Cloupor 30w mini

TinCool

I just took delivery of my Cloupor 30w mini this morning and I'm well impressed. This thing is ever so slightly bigger than the iStick, but has a lot more to offer.

Pros

• The thing looks and feels great. I went for the black model. Made of some sort of metal, not plated chrome.
• Goes to 30w, not that I ever need that sort of power.
• It takes an 18650 battery so can swap it if needed. to note, it doesn't come with a battery.
• micro usb charging. Excellent. No longer do I need to hook up a battery charger to charge up the 18650's.
• Nice and weighty feel to it. It definitely feels a lot more solid than the iStick.
• There is still a very slight overhang with my kayfun, but it's nowhere near as noticeable as the current iStick.
• Voltage can be adjusted in .01 increments. Wattage still in .1 increments.
• One of the sides comes off so that you can remove the battery. It's held in place by magnets. There is no play in the cover whatsoever on my unit. The magnets are plenty strong.
• You can lock the up/down buttons to avoid the power being adjusted by accident in your pocket etc
• Adjustable with screwdriver (not floating) 510 pin. Box comes with micro usb cable, a little screwdriver, pouch and spares box (magnets and screws) which is a nice touch.
• Get 15 second fire time as opposed to 10 before it stops firing.
• the 510 threads appear to be significantly better than the iStick (not made out of butter). They also look to be removable, so could be replaced.

Cons

• The only con I can see right now is that although it always displays the ohm's of your coil along with whatever wattage or voltage you have it set to, it doesn't show the equivalent voltage or wattage until you fire the atomiser. So if you've got it set to 3.7v, it'll display 3.7v along with the ohm of your coil, but will display 0w until you fire the attie. Certainly not a show stopper.

I've yet to take a vape (in work), but will give it a good going over at lunch time and report back.

accaguest

This really looks like a winner so far. Straight out of the gate with no major issues. And at that price...

Everyday something's coming out atm.

TinCool

I've just spent my lunch hour chugging away on this. I am well impressed. It feels a lot more solid than the iStick. Performance is absolutely fine. No miss fires at all. The 510 threads are super smooth. It just looks the business. If you're humming and hawing over what to get, this certainly ticks all the boxes. Small form factor (still can't believe that there's a removable 18650 in there) compared to a tube mod or an 18650 equivalent box mod. This is certainly now my main go to device with my iStick as a firm backup.

5 stars for me. I'm well happy.

jousting with chairs

Nice 1
I held off on buying this after getting stung with the T6 but it looks like they got it right with this one.

TinCool

Also noticed that the ohms readout of your coil is correct to 2 decimal places. As are the reading for watts and volts for that matter.

Boogietime

Guys this sounds fantastic if it wasn't for the 20day dispatch on FT... The only other thing stopping me from buying this is the bad reviews Cloupor has gathered with the last models. Has anyone checked the internals to see for the quality of the wiring/pcbs etc?

jousting with chairs

The build quality of the Cloupor products is very good.
I have the ZNA50 and the T6 from them,what has let them down is getting caught up in the watts race and lying about power output.
The ZNA performs close to spec but the most I have metered the T6 at under load is 45 watts with builds ranging from .2 ohms up so it should never have been marketed as a 100 watt device.

pueblo

Have this a few days now, it's a very solid little unit, nicely packed with good accessories, only a little thicker than the istick. It is considerably heavier than the istick (took a little getting used to for me)

I find it outperforms the istick. With the same atty and juice (silo tank and mothers milk) it gives a nicer vape but I'm not sure exactly why?

It could possibly be the 'over-power' issue with the istick and then the Cloupor being more consistently accurate gives a better vape?, whatever it is the Cloupor is better imo.

Tried it a few days ago with the Aspire Atlantis and 0.5ohm coil, I only had 18mg juice and it was too strong.....but it produced large volumes of warm vapour goodness.

Will be using this daily now. The replaceable battery seems to make good sense.

J Mysterio

Looking forward to getting mine now but it'll be a while yet

Only concern I have really is that the battery compartment may not be secure? Like may jig about or pop off or whatever? P Busardo drew attention to that in his review.

Hadn't realised it used a removable battery either until I saw the review. Presume it's 18650? What kind of battery life/ usage time are people getting? Wonder especially in comparison to the iStick which has impressive battery life.

Looks class anyway and looking forward to it.

jonski

Also , watch out for charging, I have seen a few comments and photos of ones catching fire while being charged , on reddit and also in the PBusardo video comments section . Seems it would be safer to charge the battery separately . As for the battery door i read someone saying he cut back the material band for the battery and the lid fit better .

