Why do some Irish people hate the English?

ThinkAboutIt

I think this is great, we can't defend ourselves and they are kind enough to do so:

Russian Tu-95 'Bear' bomber planes flew past the west coast of Ireland and into the English Channel before turning and going back the same way.

It was reported that the heavily armed aircraft were flying without their transponders – meaning they were invisible to commercial airlines.

Britain scrambled its fighter jets in response - as Ireland is considered to be within its 'area of interest' for defence.

Link: http://www.independent.ie/irish-news/russian-nuclear-bomber-planes-fly-off-west-coast-of-ireland-as-british-typhoon-fighters-scrambled-30949988.html

Hating the Brits seems to be something which only the working class do so maybe it's just a chip on their shoulder.

Philo Beddoe

ThinkAboutIt wrote: »

I think this is great, we can't defend ourselves and they are kind enough to do so:

Russian Tu-95 'Bear' bomber planes flew past the west coast of Ireland and into the English Channel before turning and going back the same way.

It was reported that the heavily armed aircraft were flying without their transponders – meaning they were invisible to commercial airlines.

Britain scrambled its fighter jets in response - as Ireland is considered to be within its 'area of interest' for defence.

Link: http://www.independent.ie/irish-news/russian-nuclear-bomber-planes-fly-off-west-coast-of-ireland-as-british-typhoon-fighters-scrambled-30949988.html

Hating the Brits seems to be something which only the working class do so maybe it's just a chip on their shoulder.

While I find the idea of hating the Brits in this day and age to be fairly ridiculous, the idea of being grateful to them for defending us against the Russians is no less so.

slangamerican

I hate them cos they took away our UTV, now stuck with that UTV Ireland rubbish

K4t

ThinkAboutIt wrote: »

Hating the Brits seems to be something which only the working class do so maybe it's just a chip on their shoulder.

The working class hate the British as much as you hate the working class.

uch

Is there anything to be said for another Mass ?

Arsemageddon

Dunno OP, maybe it's something to do with the whole invading and occupying Ireland thing.

Maybe you could ask an ill-mannered working class oik some time and question him on the matter, that is if you can understand the animalistic, feral grunting that they use to communicate.

catbear

Are we talking about the working class that don't work?

mikom

ThinkAboutIt wrote: »

Hating the Brits seems to be something which only the working class do so maybe it's just a chip on their shoulder.

The working class always preferred the MOBO's over the Brits.
R n B, rap etc are more their bag.

Turtyturd

OP has reading skills the underclass would sneer at.

Capt'n Midnight

They "won" the world cup back in 1966 and they're still going on about it

Crimsonforce

probably the murder, rape and pillage not so long ago.

Arsemageddon

OSI wrote: »

I wonder do the Scots still hold a grudge for the ancient Irish invading. Or the English hate the Italians for the Roman invasions. etc etc

I'd say that the whole Northern Ireland sitt-ee-a-shun probably has something to do with it.

The events you note happened over 1200 & 1600 years ago respectively. Time is a great healer.

suicide_circus

800 years

The_Valeyard

We need to charge the Russians air tax.

Harry Palmr

Arsemageddon wrote: »

I'd say that the whole Northern Ireland sitt-ee-a-shun probably has something to do with it.

The events you note happened over 1200 & 1600 years ago respectively. Time is a great healer.

suicide_circus wrote: »

800 years

I wouldn't hold my breath!

anncoates

Crimsonforce wrote: »

probably the murder, rape and pillage not so long ago.

The Danes are alright, to be fair.

Jawgap

ThinkAboutIt wrote: »

I think this is great, we can't defend ourselves and they are kind enough to do so:

Russian Tu-95 'Bear' bomber planes flew past the west coast of Ireland and into the English Channel before turning and going back the same way.

It was reported that the heavily armed aircraft were flying without their transponders – meaning they were invisible to commercial airlines.

Britain scrambled its fighter jets in response - as Ireland is considered to be within its 'area of interest' for defence.

