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Evil terrorists burn 13 year old child alive

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,291 ✭✭✭✭Gatling


    Zebra3 wrote: »
    https://firstlook.org/theintercept/2015/02/10/u-s-media-13-year-old-yemeni-boy-killed-u-s-drone/

    Looks like the media are totally ignoring
    the horrendous murder of this poor child.

    His father and brother were murdered in the same way by the same evil bastards.

    Bad guys get nuked

    In the words of Justin timberlake

    "Cry me a river"


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,944 ✭✭✭fedor.2.


    Gatling wrote: »
    Bad guys get nuked

    In the words of Justin timberlake

    "Cry me a river"


    Harsh


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 546 ✭✭✭jimboblep


    Well that seems like a very balanced article from an unbiased source
    just one point the hellfire missile is an explosive not an incendiary missile so saying he burned to death is factually wrong.
    and if they got that wrong what else is wrong in the article


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,810 ✭✭✭DeadHand


    There is a critical difference between people being killed accidentally as collateral damage in a strike on combatants and people being deliberately tortured to death and their final moments broadcast around the world as propaganda.


    While we're on the subject of the media ignoring certain issues, why is the organised, mass rape and torture of indigenous children by Muslim men in England being ignored by the mainstream media?


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 5,575 ✭✭✭AlanS181824


    That article is totally the opposite of being one sided.... Yeah no.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,763 ✭✭✭✭kneemos


    Blown to bits,burned,crippled,what happens when bombs are dropped.
    Hardly a revelation .


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,011 ✭✭✭Tugboats


    Zebra3 wrote: »
    https://firstlook.org/theintercept/2015/02/10/u-s-media-13-year-old-yemeni-boy-killed-u-s-drone/

    Looks like the media are totally ignoring the horrendous murder of this poor child.

    His father and brother were murdered in the same way by the same evil bastards.

    Did you provide the wrong link I cant see the child burning alive?:confused:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 723 ✭✭✭Luke92


    Going by some of his other posts it sounds like he wrote the article. Sure Isis are only being terrorists because of the Americans. Its all the Americans fault!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 592 ✭✭✭JC01


    Zebra3 wrote: »
    https://firstlook.org/theintercept/2015/02/10/u-s-media-13-year-old-yemeni-boy-killed-u-s-drone/

    Looks like the media are totally ignoring the horrendous murder of this poor child.

    His father and brother were murdered in the same way by the same evil bastards.

    You throw the term murder around an awful lot. I seriously struggle to beleive the U.S. randomly blows up "innocent farmers" for the crac. Twould be a very expensive pass time. War is a dirty violent nasty thing, be thankful some other country is waging it so you can sit at home in comfort and scream about how evil they are.

    I'm far from a fan of Americas foreign policy but I hate this hipster anti-USA crap from people who are often incredibly ignorant of the facts of the situation.


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 11,576 Mod ✭✭✭✭Hermy


    DeadHand wrote: »
    There is a critical difference between people being killed accidentally as collateral damage in a strike on combatants and people being deliberately tortured to death and their final moments broadcast around the world as propaganda.

    One difference is that some people are more tolerant of the term collateral damage than others. Perhaps if that collateral damage was broadcast around the world some people might think differently about it.

    Genealogy Forum Mod



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  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 16,881 Mod ✭✭✭✭Manic Moran


    Yemen is particularly well known for the use of child soldiers. Age may not be massively relevant, but even in the event that he was in the wrong place at the wrong time, the question then becomes 'why was the weapon fired in the first place?'


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 11,576 Mod ✭✭✭✭Hermy


    ...the question then becomes 'why was the weapon fired in the first place?'

    An American solution to an American problem?

    Genealogy Forum Mod



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,084 ✭✭✭✭Zebra3


    JC01 wrote: »
    You throw the term murder around an awful lot. I seriously struggle to beleive the U.S. randomly blows up "innocent farmers" for the crac. Twould be a very expensive pass time. War is a dirty violent nasty thing, be thankful some other country is waging it so you can sit at home in comfort and scream about how evil they are.

