How will you vote in the Marriage Equality referendum? Mod Note Post 1

matrim

Flem31 wrote: »

The above is an opinion only. Same as my opinion is that it is just as likely that some people will be able to vote twice on referendum day and may in fact do so. With all these late changes to the electoral roll, is having two votes that unlikely an occurence.

To be fair it's actually easy enough to have 2 votes. I found out last year that I'm registered twice. Once where I actually live (this is the vote I use) and also at my parents house. I think the local councillor may have registered me when I was in college and I never knew about it.

I've never used the one at my parents house and don’t plan to. But apparently every election there is a polling card send for me to my parents house.

catallus

I get 4 polling cards and I use them all, mwahahahaha

Flem31

matrim wrote: »

To be fair it's actually easy enough to have 2 votes. I found out last year that I'm registered twice. Once where I actually live (this is the vote I use) and also at my parents house. I think the local councillor may have registered me when I was in college and I never knew about it.

I've never used the one at my parents house and don’t plan to. But apparently every election there is a polling card send for me to my parents house.

Oh I know it happens, my brother has similar circumstances to you.
My father died in 1989 but continued to receive voting cards until 2011.
As a family we made numerous attempts to have him removed but sending copies of the death cert on three occasions didn't have any effect.

Electoral Register needs a good clean up

Zen65

xrp wrote: »

Your lot are very fond of telling people how to vote.

"Your lot" ???

Is every citizen not equally one of "our lot"?

IrishSkyBoxer

Voting no.

padd b1975

Flem31 wrote: »

Oh I know it happens, my brother has similar circumstances to you.
My father died in 1989 but continued to receive voting cards until 2011.
As a family we made numerous attempts to have him removed but sending copies of the death cert on three occasions didn't have any effect.

Electoral Register needs a good clean up

I'm registered in both Mayo and Dublin, I have no idea how I ended up on the Dublin register...

That's two for the No camp at least!

endacl

IrishSkyBoxer wrote: »

Voting no.

Fair play. I'll cancel your vote out so. Doesn't really matter. Plenty of spare yeses to carry this one.

aloyisious

xrp wrote: »

I make no apologies for voting níl (and urging my peers to do likewise). Please don't try and bully me into voting inline with the gay agenda.

Would you care to name the bullies?

VinLieger

xrp wrote: »

I make no apologies for voting níl (and urging my peers to do likewise). Please don't try and bully me into voting inline with the gay agenda.

Now can you point to where on the teddy bear the priest touched you?

Zubeneschamali

xrp wrote: »

I make no apologies for voting níl

Knock yourself out: voting "nil" is a spoiled vote, and affects nothing.

K4t

xrp wrote:

I make no apologies for voting níl (and urging my peers to do likewise). Please don't try and bully me into voting inline with the gay agenda.

Gay agenda? Believe it or not, a lot of YES voters aren't voting yes for gays or in line with any gay agenda; they're voting yes for equality and for themselves. I'm voting yes for myself and nobody else. Selfish? Yep maybe. But if I'm selfish for voting yes (which doesn't hurt anybody and happens to make life better for a group of people) then truly god only knows what you are for voting no.

sdanseo

Joeytheparrot wrote: »

No, No and No.

Complacency due to polls will mean this will fail.

I don't really mean it in terms of polls, I mean that of those not apathetic enough to abstain from voting (something which I hate - use it or lose it, spoil your vote if you truly can't pick a side and at least then it gets recorded), most would probably be indifferent and therefore be more likely to vote yes than no. Of those militantly in favour of one outcome or the other, I'd suggest many more would be in the yes camp.

I'll happily predict a stupendously low turnout and 70% yes majority or more. That's not breeding complacency, it's realism based on opinions I've encountered.

TLDR: For every aul wan who can mobilise to preserve the integrity of Holy Catholic Ireland, there'll be three or four in favour.

Annasopra

sdanseo wrote: »

I don't really mean it in terms of polls, I mean that of those not apathetic enough to abstain from voting (something which I hate - use it or lose it, spoil your vote if you truly can't pick a side and at least then it gets recorded), most would probably be indifferent and therefore be more likely to vote yes than no. Of those militantly in favour of one outcome or the other, I'd suggest many more would be in the yes camp.

I'll happily predict a stupendously low turnout and 70% yes majority or more. That's not breeding complacency, it's realism based on opinions I've encountered.

TLDR: For every aul wan who can mobilise to preserve the integrity of Holy Catholic Ireland, there'll be three or four in favour.

I'm sorry but this is nonsense.

The referendum is NOT won.

It is winnable but it is most definitely not won. This needs to be repeated ad nauseam as many soft yes voters may think their yes vote may not count.

