Violence in Games on Pat Kenny show in a minute

Ol' Donie

Or so he just said!

Retr0gamer

Here's the quick answer to violence in videogames: Be better parents and stop blaming your **** parenting skills on scapegoats.

o1s1n

Retr0gamer wrote: »

Here's the quick answer to violence in videogames: Be better parents and stop blaming your **** parenting skills on scapegoats.

Leave Goat Simulator alone!

super_furry

Parents educate yourselves, be aware what you're letting your children play and there will be no issue whatsoever.

Ol' Donie

Seemed to be a very reasonable piece.

Games aren't bad, it's other crap that causes the problems, was about the gist of it.

Mr E

Yep, wasn't a bad news item in fairness. Common sense for a change.

Randall Floyd

He did an incredibly positive piece yesterday chatting to Eimear Noone the composer about an event she wants to hold in Dublin in April, didn't take him long to return to form then, "won't someone think of the children" etc.
Seems like it wasn't that bad then, could we have finally turned a corner?

Ol' Donie

In a weird round about way, articles about games inspiring violence usually inspire me to want to play games.

Plus I have fond memories of GTA at Christmas.

richymcdermott

you know what irritates me on the subject of violent videogames is the scapegoating non sense that has gone on for years and still to this very day it still continuing.

Elvis was known as music your kid should never listen to or the Beatles was the mark of the devil , how Marilyn Manson somehow had more of a influence on two kids in america than years of " great parenting " from there parents.
somehow batman the dark knight was sole target to blame for the cinema shootings and no direct blame should ever be taken to the individual or individuals.

I remember 4fm were talking about a 4 year old shot there relative with a shotgun and to blame was grand theft auto 5 cause shocking there was a console and the game in the living room and that somehow connected all the pieces to together. So instead of asking the real question as any person with any common sense or IQ would ask what was a 4 year old doing with a fire arm the topic was brought up videogames are to blame because how would a child know how to use a gun and know how to point and click one trigger on the rifle ??????

We all know its bull**** but somehow you are suppose to brainwash the public to look far away in the distance to the problem and put blame to someone else. are we to blame religion for john lennon death or the individual who shot him ?

somehow call of duty should make more headlines for being so violent yet its the most cartoonish look of war compared to real world war that its bred into our way of living since the dawn of time.

parents are okay given there sons toy guns from 2 euro shops to play cops and robbers and mimicking shooting people yet play a game that has a rating system OMGAWDVIDEOGAMEVIOLENCE!!!

Retr0gamer

All anyone needs do when this topic comes up is mention the Byron report, which is the biggest scientific study into the effects of violent videogames on people and funded by the UK government. It found absolutely no links to violence and beahvioural or psychological problems. Cold hard science right there.

richymcdermott

Retr0gamer wrote: »

All anyone needs do when this topic comes up is mention the Byron report, which is the biggest scientific study into the effects of violent videogames on people and funded by the UK government. It found absolutely no links to violence and beahvioural or psychological problems. Cold hard science right there.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lJZNVGpuQ7o

Grumpypants

Games don't make you violent but they are intense stimulants and are addictive, so can cause problems for kids that have addictive tendencies or are prone to violent outbursts. Mix a very unhealthy lifestyle and diet where kids overdose regularly on sugar, caffeine and chemicals, with a lack of exercise to burn off the energy and you have a time bomb.

Give any kid a huge amounts of stimulants like, sugar and caffeine and then show them content that is designed to be hugely visually, mentally and emotionally stimulating over extended periods of time and it will have an impact.

I just caught the end of the piece on the radio but what i got from it was pretty normal, some games are more violent than others and parents really should monitor the games their kids play & not give into peer pressure. Set time limits on the console before it becomes a problem. He also spoke about the benefits of gaming too.

mrkiscool2

Grumpypants wrote: »

Games don't make you violent but they are intense stimulants and are addictive, so can cause problems for kids that have addictive tendencies or are prone to violent outbursts. Mix a very unhealthy lifestyle and diet where kids overdose regularly on sugar, caffeine and chemicals, with a lack of exercise to burn off the energy and you have a time bomb.

Give any kid a huge amounts of stimulants like, sugar and caffeine and then show them content that is designed to be hugely visually, mentally and emotionally stimulating over extended periods of time and it will have an impact.

I just caught the end of the piece on the radio but what i got from it was pretty normal, some games are more violent than others and parents really should monitor the games their kids play & not give into peer pressure. Set time limits on the console before it becomes a problem. He also spoke about the benefits of gaming too.

