Dash cam thread (car videos only)

jca · 26-09-2017 06:23AM

BorneTobyWilde wrote: »

Seems you slowed and let him in. Should have kept boot in and had a little faith that he could see you.

Surely that was the correct thing to do, let the car in?

Caliden · 26-09-2017 07:59AM

jca wrote: »

Surely that was the correct thing to do, let the car in?

No. The onus of responsibility is on the merging car to match the speed of the traffic on the motorway and merge safely.

Slowing down to let them in is what causes congestion as the cars behind the cam car now also need to slow down.

The merging car should just have accelerated or braked earlier and enter the motorway behind the cam car.

Seve OB · 26-09-2017 08:22AM

Caliden wrote: »

Slowing down to let them in is what causes traffic as the cars behind the cam car now also need to slow down.

ehh thats not any cause of traffic!!!

Caliden · 26-09-2017 09:18AM

Seve OB wrote: »

ehh thats not any cause of traffic!!!

ok....
https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2007/12/071219103102.htm

"that slowing down below a critical speed when reacting to such an event, a driver would force the car behind to slow down further and the next car back to reduce its speed further still. The result of this is that several miles back, cars would finally grind to a halt, with drivers oblivious to the reason for their delay."

AndyBoBandy · 26-09-2017 09:47AM

I think what he meant was the 'traffic' is already there, on the particular road.

The action of braking is the cause of congestion, but not the traffic itself, which was always there to begin with.

Anyone any videos? where are those foreign compilations?

inforfun · 26-09-2017 10:17AM

AndyBoBandy wrote: »

Anyone any videos? where are those foreign compilations?

< hold my beer >

http://www.dumpert.nl/mediabase/7250175/46838e06/handremmetje_vergeten.html

http://www.dumpert.nl/mediabase/7249937/247bc27a/gta_oostblok_edition.html

http://www.dumpert.nl/mediabase/7249017/8773e189/drie_keer_is_scheepsrecht.html

http://www.dumpert.nl/mediabase/7246253/75dd8c1c/oprotten_met_die_auto_.html

And a long crash compilation with the best Suddenly Lada ever
http://www.dumpert.nl/mediabase/7235167/614535ca/dashcam_crashcompilatie.html

Kenny Logins · 26-09-2017 10:18AM

Seve OB wrote: »

ehh thats not any cause of traffic!!!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7wm-pZp_mi0

inforfun · 26-09-2017 10:47AM

Compilation you say?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=soHEpiK1TzU

BoardsMember · 26-09-2017 12:05PM

Deleted User wrote: »

It's not as if she didn't have plenty of time to get up to speed! Some people simply don't understand the concept of matching your speed to the speed of traffic already on the motorway before "zipping" in.

That works, assuming she is happy to do that speed. If not she has to brake hard, maybe come to a stop, and then join at a very slow speed.

Another option is for you to change lane into the middle lane, if it is clear. It gives them the chance to join the lane at the speed they are comfortable with and it strikes me as courteous, particularly if the person joining the motorway is not hugely confident in their merging skills.

georgefalls · 26-09-2017 12:54PM

BoardsMember wrote: »

That works, assuming she is happy to do that speed. If not she has to brake hard, maybe come to a stop, and then join at a very slow speed.

Another option is for you to change lane into the middle lane, if it is clear. It gives them the chance to join the lane at the speed they are comfortable with and it strikes me as courteous, particularly if the person joining the motorway is not hugely confident in their merging skills.

Then they shouldn't be on a motorway, until they are..!

There's classes available. No excuse really.

http://www.churchtownorwellmotoring.ie/advanced-driver-training/motorway-experience-training

BoardsMember · 26-09-2017 01:11PM

georgefalls wrote: »

Then they shouldn't be on a motorway, until they are..!

There's classes available. No excuse really.

http://www.churchtownorwellmotoring.ie/advanced-driver-training/motorway-experience-training

The roads, all roads, are full of people of varying degrees of competence and confidence in many things - parking, merging, navigating multi-lane roundabouts. Lacking confidence does not mean not capable of executing.

Good drivers preempt things, like in this case, maybe moving lane to let someone that is not intending to drive as fast as them to join without anyone having to break.

inforfun · 26-09-2017 01:52PM

Confidence might grow after time.
I am more worried about the ones with no talent to drive a car.
As i think it is a talent.
That clown not speeding up when needing to merge shows a lack of talent. As soon as you come into a situation like that you should already be aware what is going to happen and slow down or speed up, whatever works best i na situation.
Clowns like that just try to move into your lane, if you are lucky after they indicate but that is also lacking quite often.

They need to get into a lane where i am already. The onus is on them to make sure they can, not on me. Yes as a courtesy and to avoid these hopeless lot i move a lane if i can but sometimes that just isnt possible.

jca · 26-09-2017 02:59PM

Caliden wrote: »

No. The onus of responsibility is on the merging car to match the speed of the traffic on the motorway and merge safely.

Slowing down to let them in is what causes congestion as the cars behind the cam car now also need to slow down.

The merging car should just have accelerated or braked earlier and enter the motorway behind the cam car.

The onus of responsibility, blah blah blah will ya stop spouting ****e, the cam driver allowed the other car in out of courtesy. Courtesy now there's something missing on Irish roads, maybe the person in the merging car wasn't very confident and the cam driver picked up on this and let them in. I would do the same, obviously if I had room to move over into the next lane that's what I'd do, not everyone is comfortable with motorway mergers.

jca · 26-09-2017 03:06PM

inforfun wrote: »

Confidence might grow after time.
I am more worried about the ones with no talent to drive a car.
As i think it is a talent.
That clown not speeding up when needing to merge shows a lack of talent. As soon as you come into a situation like that you should already be aware what is going to happen and slow down or speed up, whatever works best i na situation.
Clowns like that just try to move into your lane, if you are lucky after they indicate but that is also lacking quite often.

