Beat this: Dublin Bus stop game

LeinsterDub

What's the closest stop you can find on the same route !
2 stops 136 Meters apart on McKee Road

Bonus points for a combo

My 3 stop 540m apart on Ballymun road is a poor effort though

LXFlyer

That's easy. The two stops on Upper Rathmines Road either side of Church Avenue on the 140.

The one closest to the City was installed to facilitate route 14a services operating via Palmerston Road some years ago but was never removed when that route alignment was withdrawn.

Stevek101

First few stops southbound on the 123 from Griffith Avenue are only a few metres apart. Also route 14/16 have two stops less than 150 metres apart on Beaumont Road.

cdebru

Drimnagh road stop 2099 and 2101, a massive 115 meters apart

ArmaniJeanss

Any thoughts on 'longest distance between 2 stops' lxflyer?

I nominate the 70 route to start with, from the stop at Blanchardstown village slip road to the next stop at Littlepace is 6.1K according to goggle maps.
Anything better on a standard route?

recyclops

7 route, johnstown church to the graduate, 3 stops distance of 397 metres to the 4th stop on the route its a total of

611 metres

if your on the 45a and same length of road its 5 stops in 880 metres of road

LXFlyer

ArmaniJeanss wrote: »

Any thoughts on 'longest distance between 2 stops' lxflyer?

I nominate the 70 route to start with, from the stop at Blanchardstown village slip road to the next stop at Littlepace is 6.1K according to goggle maps.
Anything better on a standard route?

The 65 South of Blessington.

LXFlyer

The distance between those two stops on Upper Rathmines Road is 70m btw - unbeatable I would suggest.

davetherave

The two southbound stops either side of Military Road in Rathmines are a mammoth 110 metres apart. The same buses serve both stops, it's not that any new routes join up, or that they split after the first stop. If you carry on southbound through Rathmines you have the one at Aldi giving you 3 stops in 280 metres, then the next one outside of the Swan Centre which is 4 stops in 500 metres.

BOHtox

The entire 150 route is just a disaster. On Whitehall Road West going towards Rossmore there is two in probably the space of 20-30 metres. Also 3 bus stops in Crumlin Village on the way in to town. It's just an awful route.

Stevek101

27a McAuley Park has two stops head to Bluden Drive. Always amazed at people requesting the second stop after the first one has been used.

L1011

I thought the just under 200m between two stops on the 67 in Maynooth was excessive...

There needs to a be an axe taken to stops, even if it involves replacing shelters etc at new stop sites created as a result.

MrMorooka

Obviously lxflyer wins, but the stops outside Kempton on the Navan Rd inbound are very close, looks like about 95m.

seamus

Distance between the first two stops on the 15 northbound is just over 100m. This is down to the old 74 route being replaced by the 15 and the terminus moved while the second stop remained in place.

bk

Route 123, stop 1493 and 1482, Griffith Avenue, 100 meters.

Properly measure the distance with Google Maps here:
http://www.maps.ie/distance-area-calculator.html

LeinsterDub

When you're cycling some strange thoughts do occur. Such as could the all Ireland puc fada champion go around a db route with less lifts than stops.

Pete_Cavan

4 stops on Dorset Street in 450m (from the Big Tree to the last stop before North Fredrick Street) is worthy of a mention.

n97 mini

3955 and 3956 are 140m apart according to Google. 66/a/b on the approach from Dublin into Leixlip.

Bray Head

I once mailed DB asking them why there are so many stops in Dublin. I have never seen it in any other city.

I got the following reply. Apparently it's nothing to do with them at all!

The location of bus stops are determined by the local authority and An Garda Síochána and must meet a range of safety criteria so in many cases there may not be a uniform distance between stops. The number of stops is to ensure greater ease of access to customers who may not be able to cover long distances by foot.

Can anyone shed any light as to whether this is true? Does the NTA have any role now?

LeinsterDub

The number of stops is to ensure greater ease of access to customers who may not be able to cover long distances by foot

Fine so paint half the stops red and call them off peak stops. Between 7 and 10 and 4 and 7 these stops won't be serviced let those of those who have work to get to do so in a timely fashion. The auld dears who fancy popping into town for a look around can wait till 10

Greenmachine

bk wrote: »

Route 123, stop 1493 and 1482, Griffith Avenue, 100 meters.

Properly measure the distance with Google Maps here:
http://www.maps.ie/distance-area-calculator.html

Croydon garden is stupid close to stop 1482 too.

