School Children should visit abattoirs to see how we get meat on our table?

mariano rivera

I read an article there last week about vegetarianism etc.

The author argued that school children should visit abattoirs to see how their chicken, burgers end up on their plate

In essence he was saying that we hide this from children and don't allow them to make up their own mind


I think it's a good idea


I gave up meat 2 years mostly as I think as most meat we eat is rubbish

Processed, imported, full of chemicals etc.

Venus In Furs

Flood of Simpsons references to follow (that episode was even on this evening on Sky).

jacksie66

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The Backwards Man

When I was a kid the butcher down the road used to go around the farms killing animals for Christmas and the like. We used to love being allowed out to lend a hand.

mikom

mariano rivera wrote: »

I read an article there last week about vegetarianism etc.

The author argued that school children should visit abattoirs to see how their chicken, burgers end up on their plate

In essence he was saying that we hide this from children and don't allow them to make up their own mind


I think it's a good idea

Will they be wearing their sweatshop manufactured trainers on this trip?

Filmer Paradise

I think they'd be better served by being advised to buy fresh meat from their local Butchers.

This is what I tell my kids Folks.

michael999999

I take my kids to Cheltenham every year.

So they know where there burgers come from!

shruikan2553

Ah gees, these vegetarian threads are more common than dole threads these days.

They'll find out eventually, no need to send 5 year old timmy to watch animals being killed when he thinks Rex and Goldie are away on a farm.

Bongalongherb

But does it taste nice.

IsaacWunder

Venus In Furs wrote: »

Flood of Simpsons references to follow (that episode was even on this evening on Sky).

It's a classic episode.

dodderangler

Heard this Shiite from a vegan before but same person also has her children christened as Catholics.
Why didn't she let her kids make up her own mind.
Vegans are full of Shiite.
Il keep eating my meat thank you very much.

The Peanut

mariano rivera wrote: »

I gave up meat 2 years mostly as I think as most meat we eat is rubbish

Processed, imported, full of chemicals etc.

You're buying your meat in the wrong place. Find a local butcher, talk to him.

Copa Mundial

Nah, I don't think there's any need.

Sure it's important to let kids know where our food comes from, but leave them their innocence for a while.

MythicalMadMan

Should we also bring them to farms to see vegetables been killed and then been throw into the back of a van

Atlantic Dawn

They should also go see a veg farmer to see all the muck, dirt and stray insects the vegatables are grown in.

Tin Foil Hat

mariano rivera wrote: »

I read an article there last week about vegetarianism etc.

The author argued that school children should visit abattoirs to see how their chicken, burgers end up on their plate

In essence he was saying that we hide this from children and don't allow them to make up their own mind


I think it's a good idea


I gave up meat 2 years mostly as I think as most meat we eat is rubbish

Processed, imported, full of chemicals etc.

Proper cuts of meat aren't processed. Those other two words apply to fruit and veg as much as they do to meat. Actually more so. This country is a massive producer of meat; and we are far fussier about the chemicals we feed our livestock than we are about what we spray on our crops.

The Backwards Man

Atlantic Dawn wrote: »

They should also go see a veg farmer to see all the muck, dirt and stray insects the vegatables are grown in.

And the rats, don't forget the rat, scurrying and pissing and gnawing all over them. I love showing that to city folk.:)

Dont call me Shirley

Best arguement against veganatarianism I ever heard goes like this. A true veganatarianist would never turn on a light bulb for fear of killing moths, would never stand on the grass for fear of killing worms, would never get into bed for fear of a bedbug massacre and so on......

Venus In Furs

Why do some people feel so threatened by vegetarians? I just continue to eat meat and let them not, nothing more to it really IMO.

Bongalongherb

If any of you folk were starving to death I'm sure you would eat anything. Good lean meat is good for the muscles. It will put hair on your chest, not a good thing for women though

The Backwards Man

Venus In Furs wrote: »

Why do some people feel so threatened by vegetarians? I just continue to eat meat and let them not, nothing more to it really IMO.

It's the juicing, something very vampiric about it. :P

MadsL

How do you know someone is vegan.


They tell you.

Tin Foil Hat

Venus In Furs wrote: »

Why do some people feel so threatened by vegetarians? I just continue to eat meat and let them not, nothing more to it really IMO.

You don't need to feel threatened by them to disagree with them on a discussion board. That line about meat being, "Processed, imported, full of chemicals", is a bunch of crap, for example.

Ted_YNWA

the more vegetarians there are, means the more meat for me.

Tail Docker

Pfft, good luck getting the kids up out of the bed for that..

The Peanut

Brother-in-law is a farmer/butcher. On second date with my sister, he showed her the new abbatoir they had installed. My sister wasn't overly phased by it as we came from a rural enough background. He told her years later that the abbatoir was his token second date when he didn't want to see a girl again and before her, it always worked.

DeadHand

It's a moot point.

What with health and safety and insurance considerations school children wouldn't be allowed anywhere near an abattoir as part of a school outing type deal.

Singly, they shouldn't either but I'm sure it does happen that some come along with their farmer parents and get in for a peek.

It'd be mostly rural kids who'd have had a glimpse of the inner workings of an abattoir and they'd lack the Enid Blyton style fantasies of how the countryside actually works that blight the more self-righteously ignorant urbanites anyway so I doubt any would be put off their perfectly healthy, delicious and moral meat.

Bongalongherb

Can we not all get along together I say ? Well, my meat and vegetables are getting along just fine mind you, just like peas in a pod.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rfg7Wqg9czo

The Backwards Man

Ugh . . . carrots:mad:

Vegetables are supposed to be green.

