What's Goin on up at Marian PK

Road-Hog

Passed by the above earlier good few people assembled with banners about no water meters etc...........I didn't realise that IW metering guys were in town, thought they would have had more sense after what happened over in Ferrybank?

ec18

it's not something that's going to be stopped only delayed........so of course they'll be back and right or wrong arrests for 'protestors' are a reality

shinzon

There putting in Boundary boxes for the Water Meters, company called Shareridge is going to be blitzing the town or at least trying to to get it all done

However as has been proved elsewhere in the country they have none of the requisite site notices health and safety documentation displayed anywhere on the vehicles etc etc, so delayed or not they cannot commence works anywhere without those so can be moved on until such time as those notices are gotten

Shin

wellboytoo

shinzon wrote: »

There putting in Boundary boxes for the Water Meters, company called Shareridge is going to be blitzing the town or at least trying to to get it all done

However as has been proved elsewhere in the country they have none of the requisite site notices health and safety documentation displayed anywhere on the vehicles etc etc, so delayed or not they cannot commence works anywhere without those so can be moved on until such time as those notices are gotten

Shin

Total Bol#cks Shin, surprised at you, normally sensible stuff from you. There is no requirement for health and safety site notices as you say above, for road openings and large works yes but not for what is deemed small works.

shinzon

wellboytoo wrote: »

Total Bol#cks Shin, surprised at you, normally sensible stuff from you. There is no requirement for health and safety site notices as you say above, for road openings and large works yes but not for what is deemed small works.

really

http://www.hsa.ie/eng/Publications_and_Forms/Publications/Safe_System_of_Work_Plan_SSWP_/SSWP_Roadworks_Pic.pdf

Shin

wellboytoo

shinzon wrote: »

really

http://www.hsa.ie/eng/Publications_and_Forms/Publications/Safe_System_of_Work_Plan_SSWP_/SSWP_Roadworks_Pic.pdf

Shin

So what's your point, ? leaving a link to an HSA document that is a general building works recommendation, is like going to fix a watch with a vise grip! You are being pedantic and grasping at straws like this whole stupid "campaign" of anti water charges.

shinzon

wellboytoo wrote: »

So what's your point, ? leaving a link to an HSA document that is a general building works recommendation, is like going to fix a watch with a vise grip! You are being pedantic and grasping at straws like this whole stupid "campaign" of anti water charges.

if you read the document youd see that at the very least there has to be safepass credentials displayed before any works are carried out and that is at the very least so no not grasping at straws tbh

If you link any evidence to the contrary that no documents need to be displayed or presented anywhere before works are undertaken id read through it

Shin

Potential-Monke

shinzon wrote: »

if you read the document youd see that at the very least there has to be safepass credentials displayed before any works are carried out...

Could you point out on what page it says it has to be displayed? On the first pictograms page, it says they must be available, but not displayed. And i'm pretty sure by available, that means the proper authorities can request them. Not some Joe Soap who decided he doesn't want a Water Meter installed.

shinzon

Potential-Monke wrote: »

Could you point out on what page it says it has to be displayed? On the first pictograms page, it says they must be available, but not displayed. And i'm pretty sure by available, that means the proper authorities can request them. Not some Joe Soap who decided he doesn't want a Water Meter installed.

Fair enough so just so we all know any fecker with a digger and a kango hammer can go around digging holes anywhere without any regard for health and safety requirements

:rolleyes:

Shin

wellboytoo

shinzon wrote: »

Fair enough so just so we all know any fecker with a digger and a kango hammer can go around digging holes anywhere without any regard for health and safety requirements

:rolleyes:

Shin

No they can't, but they do,in fact you do actually need a road opening licence from the relevant local authority, If I was you I'd stop digging as you obviously haven't a clue what you are talking about.

shinzon

wellboytoo wrote: »

No they can't, but they do,in fact you do actually need a road opening licence from the relevant local authority, If I was you I'd stop digging as you obviously haven't a clue what you are talking about.