Read every study ever done into video game violence. They don't just cherry-pick the nicest, normalest kids for the research. They get a wide and representative mix of people, from kids who are perfectly fine to those who have things like ADHD and other issues. Video Games violence and real life violence have never been linked directly. End of story.

Grumpypants

mrkiscool2 wrote: »

Read every study ever done into video game violence. They don't just cherry-pick the nicest, normalest kids for the research. They get a wide and representative mix of people, from kids who are perfectly fine to those who have things like ADHD and other issues. Video Games violence and real life violence have never been linked directly. End of story.

I don't have time to read every study ever, I will just use known scientific facts on how stimulants impact the brain on a chemical level.

If you think playing games has zero impact on you or anyone else then you are wrong. Show me a single gamer who hasn't smashed a controller, or rage quit a game and i'll show you a Sociopath.

Have you ever found yourself shouting at the ref in FIFA? That's not a normal thing to do is it? To shout at an group of pixels on a screen that can't hear you or respond to you.

I was playing GTA last night and the PS4 got a black screen for about 3 seconds and I got killed half way through a mission. You would have thought someone came in pulled down their pants and made a big mess on my sitting room floor I was so disgusted with it. That is not normal, but that is the very real impact games have on a person.

Games are a cerebral stimulant and trigger an emotional response just like every other form of artwork (perhaps even more so). They can make you feel happy, sad, angry, upset, afraid, frustrated.

Does this translate into turning a normal person into a violent person? No, but can it turn a normal kid into a temporarily frustrated one? Yes it can.

If this is repeated over long periods of time then it will have an impact, stress is one of the worst things for your physical and mental health. Being under stress as a kid for long periods of time will have a impact and can lead to all sorts of problems.

johnny_ultimate

Do people genuinely smash controllers out of frustration? I hoped that was always light-hearted hyperbole. I can confidently state I have never been so angered by a game that I even remotely felt the need to throw an expensive controller.

Grumpypants

ThisRegard

johnny_ultimate wrote: »

Do people genuinely smash controllers out of frustration? I hoped that was always light-hearted hyperbole. I can confidently state I have never been so angered by a game that I even remotely felt the need to throw an expensive controller.

Back in the days of Atari and C64s, we cost our parents a small fortune in replacing controllers, not much in the way of save points back then.

Varik

It's up on the site now.

23rd December 2014 - The Pat Kenny Show Part_2

Starts off at ~11:50 minutes.

richymcdermott

I have played and beaten games like sonic 06 that pitt falls , glitches and everything you can imagine and I have never smashed , broken or rage quit a a game ever in my life.

even in dark souls 2 I died over 600 times and still no anger or frustration and laughed and had a great time with.

Retr0gamer

Grumpypants wrote: »

I don't have time to read every study ever, I will just use known scientific facts on how stimulants impact the brain on a chemical level.

If you think playing games has zero impact on you or anyone else then you are wrong. Show me a single gamer who hasn't smashed a controller, or rage quit a game and i'll show you a Sociopath.

Have you ever found yourself shouting at the ref in FIFA? That's not a normal thing to do is it? To shout at an group of pixels on a screen that can't hear you or respond to you.

I was playing GTA last night and the PS4 got a black screen for about 3 seconds and I got killed half way through a mission. You would have thought someone came in pulled down their pants and made a big mess on my sitting room floor I was so disgusted with it. That is not normal, but that is the very real impact games have on a person.

Games are a cerebral stimulant and trigger an emotional response just like every other form of artwork (perhaps even more so). They can make you feel happy, sad, angry, upset, afraid, frustrated.

Does this translate into turning a normal person into a violent person? No, but can it turn a normal kid into a temporarily frustrated one? Yes it can.

If this is repeated over long periods of time then it will have an impact, stress is one of the worst things for your physical and mental health. Being under stress as a kid for long periods of time will have a impact and can lead to all sorts of problems.

Everything you mention there isn't a result of the game making you do these things but you as a person. The games aren't turning you into a controller flinging, pixel verbal abuser that's who you are as a person. I definitely wouldn't consider those responses normal or the norm either.

Basically you poke the bee's nest the bee's will respond as they always will, the poking doesn't just suddenly turn them violent.

Also you say you are basing these assertions on scientific facts when scientific fact says totally otherwise.

mrkiscool2

Grumpypants wrote: »

I don't have time to read every study ever, I will just use known scientific facts on how stimulants impact the brain on a chemical level.

