Do you think you could beat Ronda Rousey?

DoYouEvenLift

My ego screams for me to confidently say yes because I'm taller than her, bigger and heavier than her and stronger than her but facts like how good a fighter and athlete she is make me actually say no. I do some but not enough cardio so that right there gives her a strong edge, but it's her training that I think would play the biggest part in her kicking my ass. I would still love to try though lol.

For reference:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1OARa6KXur0

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GgfEYR7debA

Easy Rod

DoYouEvenLift wrote: »

My ego screams for me to confidently say yes because I'm taller than her, bigger and heavier than her and stronger than her but facts like how good a fighter and athlete she is make me actually say no. I do some but not enough cardio so that right there gives her a strong edge, but it's her training that I think would play the biggest part in her kicking my ass. I would still love to try though lol.

For reference:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1OARa6KXur0

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GgfEYR7debA

Anyone who responds yes here is more than likely an idiot.

Professey Chin

No and you wouldnt either. Shed have a nice boards collection of arms

Mr. CooL ICE

No. And I honestly think she could beat most of the male 135ers

DoYouEvenLift

Professey Chin wrote: »

No and you wouldnt either. Shed have a nice boards collection of arms

'You' who?

Nicolas Cage wrote: »

No. And I honestly think she could beat most of the male 135ers

Please contact Dana White with this idea, would actually love to see a fight like that lol

cowzerp

Nicolas Cage wrote: »

No. And I honestly think she could beat most of the male 135ers

she wouldn't.

Mellor

DoYouEvenLift wrote: »

My ego screams for me to confidently say yes because I'm taller than her, bigger and heavier than her and stronger than her...

Lol none of that is gonna help. She'd she'll be able to throw you with easily. Like fully airbourne. Or via any of the other takedown options.
Once on the mat, she'd submit you pretty quickly. No question. She's a judo blackbelt FFS. And I'd assume you'd have little grappling experience with which to resist.
Even if submissions weren't allowed, she'd still beat you with strikes when pinned down.

MagicIRL

This is purely based on my own watching of MMA as a spectator, but I really think very few athletes do 'everything' to the high standard required to be the very best. In a sense, jack of all trades and master of none- That is what MMA essentially is. Being as well versed in all areas of combat so you can dismantle your opponent.

From my viewings, it just seems to me that, more often than not, when someone steps in with a sole pedigree in a specific art, they walk through their opponents. Rousey's judo does just that, and I don't see anyone beating her because of it. It takes her to a whole other level that the rest of that division can not match. It's like Anderson Silva's striking, he's so dominant on the counter that noone could stop him.

Just my 2 cent.

TL;DR- Ronda would ragdoll each and every one of us. She is immense.

DoYouEvenLift

Mellor wrote: »

Lol none of that is gonna help. She'd she'll be able to throw you with easily. Like fully airbourne. Or via any of the other takedown options.
Once on the mat, she'd submit you pretty quickly. No question. She's a judo blackbelt FFS. And I'd assume you'd have little grappling experience with which to resist.
Even if submissions weren't allowed, she'd still beat you with strikes when pinned down.

Do you have difficulty with reading comprehension?

Tiger Mcilroy

MagicIRL wrote: »

This is purely based on my own watching of MMA as a spectator, but I really think very few athletes do 'everything' to the high standard required to be the very best. In a sense, jack of all trades and master of none- That is what MMA essentially is. Being as well versed in all areas of combat so you can dismantle your opponent.

From my viewings, it just seems to me that, more often than not, when someone steps in with a sole pedigree in a specific art, they walk through their opponents. Rousey's judo does just that, and I don't see anyone beating her because of it. It takes her to a whole other level that the rest of that division can not match. It's like Anderson Silva's striking, he's so dominant on the counter that noone could stop him.

Just my 2 cent.

TL;DR- Ronda would ragdoll each and every one of us. She is immense.

Chris weidman called, he reckons your talking poop.

Dietsquirt

With this big 'Would she beat Floyd' in an mma/street fight debate - i'm definitely in Ronda's corner. If (when) she got her hands on Floyd she would beat the sh*t out of him.