ok tell me this oh wise one why did shareridge pull out of Marion Park

ill give you one guess and its not the protestors

Shin

Sully

This company are doing a lot more than just installing boundary boxes, if that's what there doing at all. Unless the main roads are being billed for water because there ripping up roadways all around the city installing pipes. Long, very long, pipes over a long stretch. Could be a fancy water meter for all I know but they are also working in the business park on the Tramore Road (businesses already pay for water).

shinzon

Sully wrote: »

This company are doing a lot more than just installing boundary boxes, if that's what there doing at all. Unless the main roads are being billed for water because there ripping up roadways all around the city installing pipes. Long, very long, pipes over a long stretch. Could be a fancy water meter for all I know but they are also working in the business park on the Tramore Road (businesses already pay for water).

From the Waterford Kilkenny says no Facebook page

We at "Waterford & South Kilkenny Says No" are delighted to inform all the people that work being carried out by the company Shareidge acting on behalf of Irish Water and the Waterford City Council fitting water meters in the Marion Pk estate of Waterford City has ceased due to Health & Safety standards falling well below short of acceptable standards and after a City official refused to accept responsibility for this area on site we then demanded that the H&S authority be brought on site immediately to deal with this issue.

This was not forthcoming and after consultation with the Gardai on site due to these concerns and poor and out of date faulty equipment the decision was made by and we stress made by Shareridge the company themselves to leave the site due to as they said non cooperation from the public.

Health & Safety concerns raised were as follows > hazardous dirty footpaths and street and oil left on street by leaking poor and out of date equipment and No Toilet facilities for the workmen on site.

Once again we stress we did not stop workers from carrying out their working duties, we did not obstruct flowing traffic, we did not interfere with the old lead pipes from being replaced as part of the pipe upgrading programme system in the area as we only peacefully simply requested that the whole area be made Safe for everyone.

Once again we the people were at the front line on this issue and all we ask for in return is your support on this matter if you agree with what we are doing.And remember the next estate they come to could be yours so support your neighbouring estates as you would want to be supported by them.


Thank you.

Robert o' Neill > Chairman.

Shin

Sully

shinzon wrote: »

From the Waterford Kilkenny says no Facebook page

We at "Waterford & South Kilkenny Says No" are delighted to inform all the people that work being carried out by the company Shareidge acting on behalf of Irish Water and the Waterford City Council fitting water meters in the Marion Pk estate of Waterford City has ceased due to Health & Safety standards falling well below short of acceptable standards and after a City official refused to accept responsibility for this area on site we then demanded that the H&S authority be brought on site immediately to deal with this issue.

This was not forthcoming and after consultation with the Gardai on site due to these concerns and poor and out of date faulty equipment the decision was made by and we stress made by Shareridge the company themselves to leave the site due to as they said non cooperation from the public.

Health & Safety concerns raised were as follows > hazardous dirty footpaths and street and oil left on street by leaking poor and out of date equipment and No Toilet facilities for the workmen on site.

Once again we stress we did not stop workers from carrying out their working duties, we did not obstruct flowing traffic, we did not interfere with the old lead pipes from being replaced as part of the pipe upgrading programme system in the area as we only peacefully simply requested that the whole area be made Safe for everyone.

Once again we the people were at the front line on this issue and all we ask for in return is your support on this matter if you agree with what we are doing.And remember the next estate they come to could be yours so support your neighbouring estates as you would want to be supported by them.


Thank you.

Robert o' Neill > Chairman.