Link: http://www.independent.ie/irish-news/russian-nuclear-bomber-planes-fly-off-west-coast-of-ireland-as-british-typhoon-fighters-scrambled-30949988.html

Hating the Brits seems to be something which only the working class do so maybe it's just a chip on their shoulder.

I'll tell you what I hate - more shoight reporting from the d'Indo!

Plus, it's good to hate the English, it makes winning the rugby, football or whatever all the more sweeter!

DEFTLEFTHAND

What are those pesky Russians up to I wonder?

Jawgap

DEFTLEFTHAND wrote: »

What are those pesky Russians up to I wonder?

Expressing their displeasure at the Litvinenko inquiry.......

......that or they were looking for the Duty Free at Shannon.

The_Valeyard

DEFTLEFTHAND wrote: »

What are those pesky Russians up to I wonder?

The same thing they do every night.....


TRY TO TAKE OVER THE WORLD!!!!

wexandproud

catbear wrote: »

Are we talking about the working class that don't work?

they dont have time to hate the english at the moment, too busy hating the water charges and the president

porsche959

K4t wrote: »

The working class hate the British as much as you hate the working class.

I would also venture that the working class British hate the British establishment more than do most Irish people.

porsche959

ThinkAboutIt wrote: »

I think this is great, we can't defend ourselves and they are kind enough to do so:

Russian Tu-95 'Bear' bomber planes flew past the west coast of Ireland and into the English Channel before turning and going back the same way.

It was reported that the heavily armed aircraft were flying without their transponders – meaning they were invisible to commercial airlines.

Britain scrambled its fighter jets in response - as Ireland is considered to be within its 'area of interest' for defence.

Link: http://www.independent.ie/irish-news/russian-nuclear-bomber-planes-fly-off-west-coast-of-ireland-as-british-typhoon-fighters-scrambled-30949988.html

Hating the Brits seems to be something which only the working class do so maybe it's just a chip on their shoulder.

You might want to check out the geo-political/defense meaning of the phrase 'area of interest'.

Son Of A Vidic

catbear wrote: »

Are we talking about the working class that don't work?

No need to bring the Bankers into it.

Karl Stein

suicide_circus wrote: »

800 years

of English mustard. :mad:

AnonoBoy

I dunno. Is it because of Celebrity Big Brother?

Mr_Muffin

Irish people just hate everyone anyway especially other Irish people.

Mesrine65

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plantations_of_Ireland

Might have a lot to do with this?

jamesmcgranex

I think we need to move beyond bearing grudges for the actions of older generations, personally.

cml387

How do the actions of a Russian aircraft lead on to a discussion about Brit bashing? Genuinely curious.

Mesrine65

^ read the thread title

Nodin

cml387 wrote: »

How do the actions of a Russian aircraft lead on to a discussion about Brit bashing? Genuinely curious.

People are always coming up with new ways to get a dig in at their favourite target (in this case the working class). I understand the IDA are trying to harness this native ingenuity and use it in the software industry.

ShagNastii

Capt'n Midnight wrote: »

They "won" the world cup back in 1966 and they're still going on about it

I always laugh at this point. Ya'd swear if Ireland won the World Cup it wouldn't be mentioned two years later.

caustic 1

DEFTLEFTHAND wrote: »

What are those pesky Russians up to I wonder?

They got a lot closer to us today then flew over Donegal with those pesky brits escorting with three typhoons.

The Backwards Man

caustic 1 wrote: »

They got a lot closer to us today then flew over Donegal with those pesky brits escorting with three typhoons.

Those were commercial jets, some eejit that hadn't seen blue sky in a while jumped to conclusions.

caustic 1

The Backwards Man wrote: »

Those were commercial jets.

Being escorted?

The Backwards Man

caustic 1 wrote: »

Being escorted?

Na, they were just passenger jets, nobody was escorting anybody, they were far away.

caustic 1

The Backwards Man wrote: »

Na, they were just passenger jets, nobody was escorting anybody, they were far away.