With the greatest respect OP, I think she would hurt you bad. Some people are so silly when it comes to professional fighters.

Mellor

DoYouEvenLift wrote: »

Do you have difficulty with reading comprehension?

Nope, not in the slightest.
I'm well aware you acknowledged she's a better fighter, and you even conceded that you probably lose.
But it's still a ridiculous question in the first place. And wondering she might edge you die to cardio... Really?

DoYouEvenLift

Dietsquirt wrote: »

With this big 'Would she beat Floyd' in an mma/street fight debate - i'm definitely in Ronda's corner. If (when) she got her hands on Floyd she would beat the sh*t out of him.

With the greatest respect OP, I think she would hurt you bad. Some people are so silly when it comes to professional fighters.

Not another. Do people on boards just not read OPs fully before posting?

MagicIRL

Tiger Mcilroy wrote: »

Chris weidman called, he reckons your talking poop.

Perhaps Mr. Weidman would like to re-read the word 'could' in that post, which, as I'm sure an educated man as yourself would know, implies the past tense. All good things come to an end. Or you use PEDs and crush everyone. One or the other.

At his peak, Silva decimated everyone and everything in his division with relative ease. Rousey has done the exact same.

DoYouEvenLift

Mellor wrote: »

Nope, not in the slightest.
I'm well aware you acknowledged she's a better fighter, and you even conceded that you probably lose.
But it's still a ridiculous question in the first place. And wondering she might edge you die to cardio... Really?

I didn't concede that I'd probably lose, I conceded that I would lose.


Why's it a ridiculous question?


I added the part about cardio because if one was to fight her then one's best option is to just try and stick to landing punches since unless one's trained in grappling it's best to try and avoid it because that's instantly a loss against her. Cardio is a very important part of not getting gassed quickly so what's your issue with that?

yourdeadwright

Rhonda gets beat by all of the top 20 males at 135lbs,in the UFC
She's the best woman by a long shot but that cause all the other women are simply awful ,

The womens fight are exciting and it is but the Technique shown just isn't on the same level as the men ,90% of the time ,
Also I think fight IQ show by the women is dreadful,
Zingano is a bjj black belt and goes for a head lock when she hits the deck with Rousey white belts would know not to do that,
Holly holm is a boxing world champion and did you see how awful her striking looked,

In combat sport women are way behind men its just a fact, There so new to it its like watching men in the UFC in the early 90's,itll take time for them to grow into the sport

Rhonda is light years ahead of the rest but still wouldn't beat any of the top 20 males her weight in the UFC,

yourdeadwright

yourdeadwright wrote: »

Rhonda gets beat by all of the top 20 males at 135lbs,in the UFC
She's the best woman by a long shot but that cause all the other women are simply awful ,

The womens fight are exciting and it is but the Technique shown just isn't on the same level as the men ,90% of the time ,
Also I think fight IQ show by the women is dreadful,
Zingano is a bjj black belt and goes for a head lock when she hits the deck with Rousey white belts would know not to do that,
Holly holm is a boxing world champion and did you see how awful her striking looked,

In combat sport women are way behind men its just a fact, There so new to it its like watching men in the UFC in the early 90's,itll take time for them to grow into the sport

Rhonda is light years ahead of the rest but still wouldn't beat any of the top 20 males her weight in the UFC,

but Yes should she would beat me easy and maybe quicker than she did Zingano

Mellor

DoYouEvenLift wrote: »

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Why's it a ridiculous question?

Because she's a lifelong martial artist, and an elite grappler. And you have no grappling experience.
This isn't a slight on you btw. There's a reason grappling is such a huge part of MMA, because without it, a guy would be put on your back and dominated.

I added the part about cardio because if one was to fight her then one's best option is to just try and stick to landing punches since unless one's trained in grappling it's best to try and avoid it because that's instantly a loss against her. Cardio is a very important part of not getting gassed quickly so what's your issue with that?

