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Intergration calculating centroid of an area

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,077 ✭✭✭Hedgecutter


    Having another go at this one struggling to finish.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,644 ✭✭✭TheBody


    Long division is what I had in mind for that problem but it seemed a little complicated given the other problems you have done.

    Everything looks ok so far.

    In terms of integrating the hard bit, you have made a good start at it.

    [latex]\int \frac{47}{24(12x-5)}dx=\frac{47}{24}\int \frac{1}{12x-5}dx [/latex]. As you said, we let [latex]u=12x-5[/latex] which will eventually give us that [latex]\frac{du}{12}=dx[/latex]. We can now replace all the x stuff with u stuff. We get:

    [latex]\frac{47}{24}\int \frac{1}{12x-5}dx=\frac{47}{24}\int \frac{1}{u} \frac{du}{12} =\frac{47}{288}\int \frac{1}{u} du=\frac{47}{288}\ln|u|+c=\frac{47}{288}\ln|12x-5|+c[/latex].

    Don't forget to integrate the other bits and put it all together!!






    4,000 posts! Go me!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,077 ✭✭✭Hedgecutter


    Ya difficult one compared to what I have being doing, what to have it fully completed, correct and also understood before I show it to my lecture.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,077 ✭✭✭Hedgecutter


    Latest attempt


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,644 ✭✭✭TheBody


    Latest attempt

    Almost correct!!

    In the very last line, [latex]\int \frac{x}{2}dx=\frac{x^2}{4} [/latex]. Also in the [latex]\ln[/latex] bit you need absolute value signs instead of round brackets like I do in the post above.

    Apart from that it looks ok. Your exposition could do with a little improving but overall it's not too bad.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,077 ✭✭✭Hedgecutter


    TheBody wrote: »
    Almost correct!!

    In the very last line, [latex]\int \frac{x}{2}dx=\frac{x^2}{4} [/latex]. Also in the [latex]\ln[/latex] bit you need absolute value signs instead of round brackets like I do in the post above.

    Apart from that it looks ok. Your exposition could do with a little improving but overall it's not too bad.

    Thanks spotted that x^2/4 of course, silly.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,077 ✭✭✭Hedgecutter


    Calculate root mean square for y=2e^x/2 Range x=0 x=2


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,644 ✭✭✭TheBody


    Calculate root mean square for y=2e^x/2 Range x=0 x=2

    To start, I have no idea what the formula for the root mean square is, so I can only check the calculations you have on the image.

    You made a small mistake. You halved the 4 to get 2 but kept the half. Also, it's considered poor exposition to drop the square root symbol and then put it back in near the end. Keep it in all the time until you actually take the square root. Don't forget the = signs too!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,077 ✭✭✭Hedgecutter


    TheBody wrote: »
    To start, I have no idea what the formula for the root mean square is, so I can only check the calculations you have on the image.

    You made a small mistake. You halved the 4 to get 2 but kept the half. Also, it's considered poor exposition to drop the square root symbol and then put it back in near the end. Keep it in all the time until you actually take the square root. Don't forget the = signs too!!

    Fair enough ill rewrite it with formula. need to get good habits going. cheers


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,644 ✭✭✭TheBody


    Fair enough ill rewrite it with formula. need to get good habits going. cheers

    I'm a bit of a maths nazi when it comes to exposition. I compare it to reading a book without any full stops or comma, etc. You could probably figure out what they are trying to say but it doesn't look very good.

    Also, for yourself, it is much easier to fix any problems if your work is laid out properly.

    Don't mean to bust your chops over it!! :)


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,077 ✭✭✭Hedgecutter


    TheBody wrote: »
    I'm a bit of a maths nazi when it comes to exposition. I compare it to reading a book without any full stops or comma, etc. You could probably figure out what they are trying to say but it doesn't look very good.

    Also, for yourself, it is much easier to fix any problems if your work is laid out properly.

    Don't mean to bust your chops over it!! :)

    Maths nazi:D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,077 ✭✭✭Hedgecutter


    Hope this is better.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,644 ✭✭✭TheBody


    Hope this is better.

