Saturday 24/1

sdoc13

Two for me tomorrow at lingfield.

Profile Star in the 1.35 14/1. He has won off of 78 and 71 and is down to a mark of 63. Backed this its last run when it drifted like a barge in the betting. Ran well to finish beaten 3L in 5th. Thought it was given an easy enough ride and put into trouble. Fav also well handicapped and well supported but this lad is equally as well in and is 3.5 times the price. 3 pts win.

2.35 Loyalty 16/1 last win was off 87. Down to a mark of 75, Ran reasonably the last day and having had a difficult early part of the race ran on well at the finish. Definately capable of winning a race like this off this mark. 3 pts win.

I have also had a 1pt double.

mailburner

hope dynaste wins tomorrow and they go for the gold cup

I'm taking the 20s in case
they'll never have a better chance of landing such a wide open gc

jimjamcos

mailburner wrote: »

hope dynaste wins tomorrow and they go for the gold cup

I'm taking the 20s in case
they'll never have a better chance of landing such a wide open gc

Dynaste hasn't a hope in hell of staying GC trip, classy though he is

Peintre Celebre

sdoc13 wrote: »

Two for me tomorrow at lingfield.

Profile Star in the 1.35 14/1. He has won off of 78 and 71 and is down to a mark of 63. Backed this its last run when it drifted like a barge in the betting. Ran well to finish beaten 3L in 5th. Thought it was given an easy enough ride and put into trouble. Fav also well handicapped and well supported but this lad is equally as well in and is 3.5 times the price. 3 pts win.

2.35 Loyalty 16/1 last win was off 87. Down to a mark of 75, Ran reasonably the last day and having had a difficult early part of the race ran on well at the finish. Definately capable of winning a race like this off this mark. 3 pts win.

I have also had a 1pt double.

I have been seriously considering baking Loyalty tomorrow. I was disappointed with him last time but it was a funnily run race. I'm inclined to leave him one more run its not actually a bad race tomorrow.


The only other one I was consideringis Walkon but again will just watch. This could be a plot horse for a festival handicap. Either that or Alan King is totally clueless because this must be one of the worst campaigned horses I have ever seen. He is no 3 miler and running him in the National constituted animal cruelty. Back down in trip tomorrow he's one to seriously watch

mailburner

jimjamcos wrote: »

Dynaste hasn't a hope in hell of staying GC trip, classy though he is

you may be right and I hadn't even considered him until after the kg tbh
I suppose if stamina comes into play he'll be found out against the likes of many clouds, sc and others
I'm hoping he'll make the frame and anything else will be a bonus
I think a place is a real possibility


it's such a bad renewal that they'll surely go for it if it wins well

oPATCHo

A bad renewal?

Last years Ryanair winner (Dynaste), last years RSA runner up (Smad Place), the winner of the Hennessy (Many clouds), a decent Nichols horse (Black Thunder) and last years winner and GC place horse (The Giant Bolster)

It looks like a decent ran to me!

I'm a trends man, and the most shocking thing about this race is that the favourite hasnt won it in 10 renewals. I also think that Dynaste may be caught out tomorrow (although I'd love to see him run in the GC) by the testing conditions. Giving 8lbs to the likes of SMAD PLACE wont make this a walk in the part.

oPATCHo

BLACK THUNDER and SMAD PLACE in a RFC for me

mailburner

oPATCHo wrote: »

A bad renewal?

meant this years gold cup

great race tomorrow alright

torn between dynaste and smad place
I'd rather take a punt on dynaste at 20s than the measly 2/1 tomorrow tho

sdoc13

Peintre Celebre wrote: »

I have been seriously considering baking Loyalty tomorrow. I was disappointed with him last time but it was a funnily run race. I'm inclined to leave him one more run its not actually a bad race tomorrow.


The only other one I was consideringis Walkon but again will just watch. This could be a plot horse for a festival handicap. Either that or Alan King is totally clueless because this must be one of the worst campaigned horses I have ever seen. He is no 3 miler and running him in the National constituted animal cruelty. Back down in trip tomorrow he's one to seriously watch

Ya I thought the same about loyalty after his last run and was going to leave it. I watched the race back again and it was a tough race. Was scrubed along early to get a pitch and had to fight to stay there think it took abit out of him and thought he actually did quite well to finish where he did staying on. This race is weak enought too and if he gives his running 16/1 could be huge.

