65% polled are against compulsory water fluoridation

Bridgeofsighs

From the journal.ie

COUNCILLORS IN GALWAY have become the latest to call for an end to water fluoridation.
Representatives in Dublin and Cork have also made similar calls with campaigners saying councils for some two million people now want the policy scrapped.
Those in favour of the policy, like dentists at the Royal College of Surgeons, say that fluoridation protects against tooth decay.
But what do you think?
Today’s poll, Are you in favour of water fluoridation?

Poll Results: No = 65%, Yes = 27%, Don't Know = 7%

We need a referendum on this. Forced medication via the water supply is unconstitutional.

Dozen Wicked Words

Can't find the poll on the Journal, how many people were sampled? What councillors in Galway and which representatives in Dublin and Cork are calling for it to end?


Story, if quoted accurately tells me little to nothing. Personally I have no problem with fluoride in my water.

dudara

For me, the scientific evidence against flouridation hasn't formed a comprehensive case yet. Listening to populist soapboxers and cause-seeking politicians doesn't yet overrule science and medicine for me.

If there is substantive, peer-reviewed evidence to support this belief, then of course, it should be reviewed.

ch750536

So if something is 'scientifically proven' then it is forced on people?

Explain the current sugary, fatty foods. Explain the over medication. Explain the alchohol.

Whether something is deemed good for you or not is irrelevant. Choice should still be offered.

Atlantic Dawn

We need a comparison if someone brushed their teeth twice a day what improvement is there by having flouride added to the water. Comparing the improvement for someone who doesn't brush their teeth at all is non nonsensical.

Aka Ishur

Atlantic Dawn wrote: »

We need a comparison if someone brushed their teeth twice a day what improvement is there by having flouride added to the water. Comparing the improvement for someone who doesn't brush their teeth at all is non nonsensical.

The people that are not brushing their teeth at all are the ones being targetted by fluoridation. They are the ones suffering when fluoridation stops. They are the ones that cost the state much more money through dental treatments than fluoridation costs.

Using people who brush their teeth in such comparisons would be nonsensical.

Atlantic Dawn

Aka Ishur wrote: »

The people that are not brushing their teeth at all are the ones being targetted by fluoridation. They are the ones suffering when fluoridation stops. They are the ones that cost the state much more money through dental treatments than fluoridation costs.

Using people who brush their teeth in such comparisons would be nonsensical.

Would it not be better if St Vincent De Paul gave out toothpaste to the poor? The majority of people brush their teeth, crazy if the comparison is not on the majority of people.

Aka Ishur

Atlantic Dawn wrote: »

Would it not be better if St Vincent De Paul gave out toothpaste to the poor? The majority of people brush their teeth, crazy if the comparison is not on the majority of people.

Bottom line is you cant force the poor to use them, and education in this area seems to fall short, so as long as fluoridation is the cheaper option that's what will happen. The trouble is it's the children in these disadvantaged situations that suffer most when fluoridation stops. Giving them toothbrushes and letting them have at it simply wont cut it.

ch750536

In essence, those of us who do brush daily should use flouride free toothpaste

Robbo

Bridgeofsighs wrote: »

From the journal.ie

COUNCILLORS IN GALWAY have become the latest to call for an end to water fluoridation.
Representatives in Dublin and Cork have also made similar calls with campaigners saying councils for some two million people now want the policy scrapped.
Those in favour of the policy, like dentists at the Royal College of Surgeons, say that fluoridation protects against tooth decay.
But what do you think?
Today’s poll, Are you in favour of water fluoridation?

Poll Results: No = 65%, Yes = 27%, Don't Know = 7%

We need a referendum on this. Forced medication via the water supply is unconstitutional.

It isn't and never has been. I suggest you read judgment in Ryan -v- Attorney General (1965). It's available with a quick Google, which I believe these days counts as "serious research".

Timberrrrrrrr

ch750536 wrote: »

So if something is 'scientifically proven' then it is forced on people?

Explain the current sugary, fatty foods. Explain the over medication. Explain the alchohol.

Whether something is deemed good for you or not is irrelevant. Choice should still be offered.

It is offered, No one forces you to drink tap water.

ch750536

Timberrrrrrrr wrote: »

It is offered, No one forces you to drink tap water.

Like saying you have the choice to live or die, as long as you do what I tell you.
:rolleyes:

papu

Timberrrrrrrr wrote: »

It is offered, No one forces you to drink tap water.

No one forces them to be connected to the public water supply.
If you don't like the fluoridation, for whatever crazy pseudo scientific reason.. (I really like the mind control one). Filter your water, Drill your own well, or drink your own piss.

The dental system in Ireland is already stretched so thin , having more people need cavities filled would be a disaster.

There's no scientific evidence that the levels of fluoridation are anything but beneficial for dental health. If you want to refute this , Pubmed links please , no agenda driven websites.

Timberrrrrrrr

ch750536 wrote: »

Like saying you have the choice to live or die, as long as you do what I tell you.
:rolleyes:

Are you saying there is no alternative to tap.water?

Alf Veedersane

Not sure if everyone gets the same ads in the phone but one for dental implants appears under papu's post above on mine.

Probably the government planting subliminal messages about the options without fluoridation...

ch750536

Tomorrow the govt announces something that helps people who abuse their liver through excessive drinking. It needs to be added to the air we breathe. They publish their scientific proof.

This weekend they start spraying.

You happy?

ch750536

Timberrrrrrrr wrote: »

Are you saying there is no alternative to tap.water?

I'm saying there is no alternative tap water.

seamus

Journal poll. You might as well print a large poster with "No" on it and ask monkeys to fling poo at it.

Oryx

Youve already brought this topic up in other forums, and you seem to have seagulled it in here when your other avenues of discussion were closed. This is not about nutrition but a political agenda, it seems. Im closing it, if you want it reopened I will discuss it via pm.