If you think playing games has zero impact on you or anyone else then you are wrong. Show me a single gamer who hasn't smashed a controller, or rage quit a game and i'll show you a Sociopath.

Have you ever found yourself shouting at the ref in FIFA? That's not a normal thing to do is it? To shout at an group of pixels on a screen that can't hear you or respond to you.

I was playing GTA last night and the PS4 got a black screen for about 3 seconds and I got killed half way through a mission. You would have thought someone came in pulled down their pants and made a big mess on my sitting room floor I was so disgusted with it. That is not normal, but that is the very real impact games have on a person.

Games are a cerebral stimulant and trigger an emotional response just like every other form of artwork (perhaps even more so). They can make you feel happy, sad, angry, upset, afraid, frustrated.

Does this translate into turning a normal person into a violent person? No, but can it turn a normal kid into a temporarily frustrated one? Yes it can.

If this is repeated over long periods of time then it will have an impact, stress is one of the worst things for your physical and mental health. Being under stress as a kid for long periods of time will have a impact and can lead to all sorts of problems.

I don't even think you have the slighest clue about what people are going through. Also, I just want to point out that in essence called yourself a Sociopath. Going to let that one sink in for a while.

Firstly, a person who smashes their control in rage is not a sociopath. Do they have anger issues? Most likely but having anger issues is not the only symptom of a sociopath. To even compare the two is beyond belief. Angry gamers smash controllers, some angry people are sociopaths so logically not all gamers who smash their controllers are sociopaths. Just an absolutely awful thing to say.

As for shouting at the screen you could make that point to anyone who watches sport. What good will shouting at a TV screen get you with anything? Nowhere, it's just venting frustration a little bit. We all do it, it's part of the society we live in. It's better to shout at the screen then to keep all that frustration bottled up.

As for repeated stress on kids, I don't think that's it at all. In fact, gaming has been shown to be very good at teaching kids how to deal with failure as well as increasing their hand-eye co-ordination. It's a trial and error thing and kids have to learn from their mistakes. It's very good for them. I've never heard of anyone having mental trauma after playing a video game. I think all your points (apart from gaming being a stimulant, that I can't disagree with) are not only all taken to extremes but you are also thinking far too much about it. When you put your controller down and leave the screen, you don't still feel stressed (unlike with real life problems which are harder to walk away from).

Ol' Donie

johnny_ultimate wrote: »

Do people genuinely smash controllers out of frustration? I hoped that was always light-hearted hyperbole. I can confidently state I have never been so angered by a game that I even remotely felt the need to throw an expensive controller.

I've done it one single time.

Christmas eve, about 6 years ago. Vice City, that stupid f***in bank level when the f***in eejits won't get in the bleedin car.

Grrrrrrr!!!!!

lertsnim

Grumpypants wrote: »

Show me a single gamer who hasn't smashed a controller, or rage quit a game and i'll show you a Sociopath.

There must be plenty of sociopaths going around.

People also scream at the referee when watching the Premier League or a GAA match on tv. Should these be considered causes of violence in society? Of course not. To portion the same thing on video games is ridiculous.

Grumpypants

Retr0gamer wrote: »

Everything you mention there isn't a result of the game making you do these things but you as a person. The games aren't turning you into a controller flinging, pixel verbal abuser that's who you are as a person. I definitely wouldn't consider those responses normal or the norm either.

Basically you poke the bee's nest the bee's will respond as they always will, the poking doesn't just suddenly turn them violent.

Also you say you are baing these assertions on scientific facts when scientific fact says totally otherwise.

I think it is pretty much non disputable at this stage that stimulants have an impact on chemicals in the brain? Which in turn have an impact on behavior. Otherwise cocaine wouldn't be so popular.

Links234

Grumpypants wrote: »

Show me a single gamer who hasn't smashed a controller, or rage quit a game and i'll show you a Sociopath.

Huh? Those two things are miles apart. I've never smashed a controller but I've quit a game out of frustration, the latter seems like a perfectly normal thing to do

Retr0gamer

Grumpypants wrote: »

I think it is pretty much non disputable at this stage that stimulants have an impact on chemicals in the brain? Which in turn have an impact on behavior. Otherwise cocaine wouldn't be so popular.

Videogames aren't chemical stimulants. Totally different things and not comparable. Videogames would be classed as environmental, at the very most they could be trigger inducers but again all scientific publications have shown very little evidence of this.