    I'm far from a fan of Americas foreign policy but I hate this hipster anti-USA crap from people who are often incredibly ignorant of the facts of the situation.

    The U.S. attacks in Yemen are war crimes. If you're happy enough to turn a blind eye to things like that.....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,084 ✭✭✭✭Zebra3


    Yemen is particularly well known for the use of child soldiers. Age may not be massively relevant, but even in the event that he was in the wrong place at the wrong time, the question then becomes 'why was the weapon fired in the first place?'

    No, the question is why isn't the U.S. being investigated for violating international law.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,011 ✭✭✭Tugboats


    Zebra3 wrote: »
    The U.S. attacks in Yemen are war crimes. If you're happy enough to turn a blind eye to things like that.....
    Zebra3 wrote: »
    No, the question is why isn't the U.S. being investigated for violating international law.

    Any chance of getting that link to the child being killed by evil terrorists?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,028 ✭✭✭Venus In Furs


    Gatling wrote: »
    Bad guys get nuked

    In the words of Justin timberlake

    "Cry me a river"
    So bad-ass.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,080 ✭✭✭ireland.man


    DeadHand wrote: »
    There is a critical difference between people being killed accidentally as collateral damage in a strike on combatants and people being deliberately tortured to death and their final moments broadcast around the world as propaganda.


    While we're on the subject of the media ignoring certain issues, why is the organised, mass rape and torture of indigenous children by Muslim men in England being ignored by the mainstream media?

    Check up the use of intentional 'double tap' attacks by the US military against paramedics in Afghanistan and elsewhere.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,919 ✭✭✭✭Gummy Panda


    I'd be more worried about these drones becoming self aware


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,798 ✭✭✭goose2005


    DeadHand wrote: »
    There is a critical difference between people being killed accidentally as collateral damage in a strike on combatants and people being deliberately tortured to death and their final moments broadcast around the world as propaganda.
    Is there such a difference for the victim? Moreover, by those standards all the 9-11 dead were just collateral damage.
    Yemen is particularly well known for the use of child soldiers. Age may not be massively relevant, but even in the event that he was in the wrong place at the wrong time, the question then becomes 'why was the weapon fired in the first place?'

    It's common whenever children or civilians are killed to claim that they were spies or secretly soldiers. No evidence. Why was the weapon fired? When all you have is a hammer...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,798 ✭✭✭goose2005


    JC01 wrote: »
    You throw the term murder around an awful lot. I seriously struggle to beleive the U.S. randomly blows up "innocent farmers" for the crac. Twould be a very expensive pass time. War is a dirty violent nasty thing, be thankful some other country is waging it so you can sit at home in comfort and scream about how evil they are.

    I'm far from a fan of Americas foreign policy but I hate this hipster anti-USA crap from people who are often incredibly ignorant of the facts of the situation.
    I hate this hipster pro-USA crap. How on earth does the endless US/UK wars make the world, or me, safer? When (not if) an Irish Muslim blows up a bus it will be because of these constant wars.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,020 ✭✭✭BlaasForRafa


    When the western allies invaded france in 1944 the SS Hitler-Youth division occupied parts of the city of Caen. In the battle to drive them from the city 2000 french civilians were killed in allied air raids. Should the allies have abstained from attacking the Waffen SS with air power due to the risk to civilians?


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 12,333 ✭✭✭✭JONJO THE MISER


    These left wing idiots really annoy me, without America they could be living under the rule of some savages, we would see would they be getting there skinny lates then.
    If anything the U.S are not carrying out enough drone attacks.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,020 ✭✭✭BlaasForRafa


    goose2005 wrote: »
    Is there such a difference for the victim? Moreover, by those standards all the 9-11 dead were just collateral damage.

