How will you vote in the Marriage Equality referendum? Mod Note Post 1

fran17

Mark Tapley wrote: »

I like the sound of Hell Morning Ireland . Is it new?

Listening to it sure is :pac:

c_man

I'm not sure I'll still be in the country when this comes around, but I'll be voting yes if here.

Visited the auld pair today. Let's just say that the Angelus is observed and recited twice a day up home... I asked if they'd thought about the referendum. Both said they'd be voting yes. "Sure the poor divils, aside from the rest it must even be hard enough for them (gay couples) to get a mortgage on a nice house since they've no legal basis." - Mam

bb1234567

floggg wrote: »

That was a bunch of waffle. Not once did he offer any explanation of any of his positions - just waffle about undefined "unique" qualities.

The problem for him and his "it will change marriage, because, I'm, it will" arguments is that we have already seen marriage equality introduced in other jurisdictions and there has been precisely zero impact on existing heterosexual marriages.

I saw a gay guy on fb posting links about this exact piece. I was like wtf..I don't know why he supports it

fran17

bodice ripper wrote: »

Its all true fran. Just today I had dinner in a gay bar in Amsterdam, and I overheard some dudes talking about their involvement in the conspiracy to drive fran mental. It's spreading.

How was the food?

bodice ripper

fran17 wrote: »

How was the food?

Spectacular.

B_Wayne

Great article by Gene Kerrigan on the people who led Ireland into being a better place to be a family. Unsurprisingly these people have little in common with the no side who constantly fought against the change...
http://m.independent.ie/opinion/columnists/gene-kerrigan/we-led-the-fight-for-family-values-31049258.html

shruikan2553

B_Wayne wrote: »

Great article by Gene Kerrigan on the people who led Ireland into being a better place to be a family. Unsurprisingly these people have little in common with the no side who constantly fought against the change...
http://m.independent.ie/opinion/columnists/gene-kerrigan/we-led-the-fight-for-family-values-31049258.html

Each time they have made the same claims and each time they have been wrong. At this point them going on about redefining marriage is enough to know that its a good idea.

Annasopra

I love this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bv_FqRzFyXo

Bannasidhe

Joeytheparrot wrote: »

I love this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bv_FqRzFyXo

My cousin's daughter has just sent out the invitations to her Wedding in June - the happy couple enclosed a letter explaining technically it will be a civil partnership but as far as they are concerned it is their wedding as even if the referendum is passed it could be a looong time before legislation is enacted (there is a genuine reason they can't wait) and that for financial reasons they cannot afford to invite the whole large extended family so they decided to invite just the eldest from each 'branch' - on my cousin's side this means her aunts. All of them in their early 80s or late 70s and ALL of them are going. My 80 year old mother is quite excited about it.

aloyisious

Politics as usual. Fidelma might vote YES in the referendum IF an amendment she proposes for the Child and Family Relationship is accepted. Her amendment states that birth parents will get a say whether their child is adopted by a heterosexual or homosexual couple. I hope her attempt to use children as a bargaining chip is declined by the Gov't. Sound's like she's clutching at straws.

http://www.independent.ie/irish-news/politics/independent-senator-will-have-great-difficulty-voting-yes-for-same-sex-marriage-31067793.html

freshpopcorn

This appeared in my local paper. I'm voting yes.
Dear Editor,
There is no equivalency between marriage and sodomy and those who seek to make them equal are only coding themselves and others.
'Fear of God is the beginning of wisdom' There are many today who wish to live as though God does not exist and work actively to kick God out Of every aspect Of Our Lives. God is not mocked.
We need only see what happened in the cities of Sodom and Gomorrah, to know that God will not tolerate homosexual behaviour. Since it a grave sin, we cannot support sodomy under any circumstance. While we are duty bond to condemn the action (the sin) we cannot condemn the sinner, but speak the truth in the hope that each will live the chaste life that God calls them To Do.
In Ireland for the past twenty years, in particular, we have been drip fed the homosexual lifestyle. All of the TV soaps, both home produced and imported, have been softening up the nation with their carefully crafted scripts so that our acceptance of the homosexual lifestyle, that is so opposed to God's laws, has taken a 'soft grip' on the minds of the people.
Along with that, we are warned that any opposition to the 'gay lifestyle' will earn us the term homopobic, intolerant, ignorant and old fashioned. While many may be bullied into silence, Christians are called to witness christ and to speak the truth, uncomfortable tough it may be.
We could never have envisaged that in 2015, Ireland would be asked to vote sodomy into the Irish constitution and be deluded into calling it marriage. Clearly, those pushing the agenda, believe that after twenty years of gay propaganda, Ireland is now 'ripe for picking'. It shows just how far down the decadent slope we have slipped. Catholics and Christians of all churches, have a clear choice to make come referendum day to decide whose side they are on. " whoever is not with me is against me, and whoever does not gather with me scatters" said the Lord.
Christ does not tolerate hypocrites. He calls us to 'Be my witness' and tells us that 'My sheep know my voice and follow me' when the sheep wander away from the True Shepard, they become slaves of a new master. ' What happened in Massachusetts'' will happen here. A documentary of the same name is available on the Internet for anyone who wishes to educate themselves in thus regard.
Persecution of Christians will follow here, aas it has done in ever other jurisdiction where sane sex marriage has been legalised. It won't br persecution by one such as ' Cromwell" but by the entire establishment. The new 'Human Rights" will give Government and it's officials and citizens 'the right to do wrong' and to penalise mothers, fathers, teachers, priests, photographers, bakers and any other person or service providers who do not step into line.
Regards,
Mairead

Nodin

Mairead wrote:

We need only see what happened in the cities of Sodom and Gomorrah, to know that God will not tolerate homosexual behaviour.

