Joe.ie & the like

Banjaxed82

What's the future for Joe.ie & the like? - Websites that essentially survive on other people's content. Is it really something that's sustainable going forward?

I notice (especially in the last few months) how these websites are posting and reposting the same stories a few times a day, obviously struggling with lack of content to justify the daily quote of posts they must put online via their various social media sources.

Content is king, and if you create your own (quality) content, you're on to a good one. What will become of these sites?

Ush1

Worked for Google hasn't it?

Banjaxed82

Ush1 wrote: »

Worked for Google hasn't it?

Hardly a comparison.

Ush1

Banjaxed82 wrote: »

Hardly a comparison.

What's the future for Joe.ie & the like? - Websites that essentially survive on other people's content

So a search engine isn't surviving on other peoples content?

Birneybau

Ush1 wrote: »

Worked for Google hasn't it?

Whut?

Would you compare the Yellow Pages (not the Hun's) with the Daily Star?

Ush1

Birneybau wrote: »

Whut?

Would you compare the Yellow Pages (not the Hun's) with the Daily Star?

Do you buy copies of the Google Star?

Do people know how advertising companies work?

Tangatagamadda Chaddabinga Bonga Bungo

They probably have very minimal costs associated with actually running what they do so I'm sure they can keep going as they are for a good while longer.

Banjaxed82

Ush1 wrote: »

So a search engine isn't surviving on other peoples content?

Anyone could set up a Joe.ie type website tomorrow. Setting up a Multi-billion dollar corporate empire is not so easy.

Ush1

Banjaxed82 wrote: »

Anyone could set up a Joe.ie type website tomorrow. Setting up a Multi-billion dollar corporate empire is not so easy.

Google weren't multi-billion when they started.

hfallada

Irish websites lack international appeal and their growth is very much limited. Take the huffingtonpost.com, which was a US online news/content site that had international appeal from the start. It became very popular in English speaking countries.

But an Irish site similar to it will have no appeal. No one living in NYC will care about some Irish C-Listers great arse

The Gibzilla

Joeie & The Like? These modern band names are rubbish!

obriendj

Joe.ie and the likes seem to have the same content. but it seems that they put there own little (annoying) spin on it with their headline (funniest clip you will EVER see or Hilarious footage of man walking across the street)

Then include those gifs with memes where an actor winking at the screen over and over.

Its trash content that will survive the same way the daily mail and the star has survived this long. one of the sites like Joe or Broadsheet will simply co-exist. While showing the same news stories and claiming they are slightly different

syklops

Facebook also relies on other peoples content. As does Twitter. Technically speaking so does Boards.ie.

Ush1

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Aongus Von Bismarck

My brother is always posting Joe.ie articles to his Facebook page. I visited it once. Full of moronic nonsense about being a 'bloke' and 'the footie'.

Dravokivich

A lot of'em are the same. read a good rant about'em here a while back: http://www.thebestpageintheuniverse.net/c.cgi?u=buzzfeed

Unfortunately, it's become some sort of popular journalism, similar to the way you've Justin Beiber and One Direction as popular music.

Banjaxed82

hfallada wrote: »

Irish websites lack international appeal and their growth is very much limited. Take the huffingtonpost.com, which was a US online news/content site that had international appeal from the start. It became very popular in English speaking countries.

But an Irish site similar to it will have no appeal. No one living in NYC will care about some Irish C-Listers great arse

Exactly. The lack of appeal outside of the Irish market, in tandem with the quite poor content they've been pumping out the last few months, wouldn't fill me with hope.

If someone falls over, it warrants a post on their facebook. It's obvious they haven't got the required content to sustain a quality control necessary to sustain into the future.

byrneg28

What's wrong with it ? It works , has a specific target audience who connect with it and it's fun, easy-reading.

It's better than how some newspapers (Daily Mail, Daily Star) have been going ''Look what I found in my tesco vinegar bottle'' and ''giant zit , 30 years old, being popped''

I don't really consider myself a newspaper reader or anything but I would visit Joe.ie regularly and I have female friends who would visit Her.ie. Joe.ie targets teenage - 20s males and I'm sure advertising in this area would be easy, so that's probably where they make all there money.

Sure it'll never be google as said above.. but as long as there's readers, it'll continue to exist.


You could argue yes anyone could set-up time to do a similar website, but Joe.ie has made such a name for itself lately and it must have some sort of money in order to Advertise at a UFC fight in Las Vegas

''Unfortunately, it's popular journalism'', I hate to tell yous lads but time moves on from the Guthenberg press and nailing notes to walls.

http://blog.paddypower.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/09/ShimmeringColossalCarpenterant.gif

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I really like joe.ie because I love original and hilarious observations on Irish culture such as the Glenroe theme reminding me of school the next day or being forced to drink flat 7up when I was sick.

Banjaxed82

byrneg28 wrote: »

What's wrong with it ? It works , has a specific target audience who connect with it and it's fun, easy-reading.

