NTA Board Appointment Criteria.

Losty Dublin

expectationlost wrote: »

Dublin Transport Authority Act 2008
don't boards have to be uneven, is there a non-voting member in the ex-officio positions?

Most formal committees run with the chair only exercising a casting vote if required.

expectationlost

Losty Dublin wrote: »

Most formal committees run with the chair only exercising a casting vote if required.

Most formal committees also are uneven afaik, so...

currently 12 slots listed for members http://www.dttas.ie/sites/default/files/content/corporate/english/general/state-board-membership-and-approved-fees/20150309-report-state-boards.pdf


but this says 9 http://www.irishstatutebook.ie/2008/en/act/pub/0015/sec0014.html#sec14

in a few days there be 6 vacancies, 5 if Valerie O'Reilly is re-appointed.

expectationlost

Valerie O'Reilly no longer a member National Transportation Authority board as of 14th March
https://www.nationaltransport.ie/about-us/board/

not immediately reappointed which is usually the case with reappointments but still small chance Donohoe will reappoint her.

expectationlost

Lowry's former PR adviser no longer on NTA board - RTÉ News RTE coverage of it

Documents released from the Department of Transport to RTÉ News, under the Freedom of Information Act, show that Ms O'Reilly's term of office on the board of the NTA concluded last Sunday.

they didn't need FOI to find that out

still again loads of vacancies on this board

expectationlost

clarification on how many board positions there are its 12 with 6 now vacant.


Section 14 of the 2008 Act has been amended by section 29(1)(e) of the Public Transport Regulation Act 2009 (No. 37 of 2009) which increased the membership of the Authority (i.e. the Board) to 12. http://www.irishstatutebook.ie/2008/en/act/pub/0015/sec0014.html#sec14 http://www.irishstatutebook.ie/2009/en/act/pub/0037/sec0029.html#sec29

expectationlost

Available Appointment to the Board of the National Transport Authority http://www.stateboards.ie/stateboards/campaignAdvert/18385.htm six vacancies

experience in either finance,transport ict,PR,transport,regulation

woodrow wyatt

expectationlost wrote: »

Available Appointment to the Board of the National Transport Authority http://www.stateboards.ie/stateboards/campaignAdvert/18385.htm six vacancies

experience in either finance,transport ict,PR,transport,regulation

Why not someone to represent the commuter?
Someone with no connections to the political class who is only getting a nice little earner on a quango.

expectationlost

seriously why hasn't he appointed anybody?

5 vacancies on National Transport Authority board for 8 months 1 vacancy for 5 months, advertised 3 months ago still unfilled

shodge

expectationlost wrote: »

seriously why hasn't he appointed anybody?

5 vacancies on National Transport Authority board for 8 months 1 vacancy for 5 months, advertised 3 months ago still unfilled

Proof if it was ever needed that these appointments are a political gift, these jobs serve no purpose other than being a handy few quid as reward for service to the government of the day.

expectationlost

some people were recently appointed to the board CIE I can find ads on the Public Appointment System for two of them, http://www.irisoifigiuil.ie/currentissues/IR140715.pdf

@stateboards
Seeking Appointment to the Board of Coras Iompair Eireann CIE - finance http://bit.ly/193Cyuf #stateboards
4:31 PM - 27 Mar 2015
https://twitter.com/stateboards/status/581493699152084993

@stateboards
Seeking Appointment to the Board of Coras Iompair Eireann CIE Strategy Development http://bit.ly/1xk1ngB #stateboards
4:45 PM - 27 Mar 2015
https://twitter.com/stateboards/status/581497255565357056

CÓRAS IOMPAIR ÉIREANN
APPOINTMENTS TO THE BOARD
In accordance with Section 6 of the Transport Act 1950 as amended,
the Government today appointed
(1) Ms Christine Moran
to the Board of Córas Iompair Éireann, as a member for a period of 3
years, with immediate effect; and

(2) MS Niamh Walsh
AND
Mr. Ruairí O’Flynn
to the Board of Córas Iompair Éireann as members for a period of 3
years, with effect from 24th July 2015.

MARTIN FRASER [All appointments to the CIÉ Board are subject to Government approval https://www.kildarestreet.com/wrans/?id=2015-05-27a.562&s=Aebhric+McGibney#g564.r]
Ard-Rúnaí an Rialtais
BAILE ÁTHA CLIATH,
An 7ú lá seo de d’Iúil, 2015.
DUBLIN,
This 7th day of July, 2015.
[25A]

http://www.cie.ie/board-member-biographies

but no notice of that on their website, DTTAS usually have prompt information in that regard http://www.dttas.ie/corporate/english/state-board-membership-and-approved-fees

that gives me 12 members http://dublinstreams.com/charts/cieboard.html

Transport Act, 1950 PART II. Coras Iompair Eireann. http://www.irishstatutebook.ie/1950/en/act/pub/0012/print.html#sec6

Constitution of the Board.


