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Australia: One Punch Laws

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  • Registered Users Posts: 28,986 ✭✭✭✭end of the road


    The Aussie wrote: »
    It can and does, this new Law takes away any excuse of that they didn't know what they were doing.
    no, it makes more of an issue of it because someone got drunk. its simply a "look at us aren't we great tackling drunkenness" law. you can easily remove drunkenness as an excuse by stating it can't be taken into acount in the courts

    ticking a box on a form does not make you of a religion.



  • Registered Users Posts: 3,328 ✭✭✭conorh91


    So, remind me again: why should being drunk get you a lesser sentence..?
    It doesn't.

    Drink or drug usage is not a defence anywhere in Irish criminal law, and it is not, in itself, a mitigating factor at sentencing.

    Addiction may be considered slightly differently if there is a real prospect of rehabilitation. But this does not apply to someone who just decides to get drunk and punch someone in the head.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,440 ✭✭✭The Aussie


    no, it makes more of an issue of it because someone got drunk. its simply a "look at us aren't we great tackling drunkenness" law. you can easily remove drunkenness as an excuse by stating it can't be taken into acount in the courts

    That probably sounded better in your head or you are not very clear...

    Are they not removing "drunkenness as an excuse" with this Law?

    So what if they are making an issue out of it? (Your faux outrage is humorous here) The more attention it receives the better, if it stops one knucklehead from assaulting someone is that not a bad thing???


  • Registered Users Posts: 28,986 ✭✭✭✭end of the road


    The Aussie wrote: »
    Are they not removing "drunkenness as an excuse" with this Law???

    no, its the wrong type of law. just a simple law that it can't be taken in to mitigation would be much better.
    The Aussie wrote: »
    if it stops one knucklehead from assaulting someone is that not a bad thing???

    jailing someone for longer for punching someone while drunk, then someone who wasn't, is a joke and is an insult to those who died at the hands of someone who punched them but wasn't drunk.

    ticking a box on a form does not make you of a religion.



  • Registered Users Posts: 2,440 ✭✭✭The Aussie


    no, its the wrong type of law. just a simple law that it can't be taken in to mitigation would be much better.

    So it's the wrong sort of Law :confused:

    jailing someone for longer for punching someone while drunk, then someone who wasn't, is a joke and is an insult to those who died at the hands of someone who punched them but wasn't drunk.

    How do you know it would be longer?

    Alcohol is mentioned in a lot of Irish cases how do you know the Judge is not taking that into account, there are a lot of discrepancies in run of the mill cases.

    Here is a good on for you.
    Cronin stressed he had quit alcohol and drugs and was receiving treatment for abusing both.
    (Full story below)

    Why was Alcohol and Drugs even mentioned in this story or even in the Court room? As a shoddy lame arse excuse in a plea for leniency.
    It's used far more than it should.

    So you don't think its a good thing that the attention it receives is a good thing, even if it saves even one person from being assaulted?


    http://www.independent.ie/irish-news/pair-jailed-for-cowardly-attack-that-left-gifted-student-with-brain-damage-25913057.html


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