It's better than how some newspapers (Daily Mail, Daily Star) have been going ''Look what I found in my tesco vinegar bottle'' and ''giant zit , 30 years old, being popped''

I don't really consider myself a newspaper reader or anything but I would visit Joe.ie regularly and I have female friends who would visit Her.ie. Joe.ie targets teenage - 20s males and I'm sure advertising in this area would be easy, so that's probably where they make all there money.

Sure it'll never be google as said above.. but as long as there's readers, it'll continue to exist.

You could argue yes anyone could set-up time to do a similar website, but Joe.ie has made such a name for itself lately and it must have some sort of money in order to Advertise at a UFC fight in Las Vegas

''Unfortunately, it's popular journalism'', I hate to tell yous lads but time moves on from the Guthenberg press and nailing notes to walls.

http://blog.paddypower.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/09/ShimmeringColossalCarpenterant.gif

I agree to an extent with what you're saying. I have Joe.ie on my feed. It doesn't annoy me. It's purely an observation of their content over the last 6 months, and the quality control has definitely taken a slide.

It's quite obvious the contributors have a brief for how many posts they should be executing a day, and the quality seems to be irrelevant.

Not singling out Joe. Plenty of websites are at it. I have a feed full of duplicated stories. I just don't see how it won't implode on itself.

neil_

I strongly dislike Joe.ie because of their grinding insistance on using the 1st person plural in every article ("we think this man licking his own testicles is great!!!!") and the generally trite nature of their content, but the rough concept of the site is sound. In fact I would say that mixing content from social media with "real news" is a pretty smart idea.

byrneg28

We go on boards.ie regularly and some of the content in the After Hours section is quite the same (and it's probably one of the more popular sections)

Just some examples:
Groom gets ill at wedding. Bride marries guest instead.
The Vladimir Putin appreciation thread.
The worst kid's name you've ever heard?
Ronaldo at water protest in Cavan!

I mean it's pure garbage
But there are alternatives. Like Law, Society, Current Events, Sport.

We all have our things that entertain us and we enjoy reading about. Just like I like geography, travel, current events, it doesn't mean I can't enjoy a few stupid light-hearted articles about a 1993 cheesey driving test advertisement.

thelad95

It's total clickbait and people are beginning to cotton on. A few years ago, the lad bible, WWN, sports bible, Joe.ie etc. used to post every few days or even once a week. Now it's just rubbish 'articles' every 15 minutes or so. Waterford whispers news used to have one article a day, now they have three or four and the quality has dropped. You can tell these articles are rushed out as well as there's often spelling and grammar mistakes.

AndonHandon

"THAT McGregor bandwagon rolling up to Vegas; the footage you won't have seen".

"Zlatan; the man, the myth, the legend".

Dravokivich

byrneg28 wrote: »

''Unfortunately, it's popular journalism'', I hate to tell yous lads but time moves on from the Guthenberg press and nailing notes to walls.

http://blog.paddypower.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/09/ShimmeringColossalCarpenterant.gif

I'm guessing that's a reference to what I said? I know business/work/skills/languages and such evolve over time and have no issue with that. You need to take it in context with the second half of the sentence. The quality and skill of writing their content is usually non-existent. The means of which a lot of articles are published are mind numbing as well, having to scroll through page after page, to read the next paragraph or go through the next position in a list.

In saying that, I'm clearly not their target audience and I've no problem with that in the slightest. But just because I've no interest in shíte doesn't mean I can't recognise and call it for what it is.

razorblunt

Had to unfollow on twitter, their recent offering was "Jamie Heaslip responds to Pape", they then showed Pape's tweet and Heaslip's response, nothing else. Now at least they weren't lieing!

SYLT

Joe.ie is absolute cancer. How the 'Journalists' operate there is disgraceful stuff.

-Rob content off different website
-Turn into clickbait article
-Plaster over Facebook

There is gonna be a bit of a revolt against all this carry on soon enough. YouTube content creators are getting sick of having their work illegally put on Facebook, they are missing out on big ad revenue whilst Facebook soaks it all up at their expense.

This video explains it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L6A1Lt0kvMA

JohnnyChimpo

Ush1 wrote: »

Worked for Google hasn't it?

i wonder if joe.ie will have a $23bn IPO like Google though...

walkingshadow

What I find crazy is how news sites effectively use tweets to generate an insignificant click-bait article. Take breakingnews.ie for example. A few weeks ago, one of the main 'stories' on their homepage was what Amy Hubermann wrote on twitter to Brian O'Driscoll on his birthday- "Happy birthday to my old, retired husband"- stop the presses.

awec

I have no problem with joe.ie

I fcuking despise LAD Bible / Sport Bible and all the rest of those ridiculous clickbait sites that always show up on my facebook feed. "Man buys sandwich, you will not believe what happened next!". "The most insane transfer story ever has just leaked from Spain! Do you believe this can happen?!"

Absolute gutter "journalism".

The_Valeyard

I like Joe.ie as a way to pass time to read whimsical stories. Not for it be taken seriously.

Bit like the journal.ie I will read the stories, but I wouldn't call it journalism or news.

Irishcrx

Ush1 wrote: »

Google weren't multi-billion when they started.