Shin

I wasn't disputing or making any comment on Health & Safety issues?

wellboytoo

shinzon wrote: »

ok tell me this oh wise one why did shareridge pull out of Marion Park

ill give you one guess and its not the protestors

Shin

Did you not read the statement you posted? "Due to Non cooperation by the public"

shinzon

wellboytoo wrote: »

Did you not read the statement you posted? "Due to Non cooperation by the public"

Love the cherry picking that's what shareridge said which was nothing to do with why they actually pulled out

If it was non-co operation people would have been arrested for obstruction, remember the court order where people have to stay a certain distance away from the workers

Shin

wellboytoo

I'm not cherry picking just quoting your own post, make your mind up.
I had a look yesterday and share ridge were replacing all the 50 year old pipes and including some lead pipes. I wonder how the residents feel that they won't have the full pressure water not contaminated by lead that they could have had Monday next.

shinzon

wellboytoo wrote: »

I'm not cherry picking just quoting your own post, make your mind up.
I had a look yesterday and share ridge were replacing all the 50 year old pipes and including some lead pipes. I wonder how the residents feel that they won't have the full pressure water not contaminated by lead that they could have had Monday next.

Again read the statement they didn't block any replacement piping work going on

and just for clarification

Health & Safety concerns raised were as follows > hazardous dirty footpaths and street and oil left on street by leaking poor and out of date equipment and No Toilet facilities for the workmen on site.

Once again we stress we did not stop workers from carrying out their working duties, we did not obstruct flowing traffic, we did not interfere with the old lead pipes from being replaced as part of the pipe upgrading programme system in the area as we only peacefully simply requested that the whole area be made Safe for everyone.

Shin

Potential-Monke

You'll excuse me if i have zero respect for the groups who started far from peaceful. I wouldn't trust a word they say.

shinzon

Potential-Monke wrote: »

You'll excuse me if i have zero respect for the groups who started far from peaceful. I wouldn't trust a word they say.

well thats your own business not mine tbh

Shin

Max Powers

shinzon wrote: »

From the Waterford Kilkenny says no Facebook page

We at "Waterford & South Kilkenny Says No" are delighted to inform all the people that work being carried out by the company Shareidge acting on behalf of Irish Water and the Waterford City Council fitting water meters in the Marion Pk estate of Waterford City has ceased due to Health & Safety standards falling well below short of acceptable standards and after a City official refused to accept responsibility for this area on site we then demanded that the H&S authority be brought on site immediately to deal with this issue.

This was not forthcoming and after consultation with the Gardai on site due to these concerns and poor and out of date faulty equipment the decision was made by and we stress made by Shareridge the company themselves to leave the site due to as they said non cooperation from the public.

Health & Safety concerns raised were as follows > hazardous dirty footpaths and street and oil left on street by leaking poor and out of date equipment and No Toilet facilities for the workmen on site.

Once again we stress we did not stop workers from carrying out their working duties, we did not obstruct flowing traffic, we did not interfere with the old lead pipes from being replaced as part of the pipe upgrading programme system in the area as we only peacefully simply requested that the whole area be made Safe for everyone.

Once again we the people were at the front line on this issue and all we ask for in return is your support on this matter if you agree with what we are doing.And remember the next estate they come to could be yours so support your neighbouring estates as you would want to be supported by them.


Thank you.

Robert o' Neill > Chairman.

Shin

i have never heard such rubbish in my life from a person who clearly doesnt have a clue about H&S. No requirement to display Safepass, site notices in this case, safety documentation on vehicles and im sure all the rest of the verbal diarrhea quoted is bull too, clearly a case of some jumped up idiots trying to make up stuff to hinder something happening.
Why not do the right thing and admit your posse intimidated some lads trying to do their work and in the end ye f-ed it up because people on here have already shown that you dont have a clue what you are talking about and are a bunch of lads that most sensible people are best avoid.
As a side but linked note, these pathetic and spurious H&S claims (why the F are ye so worried about workmens welfare facilities) are counter productive because when someone spouts off some lies like this, they will always be found out. in this case, most people on here knew that the H&S claims made were ill-founded attempts to cause trouble. You might have a real H&S issue in the future, best not to try and abuse the laws there to protect people for some ill-conceived 3 stooges plan.

crustybla

Boundary boxes were being installed, even thought the residents were told that they were merely fixing pipes. The Guards were called and advised them to halt as there were actually several health and safety issues. A residents wall was cracked, other walls chipped, debris and oil running down the street, machines with checks out of date, dumper obstructing footpath, bald tires on said dumpster, no documents to display.
I don't get why some choose to slag off the protesters, and yes I'm proud to say I'm one of them. Always peaceful, always having a craic while trying to get a point across. We do already pay for our water. The meters are second hand, from Germany. They got rid because they say they're a cancer risk. This government stinks and we choose to at least try to do something about it. Better to have hope than sit at home giving out about it.