Grumpypants

lertsnim wrote: »

There must be plenty of sociopaths going around.

People also scream at the referee when watching the Premier League or a GAA match on tv. Should these be considered causes of violence in society? Of course not. To portion the same thing on video games is ridiculous.

Qualities of a Sociopath - Lack of real emotion in response to events.

I'm saying that if you never get an emotional response from playing games good or bad then there is something wrong.

Do you think it would be normal to sit for hours and hours playing a game if it gave you no enjoyment, if it was just blankly pressing buttons without any reward.

Games trigger emotions, if they trigger emotions in you that is normal.

Have you ever played a really intense difficult mission where you had to be really locked into it and afterwards found your jaw was sore from clenching it, or your hands sweaty.

For most this is an occasional thing and they will get up and shake it off after a few minutes. But if you are putting a kid under that kind of stress that yields those results for hours and hour a day. Then don't tell me that has zero impact.

Grumpypants

Links234 wrote: »

Huh? Those two things are miles apart. I've never smashed a controller but I've quit a game out of frustration, the latter seems like a perfectly normal thing to do

Show me a single gamer who hasn't smashed a controller, or rage quit a game and i'll show you a Sociopath.

It is normal, you are normal. Something in you was triggered that made you have an emotional reaction to stand up, turn off the console and walk away.

FutureGuy

johnny_ultimate wrote: »

Do people genuinely smash controllers out of frustration? I hoped that was always light-hearted hyperbole. I can confidently state I have never been so angered by a game that I even remotely felt the need to throw an expensive controller.

I broke two xbox controllers in the space of 2 weeks playing FIFA 10. You're angry, you have it in your hand, wall.

That game was an utter joke thanks to online balancing. You could have 23 shots on target against a weaker opponent who will get one shot on goal and win 1-0.

I don't play the game online anymore.

Grumpypants

Retr0gamer wrote: »

Videogames aren't chemical stimulants. Totally different things and not comparable. Videogames would be classed as environmental, at the very most they could be trigger inducers but again all scientific publications have shown very little evidence of this.

Again just so there is no misunderstanding I am not talking about any link between games and real world violence, there is no link.

I am talking about the impact of being under stress for extended periods of time. Which has been proven time and time again to have a negative impact on both mental and physical health.

COYVB

Grumpypants wrote: »

Show me a single gamer who hasn't smashed a controller, or rage quit a game and i'll show you a Sociopath.

I must be a sociopath so. And so much most of my mates who play games. My father too. And my brother. And my wife. Because I can safely say I've only ever known one person who has smashed a controller, and none who would quit a game because they're losing (at least that I'm aware of, I've got no idea how they play against other people)

Kimbot

I have never smashed a controller or rage quit a game

Now i know someone that within a week bought 4 ps3 controllers cos they got frustrated and smashed 4 pads against the wall/ground haha The same person has gone through at least 8 controllers in total on the ps3.

Grumpypants

COYVB wrote: »

I must be a sociopath so. And so much most of my mates who play games. My father too. And my brother. And my wife. Because I can safely say I've only ever known one person who has smashed a controller, and none who would quit a game because they're losing (at least that I'm aware of, I've got no idea how they play against other people)

In all the years of playing games you have never once got stuck on a mission or died and then turned off the game? Even on Mega Man or NES Star Wars?

I do it the whole time, I have lost count of the number of times I have turned off Candy crush and vowed never to play it again only to start it back up ten mins later for one more try.

Retr0gamer

Grumpypants wrote: »

Again just so there is no misunderstanding I am not talking about any link between games and real world violence, there is no link.

I am talking about the impact of being under stress for extended periods of time. Which has been proven time and time again to have a negative impact on both mental and physical health.

If you are letting games stress you out it points to deeper issues and isn't a result of the videogames either. I'm sorry but your arguments aren't backed up in anyway by sound scientific knowledge or facts.

cherryghost

I don't think I've ever smashed something, but I've sure hell almost done it countless times. Bottled it all up though. Just after listening to the playback. I've mixed feelings on the piece. On one hand I'm glad Video Games were generally painted in a good way, on the other hand I wasn't fully convinced that the studies description of video games were accurate.

Grumpypants

Retr0gamer wrote: »

If you are letting games stress you out it points to deeper issues and isn't a result of the videogames either. I'm sorry but your arguments aren't backed up in anyway by sound scientific knowledge or facts.