Nope they started their Irish operations in a little run down barn of an office that had ten people in it sitting at desks full of dust and barely standing up...

Now they have 4 buildings in grand canal dock and 6 in eastpoint business park...all state of the art...

Well that escalated quickly!

arayess

Aongus Von Bismarck wrote: »

My brother is always posting Joe.ie articles to his Facebook page. I visited it once. Full of moronic nonsense about being a 'bloke' and 'the footie'.

I'm glad to see your distain and sneer for everybody and everything non- michelin star has no boundary.

Minjor

awec wrote: »

I have no problem with joe.ie

I fcuking despise LAD Bible / Sport Bible and all the rest of those ridiculous clickbait sites that always show up on my facebook feed. "Man buys sandwich, you will not believe what happened next!". "The most insane transfer story ever has just leaked from Spain! Do you believe this can happen?!"

Absolute gutter "journalism".

You won't see them again if you block those pages.

A while back I noticed there were several Lebanese radio stations spreading viral images, and I'd see their posts at least five times a day without even liking the page.

Blocked Buzzfeed too the other day as it seemed their "articles" would appear on my newsfeed every time a friend liked one of them, which was very often.

everlast75

C*nts are dead to me since they revealed the Wrestlemania results as soon as they happened, before I got a chance to watch it the next day :mad::mad:

Ush1

JohnnyChimpo wrote: »

i wonder if joe.ie will have a $23bn IPO like Google though...

Who knows, they both don't do original content though!

The_Captain

The only thing worse than a dullard is a dullard who won't let a point go

lazybones32

Banjaxed82 wrote: »

What's the future for Joe.ie & the like? - Websites that essentially survive on other people's content. Is it really something that's sustainable going forward?

I notice (especially in the last few months) how these websites are posting and reposting the same stories a few times a day, obviously struggling with lack of content to justify the daily quote of posts they must put online via their various social media sources.

Content is king, and if you create your own (quality) content, you're on to a good one. What will become of these sites?

The Readers Digest exists by printing other magazines stories, etc. and it is still profitable.

I'd rather have someone filter out the inane and compile the interesting; it saves a lot of time. To trawl the web to find everything out yourself, is a job I'd rather leave to those who live on-line.

MonkeyTennis

They drive me up the wall. I look at newswhip for my news and its been taken over by dreadful nonsense from joe.ie / her.ie

It seems 'banter' between 2 z list celebs or rubgy players has become a story.

Banjaxed82

lazybones32 wrote: »

The Readers Digest exists by printing other magazines stories, etc. and it is still profitable.

I'd rather have someone filter out the inane and compile the interesting; it saves a lot of time. To trawl the web to find everything out yourself, is a job I'd rather leave to those who live on-line.

:eek::eek:

Have you read some of the stuff they put up on Joe?

CantGetNoSleep

The worst is LovinDublin, makes me want to punch the screen

WoollyRedHat

joe.ie, even the name is ****ing annoying.

MonkeyTennis

oh and Mummypages.ie

Ush1

Irishcrx wrote: »

Nope they started their Irish operations in a little run down barn of an office that had ten people in it sitting at desks full of dust and barely standing up...

Now they have 4 buildings in grand canal dock and 6 in eastpoint business park...all state of the art...

Well that escalated quickly!

Yep, an they were even late to the party. There was a bunch of well established search engines already at the time.

AnonoBoy

Ush1 wrote: »

Yep, an they were even late to the party. There was a bunch of well established search engines already at the time.

Altavista until I die baby!

The_Valeyard

AnonoBoy wrote: »

Altavista until I die baby!

Duckduckgo man myself.

AnonoBoy

The_Valeyard wrote: »

Duckduckgo man myself.

Let the search engine hipsterism begin!

Eoin

awec wrote: »

I fcuking despise LAD Bible / Sport Bible and all the rest of those ridiculous clickbait sites that always show up on my facebook feed. "Man buys sandwich, you will not believe what happened next!". "The most insane transfer story ever has just leaked from Spain! Do you believe this can happen?!"

You Forgot The Capitalisation Of Every Word In The Title!

lazybones32

Banjaxed82 wrote: »

:eek::eek:

Have you read some of the stuff they put up on Joe?

No. I just look at the women.

louiseber

Journalism is dead. Any student considering a career in this field should jump ship now. In the past, a professional journalist had a list of contacts he could rely on for sources and was probably acquainted with police officers, judges and politicians. He hit the street and conducted interviews and investigations.

These days, journalists are pimple-faced "new media" graduates who think that compiling a list of "top 10 cartoon shows that define your childhood" constitutes journalism. They lift articles from reputable news sites, like the NY Times, and sensationalise them into click-bait trash with the aim of generating as much advertising revenue as possible. The problem now is that the parasite is killing the hosts. Quality papers like the NY Times will eventually go out of business as the public refuse to pay for news, but then where will aggregator sites like thejournal rob their stories from?

robbiezero

Eoin wrote: »

You Forgot The Capitalisation Of Every Word In The Title!

Dont forget "X just won Twitter".