Why no Hot dog stands in Ireland?

Augmerson · 13-12-2014 3:50pm #1

Genuine question. I've lived in and visited a few big cities in North America and Europe. In Germany, Canada and the US, Hot dog stands can be found in every big city and town. Now sometimes it's not the healthiest food but it's quick and usually cheap.

I always wondered why this didn't take on in Ireland given our love for decent fast food and people being on the go. I was talking about this with a family friend who mentioned in the 1980's that Martin Cahill (The General) moved in on fast food operators like Hot dog stand owners in Dublin and there was a bit of a turf war and it destroyed the business. Does anyone recall something like that happening?

If there were Hot dog stands now in Ireland, would you eat from one? Or maybe better value food like those found in the Sausage stands of Germany?

Atlantic Dawn · 13-12-2014 3:54pm

There's plenty in Dublin city centre on friday and saturday nights, on most corners around Stephens Green all the way up to the Liffey.

Augmerson · 13-12-2014 3:56pm

Atlantic Dawn wrote: »

There's plenty in Dublin city centre on friday and saturday nights, on most corners around Stephens Green all the way up to the Liffey.

Sacre bleu, never seen them.

/thread.

buyer95 · 13-12-2014 3:56pm

There's a great little shack in Dingle which sells hotdogs, called dog house I think

KTRIC · 13-12-2014 3:56pm

Atlantic Dawn wrote: »

There's plenty in Dublin city centre on friday and saturday nights, on most corners around Stephens Green all the way up to the Liffey.

Yup the place is covered in them. That's enough, there's no market for them during the day

Manach · 13-12-2014 3:58pm

We prefer horses instead of canines in our fast foods?

Paco Rodriguez · 13-12-2014 4:00pm

We're too posh for them here.

Now if it were gourmet locally sourced Currywurst served from a vintage carriage it would be more up our street.

The Backwards Man · 13-12-2014 4:11pm

If I want to eat processed crap in a stale bun after a night on the beer I want a roof over my head while I'm doing it.

VinLieger · 13-12-2014 4:12pm

Cus they are rank?

userod · 13-12-2014 4:13pm

The Backwards Man wrote: »

If I want to eat processed crap in a stale bun after a night on the beer I want a roof over my head while I'm doing it.

A roof for what?

I would have thought a table might be more important.

Captain Chaos · 13-12-2014 4:17pm

userod wrote: »

A roof for what?
.

The constant cold, wind and rain for a start.

Chorcai · 13-12-2014 5:10pm

I dont think the HSA allows it ?

dobman88 · 13-12-2014 5:13pm

There's a man with a hot dog stand in Killarney most Friday and Saturday nights during Summer and just the odd Saturday night in winter. Had a few hot dogs from him. They were nice and quicker than the ****e in the chipper that was there all day.

harry Bailey esq · 13-12-2014 5:19pm

???? Plenty of hot dog stands about.What we lack are kebab and falafel stands that seem to be everywhere in german,Dutch and Belgian cities.Germany in particular.Health issues aside,the going rate for a juicy donor is about 3 quid and the quality is twice as good of what Irish chippers serve up for double the price.
Great soakage after a bellyfull of beer.

FunLover18 · 13-12-2014 5:19pm

The Christmas Market on Stephen's Green has several hot dog stands. Personally I don't think they're meaty enough. The ratio of meat to bread is lower than in say a burger.

cml387 · 13-12-2014 5:23pm

Hot dogs are the sweepings of the abbatoir.
At least burgers have some degree of regulation nowadays.

DEFTLEFTHAND · 13-12-2014 5:29pm

dobman88 wrote: »

There's a man with a hot dog stand in Killarney most Friday and Saturday nights during Summer and just the odd Saturday night in winter. Had a few hot dogs from him. They were nice and quicker than the ****e in the chipper that was there all day.

Is that Mixie Brogan by any chance? I know he had a burger van down there at one stage.

AlekSmart · 13-12-2014 5:31pm

Chorcai wrote: »

I dont think the HSA allows it ?

I seem to recall a high-tension situation out West in recent years,perhaps during Galway Arts Week.(?)

From memory,it involved a French Farmers Market group being invited by the organizers to come and show us how the French go about this sorta thing.

Having travelled over and set up stall,the Gallic agric's were in full (and popular) flow when they were visited by some earnest young FSAI (Food Safety Authority of Ireland) Inspectors.

It appears these FSAI folks uncovered widespread contraventions of our Food Storage and Handling reglations,some of which centred on Cheese not being wrapped in cellophane and such like.

