Should Mick Jagger date "age appropriately"?

DavidRamsay99

Rock legend and lothario, Mick Jagger, 71, is apparently dating a 28 year old woman named Alicia Rountree, the former girlfriend of actor Jude Law, 42.

Over the decades it is believed that Jagger has bedded literally thousands of woman.

Apparently legions of feminists are in uproar and are screaming about the patriarchy again.

Should he or can he be stopped?

DellyBelly

If I was him I'd be aiming lower....fair play to him!!!

beertons

Cut off his viagra supply, that'd calm him down a bit.

Tabnabs

I find my life is so much simpler if I just forget about the existence of "celebrities" and ignore them when they are not on the screen, radio, whatever.

mrsdewinter

DavidRamsay99 wrote: »

Rock legend and lothario, Mick Jagger, 71, is apparently dating a 28 year old woman named Alicia Rountree, the former girlfriend of actor Jude Law, 42.

Over the decades it is believed that Jagger has bedded literally thousands of woman.

Apparently legions of feminists are in uproar and are screaming about the patriarchy again.

Should he or can he be stopped?

Feministso in uproar? Yeah, right. Cringeing at the thought, more like...

DavidRamsay99

People will say that wealth and celebrity are the real reason why Jagger is still bedding beautiful young things.
Can that accusation really be sustained?
Jagger is a man with raw energy, passion and brazen charm.
Men who are one third of his age can't get women because they are insecure, socially inept and plain lazy.
People who attack Jagger are just jealous.
Men want to be him and women want to be with him.
Simple.

Think of all the insipid wussy so-called stars in pop music at the moment e.g. Ed Sheeran ffs!

None of these feminized pansies come close to Jagger. A real MAN.

Wibbs

DavidRamsay99 wrote: »

None of these feminized pansies come close to Jagger. A real MAN.

While I have a huge amount of respect and frankly sheer awe at how fit Mick is for a man of any age, you might want to look back in his history before you build your homophobic "real man" statue to him(no homo, no doubt...).

Jagger was seen by the usual knuckle draggers as a "feminised pansy":rolleyes: back in the day. He was the original androgynous, cross dressing, sexually "curious" rock star. Man skirts, eyeliner, lippy and rouge was the order of the day for quite a while and he was caught in bed with a Mr Bowie at one point. He came across as extremely "effeminate" for the hard of thinking and this was remarked on often in the press of the time, as were snide accusations of man love. Mr Sheeran looks like a hairy chested lumberjack compared to Jagger when they were of similar age.

It always amused me how some rock stars garner "real man" accolades from some. The 80's was a classic for it. Where you had "heavy metal" bands that were squeezed into spandex and spent two hours in makeup and hair before "rocking hard" on stage. :pac:

As for his age gap girlfriend? Good luck to him I say, more power to his elbow and other body parts. How does he do it? Well yes he is extremely fit, has a great head of hair, but it's a long time since he was the "beautiful boy" of 60's/70's music. It's his reputation and money and talent and legend that gets them in. And again fair play, but he is so far out of the sphere of normal male life you'd need the services of the Hubble telescope to see him.

eviltwin

No he shouldn't. Not if he doesn't want to. He's raised his kids, he's single...he can do what he wants.

Stopped? I see consenting adults consenting. Not seeing an issue.

ancapailldorcha

eviltwin wrote: »

No he shouldn't. Not if he doesn't want to. He's raised his kids, he's single...he can do what he wants.

Deleted User wrote: »

Stopped? I see consenting adults consenting. Not seeing an issue.

Same here.

As an aside, a cursory glance at the interwebs reveals that Mick is 74. Jaw meet floor.

JaseBelleVie

If I was still able to go out with and bed a 28 year old model when I'm 74, the only way for someone to stop me would be to shoot me.

Let them at it. They're both consenting adults. Once nobody is getting hurt, let them at it. It's nobody else's business, really.