As for walkon dont even get me started, i have thought this horse had a big handicap in him for over a year. I think I backed him once in that time. He has been campaigned brutally. He may win tomorrow but i think he is underpriced to be honest i would have wanted 16s or 20s to think about it. That and the fact he could be being kept for the festival enough for me to leave him. Will be watching with interest though.

oPATCHo

mailburner wrote: »

meant this years gold cup

great race tomorrow alright

torn between dynaste and smad place
I'd rather take a punt on dynaste at 20s than the measly 2/1 tomorrow tho

Arhhh got ya!!!

I'm with you tbh, would love to see Dynaste run Gold Cup!

DyldeBrill

going to go with an small e/w punt on Thistlecrack in the 3.00 Cheltenham. 9 run and 16/1 looks like good value.

YoungKhalifa

Selections for tomorrow. In various singles and multiples.

12.45 Round Tower 7/1
13.15 Stellar Notion 4/1F
13.55 Snow Falcon 4/5F
14.40 Caracci Apache 4/1 2F
15.00 Present View 11/2 2F
16.10 Kiama Bay 9/2 J2F
16.20 Green Tornado 5/1 2F

superfurry1

Theatre guide 25-1 tizzard horses flying horse has cheltenham form fair bit to find with dynaste but worth chance at the price

posturingpat

I expect Dynaste to win today and win this well. I had him backed at Kempton and Scudamore oozed confidence which is rare for him and Silviniaco conti just stole a few lengths on the field turning for home amd Dynaste got caught for room for a bit but finished really well and his Cheltenham form is excellent. I have him backet nrnb for the Gold cup at 20/1 so im expectant.

In the cleeve Reve due sivola would be a tentative vote but i wont be backing anything in it but if Saphor de rheu goes stupid short which isn't beyond the realms of possibility ill lay him.

Francie Barrett

posturingpat wrote: »

I expect Dynaste to win today and win this well. I had him backed at Kempton and Scudamore oozed confidence which is rare for him and Silviniaco conti just stole a few lengths on the field turning for home amd Dynaste got caught for room for a bit but finished really well and his Cheltenham form is excellent. I have him backet nrnb for the Gold cup at 20/1 so im expectant.

In the cleeve Reve due sivola would be a tentative vote but i wont be backing anything in it but if Saphor de rheu goes stupid short which isn't beyond the realms of possibility ill lay him.

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Francie Barrett

Mike Mccann in the opener at Navan supposed to be very highly thought of, once entered for the champion bumper and has some smart enough form over 2m. Money down for this in a big way this morning, so I would be shocked if this doesn't win. Trainer is son of Barney O'Hare (Bar One racing) and have been known to have a touch. They also have Montana Slim later, which is another that looks well handicapped.

scon86

Francie Barrett wrote: »

Mike Mccann in the opener at Navan supposed to be very highly thought of, once entered for the champion bumper and has some smart enough form over 2m. Money down for this in a big way this morning, so I would be shocked if this doesn't win. Trainer is son of Barney O'Hare (Bar One racing) and have been known to have a touch. They also have Montana Slim later, which is another that looks well handicapped.

Some money around for this one today. 7's into 4's

tomaussie

Didn't he win over a million euro with 3 winners on the card a few years back. In navan I think.

Somebody who worked in a call centre told me that they were backed in doubles and trebles all around the country. Not sure if it's true.

I'll do a double anyway.

oPATCHo

Decided to go with SMAD PLACE this morning, 100 waiting to get match inplay

LOOPY!!!! :-)

Gringo180

oPATCHo wrote: »

Decided to go with SMAD PLACE this morning, 100 waiting to get match inplay

LOOPY!!!! :-)

Can't refuse him at the weights. Love Many Clouds but I think 8lbs is too much to give away.

Whosthis

tomaussie wrote: »

Didn't he win over a million euro with 3 winners on the card a few years back. In navan I think.

Somebody who worked in a call centre told me that they were backed in doubles and trebles all around the country. Not sure if it's true.

I'll do a double anyway.

If you're feeling really lucky (as in lucky 15 lucky) he also has Bank Man in the 2.30 and Special Bar in the 3.05. Neither of them look up to very much.

posturingpat

The O' Hares are notorious for putting out the nod for horses and laying the bollocks off them lads so i wouldnt go too mad,not saying this horse wont win but I'd advise an air of caution.

seoirsem

EW Lucky 15 today :

Cheltenham 1:50 Smad Place
Navan 2:30 Theoystercatcher
Doncaster 3:15 Fairy Rath
Cheltenham 4:10 Royal Irish Hussar

Francie Barrett

posturingpat wrote: »

The O' Hares are notorious for putting out the nod for horses and laying the bollocks off them lads so i wouldnt go too mad,not saying this horse wont win but I'd advise an air of caution.