Bongalongherb

The Backwards Man wrote: »

Ugh . . . carrots:mad:

Vegetables are supposed to be green.

Huh ? eat your vegetables or you're grounded.

The Peanut

The Backwards Man wrote: »

Ugh . . . carrots:mad:

Vegetables are supposed to be green.

Spuds, carrots, parsnips, turnips!!!

Thought you were a rabid, meat and veg Irish bogger? (Like me)

The Backwards Man

Bongalongherb wrote: »

Huh ? eat your vegetables or you're grounded.

Traumatic experience involving baby carrots and HP sauce when I was a wain. Never got over it.

the_syco

mariano rivera wrote: »

In essence he was saying that we hide this from children and don't allow them to make up their own mind

Ye gonna show them the sweatshops that make their shoes whilst yer at it?

The Backwards Man

The Peanut wrote: »

Spuds, carrots, parsnips, turnips!!!

Thought you were a rabid, meat and veg Irish bogger? (Like me)

Love my spuds, but I consider them colourless and not really a vegetable.. Anything else, only if it's green, as explained above.

The Peanut

The Backwards Man wrote: »

Love my spuds, but I consider them colourless and not really a vegetable.. Anything else, only if it's green, as explained above.

The Irish staple of meat, spuds, swiss chard and spinach.

Bongalongherb

What do you think of the little cabbage bastards ? brussels sprouts ? their green.

Tin Foil Hat

The Backwards Man wrote: »

Traumatic experience involving baby carrots and HP sauce when I was a wain. Never got over it.

Baby carrots are an abomination. Fresh carrots are the world's finest vegetable. Roasted, boiled, pureed, raw. There's nothing you can't do with a fresh carrot that isn't great.

The Backwards Man

The Peanut wrote: »

The Irish staple of meat, spuds, swiss chard and spinach.

Early yorks and artichokes, a dinner fit for a king.


PS I love sprouts too:)

How Soon Is Now

Vegetarians do my ****ing head in at times! What makes it even worse is that most of them tend to be pretentious hippy pricks. Even the great man himself shoves his veggyness down everyone's neck!

Where I work you get loads them ordering there falafel s and sweet potatoe fries and other ****......

Ummm is the falafel vegetarian? No my ****ing dick was in it!!

Piss off.... Half them only doing it cause it goes with there image.

evolving_doors

Why school children?
Why does every thing fall to the school's.

Let the parents bring em, leave the teachers alone.

Anyhow, ya let em see the slaughter.
How about an auld hip operation to appreciate the elderly.
Animal lab to see animals tested with their 'no tears' shampoo.
Sweatshop to see their clothes being made.
Prison to see what happens bad people...

Just bring em' to a park and let them be happy. There's plenty of misery to go around when they grow up.

Bongalongherb

Tin Foil Hat wrote: »

Baby carrots are an abomination. Fresh carrots are the world's finest vegetable. Roasted, boiled, pureed, raw. There's nothing you can't do with a fresh carrot that isn't great.

That's far-out, I always found baby carrots to be very nice, must be just me so.

Tin Foil Hat

Bongalongherb wrote: »

What do you think of the little cabbage bastards ? brussels sprouts ? their green.

I'm gonna make it my mission to cook an edible sprout dish this christmas. I'm thinking spiced beef water, garlic, pancetta, maybe some chorizzo. Anything to mask the acrid taste of sprout.

Bongalongherb

How Soon Is Now wrote: »

Vegetarians do my ****ing head in at times! What makes it even worse is that most of them tend to be pretentious hippy pricks. Even the great man himself shoves his veggyness down everyone's neck!

Where I work you get loads them ordering there falafel s and sweet potatoe fries and other ****......

Ummm is the falafel vegetarian? No my ****ing dick was in it!!

Piss off.... Half them only doing it cause it goes with there image.

'How Soon Is Now' is the falafel vegetarian? No my ****ing dick was in it!!

I won't be trying that dish out that's for sure. Thanks for your heads-up.

ireland.man

A school in Japan had its students rear a pig up until it was sent to the abattoir. Although it's in Korean, you can tell how the children got on by the very expressive photos on that site...!

http://m.ppomppu.co.kr/new/bbs_view.php?id=humor&no=217226

Tin Foil Hat

Bongalongherb wrote: »

That's far-out, I always found baby carrots to be very nice, must be just me so.

Obviously, it's not just you. Otherwise they wouldn't sell them. I hate them though. Squidgy, horrible yokes. A fresh carrot takes about a minute to peel and chop. Why would you buy anything else?

Manach

To paraphrase Bismark: laws and sausage making are both processes which tend to disillusion.

Chancer3001

100 years ago every kid lived on a farm.

Saw animals being butchered every day.

You probably had 99.99999999% less vegans back then than now.

It's an uppity snooty "look at me" load of bollox

Bongalongherb

Tin Foil Hat wrote: »

Obviously, it's not just you. Otherwise they wouldn't sell them. I hate them though. Squidgy, horrible yokes. A fresh carrot takes about a minute to peel and chop. Why would you buy anything else?

They were just there in a bag as I had no full carrots, but yes, I like the big carrots as well but don't seem to notice much of a difference in taste between the two to be honest.

JaseBelleVie

But let's not kid ourselves. A cow would kill us and everyone we loved if he got half the chance.

(Lisa The Vegetarian is awesome)

Free tripe!

mikom

Bongalongherb wrote: »

I like the big carrots as well but don't seem to notice much of a difference in taste between the two to be honest.

I thought that was only a rumor about you............ :pac:

Noccy_Mondy

Our school already takes groups of students to the local abattoir. Part of the LCVP project. They do be fair quiet for a while after