Japanese hostage executed.

ardle1

Freaking IS have just executed one of those Japanese hostages, I have a feeling some serious sh!t is gonna go down because of this. Japanese wont let this go.

suicide_circus

Tora Tora Tora !!

Sheep Lover

This is definitely a good point to reintroduce Samurai to the world, fight the sword with a sword.

crockholm

suicide_circus wrote: »

Tora Tora Tora !!

Bora Bora Bora !!

Sheep Lover

crockholm wrote: »

Bora Bora Bora !!

I don't think a VW saloon will the answer to the problems.

Birneybau

Hadouken!

hfallada

It was like something from Austin Powers with Dr Evil demanding a ton of money. ISIS clearly googled Japan and seen it was rich, then thought they could get $200million from them. There was no way Japan was going to pay them

WallyGUFC

hfallada wrote: »

It was like something from Austin Powers with Dr Evil demanding a ton of money. ISIS clearly googled Japan and seen it was rich, then thought they could get $200million from them. There was no way Japan was going to pay them

I don't think ISIS bothered Googling it tbh. They have no regard for human life, irregardless of nationality. They're just as happy beheading these lads as they would be getting $200 million.

corner of hells

http://www.warlordgames.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/12/Bolt-Action-Japanese-army-list-600x763.jpg

Omackeral

B*stards.

gavindublin

Japan only has the military resources to defend itself. So they'll have to just throw piles of cloned iphones at them.

Birneybau

gavindublin wrote: »

Japan only has the military resources to defend itself. So they'll have to just throw piles of cloned iphones at them.

Think you're confusing China with Japan.

lazybones32

ardle1 wrote: »

Freaking IS have just executed one of those Japanese hostages, I have a feeling some serious sh!t is gonna go down because of this. Japanese wont let this go.

Are you sure it was IS? Could be the militant wing of 'Whale Watch' or Greenpeace exacting revenge...

ardle1

lazybones32 wrote: »

Are you sure it was IS? Could be the militant wing of 'Whale Watch' or Greenpeace exacting revenge...

I'm with you on that actually, tho maybe not in the light of what just happened to that poor guy!
But I actually do think we are going to see(within the next week or so)some huge moves on this evil that is terrifying the World as we speak!?
Can you imagine how his friend(the other hostage)is feeling right now?!

Banjo String

ardle1 wrote: »

Freaking IS have just executed one of those Japanese hostages, I have a feeling some serious sh!t is gonna go down because of this. Japanese wont let this go.

Japan's a fairly peaceful nation these days op, can't see this being anymore of a big deal than the victim being British /American / AN. Other

Omackeral

Pardon my ignorance but is Japan considered the West?

Captain Chaos

Omackeral wrote: »

Pardon my ignorance but is Japan considered the West?

It's a strong western ally so in that sense yes it is. It's more about it's political standing as west rather than it's geographical position of east in this case.

Connemara Farmer

gavindublin wrote: »

Japan only has the military resources to defend itself. So they'll have to just throw piles of cloned iphones at them.

I believe Japan is starting to change it's military, to give it more than self defense capabilities. Likely in response to both China and North Korea. A good thing I think.

corner of hells

Omackeral wrote: »

Pardon my ignorance but is Japan considered the West?

Yep , sure the Japanese gardens are in Kildare.

Omackeral

Captain Chaos wrote: »

It's a strong western ally so in that sense yes it is. It's more about it's political standing as west rather than it's geographical position of east in this case.

Ah no I got that part just wondering about culturally and historically given their past etc. Thanks.

Captain Chaos

Connemara Farmer wrote: »

I believe Japan is starting to change it's military, to give it more than self defense capabilities. Likely in response to both China and North Korea. A good thing I think.

It's always been a self proclaimed self defense force since the end of WW2. It's airforce is called the JASDF. Japanese Air Self Defense Force for example.

The only change they are making is the they recently announced their largest defense budget ever as they are looking to buy F-35 fighters and possibly develop their own fifth gen fighter, also new ships for their navy.

mad muffin

Now they've gone and done it. Don't they know anything about Japan? :eek:

Release the Kraken! I mean Godjira!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VU0bm2tofvw

AlanS181824

Awful thing to happen.