One could try to stick to landing punches. But it'd be fairly easy for her to shoot under a punch and take a single or reap the leg. With zero takedown defense, one is going on his ass. It wouldn't last long enough for gassing to become an issue.
Again not you specifically, anybody without grappling experience.

glass half full

The question is; "Do you think you could you beat Ronda Rousey?"

YES I COULD BEAT RONDA ROUSEY........... at counting to ten in Irish (right here, right now, before she has time to learn the language, I COULD BEAT RONDA ROUSEY at counting to ten in Irish!!).

the nikkei is rising

Dietsquirt wrote: »

With this big 'Would she beat Floyd' in an mma/street fight debate - i'm definitely in Ronda's corner. If (when) she got her hands on Floyd she would beat the sh*t out of him.

With the greatest respect OP, I think she would hurt you bad. Some people are so silly when it comes to professional fighters.

Ronda beats any male under 200lbs if they have no fighting experience.
She loses badly to any level of male fighter no matter what weight, she wouldn't be ranked in cage warriors never mind the UFC.

As for Floyd, he plasters her nose to mat in under a minute, when he lands she goes down.

http://fat.gfycat.com/SparklingTastyAsianconstablebutterfly.webm

Here's Liz Carmouche landing a punch on Ronda before the takedown.

http://fat.gfycat.com/OpulentWeepyFirefly.webm

Here's Miesha landing a few punches.

http://www.gfycat.com/BareSnoopyHoneycreeper

Sarah McMann landing a big right hand.

http://fat.gfycat.com/DelightfulFearlessAchillestang.webm

Alexis Davis landing a few.


Floyd is immeasurably faster, more explosive, he has better technique and is just simply the superior athlete

Yeah Rousey could throw him, but not before he lands a big punch,unless we pretend he can't do what Liz Carmouche could.

Mellor

yourdeadwright wrote: »

Zingano is a bjj black belt and goes for a head lock when she hits the deck with Rousey white belts would know not to do that,

There's no way she's a blackbelt. Can't be. For the very reason you said, it was a basic mistake. any half competent grappler armbars her after doing that.

DoYouEvenLift

I'm 6'2 ~210 and have basically no fighting experience and still think she'd wreck me, it's her intensity as well, she seems similar to Jose Aldo with the way she seems to have absolutely no apprehension even when walking towards an opponent who's throwing punches left and right

Ush1

Mellor wrote: »

There's no way she's a blackbelt. Can't be. For the very reason you said, it was a basic mistake. any half competent grappler armbars her after doing that.

There's black belts and black belts.

Mike Massenzio has a black belt, think of that.

MagicIRL

After watching Ruan Potts (a bjj brown belt!) compete in the first pre-lim last weekend, anything is possible re: belt colour and ability!

rain on

Mellor wrote: »

There's no way she's a blackbelt. Can't be. For the very reason you said, it was a basic mistake. any half competent grappler armbars her after doing that.

She's a purple belt.

yourdeadwright

rain on wrote: »

She's a purple belt.

Sorry I thought I heard Rhonda call her a black belt in the build up ,
Still a terrible mistake from a purple belt,

MartyMcFly84

Alexis Davis is a BJJ black belt.

But Ronda is an Olympic medallist which at one time would of made her one of the best female Judo black belts in the world.

There are belts and competitive belts. They are different levels. Ronda was one of the best competitive black belts in Judo for a time, she would smoke most other female Judo black belts like swatting a fly.

yourdeadwright

MartyMcFly84 wrote: »

Alexis Davis is a BJJ black belt.

But Ronda is an Olympic medallist which at one time would of made her one of the best female Judo black belts in the world.

There are belts and competitive belts. They are different levels. Ronda was one of the best competitive black belts in Judo for a time, she would smoke most other female Judo black belts like swatting a fly.

I get that there are different levels, but going for a headlock has nothing to do with how good Rhonda is, its something you learn quite early in bjj, Just using it as an example of low fight IQ shown in women's fights

Still find it funny that people believe the UFC hype and think she'd beat 135lbs guys in the UFC .

rain on

yourdeadwright wrote: »

Sorry I thought I heard Rhonda call her a black belt in the build up ,
Still a terrible mistake from a purple belt,

Yeah I remember Ronda saying that, I kind of did a double take because she's definitely not a black belt.