Losty Dublin

lxflyer wrote: »

The 65 South of Blessington.

While Church Avenue in Rathmines has the shortest, I have a probable winner for the longest and a runner up for the shortest distance between stops. Bizarrely enough, they are the next stops to each other as well.

Two stops on the Holywell Distributor Road, namely 6310 and 6311 are a mere 110 metres from each other. Get on a 142 here and your next stop leaves you at the 3Arena via the M1 and Port Tunnel, a spin of 13.3KM without a stop in sight.

Ben D Bus

Stop 1946 (Bulfin Road) to stop 1947 (Camac Close) on Emmet Road Inchicore, according to my rough measurement on Google maps is 120m

KD345

Bray Head wrote: »

I once mailed DB asking them why there are so many stops in Dublin. I have never seen it in any other city.

I got the following reply. Apparently it's nothing to do with them at all!


Can anyone shed any light as to whether this is true? Does the NTA have any role now?

The responsibility of bus stop locations transferred to the NTA last year.

hfallada

The bus stop beside the black church for the 4, 9, and 13 is pretty close to one at broadstone

etchyed

LeinsterDub wrote: »

136 Meters

cdebru wrote: »

115 meters

bk wrote: »

100 meters

Did I miss the memo about Ireland having adopted American spelling?

fleet_admiral

Two stops on Harolds Cross road citybound at the Terenure end are literally a stones throw from each other imo. The first just after the NCBI shop and the next at the Berlin Wall

Aard

etchyed wrote: »

Did I miss the memo about Ireland having adopted American spelling?

Just be thankful we don't use feet and inches!

dfx-

lxflyer wrote: »

The distance between those two stops on Upper Rathmines Road is 70m btw - unbeatable I would suggest.

First two stops on the 123 including the terminus northbound is 49m on Google Maps (Stops 6057 and 2183)

mikemac1

Two by the park in Lower Ballyfermot are 140 metres apart. The 40 does this route

cdebru

etchyed wrote: »

Did I miss the memo about Ireland having adopted American spelling?

Indeed you must have missed it, both spellings are used in Ireland interchangeably, including in legislation and statutory instruments, so you can use either in this country, but well done on your contribution.

Dravokivich

lxflyer wrote: »

The distance between those two stops on Upper Rathmines Road is 70m btw - unbeatable I would suggest.

Woodford Hill for the 13 going down it? Also thought they were fairly close.


There was also another pair of stops fairly close to each other in Clondalkin Village as well. But probably not as close as that. Although it is a bit mad when you can see one bus stop, from another.

Greenmachine

dfx- wrote: »

First two stops on the 123 including the terminus northbound is 49m on Google Maps (Stops 6057 and 2183)

How are you measuring the distance between bus stop using google maps. Is each stop a recorded location on the maps.

LeinsterDub

Greenmachine wrote: »

How are you measuring the distance between bus stop using google maps. Is each stop a recorded location on the maps.

They are

cdebru

Greenmachine wrote: »

How are you measuring the distance between bus stop using google maps. Is each stop a recorded location on the maps.

No we all chipped in and bought a long measuring tape ;-)

seamus

LeinsterDub wrote: »

Fine so paint half the stops red and call them off peak stops. Between 7 and 10 and 4 and 7 these stops won't be serviced let those of those who have work to get to do so in a timely fashion. The auld dears who fancy popping into town for a look around can wait till 10

Actually I'd suggest exactly the opposite strategy and have more stops during peak times.

This would ensure that the bus is emptied at more regular intervals and reduces the number of long queues at bus stops. I would hazard a guess that the time to empty 5 people from the bus at 3 different stop is less than the time to empty the bus of 15 people at one stop. Especially at peak times where you have to try and squeeze past and make room and so forth.

If you make getting the bus in the morning more difficult for people, they won't do it. The difference between someone choosing to use a bus and choosing to drive could be whether or not the walk to the bus stop is five minutes or ten minutes. Eliminate some stops at peak times, people's walk increases and they will choose the car over the bus.

frankoreagan

208 meters between stops 2116 and 2117 on the Ninth Lock Road in Clondalkin on the 76. I curse people getting on at the latter stop in the morning, because it inevitably means being held up at the lights for another sequence, and takes ages for someone to let the bus back out into traffic too.

MrMorooka

seamus wrote: »

This would ensure that the bus is emptied at more regular intervals

But that's not really what happens- most routes are essentially just constantly picking up from the suburbs until 75% through the route, when they start discharging people across the city centre. In that case, reducing stops is exactly what is needed, concentrate the pickups into less stops(and improve dwell times through better ticketing) so the bus can get a longer run without having to slow down and stop.