And then, of course, the "lad" in me is there screaming: "Go on, my son! Give her one for me!" as well. So yeah.

jimgoose

28? She've a lot of road done for a model. He must be finally feeling his age, the poor oul' divil.

Iranoutofideas

Should Stephen Fry date age appropriately?

JaseBelleVie

Iranoutofideas wrote: »

Should Stephen Fry date age appropriately?

No. He shouldn't be dating at all, seeing as he's married. :P

DavidRamsay99

Wibbs wrote: »

While I have a huge amount of respect and frankly sheer awe at how fit Mick is for a man of any age, you might want to look back in his history before you build your homophobic "real man" statue to him(no homo, no doubt...).

Jagger was seen by the usual knuckle draggers as a "feminised pansy":rolleyes: back in the day. He was the original androgynous, cross dressing, sexually "curious" rock star. Man skirts, eyeliner, lippy and rouge was the order of the day for quite a while and he was caught in bed with a Mr Bowie at one point. He came across as extremely "effeminate" for the hard of thinking and this was remarked on often in the press of the time, as were snide accusations of man love. Mr Sheeran looks like a hairy chested lumberjack compared to Jagger when they were of similar age.

It always amused me how some rock stars garner "real man" accolades from some. The 80's was a classic for it. Where you had "heavy metal" bands that were squeezed into spandex and spent two hours in makeup and hair before "rocking hard" on stage. :pac:

As for his age gap girlfriend? Good luck to him I say, more power to his elbow and other body parts. How does he do it? Well yes he is extremely fit, has a great head of hair, but it's a long time since he was the "beautiful boy" of 60's/70's music. It's his reputation and money and talent and legend that gets them in. And again fair play, but he is so far out of the sphere of normal male life you'd need the services of the Hubble telescope to see him.

If a man wears make up or dresses effeminately or sleeps with men is neither here nor there. A man with balls, tough in cheek charm and bold brazenness is what I am talking about. This is why Jagger is an exciting sexual adventurer and why wussies and painful pathetic milksops like Ed Sheeran are here today and gone tomorrow. Jagger is a throwback to the dashing bounders and libertines of yesteryear like John Wilmot, Marquis de Sade, Lord Byron, Pierre Choderlos de Laclos and Giacomo Casanova.

ancapailldorcha

DavidRamsay99 wrote: »

...wussies and painful pathetic milksops...

Less of this please.

FunLover18

DavidRamsay99 wrote: »

Rock legend and lothario, Mick Jagger, 71, is apparently dating a 28 year old woman named Alicia Rountree, the former girlfriend of actor Jude Law, 42.

Over the decades it is believed that Jagger has bedded literally thousands of woman.

Apparently legions of feminists are in uproar and are screaming about the patriarchy again.

Should he or can he be stopped?

Do you have a link to said uproar? I'm genuinely curious.

The woman in question is 28 and well capable of making her own decisions.

H3llR4iser

FunLover18 wrote: »

Do you have a link to said uproar? I'm genuinely curious.

The woman in question is 28 and well capable of making her own decisions.

This, a million times. All these arguments about "age" imply that the "poor woman" is actually lacking a brain and responsibility for her own actions. If she gets her wheels going with a 74 years old man, it's her business. If it was the other way around, there would be some smirking comments about the "toy boy" but nobody would get up in arms.

ancapailldorcha

FunLover18 wrote: »

Do you have a link to said uproar? I'm genuinely curious.

The woman in question is 28 and well capable of making her own decisions.

I'd say these arguments are more harmful to women than men in these instances.

Wibbs

DavidRamsay99 wrote: »

If a man wears make up or dresses effeminately or sleeps with men is neither here nor there.

Yet you used the words "feminized pansies" to describe other men who aren't "real" according to you? Boy that's some disconnect you got going on there. :pac:

The legions of feminists in uproar have been a bit low key about it, since I never heard anything about it.

He can date whoever he wants, they're both adults.