6.—(1) (a) The Board shall consist of such number of members as the Government may from time to time appoint.
(b) The Government shall so exercise their powers under paragraph (a) of this subsection that the number of members of the Board for the time being holding office is not less than three or more than seven.

but obviously changed since then


Christine Moran
https://www.linkedin.com/pub/christine-moran/72/b08/859
Experienced Non-Executive Director .Certified Bank Director & Qualified Chartered Accountant

Ruairí O'Flynn
https://www.linkedin.com/pub/ruair%C3%AD-o-flynn/6/106/a41
Chairman, Director, Experienced CEO

Niamh Walsh ? too common a name to narrow it down

All appointments to the CIÉ Board are subject to Government approval https://www.kildarestreet.com/wrans/?id=2015-05-27a.562&s=Aebhric+McGibney#g564.r as you can see it was signed off by the government/taoiseach's secretary general

I wonder if that will be given as excuse for DTTAS not to announce these appointments

shodge

So there should be no more than 7 but we now have 12.
Sounds like to me the wheels are about to come off, gets as many as you can on the gravy train before it is scrapped.

expectationlost

shodge wrote: »

So there should be no more than 7 but we now have 12.
Sounds like to me the wheels are about to come off, gets as many as you can on the gravy train before it is scrapped.

well it must have been amended at some point between 1950 and no, but difficult to find that bit of law and of course they changed the executive chair of CIE,IR,BAC,BE to non-exec and added 3 chairs of the IR, BAC and BE in ~2008, I'd like to find the law that did that too, in the DTA ACT 2008 ? http://www.irishstatutebook.ie/2008/en/act/pub/0015/print.html

http://dublinstreams.com/charts/cieboardall.html

LXFlyer

expectationlost wrote: »

well it must have been amended at some point but difficult to find that bit of law and of course they changed the executive chair of CIE,IR,BAC,BE to non-exec and added 3 executive chairs of the IR, BAC and BE in ~2008, I'd like to find the law that did that too, in the DTA ACT 2008 ? http://www.irishstatutebook.ie/2008/en/act/pub/0015/print.html http://dublinstreams.com/charts/cieboardall.html

The non-executive chairs were introduced after the delightful man that is Dr John Lynch retired. As far as I am aware they are all non-executive with the CEO fulfilling the executive responsibilities now.

Not a bad thing - should bring more focus to the individual boards.

You do seem to have a particular personal hang up about this - virtually every post here for months has been by one person - not really a discussion but more of a personal rant!

expectationlost

lxflyer wrote: »

The non-executive chairs were introduced after the delightful man that is Dr John Lynch retired. As far as I am aware they are all non-executive with the CEO fulfilling the executive responsibilities now.

Not a bad thing - should bring more focus to the individual boards.

You do seem to have a particular personal hang up about this - virtually every post here for months has been by one person - not really a discussion but more of a personal rant!

oh skipped over the word ceo, thanks for clarifying lxflyer, isn't it wonderful what discussion boards can do

its not my fault if more people don't respond, I might classify some of the responses as ranty and my posts as informative but seeking more information.

LXFlyer

expectationlost wrote: »

you can see my confusion,

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its not my fault if more people don't respond

No it was quite simple. The exec-chair who ran the place as a personal fiefdom retired and proper corporate governance was put in.

Well I would suggest it makes it rather pointless going on and on about it if no one else responds.

You had the same issue on the Aviation board.

shodge

lxflyer wrote: »

No it was quite simple. The exec-chair who ran the place as a personal fiefdom retired and proper corporate governance was put in.
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Why did the minister of transport allow this to happen? Thats the question that need answering.

schemingbohemia

shodge wrote: »

Why did the minister of transport allow this to happen? Thats the question that need answering.

Perhaps because a succession of Fianna Fáil ministers liked their Fianna Fáil supporting Chairman/Chief Exec?

Carawaystick

shodge wrote: »

Why did the minister of transport allow this to happen? Thats the question that need answering.

Maybe she was in her bath?

expectationlost

schemingbohemia wrote: »

Perhaps because a succession of Fianna Fáil ministers liked their Fianna Fáil supporting Chairman/Chief Exec?

yeah I was about to say that it would be long list of them, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minister_for_Transport,_Tourism_and_Sport

pretty much finished timelining the board from ~2000 http://dublinstreams.com/charts/cieboardall.html welcome corrections, sources are Annual Reports, Iris Oifiguil https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1mBgVbF9wvVOTpcPBlne7msig1q7xY1vyaZsSq1NezKc/edit?usp=sharing via the Oireachtas online Library http://opac.oireachtas.ie


CIE Board Bio http://www.cie.ie/board-member-biographies but doesn't have recent 3 appointment bios

got a reply from the dept they say they'll update the info soon they are busy with agency mergers (RPA + NRA = TII I presume)

mickmmc

I wonder is Paul Kiely, a director of CIE up to 2011, the same Paul Kiely who was a former CEO of the CRC charity. There was a controversy about his salary and his pension.

Aebhric Mc Gibney, is a PR man with Dublin Chamber of Commerce. With respect, what experience has he of running a transport company?

Also, what experience have the 4 worker directors of running a large transport company?

The only one on that board who was a former CEO of a Transport company is Phil Gaffney, Chairman of Irish Rail.