Hijpo

Max Powers wrote: »

most people on here knew that the H&S claims made were ill-founded attempts to cause trouble.

Nonsence, since when is showing concern in any way for another persons welfare (the workers or residents) being classes as an attempt to cause trouble.

Your post reeks of social psychology by the way, classing people who sit down and shut up as sensible and people who object the being charged multiple times for a single resource as trouble makers.

shinzon

Max Powers wrote: »

i have never heard such rubbish in my life from a person who clearly doesnt have a clue about H&S. No requirement to display Safepass, site notices in this case, safety documentation on vehicles and im sure all the rest of the verbal diarrhea quoted is bull too, clearly a case of some jumped up idiots trying to make up stuff to hinder something happening.
Why not do the right thing and admit your posse intimidated some lads trying to do their work and in the end ye f-ed it up because people on here have already shown that you dont have a clue what you are talking about and are a bunch of lads that most sensible people are best avoid.
As a side but linked note, these pathetic and spurious H&S claims (why the F are ye so worried about workmens welfare facilities) are counter productive because when someone spouts off some lies like this, they will always be found out. in this case, most people on here knew that the H&S claims made were ill-founded attempts to cause trouble. You might have a real H&S issue in the future, best not to try and abuse the laws there to protect people for some ill-conceived 3 stooges plan.

yeah id call these people a posse alright, get a grip in all honesty



Shin

Max Powers

brilliant..''in all honesty''...when you have been outed here as a bare faced liar by numerous people before i read your changing posts. Posse might have been the wrong word but just trying to be polite, bunch of charlatans, misplaced indignation, there are so many ways to describe these what i can only imagine (if they are associated with those posts) are a laughable bunch.
Normally i wouldnt bother but when someone/some group persists with lies, in a deliberate attempt to decieve people on here and the people of Waterford they need to be outed.

shinzon

Max Powers wrote: »

brilliant..''in all honesty''...when you have been outed here as a bare faced liar by numerous people before i read your changing posts. Posse might have been the wrong word but just trying to be polite, bunch of charlatans, misplaced indignation, there are so many ways to describe these what i can only imagine (if they are associated with those posts) are a laughable bunch.
Normally i wouldnt bother but when someone/some group persists with lies, in a deliberate attempt to decieve people on here and the people of Waterford they need to be outed.

You seem to have a chip on your shoulder calm down youll do yourself an injury with your indignation there, basic health and safety for the safety of the general public is practiced on all building sites otherwise any Tom Dick and harry could be digging holes all over the place with no concern for anyones safety.

And ive not changed my stance one jot from what I originally posted

Step away calm down and maybe then you can be an objective contributor to this thread.

You also seem to think that the Waterford Kilkenny says no thread is something to do with me and it isn't so please get your facts straight before calling anyone a liar

Shin

Max Powers

Shinzon, that post was increasingly despearate. Dont embarass yourself further by talking basic H&S, because your previous posts clearly indicated that you dont have a clue about basic H&S. You cant salvage the lies you already posted trying to pull the wool over peoples eyes.

wellboytoo

crustybla wrote: »

Boundary boxes were being installed, even thought the residents were told that they were merely fixing pipes. The Guards were called and advised them to halt as there were actually several health and safety issues. A residents wall was cracked, other walls chipped, debris and oil running down the street, machines with checks out of date, dumper obstructing footpath, bald tires on said dumpster, no documents to display.
I don't get why some choose to slag off the protesters, and yes I'm proud to say I'm one of them. Always peaceful, always having a craic while trying to get a point across. We do already pay for our water. The meters are second hand, from Germany. They got rid because they say they're a cancer risk. This government stinks and we choose to at least try to do something about it. Better to have hope than sit at home giving out about it.