DavidRamsay99

Wibbs wrote: »

Yet you used the words "feminized pansies" to describe other men who aren't "real" according to you? Boy that's some disconnect you got going on there. :pac:

A man can get in touch with his feminine side but not surrender his man card. Mick Jagger and Warren Beatty and Marlon Brando and other legendary ladykillers are examples.

The "feminized pansies" I was referring to such as Ed Sheeran and others are men who are effeminate with no purpose. They aren't getting any women by doing it and they are not gay either. Why are they behaving in this self-destructive way except through emasculated self-hate?

Flamboyantly gay stars like Freddy Mercury, Elton John, George Michael and Boy George had numerous gay sexual conquests. They are highly masculine gay counterparts to Jagger who is the ultimate hetero man.

ancapailldorcha

DavidRamsay99 wrote: »

The "feminized pansies" I was referring to such as Ed Sheeran and others are men who are effeminate with no purpose. They aren't getting any women by doing it and they are not gay either. Why are they behaving in this self-destructive way except through emasculated self-hate?

Self-hate? Really? They're dressing and presenting themselves in ways that make them feel good about themselves.

DavidRamsay99 wrote: »

Flamboyantly gay stars like Freddy Mercury, Elton John, George Michael and Boy George had numerous gay sexual conquests. They are highly masculine gay counterparts to Jagger who is the ultimate hetero man.

A string of one-night stands and sexual encounters is what constitutes the "ultimate hetero man"? Why?

It's a very narrow definition of masculinity if it's based solely on numbers of sexual partners. A one-faceted person is a boring person.

ancapailldorcha

Candie wrote: »

It's a very narrow definition of masculinity if it's based solely on numbers of sexual partners. A one-faceted person is a boring person.

I find it a bit sad to be honest. There's more to life than chasing after sexual partners.

Wibbs

DavidRamsay99 wrote: »

A man can get in touch with his feminine side but not surrender his man card.

Man card? Really? This gets better and better.

DavidRamsay99

ancapailldorcha wrote: »

Self-hate? Really? They're dressing and presenting themselves in ways that make them feel good about themselves.

If they aren't bedding women like the Rolling Stones and Led Zeppelin were or the hair rock bands of the 1980s like Europe and Def Leppard did then what is the point?

A string of one-night stands and sexual encounters is what constitutes the "ultimate hetero man"? Why?

Rock heroes should be having Caligula scale orgies of debauchery because the apocalypse is over the next hill.

ancapailldorcha

DavidRamsay99 wrote: »

If they aren't bedding women like the Rolling Stones and Led Zeppelin were or the hair rock bands of the 1980s like Europe and Def Leppard did then what is the point?

The music? Doing something they love? There's more to life than sex.

DavidRamsay99 wrote: »

Rock heroes should be having Caligula scale orgies of debauchery.

Why?

DavidRamsay99

ancapailldorcha wrote: »

I find it a bit sad to be honest. There's more to life than chasing after sexual partners.

No there isn't.

tritium

He's an adult, she's an adult, I'm inclined to assume they can make decisions as adults

(Not really sure why this one should be any more controversial than large age gap relationships involving Sam Taylor Wood, Pavarotti, Cher, Harrison Ford,......)

DavidRamsay99

ancapailldorcha wrote: »

The music? Doing something they love? There's more to life than sex.

The purpose of the music is to get women.

Why?

Why? In the heydey of the big rock bands in the 1960s and 1970s women literally queued up to have sex with the likes of Robert Plant, Mick Jagger, Keith Moon etc. Their lifestyles were endless group sex with multiple women.

ancapailldorcha

DavidRamsay99 wrote: »

No there isn't.

What makes you say that?

jimgoose

ancapailldorcha wrote: »

What makes you say that?

The fact that he's 14. Dave, where do you stand on the likes of Freddie Mercury and David Bowie, who by all accounts rode fields of everything? :pac:

DavidRamsay99

jimgoose wrote: »

The fact that he's 14. Dave, where do you stand on the likes of Freddie Mercury and David Bowie, who by all accounts rode fields of everything? :pac:

Proper bloody men is what they were. They had sexual charisma, animal energy and they made full use of it.