Omackeral

Posting Godzilla cartoons is sad and pathetic.

mad muffin

Omackeral wrote: »

Posting Godzilla cartoons is sad and pathetic.

What?! Who… who did such a sad and pathetic thing?!:eek:

lazybones32

Omackeral wrote: »

Ah no I got that part just wondering about culturally and historically given their past etc. Thanks.

Japan was a very closed-Society until immediately after WWII. They opened themselves up big-time to American influences.

wretcheddomain

Japan and IS both have suicide bombing in common though.

jugger0

ardle1 wrote: »

Freaking IS have just executed one of those Japanese hostages, I have a feeling some serious sh!t is gonna go down because of this. Japanese wont let this go.

Japan had all the aggression bombed out of them during World War 2. They wont do anything.

SEPT 23 1989

wretcheddomain wrote: »

Japan and IS both have suicide bombing in common though.

and their treatment of prisoners

FalconGirl

The Japanese public are not overly sympathetic to the plight of these two men. This is due to the fact that one of them stupidly left his wife and 2 week old child to go search for his captured friend.

FalconGirl

The Japanese public are not overly sympathetic to the plight of these two men. This is due to the fact that one of them stupidly left his wife and 2 week old child to go search for his captured friend who has a well known history of psychological issues.

ireland.man

FalconGirl wrote: »

The Japanese public are not overly sympathetic to the plight of these two men. This is due to the fact that one of them stupidly left his wife and 2 week old child to go search for his captured friend who has a well known history of psychological issues.

Strange, it makes me even more sympathetic to both these men.

DeadHand

wretcheddomain wrote: »

Japan and IS both have suicide bombing in common though.

Except the Japanese evolved beyond it, various Islamic factions haven't.

Donkey Oaty

ireland.man wrote: »

Strange, it makes me even more sympathetic to both these men.

The Japanese do not always see things the way most of us would do when it comes to issues like this.

Here's an extract from the Daily Telegraph:

In 2004, three Japanese aid workers, including a woman, were seized in Iraq. Militants held knives to their throats and demanded that Japan withdraw the 550 troops that were providing logistical support to allied nations operating in Iraq.

The three - Nahoko Takato, 34, Soichiro Koriyama, 32, and 19-year-old Noriaki Imai - were released after a week.
The Japanese government said at the time that no ransom was paid, although a team of negotiators who were sent to hold talks with intermediaries reportedly emphasised that the Japanese forces operating in the region were unarmed and were tasked with rebuilding infrastructure and delivering aid and supplies to local people.

Back in Japan, the three were criticised for "causing trouble" for Japan and the government charged them $6,000 for the chartered aircraft that brought them home.

More on this here from the Japan Times - it's actually a but more complex than the Telegraph makes out, and two of them were not aid workers it seems - but still a ferocious response from the public.

DeadHand

Birneybau wrote: »

Hadouken!

gavindublin wrote: »

Japan only has the military resources to defend itself. So they'll have to just throw piles of cloned iphones at them.

mad muffin wrote: »

Now they've gone and done it. Don't they know anything about Japan? :eek:

jugger0 wrote: »

Japan had all the aggression bombed out of them during World War 2. They wont do anything.

A man's died in one of the most painful and terrifying ways possible and all you lot can do is make pathetic, cliched jokes.

Would anyone here be cracking wise about guinness, taytos and potatoes had the victim happened to be Irish?

Birneybau

DeadHand wrote: »

A man's died in one of the most painful and terrifying ways possible and all you lot can do is make pathetic, cliched jokes.

Would anyone here be cracking wise about guinness, taytos and potatoes had the victim happened to be Irish?

Maybe not here but definitely somewhere else.

Those 'jokes' were more concerned with Japan's reaction more so than the death.

Pat Mustard

http://edition.cnn.com/2014/10/06/world/meast/isis-funding/

Interesting article on how ISIS finances itself through oil and levying taxes against (or robbing) people.

People who were oppressed by Saddam Hussein are now oppressed by ISIS instead.

FalconGirl

Deadhand

Strange, it makes me even more sympathetic to both these men.