The Guards do not get involved in health and safety full stop. It is hard enough to get them involves in a crime scene as it is ne er mind stretching incredulity to the Limit telling us a Cop made a call on H and S grounds,

shinzon

Max Powers wrote: »

Shinzon, that post was increasingly despearate. Dont embarass yourself further by talking basic H&S, because your previous posts clearly indicated that you dont have a clue about basic H&S. You cant salvage the lies you already posted trying to pull the wool over peoples eyes.

In the end I don't give 2 flying fiddlers what you think tbh, shareridge pulled out of Marion Park due to health and Safety concerns full stop, now whether you believe it or anyone else believes it I don't actually really care

And im not pulling the wool over anyones eyes why would I want to I have no vested interests in the page, I don't own it I don't administer it, other then copying the statement made from there page to here.

If shareridge cant handle a few protestors with a few banners asking questions and pull out because of so called "non cooperation from the public", they'll be **** all of the precious meters installed in Waterford


Shin

ec18

crustybla wrote: »

The meters are second hand, from Germany. They got rid because they say they're a cancer risk. This government stinks and we choose to at least try to do something about it. Better to have hope than sit at home giving out about it.

Do you have any actual proof of that? vague allegations unsupported are a general no no

wellboytoo

ec18 wrote: »

Do you have any actual proof of that? vague allegations unsupported are a general no no

The back bone of the anti water campaign vague unsupported statements. Or down right lies as they are called in English,

crustybla

wellboytoo wrote: »

The Guards do not get involved in health and safety full stop. It is hard enough to get them involves in a crime scene as it is ne er mind stretching incredulity to the Limit telling us a Cop made a call on H and S grounds,

I was there and they were advised to stop by the guards. They had no paperwork and some of their practices were considered a danger to residents.

crustybla

ec18 wrote: »

Do you have any actual proof of that? vague allegations unsupported are a general no no

Do you have proof otherwise? I don't think we question enough in this country. Where does all of our money go? 1.2 billion per year on water and the whole system is in bad shape. I'm far from an expert, just your average joe who is done buying the bs the government and media have been feeding us. Makes me feel a bit better attending a protest now and then. I know everyone doesn't feel
the same way as I do and that's fine.:)

spookwoman

Chip? I think it's piles and someone hasn't got a pile ring or preparation H. Might want to read this is for those of you that are shouting down the "hole" H+S issue.

http://www.hsa.ie/eng/Publications_and_Forms/Publications/Work_Related_Vehicles/Working_on_Roads_Guidelines.pdf

crustybla

wellboytoo wrote: »

The back bone of the anti water campaign vague unsupported statements. Or down right lies as they are called in English,

Really? You pay 2% from vat on everything you buy and if you own a vehicle, 5% from your car tax, just for your water. You pay for a new washing machine and then a bill comes in your door telling you to pay for it again. Would you?

wellboytoo

crustybla wrote: »

Really? You pay 2% from vat on everything you buy and if you own a vehicle, 5% from your car tax, just for your water. You pay for a new washing machine and then a bill comes in your door telling you to pay for it again. Would you?

What are you talking about?

crustybla

wellboytoo wrote: »

What are you talking about?

Enough said.:rolleyes:

wellboytoo

crustybla wrote: »

Enough said.:rolleyes:

I assume your source for all these facts you are throwing at us are all the same, Ripleys believe it or not!
Testicalation is the only thing you are constant in,

crustybla

wellboytoo wrote: »

I assume your source for all these facts you are throwing at us are all the same, Ripleys believe it or not!
Testicalation is the only thing you are constant in,

That made me laugh.:D I'd never beat you at that. I'm only giving my opinion, I don't care whether or not you agree with me.:)

ec18

crustybla wrote: »

Do you have proof otherwise?

