

blue5000 wrote: »

Hoping to go with half bag urea on grazed ground next week, nothing out so far except a few loads of slurry that went on bare ground. Soil temps are around 6 deg at 10cm. Rainfall this winter was double the average, can't see much barley seed going in the ground this month either.

I don't know your sr but is a half bag enough?

C0N0R

frazzledhome wrote: »

I don't know your sr but is a half bag enough?

At This stage if one has nothing out should we be going with a full bag urea?? Not the highest stocking rate but would like to grow grass! And when would you do your next hit? Plan is to try get bag acre out, graze silage ground asap (any that has grass) and blast it with slurry then top up again with urea, what would you recommend rates wise?

blue5000

frazzledhome wrote: »

I don't know your sr but is a half bag enough?

Not over stocked here, around 130kg org N/ha. Sucklers, not dairy cows here, 1 bag per acre would destroy my credit limit!

Will have around 180-200 tons of silage left over, depending on when the winter ever ends. Will be using slurry this month as well on silage ground/ploughing it in for barley.

weatherbyfoxer

Better uptake with half a bag or urea per acre..you can alway go and spread the other half in a few weeks.your still spreading 23 units of N..not far of a full bag of CAN

Milked out

Nothing out here too wet to travel, would be concerned about leaching. Would ordinarily spread paddocks to be grazed last in first round first and then follow cows as they start out as would have autumn girls In calf. Will blanket with half a bag when weather dries up and follow cows then with 3/4 bag.forecast is ****e again have 20 small maidens and 20 strong ones with the bulling activity from the strong ones I wonder would they do as much damage as cows after. May put small ones out if any improvement on grazing block no shelter round here only a strip of wire tho

frazzledhome

weatherbyfoxer wrote: »

Better uptake with half a bag or urea per acre..you can alway go and spread the other half in a few weeks.your still spreading 23 units of N..not far of a full bag of CAN

That is the case in early Feb agreed but we're heading for Paddys day when second round should be going out

weatherbyfoxer

frazzledhome wrote: »

That is the case in early Feb agreed but we're heading for Paddys day when second round should be going out

Id still be slow to go with the full bag with the wet conditions this year..

Miname

C0N0R wrote: »

You must be avoiding the rain I'm getting, would have been out this week if it wasn't for Monday and Tuesday's rain! Slurry piped out??

Aye piped out by your boys. I've a lad drawing pig slurry to me at the moment and hoping to refill the tanks when the opportunity is there. I haven't checked or don't have a thermometer to. Check the ground but it's getting to the stage I need to be getting it out. I've around 40% grazed and covers wouldn't be overly hectic on the remaining ground. The half bag of urea to the won't break the bank and should get something moving soon.