I'd say its a cultural thing. There are big differences between the West and Asia. Where we would see the guy with a two week old child and say poor man and his family, they would probably straight out say its his own fault and he should bear responsibility for his mistake.

DeadHand

One consolation is that, unlike most of Europe, Japan had the wisdom and sense of self preservation never to allow mass Muslim immigration.

As a result their citizens, at home at least, are relatively safe.

ireland.man

Donkey Oaty wrote: »

The Japanese do not always see things the way most of us would do when it comes to issues like this.

Here's an extract from the Daily Telegraph:

Yeah, I remember that. It was the same in Korea when a dozen or so Korean Christian missionaries were kidnapped in Afghanistan. I would be all in favour of these individuals paying their own ransoms (or the church or newspapers or whichever organisation that encouraged them to undertake the risk) but when one is killed, it's hard for me to understand public outrage over money spent rather than the brutal murder itself.

ireland.man

DeadHand wrote: »

One consolation is that, unlike most of Europe, Japan had the wisdom and sense of self preservation never to allow mass Muslim immigration.

As a result their citizens, at home at least, are relatively safe.

Wait, you're criticising people for being insensitive and making jokes but you're trying to score cheap political points?

DeadHand

ireland.man wrote: »

Wait, you're criticising people for being insensitive and making jokes but you're trying to score cheap political points?

Making a relevant point and highlighting a genuine upside to the whole sorry situation.

ireland.man

DeadHand wrote: »

Making a relevant point and highlighting a genuine upside to the whole sorry situation.

Fair enough but you brought up immigration, Muslim people in general and the safety of Japan which seems very disconnected from a situation in which two Japanese people were murdered far from home by a single group of terrorists that most Muslims abhor.

I know it's silly but I'd love to see Japan provide that 200 million dollars to the Peshmerga or Iraqi army and other countries likewise do it every time ISIS demands a ransom.

Connemara Farmer

Captain Chaos wrote: »

It's always been a self proclaimed self defense force since the end of WW2. It's airforce is called the JASDF. Japanese Air Self Defense Force for example.

The only change they are making is the they recently announced their largest defense budget ever as they are looking to buy F-35 fighters and possibly develop their own fifth gen fighter, also new ships for their navy.

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-28086002

DeadHand

ireland.man wrote: »

I know it's silly but I'd love to see Japan provide that 200 million dollars to the Peshmerga or Iraqi army and other countries likewise do it every time ISIS demands a ransom.

Excellent idea.

I'd be more inclined to give it to the Peshmerga.

And such a gesture would also serve as a reminder that the bulk of the victims of ISIS and the vast majority of those on the ground resisting them are themselves Muslim.

RobYourBuilder

ireland.man wrote: »

Fair enough but you brought up immigration, Muslim people in general and the safety of Japan which seems very disconnected from a situation in which two Japanese people were murdered far from home by a single group of terrorists that most Muslims abhor.

I know it's silly but I'd love to see Japan provide that 200 million dollars to the Peshmerga or Iraqi army and other countries likewise do it every time ISIS demands a ransom.

They did. The Japanese government pledged $200 million in an aid package to help countries affected by these headbangers. Hence why ISIS kidnapped two of their citizens and demanded $200 million for their release.

RedemptionZ

FalconGirl wrote: »

I'd say its a cultural thing. There are big differences between the West and Asia. Where we would see the guy with a two week old child and say poor man and his family, they would probably straight out say its his own fault and he should bear responsibility for his mistake.

Wonder why they have such high suicide rates...

Baggy Trousers

ardle1 wrote: »

Freaking IS have just executed one of those Japanese hostages, I have a feeling some serious sh!t is gonna go down because of this. Japanese wont let this go.

What makes you think that? They let 2 H-bombs "go".

Smiles35

So silly shaming them like this in full view.

BlaasForRafa

RedemptionZ wrote: »

Wonder why they have such high suicide rates...

They have a similar rate to many european countries. On the other hand Japan has very low crime rates.

BlaasForRafa

Baggy Trousers wrote: »

What makes you think that? They let 2 H-bombs "go".

Which "H-bombs" are you referring to?