In 1995 9114 votes made a difference in the divorce referendum - that is almost one for every ballot box in the country. So 1 vote can really make a difference.

jaysblades

Yea it's not won yet . I think people will say yes to be PC but will vote no caus they secretly hate homosexuals. That's what I reckon anyway.

rewind28

I am on the yes side. Any adult human of legal age, should be entitled to legal recognition as a couple in this country. It makes no difference to anyone else. In cases of one partner's death, inheritance rights etc wouldn't be such a big problem. Why should the family of a gay person, whom perhaps doesn't even speak to them, be entitled to their possessions after a death rather than their partner?

sdanseo

jaysblades wrote: »

Yea it's not won yet . I think people will say yes to be PC but will vote no caus they secretly hate homosexuals. That's what I reckon anyway.

I can't stand that ****e. Say what you mean and mean what you say.

I've made no secret of my opinions on (and initially against) this issue but part of the reason I decided to vote in favour is through educating myself - in part through forums like this.

If people can't be honest education like that becomes impossible.

Alas, it's the internet, and wishing for honesty may as well be wishing for it to rain money. Ah well.

jaysblades

rewind28 wrote: »

I am on the yes side. Any adult human of legal age, should be entitled to legal recognition as a couple in this country. It makes no difference to anyone else. In cases of one partner's death, inheritance rights etc wouldn't be such a big problem. Why should the family of a gay person, whom perhaps doesn't even speak to them, be entitled to their possessions after a death rather than their partner?

I'd like to argue that point .... But I've got nothing. We'll done on presenting your argue ment. I don't like the idea of homosexuality, but I'll prob vote yes caus no one is free unless we all are.

jaysblades

sdanseo wrote: »

I can't stand that ****e. Say what you mean and mean what you say.

I've made no secret of my opinions on (and initially against) this issue but part of the reason I decided to vote in favour is through educating myself - in part through forums like this.

If people can't be honest education like that becomes impossible.

Alas, it's the internet, and wishing for honesty may as well be wishing for it to rain money. Ah well.

What did I say that was dishonest ?

rewind28

jaysblades wrote: »

I'd like to argue that point .... But I've got nothing. We'll done on presenting your argue ment. I don't like the idea of homosexuality, but I'll prob vote yes caus no one is free unless we all are.

What exactly do you mean?

jaysblades

rewind28 wrote: »

What exactly do you mean?

Don't mean to be pissy but what do you mean what do I mean ?

I don't like homosexuality.

I do like freedom.

If we deny homosexuals the same rights, then we're opening the door for other rights to be takeing from us.

So, no one is free unless we all are.

Is that a better way of expressing my thoughts?

QuinDixie

I am in favour of gay marriage, do not see the big deal.

But I fear it will be a no in the referendum, Ireland is a very conservative country.
Very few people would be honest and admit they are voting NO on this subject.

Greenmachine

While I am disillusioned with certain high profile case in the media, I will likely vote in favour of this. I do think the full financial repercussions of this will not be fully felt till, this actually come through re: married tax credit etc. I feel it is a positive and progressive approach. Who I am to question, who someone choose to lay down with, or become husband and wife with or any variation on that.

QuinDixie

jaysblades wrote: »

Don't mean to be pissy but what do you mean what do I mean ?

I don't like homosexuality.

I do like freedom.

If we deny homosexuals the same rights, then we're opening the door for other rights to be takeing from us.

So, no one is free unless we all are.

Is that a better way of expressing my thoughts?

Obviously you dont dislike homosexuality that much,

rewind28

jaysblades wrote: »

Don't mean to be pissy but what do you mean what do I mean ?

I don't like homosexuality.

I do like freedom.

If we deny homosexuals the same rights, then we're opening the door for other rights to be takeing from us.

So, no one is free unless we all are.

Is that a better way of expressing my thoughts?

Fair enough. I don't think you should think too much into it. Worry about yourself.

jaysblades

QuinDixie wrote: »

Obviously you dont dislike homosexuality that much,

I just like freedoms more than I dislike homsexualit.

jaysblades

rewind28 wrote: »

Fair enough. I don't think you should think too much into it. Worry about yourself.

Ah it's important enough tho , the outcome means so much to a fair chunk of people. Can't help the worrying , it's in my nature.

rewind28

jaysblades wrote: »

Ah it's important enough tho , the outcome means so much to a fair chunk of people. Can't help the worrying , it's in my nature.

Well some have little to worry about

jaysblades

rewind28 wrote: »

Well some have little to worry about

Yea true , I have a blessed life.

aloyisious

This comment from Leo Varadkar at the I.M.O conference will ruffle feathers somewhat. He said:There are about 5,000 doctors in Ireland and by the law of averages several hundred must be gay, lesbian or bisexual. "Many are not "out" in their workplace. While medicine is not a discriminatory profession, in the back of their mind is the concern that they may be treated differently by colleagues or patients. For reasons of professionalism, they are unlikely to raise the referendum in the workplace, he added.

http://www.independent.ie/irish-news/health/several-hundred-doctors-are-gay-but-not-out-for-fear-of-being-treated-differently-health-minister-varadkar-31134898.html.

diddley

I'll be voting yes. My father and brother will be voting no 'because of the children'. They don't think it's fair that a child will be bullied because of having 2 same sex parents. In my mind they'll be contributing to that culture of possible bullying by preventing parents from marrying and told them as much but, neither of us influenced the others view.