At the time,I was particularly impressed by the response of the French Farmers spokesperson,who made the very valid point that back in France his family had been successfully making,selling and eating cheese themselves,without wrapping it in cellophane, for several centuries.

He also,quietly and with some justification made the point that many of his long-term customers back home were of seriously advanced age,but not suffering from Coronary Artery disease et al,thanks in part to their diet,and the somewhat differing attitude towards their cooking practices.

The response from the FSAI spokesperson was,in my memory,full of EU-speak,jargon and spin about Safety & Storage Regulations and the risk of the West of Ireland being reduced to a smouldering wasteland if these French fellows were allowed to force the Galwiegans to consume unwrapped cheese !

I don't know what the outcome actually was in this instance,perhaps the French saw the good administrative sense in wrapping their cheese in cellophane,or perhaps the Fatality figures due to eating unprocessed cheese rocketed in The West of Ireland that month....either way,the FSAI struck a blow for Food Safety Administrators everywhere...FSAI Abú

harry Bailey esq · 13-12-2014 5:32pm

FunLover18 wrote: »

The Christmas Market on Stephen's Green has several hot dog stands. Personally I don't think they're meaty enough. The ratio of meat to bread is lower than in say a burger.

And they cost a fiver thereabouts too,street food is supposed to be fast and cheap they could easily sell those for 3quid each and make a decent profit.

braddun · 13-12-2014 5:33pm

we would steal all the money

dobman88 · 13-12-2014 5:34pm

DEFTLEFTHAND wrote: »

Is that Mixie Brogan by any chance? I know he had a burger van down there at one stage.

No idea. Never got his name. I used to work in McSorleys and would pop out for a few hot dogs for staff at kicking out time. He would usually be either outside the door there or down by the Grand and Mustangs. Seemed like a nice bloke.

AlekSmart · 13-12-2014 5:38pm

harry Bailey esq wrote: »

And they cost a fiver thereabouts too,street food is supposed to be fast and cheap they could easily sell those for 3quid each and make a decent profit.

I'm not certain of the German or French street vendor situations,but I'd be fairly sure the Irish Vendor will have to insure up to the eyeballs for Public Liability etc etc...all of which makes up a chunk of the €6 I see advertised on the St Stephens Green Cabins...WAAY too dear !! :mad:

suicide_circus · 13-12-2014 5:43pm

If by hotdog you mean those neon orange yokes they eat at football games in the US, you can keep them. But if you mean proper German Bratwurst and Bockwurst which are grilled over those massive bbq yokes, then sign me up.

The Diabolical Monocle · 13-12-2014 5:43pm

sinful German phallic sandwich - the food of homosexual deviants.

danrua01 · 13-12-2014 5:56pm

what we need is more khlav kalash stands.

suicide_circus · 13-12-2014 6:02pm

danrua01 wrote: »

what we need is more khlav kalash stands.

One crab juice please

danrua01 · 13-12-2014 6:04pm

how bout a mountain dew?

Talib Fiasco · 13-12-2014 6:06pm

The stand in Dingle was the best cure every day after a session when we were down there in the Gaeltacht

ardmacha · 13-12-2014 6:10pm

This is the wurst idea ever.

harry Bailey esq · 13-12-2014 6:12pm

suicide_circus wrote: »

If by hotdog you mean those neon orange yokes they eat at football games in the US, you can keep them. But if you mean proper German Bratwurst and Bockwurst which are grilled over those massive bbq yokes, then sign me up.

Anytime I'm passing through cork city i make a point of stopping off at a little place on little side street running beetween Patrick st and Oliver plunkett St. that sells amazing wursts in bread for 3-4 quid,as good as anything you'll find in germany.its on Winthrop St or maylor st i think i always confuse the two.Just across from Mc donalds.

kerry4sam · 13-12-2014 6:14pm

Augmerson wrote: »

Genuine question. I've lived in and visited a few big cities in North America and Europe. In Germany, Canada and the US, Hot dog stands can be found in every big city and town. Now sometimes it's not the healthiest food but it's quick and usually cheap.

If there were Hot dog stands now in Ireland, would you eat from one? Or maybe better value food like those found in the Sausage stands of Germany?

They were present in some towns/cities here some years back! I remember 'walking' out of night-clubs about 3:30/4am and finding them there. Take-aways would've been closed so it was them or very often we'd be getting a taxi to the nearest Tesco 24hr and maneuvering that maze looking for munchies.

Would not eat from one whilst sober, no,
kerry4sam

MistyCheese · 13-12-2014 6:27pm

FFS now I want a hot dog. Himself has only gone and made steak though.