Maybe you play games in this emotionless bubble where you just stare blankly at the screen pressing buttons without having any reaction to what you are experiencing in game, but I don't think that is the norm for the majority of players and sounds terribly boring.

I have experienced, and spoken to a lot of players who get scared playing survival horror games for example, and when they get to the end of a mission they breath a huge sigh of relief because they had been worried about the scary alien/monster/ghost killing them. They might have an increased heart rate, increased skin temperature, sweaty hands, tight jaw, tense back or shoulders, sore thumbs. This is why quiet often I will play for an hour or two then need to take a break, get up and do something else or get a cup of tea. If I was in that state for ten hours a day 7 days a week I am sure it would have a impact.

But you are saying this is not actually due to the game being scary, as the game is not scary it is a much deeper personal issue that is scarring me???? Maybe I should do some counseling to see if I have suppressed any Zenomorph related tragedies as a kid that is manifesting itself as stress while playing Alien Isolation.

Retr0gamer

Grumpypants wrote: »

Maybe you play games in this emotionless bubble where you just stare blankly at the screen pressing buttons without having any reaction to what you are experiencing in game, but I don't think that is the norm for the majority of players and sounds terribly boring.

I have experienced, and spoken to a lot of players who get scared playing survival horror games for example, and when they get to the end of a mission they breath a huge sigh of relief because they had been worried about the scary alien/monster/ghost killing them. They might have an increased heart rate, increased skin temperature, sweaty hands, tight jaw, tense back or shoulders, sore thumbs. This is why quiet often I will play for an hour or two then need to take a break, get up and do something else or get a cup of tea. If I was in that state for ten hours a day 7 days a week I am sure it would have a impact.

But you are saying this is not actually due to the game being scary, as the game is not scary it is a personal issue that is scarring them????

Strawman argument and no to the last question. They are all normal responses to those situations but something like smashing a controller is way over the top and if you smash the controller it's because you are the type of person to smash a controller not that the game turned you into a controller smasher. That's the difference right there. Someone that smashes a controller is probably the type of person to throw a tool around or punch something if they are frustrated in other walks of life. Videogames aren't going to change the behaviour of any normal person and any preceived behavioural changes are as a result of underlying conditions that are already present. And well that's what all the extensive scientific research points to.

lertsnim

Grumpypants wrote: »

Qualities of a Sociopath - Lack of real emotion in response to events.

I'm saying that if you never get an emotional response from playing games good or bad then there is something wrong.

Do you think it would be normal to sit for hours and hours playing a game if it gave you no enjoyment, if it was just blankly pressing buttons without any reward.

Games trigger emotions, if they trigger emotions in you that is normal.

Have you ever played a really intense difficult mission where you had to be really locked into it and afterwards found your jaw was sore from clenching it, or your hands sweaty.

For most this is an occasional thing and they will get up and shake it off after a few minutes. But if you are putting a kid under that kind of stress that yields those results for hours and hour a day. Then don't tell me that has zero impact.

Someone who smashes a controller due to a game would probably smash something else in another environment. And that level of violence is nothing like someone rage quitting.

I've been playing Dust: An Elysian Tale for the last two hours and I am stuck. I turned it off as I was fed up trying and failing at the same point. If we are to take what you are saying as gospel then I turned off the game out of frustration and annoyance. Except that isn't why. This was merely a time saving exercise as I have other things that need to be done. it wasn't an emotional response like you are suggesting it would be.

If you say that these are the traits of a sociopath then I think you need to study some psychology.

Gbear

lertsnim wrote: »

Someone who smashes a controller due to a game would probably smash something else in another environment.

Definitely.

It takes every ounce of my being not to tear down the extractor unit above my hob every time I whack my head off it.

Agricola

I have totaled a couple of playstation controllers back in the day! PES master league could be brutal and I often came a cropper against a last minute AI goal. Whole seasons hung in the balance and were lost!
Thankfully I have mellowed with age and would like to think 33 year old would not behave in that manner!

(although I havent played PES in years!)

m5ex9oqjawdg2i

Grumpypants wrote: »

I don't have time to read every study ever, I will just use known scientific facts on how stimulants impact the brain on a chemical level.

If you think playing games has zero impact on you or anyone else then you are wrong. Show me a single gamer who hasn't smashed a controller, or rage quit a game and i'll show you a Sociopath.

Have you ever found yourself shouting at the ref in FIFA? That's not a normal thing to do is it? To shout at an group of pixels on a screen that can't hear you or respond to you.