The Gracie Breakdown for the fight does a good job of explaining why Cat left the arm out. It wasn't holding onto a headlock for no reason white belt style.

MartyMcFly84

I get that there are different levels, but going for a headlock has nothing to do with how good Rhonda is, its something you learn quite early in bjj, Just using it as an example of low fight IQ shown in women's fights

Still find it funny that people believe the UFC hype and think she'd beat 135lbs guys in the UFC .

Ronda goes for the headlock all the time. Sometimes head and arm sometimes just head. She just executes it way better.

We are often discouraged from using some Judo throws as they are risky. Or rather take a very long time to get good enough at them to use them effectively. This is really the feather in Ronda's cap that no one in her division will be able to catch up with her.

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MartyMcFly84 wrote: »

We are often discouraged from using some Judo throws as they are risky. Or rather take a very long time to get good enough at them to use them effectively. This is really the feather in Ronda's cap that no one in her division will be able to catch up with her.

The problem with teaching Judo throws in an MMA environment (or even BJJ) and that you're not learning Judo.. What does that mean?.. Well I'm reluctant to show people Judo throws without trying to explain what combinations the throws work with, a simple explanation would be to try teach a boxing newbie to sucker punch only.

Judo is complicated, its got a very steep learning curve and most throws (at least hip and shoulder throws) are contrary to what fighters are told from day one 'don't turn your back on your opponent' ~ hip and shoulder throws require the fighter to give their back up momentarily, no problem to a trained Judoka because he/she take taken your balance by then anyway but its crazy to try teach sucker punches/Judo throws.

If you're going to learn Judo you're best going to a separate Judo class and when you're competent try work it into your MMA or BJJ game.

RoboRat

no problem to a trained Judoka because he/she take taken your balance by then anyway but its crazy to try teach sucker punches/Judo throws.

And that is the most important thing that a lot of people fail to realise or even see. In Judo, the throw is only the second half of the movement, the first half is breaking balance to facilitate the throw. You can't just waltz in an do a hip throw as you would basically be offering your back.

In regards to the question of whether I could beat Rousey. I am 6 foot, 100kg and have trained in various martial arts since I was 8... I wouldn't last a full minute. I have rolled with lads half my size and been turned inside out and they have swept me like I was a blow up doll.

darced

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scudzilla

Rousey would beat me 9,999 times out of 10,000, but that one time when my hammer of justice connects.........:pac::pac:

Mellor

Ush1 wrote: »

There's black belts and black belts.

I'm well aware that they're are vastly different levels within blackbelt, in all belt too I suppose. But I'd expect no blackbelt to make a mistake like that. Which is why I didmt believe she was black. I see above she is actually purple which makes more sense.

Mellor

Here's something relative to the for World-Class female athlete verses male athlete debate.

http://observer.theguardian.com/osm/story/0,,543962,00.html
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karsten_Braasch

Cliffs
In '98 at the Oz Open, Venus and Serena felt they could beat a male tennis player ranked around the 200 mark.
Karsten Braasch, ranked at 203, takes up the offer. He didn't take it all that seriously by the sounds of things, he was described as playing with gentlemanly restraint, but none the less cruises through both of them one after the other on the warm up courts. I imagine they were giving it full intensity.

Braasch was described by one journalist as "a man whose training regime centred around a pack of cigarettes and more than a couple bottles of ice cold lager."
He said afterwards that they'd have no chance inside the top 500. And that he felt he was playing like a 600 player.

DoYouEvenLift

Mellor wrote: »

Here's something relative to the for World-Class female athlete verses male athlete debate.

http://observer.theguardian.com/osm/story/0,,543962,00.html
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karsten_Braasch

Cliffs
In '98 at the Oz Open, Venus and Serena felt they could beat a male tennis player ranked around the 200 mark.
Karsten Braasch, ranked at 203, takes up the offer. He didn't take it all that seriously by the sounds of things, he was described as playing with gentlemanly restraint, but none the less cruises through both of them one after the other on the warm up courts. I imagine they were giving it full intensity.