Spanish Eyes

3 stops on Conyngham Road. Middle one totally unnecessary IMV.

1st to middle 300m not too bad. Middle to last 170m.

LeinsterDub

seamus wrote: »

I would hazard a guess that the time to empty 5 people from the bus at 3 different stop is less than the time to empty the bus of 15 people at one stop.

Whisper it quietly middle doors

LeinsterDub

seamus wrote: »

Eliminate some stops at peak times, people's walk increases and they will choose the car over the bus.

We are talking about eliminating the stops on top of each other adding maybe 1 or 2 minutes added to their walk which could save 15 minutes on the bus journey time

Spanish Eyes

LeinsterDub wrote: »

We are talking about eliminating the stops on top of each other adding maybe 1 or 2 minutes added to their walk which could save 15 minutes on the bus journey time

That would be too sensible! It would help everyone, the driver, the passengers and so on.

Scratches head, yeah, far too sensible indeed.

the_barfly1

Whitworth Road. According to google its 880m long.
There are FOUR bus stops on that stretch, with just 700m between the first and fourth.

Its the little things that piss me off on my way to work.

Polar101

Clonsilla village, on the 39 route - stops 1897 and 6088 are 83 metres apart. Also on the outbound direction, 1887 and 1888 are 120 metres apart.

But if they don't have to be consecutive stops, then stops 4324 and 4768 in Littlepace are only 23 metres apart (routes 270 and 70, bus comes back along the same road).

etchyed

cdebru wrote: »

Indeed you must have missed it, both spellings are used in Ireland interchangeably, including in legislation and statutory instruments, so you can use either in this country, but well done on your contribution.

I'd love to see an example. Less of the sarcasm please.

cdebru

etchyed wrote: »

I'd love to see an example. Less of the sarcasm please.

http://www.irishstatutebook.ie/1992/en/si/0018.html
B. Measures
(1) Linear Measures

10 meter and over

10.00
1 meter to under 10 meters

4.00
Under 1 meter

2.00

http://www.irishstatutebook.ie/2003/en/si/0370.html


1. A main service building containing 3 internal tracks, enclosing an area 23 meters wide by 198 meters long and accommodating heavy maintenance (1 track) with train lifting and crane facilities and light maintenance (2 tracks on pedestals in servicing pit) facilitating inspection and servicing functions.

2. A workshop and support area of 54 metres by 6 metres housing delivery area, stores, specialist work and test areas, attached as a single storey block to the north of the main service building.


Here is an example where both spellings are used in the same instrument.


And a little precious to complain about sarcasm when you posted did I not get the memo, dont you think ???


PS I also use the metre spelling but the phone auto corrects it to meter, I left it that way because I didn't think anyone would be pedantic enough to care, I was wrong.

etchyed

cdebru wrote: »

And a little precious to complain about sarcasm when you posted did I not get the memo, dont you think ???


PS I also use the metre spelling but the phone auto corrects it to meter, I left it that way because I didn't think anyone would be pedantic enough to care, I was wrong.

Thanks for the examples. A bit hypocritical of me, yes. I hate American spellings. I don't lose sleep over it, but it's caused me to be a dick on an internet forum. Someone will always be pedantic enough to care.

Kopparberg Strawberry and Lime

Kylemore road , Ballyfermot, Dublin

3 bus stops,

between first two is 160M .

between the last two is 120M.

served by the 79/A and 18. Not needed.

Aard

Not that anybody has the time or inclination, but it would be interesting to see what the average stop distance is by DB route. And then compare it to pax per route to see who's wasting most time start-stopping.

cdebru

LeinsterDub wrote: »

Whisper it quietly middle doors

Maybe less stops, but properly designed ones, that give enough space to get in, get straight, and get out, and then maybe stop people parking in them, crazy radical stuff I know..

V_Moth

Two more short stops:

-Kilcoole Sea Road (84/84X): 88m - https://goo.gl/maps/lhlbY

-Shanganagh Bridge (45A): 170m - https://www.google.ie/maps/place/Ballybrack,+Co.+Dublin/@53.2430369,-6.1211371,225m/data=!3m1!1e3!4m2!3m1!1s0x486707ef432a0841:0x744d3d38ac1e55ec

The Shanganagh Bridge stop is not suitable at all for a bus stop really, being on a narrow road with a bad camber, as well as a very narrow footpath.