I made no accusations to need to provide proof of........accusing irish water of buying cancer causing boundary boxes is and if it appeared in full view of the public domain it's possible you could be open to a libel law suit........

Cabaal

I'm curious, the protestors claim its all about health and safety, right?

So on that basis I'm assuming they also protest all other works that take place on our roads and footpaths, even if its telecoms related, road resurfacing etc? After all health and safety is important and its rather silly for them to limit themselves to only "policing" Irish Water works that take place on the claim that its health and safety related.

Or perhaps they have another agenda and this is nothing about health and safety?

crustybla wrote: »

.....The meters are second hand, from Germany. They got rid because they say they're a cancer risk....

This is a pretty serious accusation to be throwing around so I'd hope you have proof from a reliable source to prove it and by reliable I mean from a reputable organization/institution and not some random facebook post you are quoting.

crustybla

ec18 wrote: »

I made no accusations to need to provide proof of........accusing irish water of buying cancer causing boundary boxes is and if it appeared in full view of the public domain it's possible you could be open to a libel law suit........

Bring it on.:)

wellboytoo

crustybla wrote: »

Bring it on.:)

Be careful what you wish for, someone might eat your crust !:-)

crustybla

wellboytoo wrote: »

Be careful what you wish for, someone might eat your crust !:-)

True Wellboy2, I hope I have internet access in prison.;)

Max Powers

ec18 wrote: »

I made no accusations to need to provide proof of........accusing irish water of buying cancer causing boundary boxes is and if it appeared in full view of the public domain it's possible you could be open to a libel law suit........

Its possible (if highly improbable since not much evidence) that there is a real cancer issue with the meters but its lost in the spurious, ill founded claims and lies about things like health and safety issues. Throwing out all sorts of claims by people who know very little are just counter productive and the group making the claims written off by every sensible person as a bunch of nutters.

'Basic health and safety' was cited as the reason the contractor moved off, the groups and various posts on here have been proven to be lies and attempts to decieve at worst or just plain good ol not knowing what they are talking about at best, either way, totally discreditied. Maybe health and safety was an issue why they moved off,i.e they probably moved off because they thought their safety was at threat.

The anti-water group would do well just to stick to the main issues instead of trying to win arguments in stuff they clearly dont have a clue about. I had to laugh but sigh at the same time when on the 'Waterford & KK says no' page that they have pictures of these people preventing work happening and calling them things like 'heroes and patriots', while i think that protesting peacefully is brilliant, some of these seem totally disillusioned.

ec18

Max Powers wrote: »

Its possible (if highly improbable since not much evidence) that there is a real cancer issue with the meters but its lost in the spurious, ill founded claims and lies about things like health and safety issues. Throwing out all sorts of claims by people who know very little are just counter productive and the group making the claims written off by every sensible person as a bunch of nutters.

one would assume that when throwing out a serious accusation like that it would be sourced in the original post.......But i guess that'd be logical and reasonable

shinzon

Max Powers wrote: »

Its possible (if highly improbable since not much evidence) that there is a real cancer issue with the meters but its lost in the spurious, ill founded claims and lies about things like health and safety issues. Throwing out all sorts of claims by people who know very little are just counter productive and the group making the claims written off by every sensible person as a bunch of nutters.

'Basic health and safety' was cited as the reason the contractor moved off, the groups and various posts on here have been proven to be lies and attempts to decieve at worst or just plain good ol not knowing what they are talking about at best, either way, totally discreditied. Maybe health and safety was an issue why they moved off,i.e they probably moved off because they thought their safety was at threat.

The anti-water group would do well just to stick to the main issues instead of trying to win arguments in stuff they clearly dont have a clue about. I had to laugh but sigh at the same time when on the 'Waterford & KK says no' page that they have pictures of these people preventing work happening and calling them things like 'heroes and patriots', while i think that protesting peacefully is brilliant, some of these seem totally disillusioned.