What passes for celebrity today is pitiful.

FunLover18

DavidRamsay99 wrote:

The purpose of the music is to get women.

By any chance do you have a shrine to Barney Stinson in your wardrobe?

ancapailldorcha

DavidRamsay99 wrote: »

Proper bloody men is what they were. They had sexual charisma, animal energy and they made full use of it.

What passes for celebrity today is pitiful.

How does a string of sexual encounters make one a "proper bloody man"?

KomradeBishop

The idea of age being a moral factor in relationships, has pretty much no justification, so long as it's legal.

eternal

I wouldn't let him near me.

eternal

eternal wrote: »

I wouldn't let him near me.

Same.
He's a wizened old man, albeit one with fame and hair and presumably his own teeth, but still a wizened old man all the same.

DavidRamsay99

ancapailldorcha wrote: »

How does a string of sexual encounters make one a "proper bloody man"?

H3llR4iser

H3llR4iser wrote: »

If it was the other way around, there would be some smirking comments about the "toy boy" but nobody would get up in arms.

I don't think anyone is up in arms over this either, regardless of the hyperbolic OP.

ancapailldorcha

DavidRamsay99 wrote: »

You've not answered the question.

DavidRamsay99

ancapailldorcha wrote: »

You've not answered the question.

Jesus wept.

ancapailldorcha

DavidRamsay99 wrote: »

Jesus wept.

That's not really an answer.

DellyBelly

ancapailldorcha wrote: »

How does a string of sexual encounters make one a "proper bloody man"?

It's all about numbers! In school here the guy with the most notches in his bedpost is what we look at as being a proper man.

ancapailldorcha

DellyBelly wrote: »

It's all about numbers! In school here the guy with the most notches in his bedpost is what we look at as being a proper man.

I'm asking why you think this is? How does accumulating said notches enhance one's masculinity?

ancapailldorcha

ancapailldorcha wrote: »

I'm asking why you think this is? How does accumulating said notches enhance one's masculinity?

I think it can only be from the perspective of a teenager, when you're so driven by your various lusts that everything else is (almost) eclipsed by your hormones.

The measure of a man or woman is a much more detailed and nuanced thing than just one aspect of them, but it might take a bit of growing up to see that.

ancapailldorcha

Candie wrote: »

I think it can only be from the perspective of a teenager, when you're so driven by your various lusts that everything else is (almost) eclipsed by your hormones.

The measure of a man or woman is a much more detailed and nuanced thing than just one aspect of them, but it might take a bit of growing up to see that.

My first thoughts exactly. Just thought I'd ask though in case said thoughts were incorrect.

The people most concerned with what constitutes a 'man' often seem to be those barely established in boyhood. Conversely some women like to hang on to the tag of 'girl' for as long as possible, with it's implications of youth and naivety. We value ourselves in all the wrong ways sometimes, I think. Luckily most of us seem to grow out of it.

Potatoeman

DavidRamsay99 wrote: »

People will say that wealth and celebrity are the real reason why Jagger is still bedding beautiful young things.
Can that accusation really be sustained?
Jagger is a man with raw energy, passion and brazen charm.
Men who are one third of his age can't get women because they are insecure, socially inept and plain lazy.
People who attack Jagger are just jealous.
Men want to be him and women want to be with him.
Simple.

Think of all the insipid wussy so-called stars in pop music at the moment e.g. Ed Sheeran ffs!

None of these feminized pansies come close to Jagger. A real MAN.

Im sure his charm and energy you mention make him apealing but his fame and fortune are huge factors.

K-9

Wibbs wrote: »

Man card? Really? This gets better and better.

Being a man isn't about ticking boxes to get this man membership card! Confidence and just comfort in ones skin is a big part of it to me, being an individual and not some mancard thing!

Anyway, good luck to Jagger. The only thing is if they've kids it's a huge gap.