J Mysterio

jonski wrote: »

have seen a few comments and photos of ones catching fire while being charged , on reddit and also in the PBusardo video comments section

Thad be a fecking disaster were it the case. That's one of the only things that kinda freaks me out about vaping. Never leave my batteries charge unattended.

jonski

J Mysterio wrote: »

Thad be a fecking disaster were it the case.

I was only pretending to buy one at the same time as you , I was actually letting you go ahead and then using you as a guinea pig

J Mysterio

lol.

You'll know I exploded once I stop haunting this forum.

pueblo

J Mysterio wrote: »

Looking forward to getting mine now but it'll be a while yet

Only concern I have really is that the battery compartment may not be secure? Like may jig about or pop off or whatever? P Busardo drew attention to that in his review.

Hadn't realised it used a removable battery either until I saw the review. Presume it's 18650? What kind of battery life/ usage time are people getting? Wonder especially in comparison to the iStick which has impressive battery life.

Looks class anyway and looking forward to it.

Haven't noticed any issues with the cover sliding off, the magnets are pretty strong.

It takes an 18650 yes. I have had this less than a week but it seems that the battery life in the istick is slightly better, although I am using a higher wattage with the Cloupor then I was with the istick. Anything over 7/8w with the istick and my Silo tank with 1.8ohm coil, seemed to burn the juice.

I think the clencher is the option of having more than one fully charged 18650 on hand, giving you a potential battery life (in between charges) well beyond the istick.

accaguest

J Mysterio wrote: »

Looking forward to getting mine now but it'll be a while yet

Fasttech really dropping a bollock with this one, what's going on over there. People ordering before Christmas and still haven't shipped, very strange.

Feck it, I'm holding off on any box for the moment anyway. Everyday one comes out/is posted on Facebook. It's relentless.

Poor old Innokin don't seem to know what to do. They'll have a big launch for their 30 watt, nobody'll notice.

jonski

accaguest wrote: »

Fasttech really dropping a bollock with this one, what's going on over there. People ordering before Christmas and still haven't shipped, very strange.

Feck it, I'm holding off on any box for the moment anyway. Everyday one comes out/is posted on Facebook. It's relentless.

Poor old Innokin don't seem to know what to do. They'll have a big launch for their 30 watt, nobody'll notice.

PBusardo just released his review of the IPV mini , thinks thats the way I gonna go .

accaguest

jonski wrote: »

PBusardo just released his review of the IPV mini , thinks thats the way I gonna go .

Maybe hold off on that purchase, looks like circular could be the way to go

The Onion Mod

https://www.fasttech.com/products/0/10012410/2101700-onion-mod-18350-mechanical-mod-clear-hybrid-15ml

jonski

accaguest wrote: »

Maybe hold off on that purchase, looks like circular could be the way to go

The Onion Mod

https://www.fasttech.com/products/0/10012410/2101700-onion-mod-18350-mechanical-mod-clear-hybrid-15ml

Some design engineer could make a nice pipe out of that .

pueblo

accaguest wrote: »

Maybe hold off on that purchase, looks like circular could be the way to go

The Onion Mod

https://www.fasttech.com/products/0/10012410/2101700-onion-mod-18350-mechanical-mod-clear-hybrid-15ml

That's going to look/feel a bit strange in the front pocket of your jeans!

Didihno

pueblo wrote: »

That's going to look/feel a bit strange in the front pocket of your jeans!

Easy fix, get two.


And a 26650 Hades......

jonski

This thread should be retitled the "Jonski Can't Make Up His Mind " thread .

All ready to pull the trigger on the IPV mini on Friday morning , had it in the basket , ready to buy . Went in to town and dropped in to Viktor and asked him for a final opinion and he said he was just waiting on his order of Cloupor minis to come in that day , so now I'm holding off again until I go back in to see him this week . IPV still sitting in the basket

Pique

Warning on the Cloupor Mini. Taken from Reddit.

http://imgur.com/a/0yJFI#1
http://imgur.com/a/C3LXZ#0

This is not an isolated incident, reports are popping up from around the world.

Here is what Cloupor has to say:

"About Charging Problems, Please use stable current charging device to charge our Cloupor mini or charge the 18650 battery independently. And you know, the computer and car charger's output current is not stable, so we do not recommended users to plug cloupor mini devices into computers/laptops or car charger. Thank you."

So according to them, you should only charge via a wall wart they did not provide or remove the battery and charge separately. IMO, It is not a good idea to use passthrough either.

EDIT 2: More emails in Cloupor-nese

Hi XXXXX, Thank you for your kind email. Yes, we are in deep research this problem now. About high technology device,becase the produce and shipping on the way,a few device not very stable, maybe that's normal. But we will try our best to solver this problem. Thank you very much for your support.