The Chairman of Dublin Bus is a former employee and HR consultant. Again he is not a former CEO of a transport company or held a senior position in another transport company.

Ivan Yates put it very well recently when he said the function of a Chairman/ non-executive director is to sack the CEO or MD when it is necessary.

RainyDay

mickmmc wrote: »

Also, what experience have the 4 worker directors of running a large transport company?

Any one of them will know more about what is actually going on in the business than the rest of the board combined.

mickmmc wrote: »

The only one on that board who was a former CEO of a Transport company is Phil Gaffney, Chairman of Irish Rail.

The Chairman of Dublin Bus is a former employee and HR consultant. Again he is not a former CEO of a transport company or held a senior position in another transport company.

You seem to be mixing up CEO roles and Chair/board roles. These are very different roles, with very different skills. A great CEO does not necessarily make a great Chair/board member.

mickmmc

Certainly, a former CEO going upstairs to Chairman of the same company is bad governance. (eg. Sean Fitzpatrick, Anglo Irish Bank)

In my opinion the Board of CIE does not have enough directors with managerial experience of running a transport company; International experience would be ideal.

There is no guarantee that an ex CEO or former senior executive will be any good as a board member or Chair. However, in the appointment process weight has to given to their experience.

Phil Gaffney, Chairman of Irish Rail, is in a different league (in my opinion) as regards experience of operating a transport company compared to the other directors; he has years of International experience. David Franks, MD of Irish Rail, is a very impressive MD,in my opinion; he was appointed under Gaffney's Chairmanship. He is a man of vision.

AIB, Permanent tsb and Bank of Ireland have all appointed former CEO's/ Senior Executives of UK banks in recent years.

'Worker Director' is not defined in company law. A director has to act in the interests of the company at all times. A serious conflict of interest could arise for a 'Worker Director'. Those worker directors are very foolish to take up those directorships under those circumstances (in my opinion).
Jack O' Connor of SIPTU said he would never sit on a board as a 'worker director' - whatever that term means.

shodge

mickmmc wrote: »

Phil Gaffney, Chairman of Irish Rail, is in a different league (in my opinion) as regards experience of operating a transport company compared to the other directors; he has years of International experience. David Franks, MD of Irish Rail, is a very impressive MD,in my opinion; he was appointed under Gaffney's Chairmanship. He is a man of vision.

and every year IE loses money, real quality leadership right there. A man of vision, yea to run IE into the ground.

LXFlyer

shodge wrote: »

and every year IE loses money, real quality leadership right there. A man of vision, yea to run IE into the ground.

And how long is he in the job?

end of the road

didn't franks used to work for connex and first north western?

RainyDay

mickmmc wrote: »

Certainly, a former CEO going upstairs to Chairman of the same company is bad governance. (eg. Sean Fitzpatrick, Anglo Irish Bank)

In my opinion the Board of CIE does not have enough directors with managerial experience of running a transport company; International experience would be ideal.

There is no guarantee that an ex CEO or former senior executive will be any good as a board member or Chair. However, in the appointment process weight has to given to their experience.

It's an interesting opinion, all right. Personally, I'd have thought that ability to carry out functions of a board member is a bit more relevant than experience in carrying out operational management functions - quite different roles all together.

But that's just my opinion.

mickmmc wrote: »

'Worker Director' is not defined in company law. A director has to act in the interests of the company at all times. A serious conflict of interest could arise for a 'Worker Director'. Those worker directors are very foolish to take up those directorships under those circumstances (in my opinion).
Jack O' Connor of SIPTU said he would never sit on a board as a 'worker director' - whatever that term means.

I'd respectfully suggest that you refrain from commenting further on the issue of worker directors until you actually have a clue about their legal status and how they work. Here's your starter for 10;
http://www.irishstatutebook.ie/1977/en/act/pub/0006/

shodge

lxflyer wrote: »

And how long is he in the job?

Does it matter?
Where is the plan of action?
IE has a complete monopoly on rail in the country, the short term and long term plan to make the company better/profitable has no need to be secret, there is no rival than can try and beat them to the punch and implement the IE plan on their private rail service.
What have they done to improve the situation?

LXFlyer

shodge wrote: »

Does it matter?
Where is the plan of action?
IE has a complete monopoly on rail in the country, the short term and long term plan to make the company better/profitable has no need to be secret, there is no rival than can try and beat them to the punch and implement the IE plan on their private rail service.
What have they done to improve the situation?

It does matter if you are going to judge a man who has relatively recently taken over, and you already brand him as someone who is "going to run it into the ground".

Natural justice tends to suggest that you wait several years to make a judgement on someone.

expectationlost

lxflyer wrote: »

And how long is he in the job?

David Franks joined Iarnród Éireann as Chief Executive in February, 2013 http://www.irishrail.ie/about-us/management-team btw

LXFlyer

expectationlost wrote: »

David Franks joined Iarnród Éireann as Chief Executive in February, 2013 http://www.irishrail.ie/about-us/management-team btw

I know that - it didn't appear that the other poster did.