Braasch was described by one journalist as "a man whose training regime centred around a pack of cigarettes and more than a couple bottles of ice cold lager."
He said afterwards that they'd have no chance inside the top 500. And that he felt he was playing like a 600 player.

Interesting. I think there are few sports women could actually genuinely compete at the same level as men, none of which would be physical, definitely no contact sports. And by this I mean professional athletes.

chopperbyrne

There were two similar threads in After Hours about Katie Taylor and the same conclusions were reached. You don't stand a chance.

http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=76184515

http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=80169440

JJayoo

Her judo skills enable her to take opponents to the floor while gaining excellent positioning, it gives her a huge advantage over wrestlers, for example, who usually end up in full guard or half guard once they have successfully gained a takedown.

If it was a pure BJJ fight would she be equally dominant over the other women?

JJayoo

Walter Pitiful Abalone wrote: »

If you're going to learn Judo you're best going to a separate Judo class and when you're competent try work it into your MMA or BJJ game.

Also one of the first things you will be thought is how to fall/take a throw and this can be pretty harsh on the body of an adult, much easier to learn how to take falls when you are 3 foot tall and weigh 50 pounds.

DoYouEvenLift

chopperbyrne wrote: »

There were two similar threads in After Hours about Katie Taylor and the same conclusions were reached. You don't stand a chance.

http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=76184515

http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=80169440

Rousey's one thing because she's an MMA fighter and is unreal at take downs and grappling. Katie Taylor is a 5'5 130lbs boxer, I've 8" and 80lbs on her, I'd have more than a chance, as would any moderately built and healthy man, especially if we had to wear those safety helmets. If you said a light heavyweight, possibly even a middleweight, boxer at that same level I'd be more inclined to agree.

nxbyveromdwjpg

This is only a little relevant, the weight difference is a pity, it would be interesting to see her spar with a man her own weight

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o9xjs2fWJEs

Tigger

nm wrote: »

This is only a little relevant, the weight difference is a pity, it would be interesting to see her spar with a man her own weight

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o9xjs2fWJEs

what do they weigh there ?
140 v 210 ish?
that's a 50% difference; pointless really

darced

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ASOT

darced wrote: »

Rousey walks around about 155 which is not far off someone like Frankie Edgar.

Mousassi would not be able to play with male pro's that size like they were children.

100% agree with that last line Moussasi would without a doubt not be be able to rag doll the majority of male 135s like that. Fair enough there not going full on or whatever but I'd be fairly confident in most if not all of the male 135rs beating her easily.

Mellor

Tigger wrote: »

what do they weigh there ?
140 v 210 ish?
that's a 50% difference; pointless really

She's about 150 on fight night, so she's at least that there, if not 155.
That's not hugely relavent though, he was moving her about with ease, didn't realky need to dig deep into his weigh advantage to get through.

Tigger

Boards ignores the skip to on you tube?
anyhow skip to 2min 04sec

DoYouEvenLift

Tigger wrote: »

Boards ignores the skip to on you tube?
anyhow skip to 2min 04sec

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Faith+1

I'm 6 2 and well built. Would I beat her? F*ck no! If I hit her in my sleep I better wake up and apologise.

stephenl15

Dietsquirt wrote: »

With this big 'Would she beat Floyd' in an mma/street fight debate - i'm definitely in Ronda's corner. If (when) she got her hands on Floyd she would beat the sh*t out of him.

With the greatest respect OP, I think she would hurt you bad. Some people are so silly when it comes to professional fighters.

Are you actually serious? You genuinely think Ronda Rousey would beat Floyd Mayweather in a fight? I'm sorry but that is an absolutely outrageous statement.

MrStuffins

stephenl15 wrote: »

Are you actually serious? You genuinely think Ronda Rousey would beat Floyd Mayweather in a fight? I'm sorry but that is an absolutely outrageous statement.

In a boxing match, it's a silly proposition. In a street fight, what chance does Floyd have other than hitting Ronda on the way in before she gets a hold of him?