If this is "normal", I wonder what "abnormal" means to them.


So a regulated USB port on your laptop is not safe, but a $0.10c wall plug charger is safe??

TinCool

That's not good. Mine hasn't melted yet and I mostly charge it from a USB port in my desktop at work. I've also used a wall socket and an in-car charger and all was good. I haven't noticed it getting overly hot whilst charging. Also used it in pass through from all those sources. May be I'm one of the lucky ones To be fair, I'm not using the supplied USB cable as to me it looks real flimsy.

Roll on lunch, I've got my cloupor mini fully charged with spearmint, and my istick fully charged with vanilla custard.

J Mysterio

That's ****ing dodgy :eek:

Gonzovision

I'd highly recommend the IPV mini. Have mine the best part of a week now. Really solid device, good battery life. Well worth 60 euro.

J Mysterio

Might change my order from FT now...

jonski

I was going to say " thats it so , finally helped me make my mind up and settle on the IPV mini " but as sure as I do someone will post saying that the IPV gave them ebola .

Pique

Here's more.. http://thegrumpyvaper.com/cloupor-mini-may-have-serious-charging-safety-issues/

So yeah, IPV mini or the Sigelei mini.

TinCool

I've retired my Cloupor for the time being. Don't want my hand melting off or my face for that matter.

J Mysterio

Sad (and potentially devastating for Cloupour). Changed my order from Cloupour Mini to another iStick.

Waited nearly 20 days for nothing (FT's wait to ship C M's)!

TinCool

Yeah. I'm thinking the same. Another iStick for me.

jonski

100% no to the cloupor mini , just saw one overheating while just sitting on the counter in my local shop , not even charging and with no atomiser .

Trond

jonski wrote: »

100% no to the cloupor mini , just saw one overheating while just sitting on the counter in my local shop , not even charging and with no atomiser .

:eek: how is that even possible? (i understand how) but for a mass produced item thats shocking.

I posted that link to the grumpyvaper yesterday in the other thread. looks bad for them.

People on fasttech seemed to have a problem with the company as well. Something about poor chipsets in older devices

J Mysterio

jonski wrote: »

100% no to the cloupor mini , just saw one overheating while just sitting on the counter in my local shop , not even charging and with no atomiser .

Serious? What happened? That's ridiculous.

I have to say I was concerned when I saw the electricals etc just have hot glue messily poured on them!

pueblo

I have a Cloupor Mini 30w for sale if anyone is interested

I have just pre-ordered the istick 50w from puremist.co.uk £43.99

jonski

J Mysterio wrote: »

Serious? What happened? That's ridiculous.

I have to say I was concerned when I saw the electricals etc just have hot glue messily poured on them!

He had it inside to show to me , he already knew it was overheating , he picked it up and said " look , you can see now , feel how hot it is " , and it wasn't charging and didn't have an atomiser on it , just a battery inside , with the back cover off . Pulled the battery out straight away .

Feel sorry for him as he is ahead of the curve with this one , having it in stock here before most , good price , and now they are going to be impossible to sell .

J Mysterio

jonski wrote: »

Feel sorry for him as he is ahead of the curve with this one , having it in stock here before most , good price , and now they are going to be impossible to sell .

Yeah... That really blows hopefully he can return them.

pueblo

An update on my Cloupor mini...I contacted the vendor (iVapour.co.uk) and they have agreed to take it back and give me credit, which I think is very fair.

I just don't feel comfortable using something that could meltdown at any moment!

jonski

IPV mini arrived this morning , my 18650 battery won't fit into it

TinCool

pueblo wrote: »

An update on my Cloupor mini...I contacted the vendor (iVapour.co.uk) and they have agreed to take it back and give me credit, which I think is very fair.

I just don't feel comfortable using something that could meltdown at any moment!

I've contacted inovapours.co.uk. Hopefully, they'll take it back. After all, the thing isn't fit for purpose.

accaguest

jonski wrote: »

IPV mini arrived this morning , my 18650 battery won't fit into it

Do nipple tops not fit, I haven't tried one yet. Jeez it's big enough, taller than my Papas clone, that would be v poor designing.

I like this device a lot though, best I've had tbh. The Chinese stuff really seems to be coming along in leaps and bounds, Cloupor f ups aside.

jonski

accaguest wrote: »

Do nipple tops not fit, I haven't tried one yet. Jeez it's big enough, taller than my Papas clone, that would be v poor designing.