Bit mad God missed the chance to knock yer man off the scaffoldin when he was paintin the sistine chapel then so.

Annasopra

Freshpopcorn what paper is that?

freshpopcorn

Joeytheparrot wrote: »

Freshpopcorn what paper is that?

The Avondhu, it's a paper based in North Cork.

Sofiztikated

Are there any sound Mairead's about? I know a couple, and they're all raging thundercúnts.

Reiketsu

Sofiztikated wrote: »

Are there any sound Mairead's about? I know a couple, and they're all raging thundercúnts.

Meeeee....I try anyway

Not G.R

In 50 years time I reckon the no campaigners will be looked upon with the same derision as the folks who campaigned against racial integration in the US South.

mikemac1

K4t wrote: »

Just looking at the poll, I don't believe it reflects what would happen if the referendum were held tomorrow. I'd at the very least double the NO vote from 241 to a rounded 500, and I'd multiply the Won't vote by 5 x 106 to a rounded 500; I'd assume most of those extra Won't Votes to be those who ticked YES but won't bother turning out on the day, thus reducing the YES vote to under a thousand. That still leaves the YES vote at double the NO vote, but that's a lot less comfortable a position than the poll suggests, and does not take into account swing votes and the power of the secret ballot.

Tbh most of the posters on this thread aren't going to vote, even some of those who have realy strong views

It's rare for a referendum to crack 60%, could be a struggle to even get to 50% turnout Easy to read stats on wikipedia



And youngish people which are users of boards aren't known for always getting to the polls

SepTomBer

My vote is no.

El_Duderino 09

mylefttesticle wrote: »

How F88king stupid that we even need a referendum for this!

More wasted money on a wasted generation of politicians!

Fact is that if you are of legal age and want to get married you should be allowed regardless of orientation, anyone having a problem with this should mind their own business.

If god has his reasons for everything as unkindly religious people like to point out then I presume like heterosexual people he created other sexual orientated people in his same image therefore they should be afforded the same rights.

Anything else is just **** on a stick!

Ah now that's harsh on the politicians who actually agitated for the referendum. You're complaining both that it's happening at all and that it hasn't happened sooner.

I don't blame politicians for not bringing it up sooner. It might not have passed even 5 years ago so why would any politician push for it then?

Also gay marriage will be popular at a national level and will bring out the young voter while alienating the politican somewhat from their regular, older voter back in their constituency. So a politician can rely on the young vote to pass the referendum now and leave them twisting in the wind next year at the general election where the old folks will be out in usual force.

I don't blame politicians for not doing good things which will see them kicked out of their job at the next GE . That's the voter's fault for not supporting politicians when they make a stand.

In this case some politicians made a stand that you support and rather than give any credit to those who made it happen, you're complaining that it's happening at all.

Vernonymous

Spend your life with the person you love. I'm voting YES

mikemac1

mikemac1 wrote: »

Tbh most of the posters on this thread aren't going to vote, even some of those who have realy strong views

It's rare for a referendum to crack 60%, could be a struggle to even get to 50% turnout Easy to read stats on wikipedia



And youngish people which are users of boards aren't known for always getting to the polls

I think this is one referendum that might get young people our voting.

aloyisious

Was anyone listening to the 7 to 9 AM RTE Radio 1 news today? I thought i heard a passing reference that the marriage referendum would be postponed but didn't hear the full item.

StewartGriffin

Not G.R wrote: »

In 50 years time I reckon the no campaigners will be looked upon with the same derision as the folks who campaigned against racial integration in the US South.

No, it's nothing like that. This campaign is a debate on a legal contract of law, it can be opposed for reasons other than discrimination. Comparing those against SSM to those who opposed racial integration is the kind of hysterical nonsense that does no favours to the Yes campaign.

Zubeneschamali

StewartGriffin wrote: »

it can be opposed for reasons other than discrimination.

In theory, sure, it can.

In practice, no-one has actually come up with any such reasons.

Zubeneschamali

aloyisious wrote: »

Was anyone listening to the 7 to 9 AM RTE Radio 1 news today? I thought i heard a passing reference that the marriage referendum would be postponed but didn't hear the full item.

Bruce Arnold says both referenda should be postponed until the Supreme Court interprets the Children referendum.

I don't know exactly why, because when I heard "Bruce Arnold", I changed channel.

DeVore

Its so sad that yesterday is the last Mothers day I will have with my mum before she is forcibly replaced with a gay man.

StewartGriffin

StewartGriffin wrote: »

it can be opposed for reasons other than discrimination.

I have yet to see an example of that. Have you got one?

bb1234567

Not G.R wrote: »

In 50 years time I reckon the no campaigners will be looked upon with the same derision as the folks who campaigned against racial integration in the US South.

Its already very much frowned upon to be a no voter amongst the under 25 year olds at present! I don't know if I just have a very enlightened social circle but if you told most people at UCD you were voting no they'd probably think you were joking. Which is how it should be

bb1234567

mariaalice wrote: »

I think this is one referendum that might get young people our voting.

Agreed. Young people do talk about the marriage referendum a lot, its a lot more interesting to most young people than who their local TD is