UCDVet · 13-12-2014 7:06pm

Screw the stands - I just wish I could buy a decent beef hotdog in a shop. Admittedly, I haven't looked *that* hard, maybe a butcher could hook me up with a beef hotdog? I dunno.

Talib Fiasco · 13-12-2014 7:22pm

MistyCheese wrote: »

FFS now I want a hot dog. Himself has only gone and made steak though.

LolWhut? That's like "I want Aldi food even though I can have Michelin star food"

harry Bailey esq · 13-12-2014 7:28pm

MistyCheese wrote: »

Himself has only gone and made steak though.

What a complete scumbag!!Get rid!

:pac:

okedoke · 13-12-2014 7:29pm

harry Bailey esq wrote: »

Anytime I'm passing through cork city i make a point of stopping off at a little place on little side street running beetween Patrick st and Oliver plunkett St. that sells amazing wursts in bread for 3-4 quid,as good as anything you'll find in germany.its on Winthrop St or maylor st i think i always confuse the two.Just across from Mc donalds.

O'Flynn's Sausages

harry Bailey esq · 13-12-2014 7:38pm

UCDVet wrote: »

Screw the stands - I just wish I could buy a decent beef hotdog in a shop. Admittedly, I haven't looked *that* hard, maybe a butcher could hook me up with a beef hotdog? I dunno.

Every polish food store in the country sells them,as do lidl and aldi

cloud493 · 13-12-2014 8:51pm

I do love me some hot dogs, so many times at so many tranmere rover games..... but yeah you never see fast food vans like I used to in the UK. I miss a good ****e hot dog.

MistyCheese · 13-12-2014 9:09pm

The steak was nice but I still kinda want a hotdog.

Volvoair · 13-12-2014 9:19pm

Augmerson wrote: »

Genuine question. I've lived in and visited a few big cities in North America and Europe. In Germany, Canada and the US, Hot dog stands can be found in every big city and town. Now sometimes it's not the healthiest food but it's quick and usually cheap.

I always wondered why this didn't take on in Ireland given our love for decent fast food and people being on the go. I was talking about this with a family friend who mentioned in the 1980's that Martin Cahill (The General) moved in on fast food operators like Hot dog stand owners in Dublin and there was a bit of a turf war and it destroyed the business. Does anyone recall something like that happening?

If there were Hot dog stands now in Ireland, would you eat from one? Or maybe better value food like those found in the Sausage stands of Germany?

W.T.F.....you can buy hotdogs in most chippers,supermacs,most x-mas markets(eyre square) etc..you not really trying very hard,are you...:rolleyes:

cloud493 · 13-12-2014 9:23pm

Buying it in a supermarket is not the same as buying it from a stand :mad:

catallus · 13-12-2014 9:24pm

Would a sausage in a soft white roll be considered a hot-dog?

Augmerson · 13-12-2014 9:25pm

Volvoair wrote: »

W.T.F.....you can buy hotdogs in most chippers,supermacs,most x-mas markets(eyre square) etc..you not really trying very hard,are you...:rolleyes:

Was I talking about buying hotdogs in Chippers or Supermacs? No :rolleyes:

Are Christmas markets open all year? No :rolleyes:

Do you get actual frankfurters or German sausage from Chippers or Supermacs? No :rolleyes:

Here's a few more rolleyes to stick up your arse

:rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:

cloud493 · 13-12-2014 9:25pm

catallus wrote: »

Would a sausage in a soft white roll be considered a hot-dog?

No it would not.

catallus · 13-12-2014 9:26pm

cloud493 wrote: »

No it would not.

Even if I put mustard on it?

cloud493 · 13-12-2014 9:27pm

Especially if you put mustard on it.

OU812 · 13-12-2014 9:29pm

Had a dirty water hot dog in the middle of central park a couple of months ago. Mustard, relish, onions no ketchup (real hot dogs don't have ketchup). Absolutely gorgeous & only $4

catallus · 13-12-2014 9:31pm

Nothing wrong with a sausage sandwich with butter.

cloud493 · 13-12-2014 9:33pm

No there is not. A sausage butty is a delicious thing. But it is not a hot dog.

catallus · 13-12-2014 9:38pm

Why do they call it a "butty" anyways?

Just slang I suppose?

deco nate · 13-12-2014 9:50pm

catallus wrote: »

Why do they call it a "butty" anyways?

Just slang I suppose?

Bread and butter =butty

Why no Hot dog stands in Ireland?

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