True, but it's usually donkeys that get gambled. Mike Mccann is a good horse (imo).

langer91

Treble:

Mike Mccann
Snow Falcon
Dynaste

Francie Barrett

Shrewdoperator in the last at Navan has got as good bumper form as any of the rest of these, but yet is as high as 16/1 simply because the trainer's form has been dog$hit over the last few months. Probably comes up short today, but definitely worth an e/w punt.

Whosthis

Had a small ew on Harvey's Hope in the first at Doncaster. 25/1

Peintre Celebre

Good word for C'est Notre Gris in the opener at Navan

JIdontknow

Got the same word for that horse, first race in Navan.

superfurry1

Bivouac in first at Cheltenham nice price 8-1.

Whosthis

Whosthis wrote: »

Had a small ew on Harvey's Hope in the first at Doncaster. 25/1

Might not have had much of a chance anyway but I hate when I back something and find out after the fact that I've gotten my facts wrong. Was sure I read the going was soft/heavy, comms said it was good/soft.


Edit comms not comes.

Francie Barrett

What price will Peace And Co be for the triumph if it wins here?

Francie Barrett

Francie Barrett wrote: »

What price will Peace And Co be for the triumph if it wins here?

What a monkey, Barry got the arms pulled off him, but the horse looks a machine.

irish_major

Francie Barrett wrote: »

What a monkey, Barry got the arms pulled off him, but the horse looks a machine.

Jumped poorly but the slow pace didn't help. Couldn't but be impressed by the way he came to win it.

Deco99

Francie Barrett wrote: »

What price will Peace And Co be for the triumph if it wins here?

5/2 now. Will it last or go out?

MoscowFlyer

Just got word for Nosey Box - 2.50 Uttox

Harry Angstrom

The Giant Bolster is a bit of a forgotten horse here, in terms of the betting market.

Gringo180

Is it just me or is Dynaste a very over rated horse among some? Very exposed over 3 miles, cant see why anybody could tip him as a Gold Cup horse.

Harry Angstrom

Gringo180 wrote: »

Is it just me or is Dynaste a very over rated horse among some? Very exposed over 3 miles, cant see why anybody could tip him as a Gold Cup horse.

Couldn't have him for the Gold Cup. He's a Ryanair horse IMO.

oPATCHo

Gringo180 wrote: »

Is it just me or is Dynaste a very over rated horse among some? Very exposed over 3 miles, cant see why anybody could tip him as a Gold Cup horse.

We'll see very soon...

irish_major

Good performance by the winner. Strange one by dynaste

jimjamcos

Two greys don't stay well enough but the winner is gutsy as you like. Will improve on that for a GC

jimjamcos

irish_major wrote: »

Good performance by the winner. Strange one by dynaste

Nothing strange whatsoever. Ran as you'd expect

Gringo180

irish_major wrote: »

Good performance by the winner. Strange one by dynaste

Just not good enough imo. Will always find 1 too good against the best.

BorneTobyWilde

Tips from various posters who put the time in

sdoc 13 Profile Star 14-1 1.25 --Loyalty 16-1 2.35 WINNER

oPATCHo Black Thunder 8-1 1.50 ---Smad Place 3-1 1.50

DyldeBrill Thistlecrack 16-1 3.00 ---

YoungKlalifa
12.45 Round Tower 7/1
13.15 Stellar Notion 4/1F
13.55 Snow Falcon 4/5F WINNER
14.40 Caracci Apache 4/1 2F WINNER
15.00 Present View 11/2 2F
16.10 Kiama Bay 9/2 J2F
16.20 Green Tornado 5/1 2F

SuperFurry1 Theatre 20-1 1.50

Langer91 Snow Falcon

FrancieBarret Shrewdoperator 16-1 4.15

MoscowFryer Nosey Box 2.50

Some left out that have ran already.

longshotvalue

The Giant Bolster beats all those in a properly run gold cup.. If dynaste can't win that race he won't get close in the gold cup..

mailburner

Poor enough round of jumping by dynaste
Should of listened to some of ye last nite

Very impressed by that winner who just kept on finding more

jimjamcos

Analifet some bridle merchant.

jimjamcos

jimjamcos wrote: »

Analifet some bridle merchant.

Very much so. Thought she'd win easy but found very little after traveling into the race so well.

posturingpat

That was far from a Gold cup trial. Awful race. Good ride by Aspell,very surprised if he wins a Gold cup though. Dynaste jumped like a pig,slow pace didn't suit at all. Ryanair it is. When will i get my NRNB money :pac:

BorneTobyWilde

Great run by Big Fella Thanks.