    You obviously don't understand what the term collateral damage means.
    goose2005 wrote: »
    It's common whenever children or civilians are killed to claim that they were spies or secretly soldiers. No evidence. Why was the weapon fired? When all you have is a hammer...

    Whenever guerillas/terrorists are killed it's common for their relatives/neighbours/fellow-travellers to claim that they were civilians/just-mind-their-own-business.
    goose2005 wrote: »
    I hate this hipster pro-USA crap. How on earth does the endless US/UK wars make the world, or me, safer? When (not if) an Irish Muslim blows up a bus it will be because of these constant wars.

    Lol, that's the first time I've ever heard the term hipster in this context. If anything the hipster stance would surely be the anti-american types that seem to frequent AH and put forth innumerable nonsensical rants.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,432 ✭✭✭Patser


    Take a look at this OP

    http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-31425384

    Just a general news piece about Obama saying ISIS will lose. But look at the picture of the ISIS APC near the top of the piece. It's an armoured vehicle, flying the ISIS flag with Armed men on board. It's a perfectly legitimate target for an air strike. Now zoom in on the person beside the man in the turret. It's a young child. Out for a spin, in a tank operated by a terrorist organusation in a war zone.

    There's collateral damage. A drone or bomber only sees a tank with armed men.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38,244 ✭✭✭✭Guy:Incognito


    I never get the outrage about drones tbh. The way people go on about them like theyre the worst thing in the world. Its ok to kill someone with a bomb as long as the bomb was flown there in a plane with a pilot.


    if you had a job that was dangerous and had the option of doing it by remote control I'd imagine quite a high percentage of people would be happy with that.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 592 ✭✭✭JC01


    Zebra3 wrote: »
    The U.S. attacks in Yemen are war crimes. If you're happy enough to turn a blind eye to things like that.....

    What's the end of that sentance? I'm quite happy to see America blow extremists back to the Stone Age no matter what country they are hiding in. I'm just not naive enough to think this can be done without innocents dying in the process.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 592 ✭✭✭JC01


    goose2005 wrote: »
    I hate this hipster pro-USA crap. How on earth does the endless US/UK wars make the world, or me, safer? When (not if) an Irish Muslim blows up a bus it will be because of these constant wars.

    Will it not be because an Irish Muslim has decided to blow up a bus?

    And beleive me I'm far from pro-USA.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,028 ✭✭✭Venus In Furs


    These left wing idiots really annoy me, without America they could be living under the rule of some savages, we would see would they be getting there skinny lates then.
    If anything the U.S are not carrying out enough drone attacks.
    Which left wing idiots? Which savages? Why not enough drone attacks? The above post just seems pieced together with various meaningless soundbites.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,174 ✭✭✭✭Captain Chaos


    I never get the outrage about drones tbh. The way people go on about them like theyre the worst thing in the world. Its ok to kill someone with a bomb as long as the bomb was flown there in a plane with a pilot.


    if you had a job that was dangerous and had the option of doing it by remote control I'd imagine quite a high percentage of people would be happy with that.

    I don't get it either with drones. They are piloted my remote so what, there is still a man/woman in the loop for targeting and weapon release.

    The US have been using TV guided smart bombs since the 60s where the guy in the back seat of the jet steers the bomb via remote as its falling with a datalink display of the bomb's point of view right until impact.

    What about Tomahawk missiles, they fly 100s of miles pre programmed with a route to fly and where the target it's intended to hit roughly is and what it looks like. The missile's autopilot does the rest, that is smarter than any ucav drone.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,798 ✭✭✭goose2005


    You obviously don't understand what the term collateral damage means.
    Al-Qaeda targeted the economic, political and military headquarters of the US. A few thousand civilian deaths. Exactly what happened when Baghdad was attacked.


    Whenever guerillas/terrorists are killed it's common for their relatives/neighbours/fellow-travellers to claim that they were civilians/just-mind-their-own-business.
    Yep, but that's also what happens when innocent people are killed.


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