They need to get into a lane where i am already. The onus is on them to make sure they can, not on me. Yes as a courtesy and to avoid these hopeless lot i move a lane if i can but sometimes that just isnt possible.

It's an acquired talent. Whether you learn driving a banger around a field or from 12 lessons with an instructor you have to acquire the required talents by building up your mileage. We were all there once lads.

oleras · 26-09-2017 03:36PM

jca wrote: »

The onus of responsibility, blah blah blah will ya stop spouting ****e, the cam driver allowed the other car in out of courtesy. Courtesy now there's something missing on Irish roads, maybe the person in the merging car wasn't very confident and the cam driver picked up on this and let them in. I would do the same, obviously if I had room to move over into the next lane that's what I'd do, not everyone is comfortable with motorway mergers.

The problem arises when you cant move to the right lane. What invariably happens is you slow down to let them merge in...they slow down, you slow down...they slow down, you speed up...they speed up.

I will give you a gap in front, either get up to speed and slot in or else wait till i am passed you, its up to you.

Caliden · 26-09-2017 03:52PM

jca wrote: »

The onus of responsibility, blah blah blah will ya stop spouting ****e, the cam driver allowed the other car in out of courtesy. Courtesy now there's something missing on Irish roads, maybe the person in the merging car wasn't very confident and the cam driver picked up on this and let them in. I would do the same, obviously if I had room to move over into the next lane that's what I'd do, not everyone is comfortable with motorway mergers.

Admitting you have trouble with merging is the first step.

Don't worry darling, I'm sure with time you'll become a competent driver.

Sam Quentin · 26-09-2017 06:17PM

Gerrup Outta Dat! wrote: »

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w9RvoyK6ZKQ

I really don't think that was bad merging!? He was going at a decent speed and you were still coming hard enough, maybe just maybe he got a wee bit spooked, did you flash him on in when you observed him/her worrying a bit about you approaching? Anyway nothing major going on, a good example maybe of slight confusion by both cars.. No need to jump on your brakes, but ease of the gas a bit and maybe a wee flash in such situations.

josip · 26-09-2017 06:24PM

I prefer merging lanes that run parallel with the driving lane for a bit, you can use your mirrors to see what's already in the lane before you merge in.

The merging lanes in the vid converge to a single make or break point putting the existing traffic on the mainline in your blind spot all the time your approaching the merge point. I hate them.

26-09-2017 06:24PM

Sam Quentin wrote: »

I really don't think that was bad merging!? He was going at a decent speed and you were still coming hard enough, maybe just maybe he got a wee bit spooked, did you flash him on in when you observed him/her worrying a bit about you approaching? Anyway nothing major going on, a good example maybe of slight confusion by both cars.. No need to jump on your brakes, but ease of the gas a bit and maybe a wee flash in such situations.

He was going at a speed that was at best guess 20kmh slower than the traffic on the motorway, that's not the way to merge! (unless you drive something that's limited to 90kmh)

Truckermal · 26-09-2017 06:30PM

Deleted User wrote: »

He was going at a speed that was at best guess 20kmh slower than the traffic on the motorway, that's not the way to merge! (unless you drive something that's limited to 90kmh)

The truck I drive is normally grossing 46T and limited to 85KPH and I've never had a problem merging! The amount of fools I see every day who cannot gather that speed in modern cars is unbelievable....

AndyBoBandy · 26-09-2017 06:33PM

Truckermal wrote: »

The truck I drive is normally grossing 46T and limited to 85KPH and I've never had a problem merging! The amount of fools I see every day who cannot gather that speed in modern cars is unbelievable....

Merging onto the M1 southbound at Lissenhall (down a big slope, onto a 120 km/h road), and the amount of tools you get doing 65-70 km/h, just plodding on down to the motorway is un real.

and the real head melter is that lane becomes the new lane 1 of the motorway (the point where 2 become 3 lanes on the M1), and the tools will still plod over into lane 2 (middle lane) at 80 km/h.

Sam Quentin · 26-09-2017 06:36PM

[Deleted User] wrote: »

He was going at a speed that was at best guess 20kmh slower than the traffic on the motorway, that's not the way to merge! (unless you drive something that's limited to 90kmh)

Yes he did slow down and eventually tipped his brakes, I thought he was going fine when he first appears in the 'clip', I still feel he got just a tad spooked as he seen you approach.. Again a wee flash and ease off just slightly when you observe his slightly nervous situation.. It does relax low mileage drivers and gives them the confidence to drive on(your going grand)...

26-09-2017 06:40PM

Truckermal wrote: »

The truck I drive is normally grossing 46T and limited to 85KPH and I've never had a problem merging! The amount of fools I see every day who cannot gather that speed in modern cars is unbelievable....

Well, when drivers see one of those merging, they (usually) know it isn't going to accelerate to 120kmh like a Ferrari or Tesla :P so they give it room.

Dartz · 26-09-2017 06:52PM

Truckermal wrote: »

The truck I drive is normally grossing 46T and limited to 85KPH and I've never had a problem merging! The amount of fools I see every day who cannot gather that speed in modern cars is unbelievable....

It's a well known fact that5 if you try an accelerate in a car these days you and everyone you care about will be flung around the cabin like ragdolls before beiing burned alive in the inevitable accident.

Haven't you seen the ads by the RSA?