The one I seen was a large jet being escorted on either side by much smaller planes and one behind.

donaloluanaigh

The issue of the North still has to be addressed, IMO

Baggy Trousers

I like England and I like English people. I think they have a lot of reasons to be proud.

c_man

ThinkAboutIt wrote: »

I think this is great, we can't defend ourselves

Great let's spend billions on a squadron of new fighter jets. We'll have to train up lads to pilot them/maintain them, keep buying parts and arms for the next twenty years for them. I'm sure our NATO friends will be only two glad to introduce us to their arms manufacturer friends. Then when the Russians do decide to attack, they'll just lob a few missiles our direction and keep the bombers free from hassle.

We can't defend ourselves against Russian nuclear bombers. Nor can we defend ourselves against a nuclear missile. It's absolute insanity to think that we should waste that money. There are far better things for us to be investing in now. Not indulging in fantasy land.

Berserker

Capt'n Midnight wrote: »

They "won" the world cup back in 1966 and they're still going on about it

England actually won it. The RoI managed to win a game or two and they still go on and on about it. The RoI's greatest manager played that day, fyi! As for Irish people hating the English, I find it amusing. Hearing some 'salt of the earth' Dub go on about 'da Brits' always makes me chuckle.

I spend a lot of time in England and I think it is a fabulous country and the people are tops!

Arsemageddon

Berserker wrote: »

England actually won it. The RoI managed to win a game or two and they still go on and on about it. The RoI's greatest manager played that day, fyi! As for Irish people hating the English, I find it amusing. Hearing some 'salt of the earth' Dub go on about 'da Brits' always makes me chuckle.

What a stunningly original insight!

Mesrine65

Berserker wrote: »

I spend a lot of time in England and I think it is a fabulous country and the people are tops!

Their fine ales are excellent too.

ressem

Don't think that it's hatred.

It seems to be resentment that's easy to create in people and forms half of AH threads.
Whether it's a Joe Duffy / Irish Independent complaint about the public sector, government, EU, ryanair ; travellers feeling disrespected by non-travellers and vice versa; or a biased retelling in a dodgy school history book.

Most of us don't hate politicians, but think that they have no respect for us when they speak to us as though we're simpletons in their efforts to 'build confidence'. So resentment is returned.

Equally there's a taught false perception that the english as a whole think of us with contempt; when you see that infamous Punch cartoon that keeps being dragged up almost 150 years later, someone's trying to manipulate you.
The indo tries to drum up the same every time some german politician says something foolish regarding Ireland.

In reality it's a rare enough oddball that tries to elevate themselves by disrespecting others, and there are plenty of the same that are Irish, including family members.

I hate the Irish Air force, most of their planes were got from Adverts.ie. Traded for a projector.

sjb25

caustic 1 wrote: »

The one I seen was a large jet being escorted on either side by much smaller planes and one behind.

US fuel tanker aircraft with 3 jets bringing them home I'm told happens regular enough this was Notting to do with the Russian incident

tomwaterford

[Deleted User] wrote: »

I hate the Irish Air force, most of their planes were got from Adverts.ie. Traded for a projector.

Ok so??...

DeadHand

ThinkAboutIt wrote: »

I think this is great, we can't defend ourselves and they are kind enough to do so

Which may be a good point except for the fact that Russia has about as much interest in attacking Ireland as Ireland has in invading Burkina Faso.

It's all part of the recent probing of European military preparedness by Russian naval and air forces in response to NATO's self justifying expansion and sabre rattling.

caustic 1

sjb25 wrote: »

US fuel tanker aircraft with 3 jets bringing them home I'm told happens regular enough this was Notting to do with the Russian incident

Ah there you go, I live on flight path and have never seen it before. Just as a matter of interest told by whom, the KGB?:pac:

sjb25

caustic 1 wrote: »

Ah there you go, I live on flight path and have never seen it before. Just as a matter of interest told by whom, the KGB?:pac:

Nope the guys on the aviation forum here possibly KGB I dunno http://touch.boards.ie/thread/2057371364/3/#post94077740