I was playing GTA last night and the PS4 got a black screen for about 3 seconds and I got killed half way through a mission. You would have thought someone came in pulled down their pants and made a big mess on my sitting room floor I was so disgusted with it. That is not normal, but that is the very real impact games have on a person.

Games are a cerebral stimulant and trigger an emotional response just like every other form of artwork (perhaps even more so). They can make you feel happy, sad, angry, upset, afraid, frustrated.

Does this translate into turning a normal person into a violent person? No, but can it turn a normal kid into a temporarily frustrated one? Yes it can.

If this is repeated over long periods of time then it will have an impact, stress is one of the worst things for your physical and mental health. Being under stress as a kid for long periods of time will have a impact and can lead to all sorts of problems.

Grumpypants wrote: »

I think it is pretty much non disputable at this stage that stimulants have an impact on chemicals in the brain? Which in turn have an impact on behavior. Otherwise cocaine wouldn't be so popular.

Your arguments are fultile dude, really. Some would believe that games have absolutely zero influence on mankind. Somehow we can only be influenced by everything else, but game :rolleyes:

mrkiscool2

Arian Wailing Wiretap wrote: »

Your arguments are fultile dude, really. Some would believe that games have absolutely zero influence on mankind. Somehow we can only be influenced by everything else, but game :rolleyes:

Ah right. Because all those studies have proved that gaming really does have an effect on how violent or sexist you are, right? :rolleyes: Look, I'm not saying gaming doesn't have effects. But I don't know a single BAD effect gaming has. It can open your eyes to things you never thought of, or see something in a completely different light (a reason Spec Ops:The Line is one of the greatest games ever). But there is no evidence that gaming can make you more violent or misogynistic than you already are.

Pac1Man

mrkiscool2 wrote: »

It can open your eyes to things you never thought of, or see something in a completely different light (a reason Spec Ops:The Line is one of the greatest games ever). But there is no evidence that gaming can make you more violent or misogynistic than you already are.

Ok, everyone needs to calm down.

mrkiscool2

Pac1Man wrote: »

Ok, everyone needs to calm down.

I meant in terms of story-telling haha. It's an ok game but the way it makes you feel absolutely horrified after playing it is amazing.

Pac1Man

mrkiscool2 wrote: »

I meant in terms of story-telling haha. It's an ok game but the way it makes you feel absolutely horrified after playing it is amazing.

Just joking. :pac: It's one of my favourite games of last gen. An Apocalypse Now themed game set in modern Dubai is just a recipe of success.

Terrlock

I know a young man, 22, plays wow all the time. still lives at home with is parents, doesn't have a job, has no intention of getting a job.

Won't interact with any one at home at all, won't even come out to have dinner with the family...just stays in his room playing wow 24/7.

Barely sleeps.

Parents won't do anything about it as they don't want to stress him out as he has huge anger issues if they try and get him to do anything else.

They reckon he will eventually grow out of it...mean while he is getting older and missing out on real life...like going to college getting an education, or starting to work to earn a living. He has no other desires then to just play wow.


This game isn't violent but shows how games can become as addictive as any chemical drug and take complete control over your life if allowed to do so.

should it be banned as a result: certainly not. But some people need help a lot of help to get out of these addictions.

As with any addiction they can have a huge impact on all aspects of our lives.

Smegball

I get quite a rage playing FIFA but anything else no. FIFA can be infuriating!

SureYWouldntYa

I got GTA San Andreas for my 10th birthday, my parents hadn't a clue what it was about.

Thing is, I turned out relatively okay and don't go round shooting prostitute etc

Terrlock

Just because computer games show violence doesn't mean that it's going to influence people into committing a violent crime.

I think someone that was committing a crime already had a criminal nature and possibly in a court of law, in order to get some time off their sentence may try and say....computer games made me do it so It's not might fault sort of thing as I'm mentally challenged.

I think the addictive nature of games can be far more of an issue for a lot of people. However most people know some sort of balance in their lives.

However I do wonder do computer games play a role in desensitizing people to the current growing level of violence in the world.

We don't get as many people protesting at acts of violence, terrorism or war as we used to in the past before computer games where around.

If people see injustice happening they kinda ignore it and continue on in there own lives, they just let it happen.

Now this may largely lie also with the media, but computer games is also another form of media and I wonder how much of a part is plays in that even on a subconscious level.

mikom

It's widely known that Genghis khan platinumed GTA V on PS3 and PS4.

K.O.Kiki

Wow, it sure is 2005 in here.