I like this device a lot though, best I've had tbh. The Chinese stuff really seems to be coming along in leaps and bounds, Cloupor f ups aside.

The battery I have already is thicker than most it's a 3000mAh and I don't remember the brand , it fits the vamo fine so it belongs to that now . I got a Sony Vtc 4 and have it in the IPV since Wednesday around noon and I still have 2/3 left in the battery . I am really amazed at how impressed I am with the IPV , I assumed I would just see it as a slight improvement on the vamo and something that would be more stable standing on a table but it is so much more . It feels really solid and well made and I would think it would last a long time if minded . For me it is one of the few vaping items that has matched if not exceeded the hype . Next on the list to try is the subtank mini .

Is it the IPV or it being a Sony VTC 4 that's allowing the battery to last so long ? , not really understanding this part .

Trond

TinCool wrote: »

Yeah. I'm thinking the same. Another iStick for me.

The 50W is due to land v shortly by all accounts. I think its available for pre order on some UK websites.

accaguest

@Jonski

Yeah, really well built device, nice heft to it for me.

I read on another forum that Li-po batteries like the istick will be better suited for low wats and 18650s for higher watts but it could be the efficiency of the chip as well, certainly if it's outperforming a Vamo on the same battery. Before it came out I saw someone say there was no way it had both DC and PWM modes, as the chip would need too much work for that but it definitely does.

Apparently thought it'll only cut your battery off when it reaches 3.2volts and this is a lot lower than what most people would recommend, I've seen 3.6 mentioned to maintain your batteries best but not sure how important this is tbh, pretty new to external batteries. I took a battery out with about 50% left on the display and it read 3.76v

TinCool

Trond wrote: »

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The 50W is due to land v shortly by all accounts. I think its available for pre order on some UK websites.

50w is too big for me. I'll stick with the 30w

jonski

Cloupor mini Statement
2015-02-03 17:40:13
Posted in Latest News By
cloupor


To Cloupor mini owners:

We are so sorry to bring some customers any trouble during last few days .

To satisfy the huge market , we worked hard for the large production .
And we actually didn’t control the whole quality system very well at that time.

About 0.1%-0.2% Cloupor mini may have overheat or short circuit or some other different defective problems. This may cause the circuit board melted down,but it will never reach to a ignition point to make other things burn , let alone catch fire.

If yours with the above kind of problem ,be free to email us user@cloupor.com

For the customers do not have any problem until now but worry about if yours with the potential overheat problem,
here is a simple identify way:
Connect a atomizer and press the fire button 15s at 30W(just one time) , if doesn’t show "Too hot" ,that’s a good unit.

We’v found the source of the problem and changed the firmware .For the new batch we shipped from last week ,
no this overheat issues.

Tough time may happen to any companies , we believe a positive attitude will make all things better .
Thanks so much for your support ! And welcome any suggestion!

TBh I find it hard to believe this , if it was only 0.1%-0.2% , then I must be extremely lucky to have seen it happen with my own eyes . I would be worried that they are under-stating problem .

Trond

jonski wrote: »

TBh I find it hard to believe this , if it was only 0.1%-0.2% , then I must be extremely lucky to have seen it happen with my own eyes . I would be worried that they are under-stating problem .

Pretty certain this has happened with a number of their devices in the past. Maybe not identical problems but v similar. A lot of people wouldn't touch the mini originally because of their previous issues.

With so many similar devices out there and a Kanger version coming out v soon they will suffer badly i think.

J Mysterio

Thanks for posting that. To be frank, I find it ****ing disgraceful that they didnt even bother to go to the effort of properly translating that message to English. Surely English speakers represent a significant portion of their market.

I mean, that would cost peanuts to have done by a professional translation/ localisation outfit. Did they just **** it in to Google translate?

Although they probably have fixed the issue on new mini's I wont buy a Cloupor product in the future. I was lucky the one I ordered and payed for at Fasttech could be cancelled due to shipping delays.

accaguest

Cloupor just don't give a f yo!

It may be be defective, it may not be. Try it and see.

"Tough time"!

pueblo

Just got my credit today for the Cloupor mini from ivapour.co.uk. I like their no fuss, no questions asked approach on this. Proper customer service.

accaguest

pueblo wrote: »

Just got my credit today for the Cloupor mini from ivapour.co.uk. I like their no fuss, no questions asked approach on this. Proper customer service.

Quality. I hope they don't get hit too much on this and Cloupor get properly fed over for how they've treated this. Strengthened the 'Chinese crap' stereotype and given ammunition to those looking to bash the industry. Absolute knobs. Maybe our fault a bit for looking for the cheapest price all the time, not sure, but they should NOT be supported at all imo.