    Lovely! I don't have a calculator to hand to check the number bits but everything else is ok.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,077 ✭✭✭Hedgecutter


    TheBody wrote: »
    Lovely! I don't have a calculator to hand to check the number bits but everything else is ok.

    Time for a beer so;) Thanks again.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,644 ✭✭✭TheBody


    Time for a beer so;) Thanks again.

    No problem. Glad I could help.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,077 ✭✭✭Hedgecutter


    Had a go at this one this evening, similar to one I did the other day but what I don't fully understand is choosing the limits.

    here we have 0,3, are the limits always the starting coordinate and the last coordinate on the axis that the area is on?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,644 ✭✭✭TheBody


    Had a go at this one this evening, similar to one I did the other day but what I don't fully understand is choosing the limits.

    here we have 0,3, are the limits always the starting coordinate and the last coordinate on the axis that the area is on?

    Solution looks good.

    Yes, the limits just the x-values from start to finish of the region.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,077 ✭✭✭Hedgecutter


    TheBody wrote: »
    Solution looks good.

    Yes, the limits just the x-values from start to finish of the region.

    Cheers nearly six years of past papers covered in regards calculus. If I can keep going over them I should be ok.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,644 ✭✭✭TheBody


    Cheers nearly six years of past papers covered in regards calculus. If I can keep going over them I should be ok.

    That's good going. It's a lot of work but it does pay off.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,077 ✭✭✭Hedgecutter


    TheBody wrote: »
    That's good going. It's a lot of work but it does pay off.

    Ya, very happy with it, probability next. not too bad in class but can be tricky I think.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,644 ✭✭✭TheBody


    Ya, very happy with it, probability next. not too bad in class but can be tricky I think.

    It can be very tricky. For me, it is very boring too. I just never had an interest probability or statistics for that matter.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,077 ✭✭✭Hedgecutter


    TheBody wrote: »
    It can be very tricky. For me, it is very boring too. I just never had an interest probability or statistics for that matter.

    Lector says the exact same. Lining up a few maths grinds to get me over the line. might spend a night or two on probability, worth 10%.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,644 ✭✭✭TheBody


    It's worth spending some time on it. Even if it turns out your not great at it, you may pick up a few marks. They all add up!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,077 ✭✭✭Hedgecutter


    Wondering if I'm right with this turning point question ?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,644 ✭✭✭TheBody


    Wondering if I'm right with this turning point question ?

    Looks good to me. The only comment I would make is you are lacking any explanation about what you are doing. For example, you used the second derivative to decide which points were local max/min but you didn't actually say which is which!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,077 ✭✭✭Hedgecutter


    TheBody wrote: »
    Looks good to me. The only comment I would make is you are lacking any explanation about what you are doing. For example, you used the second derivative to decide which points were local max/min but you didn't actually say which is which!


    Fair comment I'll sort that out.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,077 ✭✭✭Hedgecutter


    Not sure if I posted this intergration question before but I can't remember how I did the areas I circled in red. Where did 6/4 come from and the same in the last step (6/4)(3/2 e^2x+c)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,644 ✭✭✭TheBody


    You are using the fact that for k a constant, [latex]\int e^{kx}dx=\frac{1}{k}e^{kx}+c [/latex]

    The bit circled isn't qutie right. Looking at the bit directly above the circled bit:

    [latex]\int \frac{1}{2}e^{2x} 6 dx=3\int e^{2x}dx=\frac{3}{2}e^{2x}+c.[/latex]


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,077 ✭✭✭Hedgecutter


    Find the area by intergration I'm curious why the sign changed to a minus in the part I've circled red near the bottom. 7-x-x^2-1dx. Previous line its a plus one. Can't remember why this happened.
    Is it a mistake ?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,644 ✭✭✭TheBody


    Find the area by intergration I'm curious why the sign changed to a minus in the part I've circled red near the bottom. 7-x-x^2-1dx. Previous line its a plus one. Can't remember why this happened.
    Is it a mistake ?

    It changed sign because you multiplied the stuff in the brackets by the minus sign.


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