Right can I ask you a question then and you answer it without going off on a litany

By your assertion in this thread.

The contractors rolled into Marion park and started digging and needed no risk assessment plan or health and safety personnel or health and safety plan for the safety of the general public just a digger and a few barriers and workmen and they can do what they want

Because if that whats your saying then I think the government should look into it I certainly wouldn't like anyone working either inside or outside my home without a modicum of knowledge in the area, thered be no need for anyone to do safe pass courses in FAS then.

You've already called me a complete liar in this thread so id like you to educate me as regards this issue please. Not trying to act the smart arse just asking for info that's all.

Shin

crustybla

I'm not disillusioned. I wish I was. Do you not question authority? Ask yourself if your elderly parents were living in Marion Park would you have shown an interest in the 'work' that was going on up there? I know a woman in her 80's joined the protest at some point, though I wasn't there then, but a man of 85 did hang out with me for a while. He was very switched on. He must be as disillusioned as I am. Some people are all too quick to slag off protesters. Fair enough I know, you have your beliefs and I respect that. Sadly I'm not in the pic, I had a great banner.

7upfree

Max Powers wrote: »

Maybe health and safety was an issue why they moved off,i.e they probably moved off because they thought their safety was at threat.

Ah here now. Have you looked at the photo? And seen the people carrying out the works? A threat? FFS.:D

Max Powers

shinzon wrote: »

Right can I ask you a question then and you answer it without going off on a litany

By your assertion in this thread.

The contractors rolled into Marion park and started digging and needed no risk assessment plan or health and safety personnel or health and safety plan for the safety of the general public just a digger and a few barriers and workmen and they can do what they want

Because if that whats your saying then I think the government should look into it I certainly wouldn't like anyone working either inside or outside my home without a modicum of knowledge in the area, thered be no need for anyone to do safe pass courses in FAS then.

You've already called me a complete liar in this thread so id like you to educate me as regards this issue please. Not trying to act the smart arse just asking for info that's all.

Shin

I never asserted that all the contractors needed was a digger and a couple of barriers. You were spot on with first bit though, they would have done a risk assessment, probably a plan etc. You dont necessarily need a certain type of safety personnel there, you certainly dont need to display the information like safepass (even though they will all have it) or on vans like was originally mentioned and Joe Bloggs on the street not even a Garda doesnt have the power to ask them for their safety info.
To be honest, this is getting tiring, lets not get into what you need and dont need, the issue was people trying to stop works happening because they dont want water pipes/bills and they tried to make up some silly excuses and use legislation and guidance they dont know owt about and meant for the protection of workers and public to try and stop the works. The contractors more than likely didnt leave becasue there was some mud on the ground or any other H&S issue, they prob left becasue they thought, lets go before this gets worse, maybe they felt intimidated, we can come back another day with the Gardai, this will cost the taxpayer more money in the end of the day.

barraseaclaid

Just to let all those who are so concerned about the H&S of the share ridge workers/general public that share ridge are now out side my door on maypark lane digging the road so I would appreciate if the so called protesters could come and ensure that the site is up to HSA standards and all required facilities are present...etc as ye seem so inclined...

Because of these protests we are in worse **** that ever with Europe now coming to investigate if Irish water is established as a separate legal trading company to the government and if they are not happy things go back to the way they were with no money to cover the upgrade of the water network. Yes we are probably paying three times over for water in vat and road tax and now Irish water but clearly the money collected by the former 2 just isn't a deep enough pot...people need to stop whinging about site notices all the H&S bull**** in order that the network is upgraded...I couldn't care less for myself really but what about children and future generations? They will have to suffer almost 3rd world water conditions because we were too stingy to pay for the upgrade just because we took the huff that the country went into recession and we had a hike in taxes...pity we didn't tax those who had so much
disposable income and invest in this infrastructure when rather than letting Them piss their money away on five holidays a year to their Spanish holiday home (which they probably had to
Pay water charges for too!)