Finally... an Irish IPF affiliate

Hanley

[cross post from Strength Sports]

Great news for the sport in Ireland.

We're on the verge of having a federation recognised by the biggest and best fed world wide in powerlifting.

https://www.facebook.com/irishpowerliftingfed

But there'll be no world records being broken any time soon here...

podge57

Great news, the sport has grown a lot here recently, this will give lifters a chance to compete at the highest level.

Irish powerlifting also seems to have a lot of big fish in a small pond, it'll be good to get some exposure to the ocean!

WHIP IT!

Hanley wrote: »

But there'll be no world records being broken any time soon here...

Why do you say this, H? Are Irish PLs just too far behind at the moment?

papu

WHIP IT! wrote: »

Why do you say this, H? Are Irish PLs just too far behind at the moment?

I would imagine so.

Hanley

podge57 wrote: »

Great news, the sport has grown a lot here recently, this will give lifters a chance to compete at the highest level.

Irish powerlifting also seems to have a lot of big fish in a small pond, it'll be good to get some exposure to the ocean!

Fact. I can see a lot of people drowning. Or pretending they can't swim.

WHIP IT! wrote: »

Why do you say this, H? Are Irish PLs just too far behind at the moment?

Lol. This statement shows exactly how f*cked we are

IPF Men's raw world records at 93kg..

Squat - 300kg
Bench - 232.5kg
Deadlift - 372.5kg

Top Irish lifters are doing around 270/180/290

IPF Womens raw world records at 80kg...

Squat - 205kg
Bench - 135.5kg
Deadlift - 225kg

Top Irish lifters and "world champions" are doing around 145/80/160

THAT'S the gap.

Hanley

Look at it this way, if I had a PERFECT competition in the next 3-6 months I might do enough to pull off a ranking of 160th in the world.

...which I'd actually consider a MAJOR achievement.

The same result would have got top 10 in the recent WDFPF world championships.

(and that's not me claiming anything - just illustrating the difference in numbers and potential rankings)

135 bench. Jaysus

househero

Hanley wrote: »

Fact. I can see a lot of people drowning. Or pretending they can't swim.



Lol. This statement shows exactly how f*cked we are

IPF Men's raw world records at 93kg..

Squat - 300kg
Bench - 232.5kg
Deadlift - 372.5kg

Top Irish lifters are doing around 270/180/290

IPF Womens raw world records at 80kg...

Squat - 205kg
Bench - 135.5kg
Deadlift - 225kg

Top Irish lifters and "world champions" are doing around 145/80/160

THAT'S the gap.

Ah so it looks like I'm as strong as a really strong Irish lass! Haha haha... Gotta train harder

LuckyLloyd

Tbf, we look far less off the pace than we do in weightlifting (with a single exception) judging by those examples. This country doesn't have much of a strength culture.

Thud

Hanley wrote: »

[cross post from Strength Sports]


But there'll be no world records being broken any time soon here...

will there be a whole new set of IPF Irish/National records though?

Hanley

Thud wrote: »

will there be a whole new set of IPF Irish/National records though?

Seen as none exist, yes.

That's the pitfall of a new fed. BUT it legitimizes things internationally.

dartstothesea

They announced a comp yet? Was it May 28th or something I saw mentioned? Someone in Raw said they thought the comp would be invitation only, anyone know if that's untrue? Missed out on doing IPOs this April so this could be cool to do if in May.

dartstothesea

Ah there it is. Forget that May 28th crap above.

wrote:

'Competition Announcement!

Here is some info on our first competition.

Name: Irish Powerlifting Federation Inaugural Competition
Date: May 30th
Venue: Valley Leisure Centre, Newtownabbey

This initial competition is a Classic competition with a cap of 48 lifters. Memberships and entry will be available in the coming weeks.

There will be a follow up OPEN competition for the single ply lifters, details will be announced in due course. Thanks for your patience on this.

The purpose of reopening the IrishPF is to provide an opportunity for Irish lifters to represent Ireland on an IPF stage.

We all love the sport of powerlifting, and regardless of which federation you compete in, let's keep it about powerlifting.

Please bear with us guys, as the federation is very much so in its infancy and there is a lot that still needs ironed out.

Thanks, IrishPF Commitee'

Sounds like open application to compete anyway.

podge57

Thud wrote: »

will there be a whole new set of IPF Irish/National records though?

Hanley wrote: »

Seen as none exist, yes.

That's the pitfall of a new fed. BUT it legitimizes things internationally.

Didn't the IPF set minimum standards for records when they changed weight classes a few years ago?

Might be unnecessary to do it on a national level, but it could be an option.

Hanley

podge57 wrote: »

Didn't the IPF set minimum standards for records when they changed weight classes a few years ago?

Might be unnecessary to do it on a national level, but it could be an option.

Yah the term is "world standard" I believe.

Weightlifting had the same when they changed their weight classes.

Don't think it's done nationally tho. Could be an idea though!

BossArky

podge57 wrote: »

Didn't the IPF set minimum standards for records when they changed weight classes a few years ago?

Might be unnecessary to do it on a national level, but it could be an option.

Hanley wrote: »

Don't think it's done nationally tho. Could be an idea though!

Powerlifting Australia (the Australian IPF affiliate) set national standards when the weight classes changed back in 2011. Many of the equipped standards still stand 4 years later as I write this.

e.g.

• men 93kg equipped Squat standard: 307.5kg
• men 93kg equipped Total standard: 770kg
• men 83kg equipped Total standard: 720kg

There are many more standards yet to be achieved (& thus vacant records) in lighter & heavier equipped male weight classes - I won't list them all but you can see the full details here if you browse the equipped records page

A lot of those records could be broken - but many people these days shy away from equipped lifting due to the additional complexities involved and thus concentrate on Raw. Raw has taken off here hugely in the past 4 years.

You can see the different in quality between raw and equipped if you compare the raw vs equipped records (raw male 93kg total is just 49.5kg under the equipped standard, also the raw male 83kg total record is just 10kg under the male 83kg equipped total standard)... which shows that there are people competing raw who could demolish the equipped standards if they choose to. At least the standards in the equipped categories deter record grabbers going for "easy" records when they see there is little competition (vs. Raw which is highly competitive).

If you look at the Australian IPF Raw records you won't see any vacant records/standards listed. They have all been attained due to the higher volume of lifters and quality of lifting overall.

The point of the standards (obviously) is to prevent "easy" records by first come first served people who target specific weight classes/categories for the sake of a record because they know there is no competition in the one legged half wrapped with straps down equipped deadlift off a bosu-ball with optional slingshot category (an example).

I currently train at two gyms - once of which has a particular person who competes in a much younger/immature fed (non-IPF) for the sake of grabbing a record because there is currently a totally blank slate with no standards or records (even lifts!) set. They've been lifting ~3 months and are going for a "world record" in their next comp in a couple of months. Hehe.

Anyway - great that the IFP are getting setup in Ireland.